Polishing black cars?!?! [Archive]

ex-sco77morgan

30-10-2009, 02:51 PM

Ok then what's prob you getting a haze'y finish after cleaning? If so you have grime in multiple layers of wax therefore needs cutting right back. I'd have a look at a black T cut then use a quality polish and wax afterwards. Need to get into the paint and cut back quite a bit dude.

SM

millzy

30-10-2009, 02:54 PM

super guard wash is really good http://shop.supagard.com/cnb/shop/supagard?op=catalogue-products-null&prodCategoryID=1&title=Exterior

i use it on my wifes black clio - gets all the crap off and dosent streak- and if i can be botherd i wax it with Autogylm ultra deep shine

Bungleaio

30-10-2009, 03:03 PM

Black cars don't stay black for long, if you want to keep them looking their best you'll need to wash it regularly.

I use meguires car shampoo and dodo juice wax but it really needs a proper polish as it's got a fair few swirl marks on it.

I know this says subaru but it'll give you an idea of what level you could take it to if you want your car looking tip top. http://bbs.scoobynet.com/car-care-380/769657-recommended-products-routine-dark-metallic-pearlescent-subarus.html

bodgit

30-10-2009, 03:21 PM

Get all the cack washed off then use supaguard 100. It puts a hell of a shine on and lasts for up to 3 years without the need to wax again just a nomal wash will do. A few valeters I know use it.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SUPAGARD-PROFESSIONAL-100-PAINT-SEALANT_W0QQitemZ280408140697QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK _CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item4149a0ab9 9

Chrislong

30-10-2009, 03:25 PM

Gibsy

30-10-2009, 04:32 PM

Turtle Wax :wub

pugs

30-10-2009, 04:52 PM

Never use anything else but autoglym myself, always used it on every car I've had especially for car shows:D It's also one of the very few that won't leave polish swirl marks on a dark car in sunlight.

ryan_93

30-10-2009, 05:09 PM

if you want to spend some money, invest in a meguiers g220 machine polisher, with meguiers 80, 83 and 83 polishes it gets rid of all of those swirl marks, if you are going to be hand polishing go for Auto glym ultra deep shine is designed for black cars and we have found this works best out of the polishes we have tried.

dodgydiy

30-10-2009, 09:41 PM

pressure wash it, T cut it and then polish with autoglym super resin polish using nice soft polishing cloths. autoglym also do a high gloss polish but that needs to be put on after super resin polish and is only relly worth it for a show car. use autoglym stuff for everything, expensive but well worth it in comparison to others

traffman

30-10-2009, 11:04 PM

Dont use T cut youll end up with more swirls than you had before.

Meguars do a scratch x lotion that takes out most marks but you need to use loads of elbow grease.

Our cars black and the best polish bar none that also masks some imperfections is a product called Blackfire.

Look on Motor geek for it or Polished Bliss.

Col

30-10-2009, 11:45 PM

Unfortunately polish is like alot of other things - you pay for what you get. I use alot of autoglym myself, but there are many other great products out there. Speak to schlong for great advise.

ryan_93

31-10-2009, 09:44 AM

try some zymol royale its a fair price aswell haha

http://www.vertar.com/zymol/zymol-royale-glaze/

losixxx

31-10-2009, 10:14 AM

I can deswirl it and wax it for you - leave it looking mint, and give you thorough advice on how to delay the swirls coming back, check my facebook album dude, possibly strike a deal if your dad can repolish my corroding alloys/repair 1 kerbed alloys.

Chris is the master!! asked his advice last year and followed what he advised to buy and how to use them and car bodywork still looks like when it left the showroom.....(especially like the bubble gum smelling polish Chris ;):woot:)

Reno

31-10-2009, 10:53 AM

I always use Autoglym Products:

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f344/Reno49/t406.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f344/Reno49/t404.jpg

njc11

31-10-2009, 11:07 AM

Mr Long comes highly recommended :thumbsup:

When i do cars myself either Meguiars or Menzerna (intensive and final finish) products using a Porter Cable Rotary buffer then to finish off Victoria Concours Wax..

Auto Glym products are also very good.. on black the resin polish is good..BUT when the bodywork is warm to touch its a pig to remove.. SO on Black cars use AG's Ultra Deep Shine... ive found hot or cold it goes on perfect and buffs of nicely!

If you want to be even shinier using AG's stuff get the Extra Gloss Protection, apply it an leave it on the paintwork for about an hour then buff to remove :thumbsup:

jimmy

31-10-2009, 12:49 PM

This is that car I want you to scrub up for me Chris - no rush, it's dark metallic blue btw. I've got some wax etc, but I can't get rid of the swirls at all - tho you can't see them in the pic I took today (it's just been lightly jetwashed down at low pressure)

http://www.oople.com/downloads/111r.jpg

Fluo yellow stickers for the win!

GRIFF55

31-10-2009, 12:56 PM

flo yellow wheels now Jimmy, to finishe her off!!! Very nice car there mate:thumbsup:

Chrislong

31-10-2009, 12:59 PM

:wub That car is lovely Jimmy!! Its one of those dark colours which shows any slight swirls, but I can do it nicely - I did Nick Caro's Black VX and that came out amazing, so I'll use the same Sonus polishes to deswirl, and I may try R222 to wax it as it'll deepen the metallic nicely, then I might put a second layer of wax, Collinite, as its hard as nails and will seal in the deep finish through the winter.

Ironically, its these and VX's which take the longest, as due to them being fibreglass the finishes are softer, so I need to be careful, I use very mild polishes and work them longer at low speeds.

The quickest car I have done is the biggest! A Picasso, but thats because it is all windows! ha ha.

Don't use my own car for reference, im ashamed to say the paint is hanging! It is desperate need of a detail, and I intend to do it before new year. :blush: not sure which new year :blush:

jimmy

31-10-2009, 05:22 PM

Thanks Chris, I've been over your side of the pennines three times today having fun in it over the top of the hills - not sure of the road, the A640 maybe? Awesome in that car :thumbsup:
Sounds good to me tho mate - its nice looking and it's clean, but it just doesn't have that deep gloss. I like the idea of a long lasting shine :woot:

Richard Lowe

31-10-2009, 05:52 PM

You finally got it Jimmy, very nice :thumbsup:

On mine I use Autoglym super resin polish then Autoglym HD wax with a light machine buff after each ;)

pugs

31-10-2009, 06:20 PM

You finally got it Jimmy, very nice :thumbsup:

On mine I use Autoglym super resin polish then Autoglym HD wax with a light machine buff after each ;)

Rich try the extra gloss protection after the resin polish I think it lasts a bit longer, see what you think......

Richard Lowe

31-10-2009, 06:53 PM

I've got some of that, but I couldn't figure out how you are supposed to use it :lol:

It's like water!

JustARcFan

31-10-2009, 07:00 PM

Meguiare's is a very nice product.

Try these steps:

Wash with a product u use in the kitchen (to get all the old wax etc off)

1. NXT car wash
2. Scratch X
3. DEEP CRYSTAL® SYSTEM POLISH (http://www.meguiarsdirect.com/product_detail.asp?T1=MEG+A2116)
Deep Crystal polish
4. NXT tech wax
It's also very important to use a good wash mit + towels (microfiber)

Takes a few hours to do but the result is amazing.

steelie600

31-10-2009, 07:01 PM

Chris i didnt know you were a polishing guru!!!

Wanna have a do a cleaning my vr4 till it hurts me eyes?? Ill want the whole car doing tho inside n out, i think shell benefit from a full valet.

Rich D

31-10-2009, 07:15 PM

Nice car Jimmy :wub

I sold my Lotus a while back but it was black. I realy loved it and owned it for more than three years. Never missed a beat. My mate runs his own detailing business. He looked after it for me - I lent him the car during the week to play in and got it back mint for the weekend when i had time to use it :thumbsup:

He used clay to remove tiny "bits" sunk into the paint. I was sceptical of this at first but it really does work. Anyway, i have seen some of Chris`s work on his FB page and im sure he`ll do you a great job. :thumbsup:

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj305/D3URY/mylotus.jpg

Rich D

31-10-2009, 07:21 PM

A few cars that my mate has done/currently looks after :thumbsup:

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v283/225/3/632878709/n632878709_636548_9133.jpg

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v283/225/3/632878709/n632878709_638900_5916.jpg

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v283/225/3/632878709/n632878709_638933_1047.jpg

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v333/225/3/632878709/n632878709_794825_2122.jpg

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v358/225/3/632878709/n632878709_949005_8913.jpg

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v358/225/3/632878709/n632878709_949006_9223.jpg

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v358/225/3/632878709/n632878709_949008_9853.jpg

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v653/225/3/632878709/n632878709_1227515_8387.jpg

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs013.snc1/4481_84518828709_632878709_1820153_2107140_n.jpg

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs053.snc1/4481_87310553709_632878709_1864513_2741919_n.jpg

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs155.snc1/5768_105103008709_632878709_2139106_8264758_n.jpg

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs246.snc1/9328_152499553709_632878709_2695277_1935433_n.jpg

JustARcFan

31-10-2009, 07:36 PM

What is that strange white car??

Rich D

31-10-2009, 07:42 PM

Metro 6R4 road going special 2k miles from new :)

burgie

31-10-2009, 07:45 PM

What is that strange white car??

Seriously?

I assume you mean the boxy one? It's a metro 6R4 - one of the iconic rally cars of the era...

JustARcFan

31-10-2009, 07:55 PM

I'm not so in rally cars so didn't recognize it :blush:

pugs

31-10-2009, 08:24 PM

I've got some of that, but I couldn't figure out how you are supposed to use it :lol:

It's like water!

Just spread it evenly with a soft cloth all over the car after resin polish, leave it on for about 1 hour then buff it off, I find it leaves a very hard coating that lasts longer than the hd wax;), but see what you think....

pugs

31-10-2009, 08:27 PM

Metro 6R4 road going special 2k miles from new :)

It's very nice....but i'd rather have a rs200:drool:

ben

31-10-2009, 09:00 PM

Very nice but missing the centre of the rear spoiler :eh?:

Chrislong

31-10-2009, 09:20 PM

Very nice but missing the centre of the rear spoiler :eh?:

Well spotted Benji! Prob removed it so can get machine to the roof.

I don't admire the 6R4, although recognise why others do and the purpose of them. I detailed a RS200 a few years ago, had done 200 miles or so from new, lovely. It was the RS200 that ended the Group B by ploughing through a crowd of spectators. :cry:

Chrislong

31-10-2009, 09:22 PM

Chris i didnt know you were a polishing guru!!!

Wanna have a do a cleaning my vr4 till it hurts me eyes?? Ill want the whole car doing tho inside n out, i think shell benefit from a full valet.

I can do, but who are you? Sorry :blush: I don't recognise your username...

steelie600

31-10-2009, 09:36 PM

Big Kev Davies aka Fat Knaka from NNRC

pugs

31-10-2009, 09:38 PM

It was the RS200 that ended the Group B by ploughing through a crowd of spectators. :cry:[/quote]

Sort of, played a big part in it, there was a lot of bad accidents with group b cars, think that just finished them off Chris, it was at rally portugal 1986 and it was a portugese driver who hit them, not one of the team drivers, then again the crowd was standing lining the edge of the roads, just wouldn't of happened in nowadays.

ben

31-10-2009, 09:42 PM

and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xokJEbfsDe0 :cry:

Col

31-10-2009, 09:52 PM

Back on topic ( a little...)

Not black either, but the principle is the same. Super resin a couple of weeks ago, washed ready for HD tomorow.
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o276/thegreatonereturns/P311009_1155_01.jpg

edit: it's 11 years old...

Chrislong

31-10-2009, 10:36 PM

Big Kev Davies aka Fat Knaka from NNRC

I thought it might be, didn't want to presume (or call someone Fat Knaka who may take offence :D). :thumbsup:

littlened

02-11-2009, 02:30 PM

Got a Black Saphire Astra, and I use Autoglym super resin polish, then once that polished off I go over it with an autoglym gloss finish. Absolutely stunny finish.

Doesn't stay black for long though :)

http://www.web-development-server.com/rc/astra3.jpg

rcracer

02-11-2009, 03:22 PM

Once upon a time mine did shine :cry: any ideas what to use for removing sea spray residue ?

http://www.oople.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=14&pictureid=493

littlened

02-11-2009, 05:18 PM

Once upon a time mine did shine :cry: any ideas what to use for removing sea spray residue ?

http://www.oople.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=14&pictureid=493

I'm no expert, but something with a fine grit in it maybe? the autoglym super resin polish I use has a bit it. If that doesn't work try something harser. You could try t-cut.

Garry Driffill

02-11-2009, 07:27 PM

Metro 6R4 road going special 2k miles from new :)

I remeber looking at these on Facebook Rich actually, I think Lee said somthing on a status once about the Metro 6R4..

Top job! :thumbsup:

Hog

02-11-2009, 08:19 PM

What about metallic black paint? Any advice for that? Mine's a Fabia VRS in "black magic" I think it's called.

pugs

02-11-2009, 08:34 PM

What about metallic black paint? Any advice for that? Mine's a Fabia VRS in "black magic" I think it's called.

use autoglym super resin polish and if you want to be really posh do it with extra gloss protection after the resin, metallic paint is laquered so the extra gloss will work even better:)

Lee Martin

02-11-2009, 10:03 PM

black paint...easy...just use rain water!

turbo_brick

03-11-2009, 12:43 AM

http://nedetailing.co.uk/templates/default/index.php?page=view_home

Pete uses this shop loads now, he's just got some 'black hole' from them which is good stuff (we both have black cars)

pugs ae you on commission? :p

Mx