1/10th Electric Buying Advice

[saxosim]

Hi All,

I was just looking for some advice please, I am looking for a cheap 1/10 electric buggy that I can use to race in the winter at my local club which does indoor racing and I just wandered if anyone had come across or tried the Ansmann Mud Rat and what are they like.

http://www.m-k-racing.com/product_info.php?cPath=1_257&products_id=7332&<osCsid>

They seem amazingly cheap at £95 ready to run so honest opinions please as I don't want to throw loads of money into electric it is just for me to learn and practice with over the winter until I am back out on the track with my Losi nitro buggy.

Thanks or as an alternative am I best putting the same money into a second hand Associated B4 through Fleabay etc?

I already have a Spektrum DX3 which I use with my nitro buggy so i assume I can use this with the second model memory and spare receiver with the electric buggy? I would probably use this if possible to replce the unit which comes with the Ansmann etc

Thanks please let me know any advice greatly received

Regards
Simon :thumbsup:

[Battle_axe]

i run the madrat and it is a great car there is 2 flaws with it one is the plastic shocks the tops tend to pop off but you can glue them on the other is the t peice but again the revised part is only about £4 and then it is a great car to learn with :)

do you mind me asking what track you want to go to?

[stampede vxlboy]

madrat or b4 i would say :thumbsup:

[b4 rules]

b4 all the way there really really good for abit more money

[stampede vxlboy]

i got both cars i would say the madrat better than a b4 myself
the madrat does not come with alloy shocks as it show were your get it from there plastic shocks

[Stu]

i run the madrat and it is a great car there is 2 flaws with it one is the plastic shocks the tops tend to pop off but you can glue them on the other is the t peice but again the revised part is only about £4 and then it is a great car to learn with :)


The B4 is far and away the better car - but is more money.
The madrat, above considered, is good for the money.
A used B4 may be a good option?

[MRD]

i got both cars i would say the madrat better than a b4 myself
the madrat does not come with alloy shocks as it show were your get it from there plastic shocks

Which tracks are you running your b4 and madrat at? Is it an indoor or outdoor venue? I'm interested to see which tracks suited the madrat more than the B4.

[Battle_axe]

Which tracks are you running your b4 and madrat at? Is it an indoor or outdoor venue? I'm interested to see which tracks suited the madrat more than the B4.

the madrat has a losi like rear end making it produce allot of rear end grip sometimes meaning it pushes like a barge it can be made to go silly fast though its got potential

[saxosim]

Hiya All,

Cheers for the advice, I honestly can't decide what to do for the best now between a new Mud Rat or used B4?! Can you upgrade the shocks on the Mud Rat to alloy versions etc?

Venue wise I have never been there before but am interested in going along to Jarrow and Oxclose RC Racing club which is part of BRCA and in Newcastle upon Tyne where I live. I have seen a video on Youtube of the venue in action and it appears to be a school with a hard floor, would this influence which of the 2 buggies would be best as there is no mud involved?

Thanks again for any advice

Also tyre wise what would be good for a hard indoor surface and does anyone race with this club, is it good and are the guys friendly as I am still a beginner and just learning.

Regards
Simon :thumbsup:

[Battle_axe]

Hiya All,

Cheers for the advice, I honestly can't decide what to do for the best now between a new Mud Rat or the B4?! Can you upgrade the shocks n the Mud Rat to alloy versions etc?

Venue wise I have never been there before but am interested in ging along to Jarrow and Oxclose RC Racing club which is part of BRCA and in Newcastle upon Tyne where I live. I have seen a video on Youtube of the venue in action and it appears to be a school with a hard floor, would this influence which of the 2 buggies would be best as there is no mud involved?

Thanks again for any advice

Regards
Simon :thumbsup:

you sure can upgrade the shocks i run fastracx ones umm allot of b4 ones get used losi ones fit as do tamyia TRF

[saxosim]

Cheers Battle-axe what sort of price are the fastracx upgrades and can you point me to a link for them please if possible, do you think the Mud Rat would be okay on a hard indoor type surface?

Also can anyone advise what are the servos like on the Mud Rat would they stand up to a night of racing or would they best be upgraded, if so please can anyone advise so reasonable quality and proce ones to put in?

Also battery wise as I have never ran electric what is my best reasonable option?

Cheers
Simon

[Battle_axe]

Cheers Battle-axe what sort of price are the fastracx upgrades and can you point me to a link for them please if possible, do you think the Mud Rat would be okay on a hard indoor type surface?

Cheers
Simon

these on the rear http://www.modelsport.co.uk/?CallFunction=ShowSpecification&ItemID=33231

these on the front http://www.modelsport.co.uk/?CallFunction=ShowSpecification&ItemID=15436

on a hard surface it should be fine i have never ran mine on it though you would be best to ask at the track what setup to run

[saxosim]

Hiya,

What is the best battery option on the Mudrat?

Cheers on the advice battle_axe

Is the Mudrat quite fast in standard form with a 540 motor?

Cheers
Simon :thumbsup:

[Battle_axe]

the ESC in the RTR does not have LiPo cutoff so if you run lipo then you need to be carefull that you dont run them too low i run NiMh in my car still and you can pick up some cells at a good price but in the end lipo is the way to go it depends what you are after lipo is more expensive but less work NiMh is cheep but requires looking after

[Dazzler]

Simon,

I don't know the venue, but from looking on youtube as you have done, it's predominantly a polished wood floor, a 2wd will certainly test your abillity to drive or will be a steep learning curve! Have you considered a 4wd buggy?

Just something for you to consider.

P.S. It's a Madrat, not Mudrat :lol: But not a bad name it's got to be said..

[stampede vxlboy]

its cost me £45 kit plus. tyres and stronger wheels and b4 wing £35 plus £25 b4 shocks and rpm rodends . plastric on the madrat is not good at all but i like the car it good on a track first time i ever raced i came 7 and i had the standard shocks off the madrat

[saxosim]

Hi Dazzler, lol cheer I hadn't read it properly been calling a Mud Rat :blush: Sorry!!

Are there any reasonable priced 4wd buggies around £100 that i should look at cheers re the 2wd input.

Cheers
Simon

[saxosim]

Cheers for the advice Stampede vxlboy, it possibly sounds like if I need to spend a fair bit on the Madrat to bring it up to spec, maybe i should look at a used B4 instead do you think?

Also cheers re the Lipo info maybe NiMh would be my best option

Cheers
Simon :thumbsup:

[stampede vxlboy]

i got a b4 forsale if you want 1 its up forsale rtr brushless but will just sell as a roller with carbon bits etc

[stampede vxlboy]

i got nimh battery as well forsale is a picture of a truck and the charger as well

[saxosim]

What would I need to buy on top Stampede vxlboy and what sort of price are you asking? Do you have a link to some photos? - Ahh just found you advert cheers will give it some thought thanks .

Thanks
Simon

[stampede vxlboy]

i can do it brushed for cheaper if you like plus there about £100 worth of spares and 2 brandnew tool sets

[Dazzler]

If I was looking for a first 4wd buggy, I personnaly would be very happy with the Kyosho Lazer ZX5, they do an RTR (for £180), I don't know how these hold together, but the fully spec'd one could be picked up s/hand cheaply (I would think for around 70 to 80 pounds)

without doubt, others on here will have opinions, but I liked my ZX5 and found it to be a competitive, easy to drive and set-up car.

I guess for people to advise, you need to have a think about what your budget is.

[mdb_75]

As Dazzler says, you'll need a 4wd buggy if the club that you will be racing at has a polished wooden floor. You'll have little to no chance with a 2wd!

Either get a cheaper new buggy like the Kyosho zx5 or a Hpi Cyber 10b. You could even get a second hand Associated B44, Schumacher Cat Sx or similar off this forum resonably cheaply.

[stampede vxlboy]

b4 and madrat work great on wooden floors with mini stikes on most of the club uses 2 wheel drive

[saxosim]

Hi All,

Thanks for all of the advice I am really stuck what to do now too many options. It sounds like 4wd is definately the best option for hard floors, thanks I will take a look and see if i can find something like a Kyosho Lazer ZX5 specced up as you mention Dazzler for £80 ish. I was really looking to do this on a budget if possible for about £100 to get me up and running. I would expect to then have to buy a battery on top of this amount.

I already have my Spektrum DX3 controller and SR3000 receiver 2.4 ghz system from my Losi 8ight nitro buggy so I guess these will be fine with an electric set-up running indoors and to save more cash?

Thanks all, if anyone hears of a reasonable price 4wd electric buggy for sale cheapish please kindly let me know.

Regards
Simon :thumbsup:

[MRD]

b4 and madrat work great on wooden floors with mini stikes on most of the club uses 2 wheel drive

What club are you running at now?

[Battle_axe]

What club are you running at now?
he is not this is the whole point stampy is a basher not a racer so take what he says with a pinch of salt

[stampede vxlboy]

been working away at london so been to some good track. lots of work down there so will be racing down there. and the madrat work better for me than the b4:lol:

[Scouser]

Saxoism, i have sent you a p.m. ;)