View Full Version : Tamiya 1/10 R/C Hotshot 58391
pininy
17-04-2007, 10:53 PM
I know this is not a new buggy, but it's great that Tamiya re-release this buggy....
that was my first buggy ever :)
58391 1/10 R/C Hotshot found it at tamiya USA
(http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=58391)
http://www.tamiyausa.com/images/product/250/58391/header_58391.jpg
jimmy
17-04-2007, 11:16 PM
They started slow with some boring (to me) re-releases, but are really impressing me with these great oldies returning. Awesome.
"the eye-catching Hotshot 2WD buggy" - They really know their stuff :rolleyes:
AaronR
18-04-2007, 11:21 AM
Looks like Tamiya caught their mistake REAL quick! :cool:
jimmy
18-04-2007, 11:25 AM
haha, darn it. Surprised they caught that one!:D
Twister
18-04-2007, 04:00 PM
I really hoped Tamiya should come to their senses :eh?: and release the Hotshot.. In my mind the coolest looking buggy ever! Driving it is not that hot, but sometimes looking good is all it takes;) Right jimmy? Well i'm gonna buy a heap of hotshots, cheers:cool:
jimmy
18-04-2007, 04:03 PM
I got the HotShot II when I was about 11 / 12, and it was great - ok I really wanted the original but I missed out and had to get the not quite as cool 'II' - but now I have the chance again! yay
pininy
18-04-2007, 04:10 PM
:D it sort of bring back memories....... I'll get a few :)
losidan
18-04-2007, 08:37 PM
i remember the first time i ever went to batley buggy club..it was with my brother who had got a hornet for chrimbo....the hotshot was THE car to have then.....I gotta get me one of these
budgio
18-04-2007, 10:07 PM
Heres my brothers old modded hotshot i have just pulled out of my dad,s loft after at least 12 years ...hahaha what was he thinking of:D
Must scan the bay for a nice body shell ;)
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t98/budgio/PB120068.jpg?t=1176933727
Northy
18-04-2007, 10:11 PM
Cool, Tom can get some parts to run his vintage car again! :D
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stefke
25-04-2007, 12:29 PM
Tamiya heard my prayers !!!!
Now an ORIGINAL Avante - talking about the best looking buggy ever - and I'm in Tamiya heaven !!
P.S. : Not talking about the daft looking DF3 Avante
jimmy
25-04-2007, 12:53 PM
Is that a statement of your wish or that there actually IS a avante re-release? That would be nice!
Bring back the bigwig! haha
stefke
25-04-2007, 01:05 PM
Is that a statement of your wish or that there actually IS a avante re-release? That would be nice!
Bring back the bigwig! haha
I have a mint original BigWig laying around somewhere so no need to re-release it for me :D
They have been some roumours on various Tamiya fansites about an Avante re-release, but given the tooling costs for that car and the fact that there is a DF3 version now (bwèèèrk) I'm affraid it'll never materialize. :( . Shame
jimmy
25-04-2007, 01:20 PM
I know the bigwig was suppoed to be a bit 'wank' on the track, but I love the look of it, and believed the hype that it was the ultimate racer.. lol :D
terry.sc
25-04-2007, 11:12 PM
Heres my brothers old modded hotshot i have just pulled out of my dad,s loft after at least 12 years ...hahaha what was he thinking of:D
Must scan the bay for a nice body shell ;)
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t98/budgio/PB120068.jpg?t=1176933727
Nice TMS chassis kit there, only the second one I've seen still around apart from my own.
Love the way they completely forgot to included any way to mount the body on it, imagine any company forgetting something so fundamental these days.
Anyone interested in a chassis kit for the rerelease?
http://www.tamiyaclub.com/getuserimage.asp?t=&id=img297_07012007233747_1.jpg
Dirt-Racer
25-04-2007, 11:23 PM
I think that could be a good project for someone to mass produce eh terry? (good to see your still around) :D
I remember someone made an aluminium chassis frame which had lots of holes in it to lighten it up a little, not sure who made it but i dont think it was trick bits?
dallasv8
26-04-2007, 08:34 AM
ive only recently picked up a parts hotshot so i could complete the one i had.now i think ive pretty got enough to make 2 cars.
i also got the crp front arm brace off ebay and an old parma slipper kit for the hotshot.apparently the slipper just works by the amount of tension on the wheelnut so i dont think ill worry with that.
ive got a friend with a chassis that has the twin shock setup on front and rear,i just have to convince him that its going to a good home :)
if the re release is a replica of the old,ill be able to get a body :)
and a new one,it would be cool to see a hotshot with a set of holeshots flogging around with the bj4's and losi's lol.
BORMAC
27-04-2007, 12:11 PM
What Im dieing to know is----will it be the same car? I mean will the car be very faithful to the original?
stefke
27-04-2007, 12:17 PM
What Im dieing to know is----will it be the same car? I mean will the car be very faithful to the original?
reading the description on the Tamiya USA site, I'm guessing it will be like the Frog re-issue. There Tamiya changed some small things like the dogbones and shock internals to make it more reliable/cheaper, changes that do not ruin the vintage/original look.
TRF_Tastic
27-04-2007, 01:49 PM
The Release does say improved chassis design, so could mea anything.
jimmy
27-04-2007, 01:51 PM
Cells are a lot bigger than they used to be so maybe there is a little more room? :confused:
dallasv8
12-05-2007, 01:53 PM
http://tamiyablog.com/ i wonder if the df-03 hotshot pictured there is what the new one will be?
sosidge
12-05-2007, 02:54 PM
Lot's of things on it make me think you might be right, it has a real "factory" look to it...
http://tamiyablog.com/uploaded_images/tamiya_df03_hot_shot-716231.jpg
- Different coloured wheels, look too good to be a dye or paint job on existing white wheels.
- Very professional Hotshot/DF-03 hybrid chassis, you can even see the anti-roll bar links coming out beside the shock tower.
Ahh.. but Tamiya said the 2007 HS will have monoshocks.. I reckon it will be fairly faithful to the original a bit like the 2005 Frog..
Nah, it wouldn't be called a re-release if it was this different. It'd just be called a Hotshot 2007 or Hotshot 3. This one looks good, but I suspect it's made up by some enthusiast. If I had to guess, it's probably Grahoo. Haha.
I'm thinking the changes are going to be dogbones.
moonloop
15-05-2007, 02:51 PM
Hopefully will be shown at the upcoming HobbyShow in the next couple of day....
Tony Gray
17-05-2007, 07:19 AM
It's here guys...and damn close to the original!
I want at least two...
jimmy
17-05-2007, 09:12 AM
Awesome, I love this car. I like how they show what the old / new parts are too..
I wonder if we could get a heat of these racing :)
dirtrider
18-06-2007, 09:21 AM
When is thuis thing coming out... I hope it ain't cheapo tamiya plastic but a bit more quality. Price will be about 175 euros I think... it's 28700 yen so... :)
stefke
19-07-2007, 01:54 PM
It seems like they're available at rc-champ :
http://sv09.wadax.ne.jp/~rc-champ-jp/cp-bin/oscommerce/catalog/default.php/cPath/163?osCsid=42a38a0d12c2db7a4f601daf3899dea0
Does anyone has a clue what the difference is between those versions ?
BTW, 14.200 Yen is a great price !
terry.sc
19-07-2007, 04:52 PM
58391 Hot shot kit 14,200 Yen
58391b Hot shot kit + bearings 15,400 Yen
58391f Hot shot 2007 + ESC 22,300 Yen
58391fb Hot shot 2007 +ESC and bearings 23,300 Yen
58391s Hot shot 2007 low spec complete deal 28,400 Yen
58391s2 Hot shot 2007 high spec complete deal 36,800 Yen
Champ is the cheapest by far at the moment. The easiest way to order from them is to email Masa at
[email protected] with what you want and your address and he will email back with a price including delivery.
Isn't the strong pound great.:D
stegger
19-07-2007, 09:25 PM
14,200.00 JPY
=
56.7877 GBP
How great is that :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:
Does anybody know if this would incure import taxes etc......
terry.sc
20-07-2007, 01:36 AM
Anything imported into the UK from anywhere outside the EU should incur customs duty and VAT. In reality stuff from the US gets stuck in customs and stuff from Japan or Hong Kong usually avoids customs fees. if it's delivered by the post office.
If you are lucky it will sail through customs, if you are unlucky and it gets stopped you will have to pay duty/vat/duty processing fee. This can be as much as £25-35 for a Hotshot kit depending on the fees charged by whoever delivers the kit in the UK. If it gets delivered by Parcelfarce they will charge you £13.50 for 'processing' your customs charges - not bad for sending you a letter
dallasv8
21-07-2007, 12:38 PM
i had mine pre ordered with champ,it should get here next week some time,and all for $216 aussie dollars with bearings :)
neiloliver
21-07-2007, 06:07 PM
Which version did you order? with bearings and esc?
dallasv8
22-07-2007, 04:32 AM
just with bearings
bender
22-07-2007, 11:45 AM
i had mine pre ordered with champ,it should get here next week some time,and all for $216 aussie dollars with bearings :)
Mine left Customs in Sydney around 4pm yesterday - I wonder when it will get to Brisbane?
I only got the standard kit - I'm sure I've got more than enough Tamiya size bearings laying around :D
stefke
01-08-2007, 02:15 PM
Just ordered two. One will be a shelf queen next to the Wild One (restored original), Frog and Hornet, the other is going to be a runner just to fool around. :D
dallasv8
07-08-2007, 02:01 AM
Mine left Customs in Sydney around 4pm yesterday - I wonder when it will get to Brisbane?
I only got the standard kit - I'm sure I've got more than enough Tamiya size bearings laying around :D
how do i track the progress of my Hotshot from Champ rc? i have the tracking number but have no idea who he ships through :D
thanks,Dallas.
dallasv8
07-08-2007, 02:37 AM
ok, worked it out :)
it is now in my hands,and its so darn pretty ;)
neiloliver
07-08-2007, 07:32 AM
Pictures!? how much is hotshot, how much hotshot II and how much totally new?
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jimmy
07-08-2007, 07:46 AM
I don't think there is anything hotshot2 - it's hotshot all the way except where they needed to improve it, drive shafts, inside shocks etc..
I fancy racing one at Nationals, I think we should all get one.:)
bender
07-08-2007, 07:59 AM
The car might use the top half of the Hotshot 2 chassis as it has the little hatch - as can be seen on my car:
http://web.aanet.com.au/fir/bender/Vintage_files/hotshot6.jpg
jimmy
07-08-2007, 08:02 AM
The only problem with that car is that I'll have to buy 'Stick packs' :(
neiloliver
07-08-2007, 10:15 AM
Buy? If you review it you know who to ask... Not sure if IB's will fit in the slot though, they might be too snug. Sanyo 2400 would fit though.
That is a hot shot II cover. I used to have one, they fitted it so the magic smoke had an escape route when my Futaba MC112B ESC used to give up...
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terry.sc
07-08-2007, 09:34 PM
The rerelease uses Hotshot 2 chassis (so there's the hatch) and also the HS2 front uprights. The original Hotshot uprights are also included on the damper sprue, which they include a spare set so you can replace them when they inevitably break.
Modern side by side packs should fit, after all the hump pack it was designed for was a side by side pack inside a moulded plastic box.
There are a lot of differences between the rerelease and the original. There is the obvious different propshaft and driveshafts, and different shock metal parts, but there are a lot of subtle differences.
Rear upper arms are now reinforced, so less chance of those breaking.
New kingpins with hex drive head instead of screw slot. By not having a sharp edge to grind away at the ball cup it should keep the slop down to the standard built in slop.:D
E clips to hold the diff cups in place instead of those little C clips, which once you got them on were virtually impossible to remove again.
Wing mount has an extra vertical strut under it, so it is properly supported now.
jimmy
07-08-2007, 09:39 PM
Thanks for that Terry
I don't fancy the Idea of using my racing packs as they would just fall apart in there with the first crash - but I guess if you cover side-by-side packs in a strong heat shrink they should be OK. I might have to talk to Neil though it seems :)
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