Long Time Ago

[StainlessSteelRat]

Hi All,

Just wanted to say hi. I going to pop over to the track tomorrow and have a look around. I'm hoping to get back into racing again, it's been over 10 years I reckon. I have a couple of Cat '98s that are nearly ready for action. Just need a speed controller, and to work out what radio gear to go for. Should I just stick with the old 27mhz gear or go for this fancy 2.4ghz stuff??

I believe there is a Cat '98 racing, so it'd be good to see it tomorrow if it's around.

BFN,

Stuart.

[pugs]

why not stick with the 27mhz to start with? I doubt many other people will be using it to get crystal clashes etc....

[johnnygibbon]

go 2.4g and brushless motor set up . awsome. ask si about antiques his are rapid. regurally nail any new stuff i turn up with. haha race on:thumbsup:
. heard this new track could be a car destroyer . hahaha haha.

[Si Coe]

I won't be running my Cat'98 but it will be there. I'll be running an even older RC10T!
Still I'm sure I can show you how to make an old car fly with todays tech. My Cat is just as quick indoors as my more modern D4.

[StainlessSteelRat]

Cool, I'll try and find you and you can give me some pointer. Cheers.

S.

[kitesurfer73]

I won't be running my Cat'98 but it will be there. I'll be running an even older RC10T!
Still I'm sure I can show you how to make an old car fly with todays tech. My Cat is just as quick indoors as my more modern D4.

The cat has been side lined due to me borrowing the esc from it!! lol,the 98 model si is running is realy nice car.just think running costs are alot higher due to the modern brushless is really too tough on the old gurl's,then again i won a race with si's car and it is just as good as any of the new stuff you will see tomorrow, maybe better i mean most of all the 4wd today are based round the cat concept anyways.....

[StainlessSteelRat]

I popped along today, saw an awesome track. I even got to see Dave's epic crash. Definitely going to get my car up and running for the next meeting on the 26th.

Cool.

S.

[Si Coe]

I brought the Cat and sat it on my table but nobody asked me about it!

Anyway - All you need to fly with the Cat is a nice brushless system and a set of Lipos. Don't go overboard and slap in some insane 4.5t monster system though - the old girls belts can't cope with that and the fronts are hard to source (Schumacher stock plenty of rears though).
This (http://www.giantcod.co.uk/ezrun-4300kv-bushless-motor-p-403297.html) works nicely. Its not really 540sized which means its not got the torque of other motors so is kinder in belts. Couple it with this (http://www.giantcod.co.uk/ezrun-reverse-program-brushless-p-403362.html) esc and you have a reliable combo that won't strain the car. You can run the 35A version but i find that overheats in the Cat.
Lipo wise what I did was just get one of these (http://www.roundabouttoys.com/store/product/15156/FTX2551-3600mAH-20C-7.4V-LIPO/) and make a brace to hold it where the saddles used to mount. Its lighter than saddles so some weights will be needed. The one pack is all you need - amazingly you'll not use more an 1500mAhs in a race and you don't need to discharge Lipos. Just hook them to the charger and peak them back up. You'll need a Lipo compatible charger.

[StainlessSteelRat]

Ah really, damn. I looked around but just saw a see of cars and people. :blush:

I take it you were going to put some links in your last post??

I did see a couple of Cat SXs and just thought 'I want one of those'.

One lipo sounds good. I think I'll come along on the 26th with my old brushed setup, just so I can get to race and get some of the stuff you mentioned on order.

Stuart.

[Si Coe]

There are links - you just can't see them! Editted to be clearer!

I think my car ended up on the floor as my workspace got rather crowded, must have been then!

[StainlessSteelRat]

Hi Si et al.

I've been working on my CATs, and I have one nearly ready for racing (if there is ever room that is ;-) ), but I'm missing some rear hub carrier spacers... Si, any idea what part number they would come under, or any thing that I could use in place of. I bought some M3 alloy spacers, but they didn't fit the pivot pins.

I managed to get my hand on a Novak GTB ESC and a Velocity Motor. Gonna stick with my bunch of NiMHs for now, I have a few packs I've managed to recover from being in the loft with no charge. This new (or at least new to me) brushless tech is awesome.

BNF,

Stuart

[Si Coe]

I'm sure mine look like plastic spacers so pretty much any suitable sized washers should do. Unfortunately I don't have the car at present so can't tell you the size. At a pinch I'd use a bit of nitro fuel tubing cut to size myself.
The manual (http://www.retromodelisme.com/manuels_pages/66/cat-2000-ec-schumacher.html)doesn't give them a part number, but it looks like they come with the rear hub carriers which are out of stock.

What Velocity have you got? I'm currently running the 5.5L (blue - very nice motor) in my D4, and have previously owned the 5.5R (purple - brutal) and the 4.5R which was insane and would kill your belts in seconds!

[StainlessSteelRat]

Well, erm.. I could lie and say I have a 10.5R, but I haven't.

I have a Velocity 3.5R and an Orion 4.5R. They were cheap on ebay. I don't think the Novak Lights were out when I got them. I do like the sound of the 5.5L though, but I'll see how I get on with the ones I have. I've ran the 3.5R outside and it seemed fine, but there wasn't much traction. I was fast as hell though, which I liked. ;)

I've seen some rear hub carriers on ebay, but it doesn't look like the spacers are included.....


S.

[bigred5765]

dude them motors will just cause you more problems than there worth,no one uses them in off road thats why they were cheap, 5.5 is the fastest the big boys go 6.5 or a 7.5 would be more than fast enough for raceing,all you will do is spend all day wondering why you cant get around the track,

[budfish]

dude them motors will just cause you more problems than there worth,no one uses them in off road thats why they were cheap, 5.5 is the fastest the big boys go 6.5 or a 7.5 would be more than fast enough for raceing,all you will do is spend all day wondering why you cant get around the track,

I totaly agree with big red I bought a 5.5 turn x12 motor for use at bury and boy do I wish I got a 6.5 i wasn't a good driver to start with and I seem to be worse now!!! Choked

buds

[StainlessSteelRat]

To be honest, I thought you may say that. :blush:

What I'll do then is just try it with my 'outdoor' cat, indoors. I have assigned one for indoors, and one for outdoors, so at least if it does get destroyed in a blaze of glory, then I'll have my indoor one to be a bit more sensible.

So, since bury is full at the moment, where can I go to at least get some practice. I've seen you guys mention a few other places (ashton, denton?).

I'll post some pictures shortly of the cats shortly.

S.

[rob m]

I totaly agree with big red I bought a 5.5 turn x12 motor for use at bury and boy do I wish I got a 6.5 i wasn't a good driver to start with and I seem to be worse now!!! Choked

budsare you going to sell your 5.5 dave?

[Si Coe]

To be honest, I thought you may say that. :blush:

What I'll do then is just try it with my 'outdoor' cat, indoors. I have assigned one for indoors, and one for outdoors, so at least if it does get destroyed in a blaze of glory, then I'll have my indoor one to be a bit more sensible.

So, since bury is full at the moment, where can I go to at least get some practice. I've seen you guys mention a few other places (ashton, denton?).

I'll post some pictures shortly of the cats shortly.

S.


You can practice outdoors at Goshen if you can find it under the snow!

Otherwise the current indoor haunts to check out are:

Roundabout Raceway (Denton - see link (http://www.oople.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=75) Mondays but not next week)

Stockport Model Car Club (Cheadle - see link (http://www.stockportmcc.org.uk/) Thursdays)

Ribble Valley (Preston - see link (http://www.oople.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=87) Wednesdays)

Roundabout is currently really slippery, but a good sized track. Its mostly attended by the Bury crew.
Stockport is the size of a postage stamp and all hairpins. That said my Cat'98 kicks ass in there.....
I've not been to Ribble myself so can't say.

[T4miy4 Guy]

That said my Cat'98 kicks ass in there.....
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Lies.... :p

Andy

[rob m]

That said my Cat'98 kicks ass in there.....
Ikick ass!...... the only thing your cat 98 does is shows its ass, its always on its roof:p

[T4miy4 Guy]

kick ass!...... the only thing your cat 98 does is shows its ass, its always on its roof:p

Pmsl :thumbsup: n1 Rob!

Andy

[Si Coe]

Excuse me! It beats your Dugra in there (only place I ever can beat you admittedly) provided the cheapo Ezrun doesn't overheat. And since I can't beat you anywhere else, that means the Cat must be really really good there because it has to make up for my driving!

In fact, most of the time I beat you at Cheadle its because you try ramming me to overtake but the Cat sticks its claws in the carpet and its you who ends up on his roof!

[johnnygibbon]

you better watch out . just got in from ribble. the b max is going nice grip and power. and a contender for that soda truck has emerged. like a frankenstiens monster truck. . but part ansmann:thumbsup:

[T4miy4 Guy]

Excuse me! It beats your Dugra in there (only place I ever can beat you admittedly) provided the cheapo Ezrun doesn't overheat. And since I can't beat you anywhere else, that means the Cat must be really really good there because it has to make up for my driving!

In fact, most of the time I beat you at Cheadle its because you try ramming me to overtake but the Cat sticks its claws in the carpet and its you who ends up on his roof!

Show me please Si

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36032

Andy :p

[Si Coe]

Cheadle Andy, not Denton! Would so help if you could read.....

[T4miy4 Guy]

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h31/logandadi/mrmagoo.jpg

[budfish]

Cheadle Andy, not Denton! Would so help if you could read.....



Now now ladies

buds

[johnnygibbon]

Now now ladies

buds
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come on now all these femmine comments are getting out of hand people only get upset:p

need more racing to sort out these squabbles

demolition derby any one?

1/8th not alowed

or a big air comp

[Harris Magnum]

need more racing to sort out these squabbles

demolition derby any one?

1/8th not alowed

or a big air comp

Mental note to avoid Johnny on the track:rolleyes:

[budfish]

Mental note to avoid Johnny on the track:rolleyes:

To tell you the truth I'd steer clear of them all andy( Durga) si (prehistoric d4) johnny ( b max) I've tangled with most and their poor driving just ends up costing you a fortune in spares I'm sure one of si's cars is made of iron!!

[Si Coe]

But you don't need to avoid Dave (Budfish) because his Lazer is made of cardboard and crumples to pieces at the slightest breeze.

[T4miy4 Guy]

To tell you the truth I'd steer clear of them all andy( Durga) si (prehistoric d4) johnny ( b max) I've tangled with most and their poor driving just ends up costing you a fortune in spares I'm sure one of si's cars is made of iron!!

Errm... Dave please add Mr Shanks to the list as he`s a defineat contender now after last round, he totally obliterated my Dugra:thumbsup:
The funny thing is i fixed my car ,then bought the 501 off him and fixed that too (thats why the front wheel was pished Shanks, the upper arm mount was bent) :woot: All fixed and shiny now, just need me electrics :thumbsup:

Andy

[shanks]

it was a total accident - think i got interfernce or something???

well 501x proved to be stronger than a durga

reckon my new car is stronger than a 501x

i'm happy

[T4miy4 Guy]

it was a total accident - think i got interfernce or something???

well 501x proved to be stronger than a durga

reckon my new car is stronger than a 501x

i'm happy

I still vote to add you to the list :p

I`m thinking the Durongo is mighty strong too... watch out lads :woot:

Andy