Release date of 410R

[B4 Sloth]

Does anyone know when the less expensive version will be made available. I have seen the full fat version and can see why it costs what it does. I just have not got the funds:(
The durango is fantastic on every level.

Apologies if this is posted elsewhere.

[4times]

Any update on this budget version?

[one]

I guess it is pretty lame to say this as a reply, and may not be welcome but...

Skip a couple of weekends of going out drinking, or save money elsewhere sell stuff on feebay, then pick up the current kit. It is worth every penny :thumbsup: You wont regret it, why wait :drool:

[4times]

I guess it is pretty lame to say this as a reply, and may not be welcome but...

Skip a couple of weekends of going out drinking, or save money elsewhere sell stuff on feebay, then pick up the current kit. It is worth every penny :thumbsup: You wont regret it, why wait :drool:

I wasn't asking because of the costs. I'm more interested in a molded chassis rather than the aluminum and ball diffs instead of metal gears. I'm sure a budget version with molded chassis and ball diffs will still be on the high side compared to most.

Also, I think a molded chassis and ball diffs will make the buggy more forgiving and easier to drive because of the added flex. I've read about a lot guys having problems getting the car to settle down and drive smoothly.

I have enough rc gear to start a hobby shop, so yes, I could sell some stuff and get the current version or just buy it. But that wasn't the intent of the query.

[mark christopher]

in my opinion going to ball diffs is a backward step

[4times]

in my opinion going to ball diffs is a backward step

In certain applications and on some tracks, it's my opinion that a molded chassis with more flex might make the car better. And, in some circumstances, lighter ball diffs may have a considerable advantage over the heavier metal gears. So, I have to respectfully disagree with your generalization.

Anyway, I'm not trying to argue with anyone on this or take anything away from the current version, I was just wondering if anyone knew about a release date or time frame for the budget version. Tough crowd in this thread :confused:

[one]

Well you could buy the current kit and then buy the ball diffs and plastic chassis as tuning tools when they come out. :thumbsup:

[DCM]

I actually agree with 4times on this one. Geared diffs isn't the b all and end all of the car. In some circumstances they can be a hindrance than a help.

[mark christopher]

In certain applications and on some tracks, it's my opinion that a molded chassis with more flex might make the car better. And, in some circumstances, lighter ball diffs may have a considerable advantage over the heavier metal gears. So, I have to respectfully disagree with your generalization.

Anyway, I'm not trying to argue with anyone on this or take anything away from the current version, I was just wondering if anyone knew about a release date or time frame for the budget version. Tough crowd in this thread :confused:
respectfully i never made comment about the chassis!!
but see below
I actually agree with 4times on this one. Geared diffs isn't the b all and end all of the car. In some circumstances they can be a hindrance than a help.

so you have run the car with gear diffs to come to that conclusion?

mine is more consistant, reguires no maintanence of diffs, and they work as the car is getting good results, of road is not a restricted power class, a soft chassis can also hide a poor set up.......... thats my conclusion and a proven facts!

[mw02veg]

u just got big trouble when u tweek the chassis :woot: and its not the easiest thing to find out if u have. i know of more than a few that have done this :p

[Rebelrc]

Last comment makes no sense?

[bigred5765]

how does it not??
i can read and under stand exactly what he is on about,makes perfect sence to me,

[Rebelrc]

What chasis (Plastic or ali) ?

[bigred5765]

well being as there is no plastic chassis for the durango,

[Rebelrc]

Well as you cannot tweak ali:yawn:

[jhammond]

I'm pretty sure it can! (At least: Show the effects of a tweaked chassis.)

[bigred5765]

why what make you say that,you can tweak ali, adam did one at the euros,

[Rebelrc]

Thats called bending

[offroadrc]

i don't now why they must bring out a cheaper version if you like this car, buy it, gear diffs with sillicon oil are the best, they last the longest i have a rc8te and this car has this kind of diffs to, it's a great thing that you can change the diffoil, it makes a lot of differents when tuning to different tracks

[bigred5765]

duh and then what happens to the car its tweeked,any curve bend in a chassis is a tweek,

[Rebelrc]

my understanding is that a tweaked chassis is a chassis that does not flex evenly or in a linear motion for eg (more bendy on the left cornering) but can still apear straight when unstressed when held against a straight edge
A bend in it is called broken ( polite )

[bigred5765]

nahh, a tweeked chassis is a chassis that gives uneven shock movements or droop, caused buy a twist or bend,resulting in the car handling like a bag of doo doo,

[jhammond]

Oh... You have to laugh.
:D

[bigred5765]

any way not so important in offroad, i went all tc there had to wash my mouth out then,

[Rebelrc]

What do you mean NAH!....I have just told you the correct answer Bigred and whats all this DUH about????? What your talking about is the characteristics displayed by exactly what i was on about.
OH and you spell it TWEAKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
not commenting any more on pretend chassis weirdness.

[offroadrc]

it's a good thing that those noizie balldiffs aren't in the durango, cose lots of cars make strange noizes when braking or accelerating. :D

[Rebelrc]

I remember my first Beer!:)

[offroadrc]

beer?

[Rebelrc]

I dont know about ali fatigue ive got oople fatigue on this thread
back on topic
i personally need the balldiffs to be released cause the gear diffs are far too heavy for stock racing I do in a hall just bigger than a badminton court....i need bags of aggressive punch
so instead i might have too fire up my original prototype durango 2005 balldiffed animal:)

[stox217]

tweek is another word for bent when the alui baseplate has moved from the original shape. (mardave term)

[Rebelrc]

Surely that is bent
Oh well Mardave are right and the aviation industry must be wrong

COCK A DOO DAL DOO!!!!!!!!!

[offroadrc]

mokaay

[stox217]

tweek = no stressmarks (but the baseplate has been reshaped)
bend = stressmarks (white cracks in the aluminium on the bend)

[Rebelrc]

Get a life stox
you can bend ali with out (white stress marks ) cracks
so the new durango must have the front and rear kick up tweaked into it ...lol...&....lol
we are speaking on two very different levels
but anyway you can win this argument because i cant be bothered to type any more
LOL:)

[bigred5765]

sorry about the spelling mistake,
tweak,tweek.bend,stress marks, what ever,does it really matter what term is used,only matters in 2d racing, were talking 3d, lol

[Rebelrc]

OH well Lots of fun...toy cars mate ....just toy cars...see ya soon
bed time i think

[mark christopher]

an alloy chassis can cause tweek, by taking an impact the chassis bends/flexes/etc and often by releasing points mounted to it it will spring back flat, this is common in ic on road ( which i do) indeed you can slack a top deck, twist the chassis, retighten and have a tweeked car.
when alloy flex's its not bent where it is throw away, infact on sever occasions a big hammer can be used.

by the same token a plastic or carbon chassis can tweek weather flexi or stiff.

[mark christopher]

I dont know about ali fatigue ive got oople fatigue on this thread
back on topic
i personally need the balldiffs to be released cause the gear diffs are far too heavy for stock racing I do in a hall just bigger than a badminton court....i need bags of aggressive punch
so instead i might have too fire up my original prototype durango 2005 balldiffed animal:)
so you think they should produce a ball diff for you as you race a limited motor class?
why not change your class to run mens motors?:p

[Rebelrc]

Hello Mark:)
the club is Faversham
and has been running for nearly thirty years
the hall is very small but the racing is extremely competative, it often has 50 drivers attend weekly.......:thumbsup:
shame to change that
Mens motors...LOL......theres nothing manly about any toy cars or sides of the sport....lol
i mean its hardly a chat up line is it i race (play) with toy cars
:)

[DCM]

Mark, mark, mark, the world does not revolve around large tracks, there are lots of places that need to run a milder motor, for instance. And as much as it is a 'radical departure' from the norm, the selling point of the Durango, is the 'no compromise' layout, finishing touches like the CVD boots etc. Diffs are just a tuning aide, some people will like the edgy feel of a geared diff, some will prefer the feel a ball diff will give.

Some.... might just think that the price is too much, no matter how much they like the kit. Just got to accept, because you run that car, it may not appeal to everyone, or, dare I say.... agree with you.

[mark christopher]

Hello Mark:)
the club is Faversham
and has been running for nearly thirty years
the hall is very small but the racing is extremely competative, it often has 50 drivers attend weekly.......:thumbsup:
shame to change that
Mens motors...LOL......theres nothing manly about any toy cars or sides of the sport....lol
i mean its hardly a chat up line is it i race (play) with toy cars
:)
it worked for me...... just leave out the toy :thumbsup:
i know what your saying but if you used a faster motor and throttle control......

Mark, mark, mark, the world does not revolve around large tracks, there are lots of places that need to run a milder motor, for instance. And as much as it is a 'radical departure' from the norm, the selling point of the Durango, is the 'no compromise' layout, finishing touches like the CVD boots etc. Diffs are just a tuning aide, some people will like the edgy feel of a geared diff, some will prefer the feel a ball diff will give.

Some.... might just think that the price is too much, no matter how much they like the kit. Just got to accept, because you run that car, it may not appeal to everyone, or, dare I say.... agree with you.
yup its dear but you pay what you get in this world look at the madrat...........
there is such a thing as throttle control!

[Marvin]

At Faversham there is a 13.5T motor limit. No amount of throttle control will allow anything faster!

It is a polished wood floor too, even a 10.5T would be too much for almost any driver!

I do think Durango would sell loads of the DEX410R kits, if priced around the CAT Sx S1 edition's price. I don't see anyone complaining about the S1 edition CAT saying that 'if you want a CAT you must cough up full price for the carbon spec'. Particularly when you consider that, as DCM says, different materials/ways of doing things are for different track conditions/driving styles. The S1 CAT actually is preferred by many due to the extra flex it provides, meaning that it has more natural grip and is more forgiving.

[mark christopher]

but is a ball diff (with good quality balls) cheaper to produce than a gear diff? the gear difs have a steel crown wheel, would a plastic or steel be better on a ball diff, would a plastic crown gear lighten the diff to ball diff weight? which is better in a budget car? a gear diff or an adjustable ball diff?

[DCM]

throttle control is one thing, but if the car feels nervous and edgy, it will feel that, careless of the 'throttle control', you been in the racing scene for long enough, to know that what suits one, doesn't suit another, and not everyone races mod either.

[HyperFX]

Ball diff save weight? Save money? Maybe, maybe not. We'll see, when it's released.
I see ball diffs (for the DEX410) as a tuning tool, mostly. Seems it would be right at home on a slippy dirt surface that rapidly changes during the course of an event. Quick and easy adjustments, made in seconds. Maybe higher maintenance?
High traction turf surfaces usually don't change much, and that's where gear diffs would shine. Higher traction means higher stress on the diff. Metal gear diffs don't have a problem there. (Ball diffs? Maybe) Set and forget, when you find the right oils. IMO.
Just seems to be another great addition to the already superior Durango arsenal! :thumbsup:

(and, I still want to know about the release date!)

[bigred5765]

actually geared diff will give much more drive than a ball diff on loose/slippy surfaces,

[andys]

actually geared diff will give much more drive than a ball diff on loose/slippy surfaces,

Why ?

[c0sie]

Torsion diffs, thats what ya need :)

[Chris Doughty]

Torque Sionsing? :woot:

or Torsen, Torque Sensing... :p

[c0sie]

el Typo :D

[bigred5765]

Why ?
no idea why Andy they just do,may be its the fact they are free'er (not a really word?)or the fact that they let the car turn tighter on a loose surface, not sure on the technical bits but in practice thats what they do,

[andys]

no idea why Andy they just do,may be its the fact they are free'er (not a really word?)or the fact that they let the car turn tighter on a loose surface, not sure on the technical bits but in practice thats what they do,


I still don't get it, there's lots of talk about the geared diffs but no real reason to have them (apart form the simple fact they should handle big brushless power). Personally, I like ball diffs, they replaced geared diffs back in the day and I see no reason to change. The geared diffs are the main reason I haven't bought a Durango, i'll keep waiting for the 'cheaper' version that's 'got-balls'.

[Chris Doughty]

everything gets re-incarnated. everything goes in circles

we thought we had got rid of stick packs sideways across the chassis like the old CAT XLS used to be, but the X6 has come back with it, why? because LIPO is a bit lighter and it makes is possible to do it again.

why are geared diffs back? I assume its because we can use oil in them without them leaking, you can get the same tune as the other guy on the interweb by using the same oil instead of reding his setup sheet and it being 'tight' or 'loose' or something as vague as that.
also you can run the diff very free without it slipping, or very 'tight' without if going notchy.

running rallycross for a year and I really like geared diff's with oil, going back to 10th scale diff's the adjustment is always a bit voodoo, is that tight enough? does it slip? are my balls or plates worn?

at the end of the day, people will run whatever makes THEM fast.

when is the geared diff with one-way rolling outdrives comming? :woot:

[bigred5765]

its not just the geared diff though is it, thats the whole point as Chris as already said its the fact that they are infinitely more tuned able than any ball diff,its all about the oil and how it works on the gears in the diff, you can run them 100% free-er than a ball diff, without the loss of drive, buy the way Matty doesn't have a durango and i doubt we will be getting one, ball diff or geared diff, but after racing a rally cross for a while i can see the advantages on the track and see how they work, not just the theory behind them,i can see they are like garlic bread,

[mark christopher]

Garlic bread.............its the future dude :thumbsup:

[Rebelrc]

Sorry too have started this debate dont get me wrong i am sure that if i was using the car as it was designed to be used the ball diffs would be great but its just the weight in a very stop starty stop starty environment ( no such thing as smooth ) is a little too much ! and it will get slayed at faversham........but i will run it never the less:D
looking forward to running them outside soon though.

[bigred5765]

that would be interesting to see the visible differences between the same car,with ball diff and gear diff at that track,i just cant get my head round the fact that a ball diff would be better because its lighter?i can see how you are thinking,but would like to see it in action.

[Timee80]

sorry to interrupt, anybody know when the release date is yet?

[discostu]

yeah i agree scott the tuning aspect and the lightness is whats needed round faversham and i woulkd love mr thortle control to come and play with us with our feble 13.5.

[Rebelrc]

Come and have ago Big Red
Faversham on wed , 7:00pm
its great fun:thumbsup:
but do not expect too win!
many a fantastic driver turned up and have been anihilated by the local talent:D

[DCM]

the weight has a lot of effect on the cars handling, mostly the way the weight will be thrown about, under throttle and braking heavily.

[Rebelrc]

Especialy with a 13.5 in it!

[Timee80]

its me again. anyone know a release date?, as per the thread title:confused:

[MRD]

I'm all for geared diffs. I need to run a loose rear diff to keep the corner traction with a 6.5 to keep the pace up. This results in either a cooked slipper or a cooked diff, so the diff has to be compromised. The extra rotating mass has a negligble effect when taking into consideration the size and weight of the wheels and tyres so I wouldn't class it as a dissadvantage. 1/8th and 1/10 nitro on road have been using geared diffs for years and rotating mass is as critical, if not more so for these.

[bigred5765]

a guess but 60 posts in and no official reply, not soon,

[Rebelrc]

by the looks of things ,You need a different stocking filler this christmas...:thumbdown:
i sympathise with you;)

[HyperFX]

Wow, check the thread title, it says "Release date of 410R". ;) Anyone know?

[Chris Doughty]

I think people are more interested in the realease date of ball diffs :woot:

[samd]

Anyone here in favour of ball diffs over geared diffs and not liking the weight of the geared diffs actually have a durango?

[Rebelrc]

Yes i have two
the original slim 2005 and the new less racy one
but am still not sure about the gear diffs for my type of racig as i said earlier
but i havent run it yet so may be pleasently suprised....hope so:wub

[c0sie]

New less racy one??

[Rebelrc]

Trust me it is;)
the new car is a production version for the public...easier to work on and live wth etc

[samd]

Rebel RC - any chance of some pics of your proper durango, would love to see it.

Your going to love the geared diffs in the new one - always smooth, loads of drive and the settings are always the same, i think the german team also are producing winning results in 13.5 stock class.

[Rebelrc]

Thanks samd....thats good to know
sorry no recent pics as it is the workshop covered in swarfe and crud...LOL

[samd]

Nice cars!

[Holeshot]

sorry to interrupt, anybody know when the release date is yet?

No-one knows? :(

[BagofSkill]

Antoher month on.... Any word on this? Is it coming after the 408? After the 210? Is it coming at all?

[Adam Skelding]

Yes it is coming.
Parts are being tested at this moment.

We'll announce it on the usual forums and Web areas.
:thumbsup:

[MarkWesterfield]

Hey Adam, can you help me get in contact with somebody at Durango so I can get some product in my hobby shop here in the US? I haven't gotten any response from emailing them.

[email protected]

[bustabo]

Hey Adam, can you help me get in contact with somebody at Durango so I can get some product in my hobby shop here in the US? I haven't gotten any response from emailing them.

[email protected]

+1 !!!

[sime46]

Any news on this 410R yet dudes? I've heard its been seen doing the rounds so cant be far away? :thumbsup:

[Fispud]

I saw april/may as a release date on a swedish site, and about half the price

The sites (in swedish)
www.minioffroad.com/team_durango.htm
http://www.rcdcracing.se/category.php?id_category=2

[mark christopher]

i held and photgraphed one yesterday (sorry the pics are for a magazine so i wont release them till there in the mag as requested by TD) but i think i can say keep an eye on the durango site soon and the price will be pleasing!

it looked excellent and id not consider it a budget racer, this will be popular and what is included will suprize many who thought Durango would make it "cheap" as in whats fitted!

[xchange]

it was better than the gear diff?

[telboy]

I had a looksy at the 'R' too. Very nice for what it will cost. Deffo not a 'budget bodge' just to reduce the cost.
It looks very sleek and stylish, and should perform just as good as the original.
:thumbsup:

[BagofSkill]

Anyone giving a hint on how it's made?

I figure replacing all the alloy with plastic (except for the motor/spur mount and maybe shocks) would be about right...

Comments?

[colt_seavers]

There are details on the Team Durango blog now, £210+VAT (£246.75), with release at the end of April.

http://www.team-durango.com/blog/

[mark christopher]

Anyone giving a hint on how it's made?

I figure replacing all the alloy with plastic (except for the motor/spur mount and maybe shocks) would be about right...

Comments?
maybe......

[AmiSMB]

I wonder how many parts from the R maybe used on the non-R as tuning options. I like my non-R exactly the way it is but an area I am thinking of is to replace the aluminium side plates with plastic equivalents so as to introduce a little more chassis flex.

[BagofSkill]

maybe......

Powertrip anyone? :p

[xchange]

i think the frame chassis is in carbon or all in one moulded like a B4...

is the only way to reduce the price.

[mark christopher]

i think the frame chassis is in carbon or all in one moulded like a B4...

is the only way to reduce the price.

are you sure?

[BagofSkill]

Carbon would actually be more expensive I think, because they'd either have to lay it up in a mould with the front and rear kick ups or make separate front and rear plastic kick ups.

I'd bet on plastic, maybe a moulded plastic tub like most other buggies but we'll find out next week- Unless one of the schnorbits that keeps bragging they know share it first...

[mark christopher]

some one on this page has it correct!

i was asked to not say what ive seen, sorry if i like to keep you on your toes!

[JohnM]

I'd bet on plastic, maybe a moulded plastic tub like most other buggies

I hope not, remember the Aero A-one? at first it was a rip off of an earlier Durango, but it worked, Lee Martin won the National title with it, then they made a plastic tub chassis for it, and it stopped working after that.

I'm thinking metal chassis, plastic side pods.

Plus if you don't get extra anti-squat brackets, roll bars etc in the kit, plus swap a few metal parts like the servo mount for plastic, that would all help keep costs down.

I'm looking forward to seeing it, been thinking of getting a second DEX as a spare car as it is, a cheaper one might fit the bill perfectly:thumbsup:

[BagofSkill]

Apparently John is right, I've now read the alloy chassis is retained from someone that's seen the car practicing at Yatabe apparently.

[BagofSkill]

And now seen pictures of the prototype showing a milled aluminium chassis with plastic sidepods, platic front uprights and steering servo mount. All CVD's changed to 2.0mm pins, so I guess the only question left it ball diff or gear.

[telboy]

I wonder how many parts from the R maybe used on the non-R as tuning options. I like my non-R exactly the way it is but an area I am thinking of is to replace the aluminium side plates with plastic equivalents so as to introduce a little more chassis flex.

All the parts should be interchangable between the two cars. Its only the materials used that is the difference. ;)

....although I could be wrong.:eh?:

[reg]

never mind the price on the R,i want one of thoese mugs:woot:tell us more Adam:thumbsup:
http://www.team-durango.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/td-mug/thumbs/thumbs_hw3.jpg (http://www.team-durango.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/td-mug/hw3.jpg)

http://www.team-durango.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/td-mug/thumbs/thumbs_hw2.jpg (http://www.team-durango.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/td-mug/hw2.jpg)

http://www.team-durango.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/td-mug/thumbs/thumbs_hw4.jpg (http://www.team-durango.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/td-mug/hw4.jpg)

http://www.team-durango.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/td-mug/thumbs/thumbs_hw5.jpg (http://www.team-durango.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/td-mug/hw5.jpg)

http://www.team-durango.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/td-mug/thumbs/thumbs_hw6.jpg (http://www.team-durango.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/td-mug/hw6.jpg)

http://www.team-durango.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/td-mug/thumbs/thumbs_hw7.jpg (http://www.team-durango.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/td-mug/hw7.jpg)

[HyperFX]

http://www.team-durango.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/td-mug/thumbs/thumbs_hw7.jpg (http://www.team-durango.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/td-mug/hw7.jpg)

Sad thing is, if TD actually produced these, I'd buy one, just for the bling factor! :cool:

[JohnM]

Apparently John is right

Bloody hell, that'll be the first time that's happened since 1994:D

[JohnM]

http://www.team-durango.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/td-mug/thumbs/thumbs_hw7.jpg (http://www.team-durango.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/td-mug/hw7.jpg)

Sad thing is, if TD actually produced these, I'd buy one, just for the bling factor! :cool:

Sad thing is, I'll be in the queue with you, and I don't drink tea or coffee, so no need for a mug:thumbsup:

[till]

hey guys ... look what i found !!

http://www.hotrc.jp/?q=node/410

i like that car !! i will buy it !!

[Ben Turner]

If thats the R version then im having one! Always loved the look and design of the Durango but been a bit put off the price. Im interested to see how many of the plastic parts the team drivers end up running on their cars now.... :)

[annonymous]

Thats Awesome! it has upgrades on it that haven't been released yet, and it is completely comparable with the normal version, from what i see (prob. more than meets the eye) - - - if they can release that at the price they listed, it will kill everything!

when are they releasing the 2.0mm drive shafts? really looking forward to those:thumbsup:

[reg]

it looks very good,i think its good that they have acted to what people have said are the niggly bits,they have moved forward with the R,imagian what the next pro will be like :wub:wub:wub

[mark christopher]

bear in mind that says proto!

[tomdav]

When can we pre order?

[ben27111973]

lets hope durango puts out a 2mm replacement cvd kit at a reduced cost for those owners that have the 410 currently.

[samd]

Looks like the front bulkhead brace screws into the top
of the servo mounting moulding as well as into the posts. Milled out lines I'm the chassis look interesting a well!

[Chesty]

I can't believe thats going to be the 410R - more like testing parts that will be used on the 410R...

Looking at that, with the pro shocks & upgraded transmission - it would cost less than £200 to upgrade to full 410 spec meaning that we'd all buy the R & the alloy bits & have a load of spares/parts left over:eh?:

Hoping I'm wrong, but it looks too good to be true.

[reg]

lets hope durango puts out a 2mm replacement cvd kit at a reduced cost for those owners that have the 410 currently.


quoted from DURANGO "other companies design, sell, see what breaks, sell options; then sell a ‘team spec’ car – Team Durango won’t take this approach".

:thumbsup:

[b4pete]

Ill be gutted if it does come with 2mm pins!

[reg]

Ill be gutted if it does come with 2mm pins!


why:confused:..............

[MikePimlott]

This is over £200 cheaper than the 410. if the differences are as little as whats showing up so far why pay £450 for full one :confused:

[Alex H]

Has someone actually confirmed at Durango that it is the actual 410R in the pictures??? Perhaps Hupo only are testing some ot the 410R features on his 410.

[raymondkerr]

I have a feeling, that what we see in the pics, are just parts that Hupo is testing on a regular DEX410. I think that the shocks on the R won't be the same as the full version, although I must say, at £250 it will be the best 4WD in that price range, and will be very interesting to see the pics when they are released, soon I hope.

[till]

yes i think now as you all said it and i thought about this are only the parts tested on a normal one .... but i read 410 R so i thouht it would be it ......but there are more info´s than before aren´t hey ??

[B4 Sloth]

Any news?

Just a snippet. Go on;)

[toppers3933]

geared diffs and 2mm pins. replace ali with plastic and you have a 410r. get your order in now.:p

[annonymous]

THEY have PHOTOS!
http://www.team-durango.com/blog/

[JohnM]

"THEY" have just killed the B44 as well:thumbsup:

Lets face it, the cheap price is all the B44 had going for it, now that's gone, who would really recomend one now?

[GRIFF55]

Fair doos, from those pics that car is a bargain. Well done durango:thumbsup:

[fmo]

I wonder if the new 25mm 2010 spec Lipo battery strap will be the "option part of the month" for the 410-without-R...?

[Bungleaio]

I wonder if the new 25mm 2010 spec Lipo battery strap will be the "option part of the month" for the 410-without-R...?

Along with the 2mm driveshafts!

Fair play to durango they are producing a very good car for the money. The carbon bits and titanium turnbuckles are the only bits I would get if I was looking at getting one, the alloy bits are very nice to have but they aren't really essential.

If I was one of the other manufacturers I'd be worried about my sales forecast.

[mark christopher]

I wonder if the new 25mm 2010 spec Lipo battery strap will be the "option part of the month" for the 410-without-R...?

only if you have big cells id say!

[njc11]

That car is a bargain!

It will take alot of sales away from its competitors..

Just one thing though...these upgrades, like 2mm cvd's/drivetrain etc, cvd collar,lipo brace, transponder mount.. Will these become part of the DEX410 kit now? and for those who already own the DEX410 when will they be all available to buy?? and what about a cost?

Infact... if we gave kit numbers would we get a reduced price! :p

[turbobrick]

Infact... if we gave kit numbers would we get a reduced price! :p

Hope so with the problems some people are having with driveshaft pins :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Peter

[ben27111973]

we all seem to be having problems with the 1.5mm pins.

the decent thing to do would be to offer the upgrade kit for CVD's to those that can supply a DEX-410 serial number as suggested.

[HyperFX]

http://www.team-durango.com/blog/ (http://www.team-durango.com/blog/)
Holy crap, Batman! I hate it when TD does this.....I just wet my pants! ;)
I'll need Depends for the DEX210 release.

[mark christopher]

That car is a bargain!

It will take alot of sales away from its competitors..

Just one thing though...these upgrades, like 2mm cvd's/drivetrain etc, cvd collar,lipo brace, transponder mount.. Will these become part of the DEX410 kit now? and for those who already own the DEX410 when will they be all available to buy?? and what about a cost?

Infact... if we gave kit numbers would we get a reduced price! :p
the transponder mount is part of the plastic side pod!

[raymondkerr]

I like the idea of the transponder mount, mines keeps coming loose in that vertical position. Would like to try the plastic side pods thought, wonder if it will give more flex. The 2mm pins is a good idea also, but i might try a drill the ones i have out, as I'm not needing new centre shafts yet.

All in all I think durango have a definate winner here, At £250 it will by far be the best 4WD in that price catergory.

[JohnM]

we all seem to be having problems with the 1.5mm pins.

the decent thing to do would be to offer the upgrade kit for CVD's to those that can supply a DEX-410 serial number as suggested.

Are we? I'm pretty sure that it's not just me who hasn't had any problems with them, although free 2mm drive shafts would be nice:D

[MHeadling]

Sorry if its been mentioned already, where can we order the 410R??

I checked Microtech yesterday and couldnt see anything??

[4times]

It's been announced, so kill this thread :) Post in the others.....:thumbsup:

[colt_seavers]

Sorry if its been mentioned already, where can we order the 410R??

I checked Microtech yesterday and couldnt see anything??

It says in the announcement on the blog that it won't be available until the end of April at the earliest.

[reg]

i would be happy with a free brown jumper:woot::woot::thumbsup:

[Ben Turner]

Any news on this? Cant wait to get my hands on one!

[/tobys]

me too!!

[The Hoff]

Any news on the release date ?, i heard end of this month which is not far away :)

[Jarred King]

So can TD confirm if they will be sending current 410 users replacement driveshafts ?

Obviously they are a problem. I think they should send users the 2.0mm driveshafts along with the updated ballcups and transponder mount.

any other company would ?

[JonMack]

Obviously they are a problem. I think they should send users the 2.0mm driveshafts along with the updated ballcups and transponder mount.

any other company would ?

I find that last line hard to believe.

[jimmy]

Just because they improve things (as ALL comanpies hopefully do) doesn't mean they should send out those parts for free? Crazy suggestion that they should or that other companies do.

I could fill the screen with weak points on various cars that were addressed / revised later - and I don't recall anyone getting free stuff.

The only thing that possibly comes to mind is the Tamiya Jugg - it was apparently horrificly weak and was quickly replaced by the Jugg2, and all Jugg owners got a free upgrade kit afaik.
I don't remember Tamiya giving me a revised camber mount for my 501X when they revised it because it was weak though? Or giving out the grey ball cups because the kit ones are crap - or giving TRF511 owners replacement ball studs because they were crap, or giving 501X owners new wheels because the front ones were crap. Etc etc, so maybe the Jugg was a one off? :lol:

[SHY]

Totally agree with Jimmy! I've been a Durango prototype fan for a long time, so I find it fantastic that Strenge & Co managed to start a company and actually produce and sell it!

Aero as we all know was a failure, and Serpent never got it together at all.

BUT - all new cars have "child deceases"... so personally I want to wait until "MKII"/"SP1" is out :lol:

Will the R version be updated as to the now known issues?

That car will also be much lighter right? (how much?) (without brass weights)

[STP]

it seems as if the dex410R won his first race in the hands of its design engineer at a race near hamburg... "wicked car"

http://www.tkrohn.de/maxi/_MG_4487.JPG

...cool fellow :-)

[HyperFX]

So can TD confirm if they will be sending current 410 users replacement driveshafts ?

Obviously they are a problem. I think they should send users the 2.0mm driveshafts along with the updated ballcups and transponder mount.

any other company would ?


I can't confirm I have one fully assembled DEX410 Pro Spec, and one unassembled DEX410 Pro Spec (minus main chassis/side braces),and all the option parts, and 95% of the spares needed for repairs/rebuilds. Oh, and a very cool TD t-shirt! So, it might be unfair to some, if TD sent current owners free upgrades. I don't expect TD to do that. I would, however, be amazed, and extremely public about the fantastic TD Support, should they actually supply myself, and all current owners, with the upgrade free of charge! :thumbsup: I'd be a TD owner for life! (Already there!)

Although the original pins are smaller and seem more easily broken/worn, I have had no problems since using two set screws on each drive pin. Not one issue! I've even used a softer metal pin (so I'm told) than the TD part, and still have had no issues. I don't believe the issue is with the part or design, as much as the lack of the second set screw in the kit. Anyway, I'll be upgrading to 2mm as soon as I can afford it, just for durability sake. 'Til then, it's two screws for me! :) Yep, that's what I said. Ha!

Btw, Jarred, thanks for the setup info. Very helpful! http://www.oople.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

[wacattack]

Just because they improve things (as ALL comanpies hopefully do) doesn't mean they should send out those parts for free? Crazy suggestion that they should or that other companies do.

I could fill the screen with weak points on various cars that were addressed / revised later - and I don't recall anyone getting free stuff.

The only thing that possibly comes to mind is the Tamiya Jugg - it was apparently horrificly weak and was quickly replaced by the Jugg2, and all Jugg owners got a free upgrade kit afaik.
I don't remember Tamiya giving me a revised camber mount for my 501X when they revised it because it was weak though? Or giving out the grey ball cups because the kit ones are crap - or giving TRF511 owners replacement ball studs because they were crap, or giving 501X owners new wheels because the front ones were crap. Etc etc, so maybe the Jugg was a one off? :lol:

Well said jimmy

[STP]

http://www.team-durango.com/blog/?p=811

[JohnM]

Cool, but when can I buy one?

[Hulk]

Patience, good things come to those people who wait ;)

[antnee]

Just because they improve things (as ALL comanpies hopefully do) doesn't mean they should send out those parts for free? Crazy suggestion that they should or that other companies do.

I could fill the screen with weak points on various cars that were addressed / revised later - and I don't recall anyone getting free stuff.

The only thing that possibly comes to mind is the Tamiya Jugg - it was apparently horrificly weak and was quickly replaced by the Jugg2, and all Jugg owners got a free upgrade kit afaik.
I don't remember Tamiya giving me a revised camber mount for my 501X when they revised it because it was weak though? Or giving out the grey ball cups because the kit ones are crap - or giving TRF511 owners replacement ball studs because they were crap, or giving 501X owners new wheels because the front ones were crap. Etc etc, so maybe the Jugg was a one off? :lol:

IIRC, Xray did send out update packs to all the T2008 owners (think it was that one) cos it was rubbish

[MikePimlott]

Patience, good things come to those people who wait ;)

I hope its out before the SX2 knowing my track record for itchy fingers :woot:

[reg]

:woot:IIRC, Xray did send out update packs to all the T2008 owners (think it was that one) cos it was rubbish

it wasnt rubbish:o...........they did send out free parts but it was only cheep parts,

[antnee]

:woot:

it wasnt rubbish:o...........they did send out free parts but it was only cheep parts,

Thats what you told me! Maybe it was your driving that was rubbish! :o

[losi100]

When , no release date yet??????

[JohnM]

When , no release date yet??????

Just seen on TD's web site, that it's a "few weeks away":drool:

[Shaun 'TheSheep' Atkinson]

Is there any update on release yet? i heard it should be the end of the month! :thumbsup:

[ApfelBirne]

Here in Germany, you can pre-order the car.
I asked the distributor, when they will sell the car, and he cant tell me.

[JohnM]

Is there any update on release yet? i heard it should be the end of the month! :thumbsup:

That's what a chap at Durango UK told me on Monday.

[JustARcFan]

Any news? :confused:

[JohnM]

I was told yesterday, that they are hoping that the kits will start to be shipped here in 2-3 weeks.

The itch in the wallet might have to go a TRF201 if it slips much more.

[No. 46]

You know the 2wd makes sense John, only half the stuff to go wrong and even less when its tamiya:thumbsup:

[JustARcFan]

Now it's june and still no more info? :confused:

[Chris-S]

Cant wait any longer, B44 is driving me mad !

[johnni boi]

Is there any more word on when the new durango is spose to hit the shops ?? :confused:

[JustARcFan]

Is this car coming or not?
It's already June and 1/3th of the season is already passed.. :yawn:

[JustARcFan]

And I have a full basket with a TRF511 + some goodies :p

[JohnM]

Hopefully by the end of the month, or so I was told at the end of last week.

[JustARcFan]

ENd of this month??

So this means 1 month later than expected?
Maybe it's time that they come out with an official date?

[Northy]

Do you work in engineering? I have never worked on a project that hit target!

Give them some slack, I know the guys are working hard and want it out as soon as they can, but they want it right!

G

[TheReferee]

Do you work in engineering? I have never worked on a project that hit target!

Give them some slack, I know the guys are working hard and want it out as soon as they can, but they want it right!

G

i have worked on an engineering project that came in on time!!, it didnt work,

[Northy]

i have worked on an engineering project that came in on time!!, it didnt work,

Hahaha, :D Exactly ;)

[Shaun 'TheSheep' Atkinson]

I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for this car to be released, but to be fair, i'd rather it be 2 months late and be a fantastic car than it be released tomorrow with problems. :thumbsup:

[JohnM]

ENd of this month??



Yeah, this month, doesn't mean it will happen though, just what they are aiming for.

But then, what car has ever arrived on time? I can't think of many/any that have, hell some of us were waiting so long for the XX4 to come out, the first ones got a graphite chassis in the box as a way saying sorry.

[wacattack]

Good things come to those who, the car is truly awesome :thumbsup:

[Shaun 'TheSheep' Atkinson]

Any news? :confused:

[JohnM]

It's still not at the end of the month yet;)

[wacattack]

It should be this month. I heard one of part suppliers changed the mould without warning Durango, when it arrived it didn't fit so they've had to reproduce this particular part. That's why it's been delayed

[Shaun 'TheSheep' Atkinson]

Yeah i heard something about the suppliers messing around with the parts, i just thought there would have been an official update posted or something with some info on the car for the people itching to get there hands on one lol :drool:

[Shaun 'TheSheep' Atkinson]

Money is burning a hole in my pocket here :cry:

[Ong]

Hi,

If you want you can give me you money :) i´m kiding....
I run with Dex410 until now i´m very happy with the car but.........all races i made first but the car need´s to much attention now i will change to Schumacher cat SX2

Best regards

[Shaun 'TheSheep' Atkinson]

Sooo......Does That mean your selling your 410? :woot::lol: lol

[mobi]

When can we buy DEX410R?
New information is not?

[Soo]

When can we buy DEX410R?
New information is not?

2.7.2010! =)

[simoncrabb]

2.7.2010! =)

What's the source of that date?

[HyperFX]

2.7.2010! =)
Teaser!
Post the source, please.

[veecee]

Venom Australia are indicating arrival on the same date. Can't wait!!! :woot: