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stampede vxlboy
07-11-2009, 04:59 PM
i just wanted to know if this its a good car as i have just order 1 is there any other parts in need to race it ;)
jordan1
07-11-2009, 05:13 PM
front diff housings and front hinge pin brace are the only spares you will need, i had two xxx4g+ and all i ever broke was the diff housing and pin brace. if you can get hold of the titanium pin brace it will save you a few bob in the long run
if you've just "ordered one" then it's too late to worry wether it's any good or not.
However they are a pretty strong old chariot with sealed belt drive that's fairly indestructable if looked after and reasonable suspension. They were dropped n favour of the older xx4 simply because the suspension is better on the xx4 (for real bumpy stuff)
Treat it right and it's a good car that'll last ages. Fookin ugly though...
stampede vxlboy
07-11-2009, 05:22 PM
front diff housings and front hinge pin brace are the only spares you will need, i had two xxx4g+ and all i ever broke was the diff housing and pin brace. if you can get hold of the titanium pin brace it will save you a few bob in the long run are parts easy to get and how long do the belts last. why did you sell your xxx4 how old are they ????????
stampede vxlboy
07-11-2009, 06:00 PM
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anybody help me out how long do the belts last and are they easy to mesh the pinion gear up
super__dan
07-11-2009, 06:20 PM
Yes it's a good car, the belts will last ages if setup correctly. Front shock towers aren't the strongest though it you drive into things hard.
stampede vxlboy
07-11-2009, 06:31 PM
thanks mate are parts cheap or do they cost the earth and are parts easy to get from local modelshops
Stampmeister, you are the only one who can check your local modelshops.
stampede vxlboy
07-11-2009, 07:35 PM
i know that up too me but i wanted to know how many racing people use them
jim76
07-11-2009, 08:09 PM
the losi graphite parts are REALLY expensive compared to other stuff. The car is good indoors, put poor outdoors compared to more modern cars. The xxx4 must be around 6 years old now or more.
Front gearbox is weak and shock tower on the front. Belts should last ages on it.
Not many people use them at all now. Most people run the older XX4 as it is better, or a more modern chassis
What happened to the cyber10? And i thought you didn't want belts?
why didn't you ask BEFORE ordering it? you can't keep impulse buying then complaining after if it no good for you. This is why people get upset with you.
jhammond
07-11-2009, 08:42 PM
Stampy...
You are so bloody confusing.
You were complaining yesterday that you would only go for a shaft-drive! This morning you said you were seriously considering the B44. Now you've 'ordered' a Losi xxx4?
Can you see why people lose patience with you?
stampede vxlboy
07-11-2009, 09:29 PM
you ask me why i did not buy the losi car as it was a good car i took your word on that and i am buying this car as i cannot afford pro gear yet i like this car its the best i have seen yet. i have kids and my racing is not all about money when your on a crap wage and got 3 kids to buy xmas present for so i am buy this car as i like it and it mint condition
super__dan
07-11-2009, 09:59 PM
To be fair, the XXX4 is pretty good on a flat ish track, it's bumpy tracks it's not so good on. I won Yorks NE regional a few years back with a XXX4 though it had a few mods. I used to produce some carbon bits that I used to sell, steering mods and shock towers.
I never used to have any problems with the transmission on my car, those MASSIVE diff gears mean it's all pretty free.
You must remember though that it is still technically Losi's most recent top end kit so parts are quite expensive, I do agree though that the front bits of diff housing, pin brace and shock tower are the only things that commonly break.
stampede vxlboy
07-11-2009, 10:12 PM
thanks mate it sound good too me can you buy plastic parts for them?
stampede vxlboy
07-11-2009, 11:57 PM
cant wait to get it :D:thumbsup::)
super__dan
08-11-2009, 12:02 PM
Certain bits are available in plastic because there was the earlier XXX4 and then the later XXX4G+ which was a higher spec car all of which was 'graphite' plastic.
super__dan
08-11-2009, 12:03 PM
Have you bought a new one or used?
stampede vxlboy
08-11-2009, 02:36 PM
second hand mate were do you get the plastric bits from thanks mate i need some help were to get parts if i smashed it up cheer mate can you help me out super dan
mw02veg
08-11-2009, 02:57 PM
mate mate mate mate mate :p
Garry Driffill
08-11-2009, 03:07 PM
My last xxx4 i had was ace!
I thought that it jumped better over the triple than my X5 at Deerdale 8th scale astro track LOL, It just floated perfectly over all 15ft from peak to peak and hit the down ramp ace! :thumbsup:
rcracer
08-11-2009, 03:07 PM
second hand mate were do you get the plastric bits from thanks mate i need some help were to get parts if i smashed it up cheer mate can you help me out super dan
Come on stampy it isnt that hard to locate parts..try DMS Racing.
jim76
08-11-2009, 03:58 PM
it's a losi car stampy. any sshop that stocks losi cars will also have spares. just use google, don't be so lazy
stampede vxlboy
08-11-2009, 04:28 PM
thanks guys modelsport just sell the kits i will try diffrent shop s and can i get plastic parts for it
budfish
08-11-2009, 05:04 PM
I use to have a few of these cars shock towers wishbones go for fun models in motion was the shop I used but it's down south and I live Manchester so Internet orders only other than that it's order from America
Buds
jim76
08-11-2009, 05:30 PM
the original xxx4 was plastic but i think most of the plastic parts were phased when the graphite edition was released. Losi Graphite moulded parts are very expensive, one reason i got rid of my old xxx4.
super__dan
08-11-2009, 08:20 PM
DMS racing is the best place to get Losi (and most other things in the UK), usually get things the next day. I can't help you out with any bits I've long since sold mine. Gary I do agree though, in air handling was really good, probably because the chassis is so large and flat.
http://www.dms-racing.com/
Spencer Mulcahy
08-11-2009, 08:52 PM
Try Pete at sunday best he has all sorts of parts for older cars.
Try Pete at sunday best he has all sorts of parts for older cars.
Not alot for the xxx4 tough as they were never huge at york.
stampede vxlboy
09-11-2009, 03:09 PM
hi does anybody know if you can fit a diffrent chassis to xxx4 and put the xx4 chassis on instead
mw02veg
09-11-2009, 03:10 PM
stampy u are ACE :lol:
bigred5765
09-11-2009, 03:14 PM
simple answer is NO
rcracer
09-11-2009, 03:33 PM
hi does anybody know if you can fit a diffrent chassis to xxx4 and put the xx4 chassis on instead
Why would you want too ?
stampede vxlboy
09-11-2009, 03:49 PM
i got told there only good on a indoor tracks and not good at all on a outside track that why people telling me there no good on any track s outside
mw02veg
09-11-2009, 03:55 PM
u should of asked b4 u bought the car :lol:
DanB4
09-11-2009, 03:56 PM
Saying the car is 'not good' outdoors is relative, how is it set-up, who are you competing against and what is your ability like?
I have won numerous races outdoors at my local club with a XXX-4 and indoors too! :)
But give Ellis Stafford a XXX-4 and you race a XX-4 and I wonder who'd win outdoors?? Know what I mean?
The XX-4 and XXX-4 are totally different cars it's like wanting to put a Ferrari bumper onto a ford fiesta, can't be done - well I'll rephrase that, there's no point in doing it (incase there's any boy racers on here!;))
Dan
jhammond
09-11-2009, 04:06 PM
Stampy...
For starters you said you didn't like belt-drive. Now you want to swap to a XX-4 chassis?
You do know you CANNOT run stick-lipos in a Losi XX-4?
DanB4
09-11-2009, 04:10 PM
Stampy...
For starters you said you didn't like belt-drive. Now you want to swap to a XX-4 chassis?
You do know you CANNOT run stick-lipos in a Losi XX-4?
Just for clarity, he is getting a XXX-4 roller not a XX-4 in any way shape or form - I know because I am the guy he has bought it from ;)
If he wants to get a dremel/hacksaw out and try to fit a XX-4 chassis then I wish him the best of luck but that'll fit better into the 'I made this' section of oOple :)
mikeyscott
09-11-2009, 04:14 PM
Stampy..
Seriously if you have ordered the XXX4 stick with it for a season at least. Learn how to race etc. Beginners regardless what car they are running (b44, XX4, XXX4 etc.) still have to learn the ropes.
Download the manual from the Team Losi site and read it. Then read it again. Then when you get the car read it again with the car in front of you.
Get the things you need for this car, i.e. ESC, radio gear, batteries and the motor. Build it SLOWLY taking your time.
Whatever YOU do STICK with this car. The best way to get the best out of a car is to stick with it and not chop and change!
DO NOT customise bits and mix bits from other cars. Whilst you are learning about this car keep it 100% original (obviously geniune hop ups etc..)
Then this is the most important step. Take it to a track near you, listen, learn, race and enjoy. Obviously you'll break something so that'll fit somewhere between the race and enjoy bit...
jhammond
09-11-2009, 04:18 PM
I was aware Stampy was purchasing a Losi xxx-4; and I believe that it will be more than enough to keep Stampy occupied.
I just can't understand why Stampy has a need to purchase car after car, and part after part... Rather than just settling down with one car and learning it. (Set-up, gearing, etc.)
I just become baffled by him.
Julius.
super__dan
09-11-2009, 04:28 PM
Just get it and run it standard for goodness sake
stampede vxlboy
09-11-2009, 04:52 PM
thanks guys i just been looking on goole and they all say its a dam good car and it was jimmy 76 that said they cost loads to fix etc and they was crap outside not me i have been looking on youtube and the speed of them and the jumps they take they look strong as hell . i have done my research on the car and i cannot wait to get it only issue is the shock towers and front gearbox housing and rear housing . does and know were you can get the titaniun rear arm holders . i have been watch loads of video on youtube and it say that there 1 of the best car out there same as xx4
mikeyscott
09-11-2009, 04:58 PM
It'll be good enough for you to go racing.
bodgit
09-11-2009, 04:59 PM
Stampy take the advice given just a few posts back. Run the car as it is for a while before you go spending money on hop ups.. Find out by experiencing the car youself first not by what is on you tube.
stampede vxlboy
09-11-2009, 05:08 PM
thanks will do i have just got a 5.5turn motor to go init cant wait to try it i will tell you know how it runs etc i phone modelsports they said its a dam good car for racing
jhammond
09-11-2009, 05:14 PM
A 5.5t?
I thought you had purchased a 6.5/7.5t Speed passion motor?
And what's happened to the HPI Cyber 10b buggy you bought (didn't you buy two of them?), are you now going to race the Losi instead? :eh?:
jameswilkinson7
09-11-2009, 05:23 PM
I would start with a tame motor... 5.5 is a little fast!
stampede vxlboy
09-11-2009, 05:49 PM
And what's happened to the HPI Cyber 10b buggy you bought (didn't you buy two of them?), are you now going to race the Losi instead? :eh?: they guy just p----- me about with the hpi mate and yes i got a 5.5 6.5 7.5 and 8,5 2x9t and 10 turner
You've got a big selection of motors to choose from; if you haven't already found it here's a link for Losi spares ---> http://www.modelsinmotion.co.uk/sparescategory.asp?catcode=664&tamiya=664
stampede vxlboy
09-11-2009, 05:59 PM
thanks mate i have tryed look found the manual that it and some bits and bats on ebay but that it for parts etc
jameswilkinson7
09-11-2009, 06:00 PM
If I were you I would start with the 8.5 until you get used to it:thumbsup:
jhammond
09-11-2009, 06:18 PM
Yes... Well said.
Start with a tame motor Stampy.
You may have an inclination towards whacking the fastest motor possible in all of your previous cars, but you're much better starting with a 8.5t and becoming much more consistent.
At the end of the day, it's no good having a really fast car if you can't drive it properly- especially when racing. When your lap times are consistently quick (consistent is quite a broad term) for a few weeks, that is the time to consider a more powerful motor.
Rather than trying to speed up and down straights outside your residence, why not get a few cones or markers and try to make a rough circuit? Or, ultimately, if possible, try to get down to a local track to race.
Julius.
jim76
09-11-2009, 07:05 PM
save your breath Julius. He will just go out and buy a 2.5 touring motor and then come on here moaning that is trashed his car transmission and blew his speedo.
To be honest Stampy i've had enough. I tried to give you a second chance and give you the best advice i have to get you the right 4wd and point you in the right direction, but then you go and throw it back in my face and go buy a xxx4 after point blank refusing to look at belt cars!
Then you send me 5000 PM's about is it any good, are spares cheap, did you get a good deal blah blah blah. I reply, give you my opinion based on running one for over 2 years. Then you have the cheek to publicly criticise my advice and opinions on here!
Indoors it is great, and still one of the best. But outdoors at the time it struggled, and now against the latest cars it will struggle even more.
And spares for it are fairly high. Front graphite wishbones are £12. B44 front wishbones are £5.50
You said money was a problem so you went for the cheaper xxx4, even though it was only £25 less than a decent second hand B44. As i said, you should have waited an extra month and saved up the extra as it would serve you better in the long run. Alternatively, sort out a paypal account so that you can actually pay people on here for goods instead of messing around with postal orders. Then you can list all of your trucks and 11v lipos on ebay where people may actually be interested in them, and put the money into your buggies.
What you don;t do is go off and make an impulse buy, then ask loads of questions about the car because you have no f&*%ing idea what you have bought. Then moan at people if the answers they give aren't what you want to hear!
Good luck with your racing/bashing/trashing. Don't bother to PM again EVER as i'm sick of trying to help someone who deliberately ignores everything people tell him. I have far more enjoyable things to do with mine time, like pull my teeth out.
mw02veg
09-11-2009, 07:15 PM
now breath :lol:
jim76
09-11-2009, 07:22 PM
sorry Grant, needed to vent after all the shit he has Pm'd me!
MALLET
09-11-2009, 07:26 PM
HERE HERE Jim well said that man :thumbsup:
jhammond
09-11-2009, 07:28 PM
Ahhh...
Don't worry... I honestly lost all patience months ago with the chap...
But I pity the guy.
I just can't imagine how fickle he must be with other things?
mikeyscott
09-11-2009, 07:30 PM
Stampy.
Get yourself a paypal account makes buying and selling so much easier.
Start with a 8.5! I run a 7.5 in my Cat and it's plenty quick enough. Over a race distance I'm up with the people running 5.5 motors. DO NOT and I'll say it again DO NOT run anything lower than a 8.5, we have a chap at our club who runs a hot motor in his B4 and 3 months on he still can't drive.
Get your XXX4 and STICK with it. I think a lot of people don't want to see another question on what should I buy. You've made your choice, get it built, set-up and race it - END OF!
Do not have any crazy ideas such as "does a B4 slipper fit". Stick with the car as it's mean't to be built!
Racing isn't about the latest kit, (I run a 15 year old XX) it's about having fun and getting competitive. All of which takes TIME. Once I'm more competitive I'm looking forward to going other clubs.
Remember if you ask for someone's advice take it by all means, but don't critcise the advice.
Northy
09-11-2009, 07:32 PM
I totally LOVED reading that Jim, nice one :thumbsup:
G
jim76
09-11-2009, 07:41 PM
i aim to please G! just never figured out how to please Stampy! oo err!
But then again, i don't think anyone ever will! lol
mw02veg
09-11-2009, 07:52 PM
u have nothing to appologise for jim! u by far have shown the most patience wit him im suprised u lasted this long! i apllauded ya and u have every right to vent ur right enough is enough
stampede vxlboy
09-11-2009, 08:24 PM
jimmy the price of the batterys for 1 for the b44 are too much and plus all the gear i need your talking over £500 for 1 car and racing not that inportant to me . to make it on a track for the first time and smash it up like people was doing last time i went racing people was trying to smash my car up leaving me a big bill for 2 car and people are not made of money but you must be mate
mikeyscott
09-11-2009, 08:35 PM
I doubt anyone goes racing to smash someone else's car up. Come on we all know how much it costs to go racing.
Get a nice slow motor in the XXX4 and then get round the track.
Many years ago I one the junior indoor championship with a 540 motor in my Procat - How because I could control it and then focus on the racing lines
stampede vxlboy
09-11-2009, 08:44 PM
know i mean they was just smashing into my car the wing was snap in2 and the front arm was snaped of with people jumping the cars and landing on top of my cars . it was just like people was hounding my cars plus i came 5 in the final and i was using a 8.5t and 9t
jhammond
09-11-2009, 08:49 PM
I'm pretty sure there was no malice in it Stampy!
An 8.5t sounds pretty perfect to start with!
You'll be fine with the Losi xxx-4.
stampede vxlboy
09-11-2009, 09:04 PM
i can only use the 5.5 .6,5t for racing as all the other motor are sensorless mate and i cannot use them i wish i could
mikeyscott
09-11-2009, 09:19 PM
i can only use the 5.5 .6,5t for racing as all the other motor are sensorless mate and i cannot use them i wish i could
Sell both and get an 8.5?
stampede vxlboy
09-11-2009, 09:30 PM
i have only just got it cost £70 for speed passion and i will not sell it for any less as it new never used it
mikeyscott
09-11-2009, 09:32 PM
i have only just got it cost £70 for speed passion and i will not sell it for any less as it new never used it
Is that a V3 motor?
What ESC and radio have you got?
Can you decrease the maxium throttle on either?
stampede vxlboy
09-11-2009, 09:46 PM
acoms 2.4ghz and still wait to get a esc but need a second hand 1 as xmas is here soon what a 4600kv motor in turns
jameswilkinson7
09-11-2009, 09:48 PM
Simon... No one was trying to smash your car up... You kept crashing it yourself! You came last because your car was too fast for you to drive! Sorry if it sounds harsh, but thats the top and bottom of it! I watched all your races and don't remember anyone "picking on you":thumbdown:
stampede vxlboy
09-11-2009, 09:51 PM
i did no find it funny when people car was just hit them for fun and how did i come last 5 place you said first time i did well ?:confused:
jameswilkinson7
09-11-2009, 09:54 PM
i did no find it funny when people car was just hit them for fun and how did i come last 5 place you said first time i did well ?:confused:
You did OK... But you need to slow it down and get round the track.... Hare and the tortoise!:woot:
stampede vxlboy
09-11-2009, 09:57 PM
haha :lol:
jameswilkinson7
09-11-2009, 10:00 PM
i did no find it funny when people car was just hit them for fun and how did i come last 5 place you said first time i did well ?:confused:
5th place was last in that final???? And as I said no one was smashing cars for fun:confused:
jhammond
09-11-2009, 10:06 PM
acoms 2.4ghz and still wait to get a esc but need a second hand 1 as xmas is here soon what a 4600kv motor in turns
Right... So, you actually don't have a Speedpassion motor and ESC?
:bored:
mikeyscott
09-11-2009, 10:09 PM
Indeed :mad:
What do you have and please be straight with us and to the point.
Not planning, not waiting for. Tell us what you have.......
know i mean they was just smashing into my car the wing was snap in2 and the front arm was snaped of with people jumping the cars and landing on top of my cars . it was just like people was hounding my cars
When are you going to stop talking such complete bolox?! I was there, James was there, I'm pretty sure Steve and Nick were there, and I'm 100% sure none of us saw any kind of bullying, harrasment, unfair driving or any discrimination of any kind. Why are you constantly trying to play the sympathy card? You slate the club, you slate the drivers, you wouldn't come to the the race meetings, then bitch when we stopped running for the winter. I canot see what your underlying problem is. You want advice that you refuse to take. WE're trying to HELP you. Either be helped or stop asking for it.
stampede vxlboy
09-11-2009, 10:57 PM
Right... So, you actually don't have a Speedpassion motor and ESC?
:bored: yes i have got a speed passion motor and nosram motor but i have not got a esc yet i have got the cash for a second hand 1 but cannot afford a new1
Si Coe
09-11-2009, 10:57 PM
Aren't SpeedPassions sensored/sensorless? I.e. you can run both types with them. Which means you can use the 8.5t to start with, and upgrade later on as you get better. Which would work quite nicely as the extra smoothness of going sensored would counteract some of the extra power of the hotter motor.
If you are worried about getting smashed up bring one of your trucks to a Bury indoors meet. In the truck class its total carnage at times but everyone just laughs and carries on!
Si Coe
09-11-2009, 10:59 PM
You can use sensored motors with sensorless escs. They won't be as smooth as motors built for sensorless use but they will work. Which means your Mamba can run both those motors.
stampede vxlboy
09-11-2009, 11:18 PM
you will see me there soon just wait for a test date for my driving test.
my vxl esc run sensorless and sensored
mikeyscott
10-11-2009, 08:36 AM
you will see me there soon just wait for a test date for my driving test.
my vxl esc run sensorless and sensored
Are we talking about proper cars here re the test?
bodgit
10-11-2009, 08:56 AM
Are we talking about proper cars here re the test?
now there,s a whole load of new questions :cry:
c0sie
10-11-2009, 08:58 AM
You ever heard of MSUK Stampy? They'd love you :)
stampede vxlboy
10-11-2009, 07:08 PM
Are we talking about proper cars here re the test? yes my car test for me to drive to track etc and work
mw02veg
10-11-2009, 07:15 PM
howd the therory part of the exam go for ya???????????????????
stampede vxlboy
10-11-2009, 07:27 PM
first time past
Brodieman
10-11-2009, 07:28 PM
This thread is quite amusing.
Stampy stick with it, the xxx4 is a very good car although it's not the BEST car for rough tracks it is still highly competitive. When I first got my XXX4G+ with a Novak GTB, Velociti 6.5 it was a lot of car to handle and crashes/breaks are going to happen, it's part of racing. There has to be weak points on the car or else you will break chassis, on the XXX4 the week points are the shock towers and the pivot blocks/arm braces. Don't bother with getting aluminum braces or pivot blocks, you want them to break and not your chassis. Double up on the front shock towers and get longer screws with washers and go right through the bulkhead then bolt it together, don't worry about the rear tower. Google search this "how to bullet proof your xxx4" it has some great tips on making your car much stronger but wait until your driving skills are good enough as again you want certain parts to be weak points. If you can find them, the older plastic front diff covers and arms are much more forgiving. Make sure you build the diffs properly and break them in as mentioned in the manual. Also make sure your slipper is very tight if you are running a very fast motor. I almost 'lock' the slipper. If you 'glaze' your slipper pads/pucks (can happen very quickly if the slipper is too loose) your slipper won't work properly, a quick fix is to sand the glaze of the 'pucks'. Another suggestion would be to turn down the throttle profile on your transmitter if you can, or on your esc if you can. Learn to drive the car well before you start driving fast. What else?? get some shrink tubing and cover the dogbone where the CVD pin goes through (you might have the newer version with LCD's) I had issues with the slipper clutch flange rubbing on the belt tensioner arm but I realized my slipper was too loose so tightening it up solved that problem. Keep at it Stampy. The XXX4 is raced much more in North America than in Europe so you might want to check out www.rctech.net as there is a ton of info on the xxx4.
mw02veg
10-11-2009, 07:28 PM
shocker :blush:
stampede vxlboy
10-11-2009, 07:54 PM
thanks mate
stampede vxlboy
11-11-2009, 05:28 PM
can anybody tell me what size pinion gear in need for a 4600kv for my xxx4
raine
11-11-2009, 05:46 PM
always the same question , google on xxx4 setups , search a bit on petitrc , stampede lazyboy
stampede vxlboy
11-11-2009, 05:56 PM
i have look but it for brushed motor mate not brushless motor :p:p
c0sie
11-11-2009, 06:08 PM
Just pick a pinion, any pinion between say 18 and 23 (for reference I went onto a random number generator just for you and it told me to use 22).
Stick a 22 tooth pinion on it and mesh it up.
Get to your local club early, help set the track up, smile, sit down.
Get your car out in practise and see if it revs out about 3/4 of the main down the main straight.
If it does, result!
If not, gear it up or down depending on how it feels.
If you have problems ask a club member, remember to say please and thank you.
Sit down again.
Remember, no one at the club is deliberately trying to break your car etc etc (just before you come back here saying so).
Help pack up, say thankyou and good bye to everyone.
Go home, your home no one elses.
Take your meds.
Let us know how it went.
MALLET
11-11-2009, 06:26 PM
And don't collect the £200.....:woot::woot::woot:
stampede vxlboy
11-11-2009, 06:32 PM
funny lol
jim76
11-11-2009, 08:26 PM
actually i think he was serious stampy. how do you think we found out the correct ratios?
We TRIED them and experimented until we found the ones that work best. Instead of being lazy and asking for everything. Next you'll be asking someone to drive it for you
stampede vxlboy
11-11-2009, 09:26 PM
no thanks jimmy i will drive it myself thanks just sort it out
Darren Boyle
11-11-2009, 10:58 PM
Just pick a pinion, any pinion between say 18 and 23 (for reference I went onto a random number generator just for you and it told me to use 22).
Stick a 22 tooth pinion on it and mesh it up.
Get to your local club early, help set the track up, smile, sit down.
Get your car out in practise and see if it revs out about 3/4 of the main down the main straight.
If it does, result!
If not, gear it up or down depending on how it feels.
If you have problems ask a club member, remember to say please and thank you.
Sit down again.
Remember, no one at the club is deliberately trying to break your car etc etc (just before you come back here saying so).
Help pack up, say thankyou and good bye to everyone.
Go home, your home no one elses.
Take your meds.
Let us know how it went.
Cris you must be bored to type that lot :D (lets just hope this sound advice is not ignored this time)
stampede vxlboy
11-11-2009, 11:24 PM
no its not but trying to mesh the pinion gear to spur gear is a nightmare
jim76
11-11-2009, 11:55 PM
ha ha ha ha!!
should have looked at one before buying then shouldn't you!!!
there is an easy way, but i'm not going to tell you!
stampede vxlboy
11-11-2009, 11:59 PM
ok thanks jimmy i wanted to get it ready for the weekend for racing at batley but iwill have to miss out again
jim76
12-11-2009, 12:03 AM
oh well, never mind.
you could always try reading the manual!
or, i have a cunning plan. take it to the club and ask one of the regulars to have a look.
D'oh!!!! i gave him useful advice again!! Lucky for me you won't follow it
PaulRotheram
12-11-2009, 12:03 AM
Just because you cant get it meshed? even im getting bored of this crap now...
stampede vxlboy
12-11-2009, 12:05 AM
jimmy everything you told me i did to the b4 and everything work right thanks to you thanks anyway
stampede vxlboy
12-11-2009, 12:07 AM
its ok guys i will just take to the shop then thanks anyway
jim76
12-11-2009, 12:07 AM
what about the part about using it and racing it, not selling it for another car which you will complain about 3 hours later?
actually, don't answer, i'm off to bed
jim76
12-11-2009, 12:09 AM
double post
stampede vxlboy
12-11-2009, 12:10 AM
i wanted to race it but get it running before the weekend but i will have to leave racing out till the car is ready
When I got my B4 I got it on the Wed Night, built it and painted the shell on friday, shake down Saturday night and Raced it in the Supercup on Sunday, and won my final. I'd not owned or run a B4 before then so it was all guess work. Just put the time in and read up on things before asking so many questions ;).
DanB4
12-11-2009, 12:33 AM
Is meshing pinion to spur not one of the easiest things to do on an rc car? Or am I missing something?? I think it's easier than bolting on wheels! Unless he is referring to the cam method of meshing on the losi.....which isn't exactly rocket science....
ashleyb4
12-11-2009, 12:45 AM
the xxx4 has a similar meshing procedure to the xx4 its one of the eaiest cars in the world to mesh.
A
DanB4
12-11-2009, 12:49 AM
Exactly! How on earth can it be misunderstood??
steelie600
12-11-2009, 01:18 AM
When I got my B4 I got it on the Wed Night, built it and painted the shell on friday, shake down Saturday night and Raced it in the Supercup on Sunday, and won my final. I'd not owned or run a B4 before then so it was all guess work. Just put the time in and read up on things before asking so many questions ;).
same here, bought a b4 on a weds afternoon, put radio in it and raced weds evening, came 3rd, car too slow but handles well, got xcellorin for car won tonight. total car maintenence next to zero. experience driving a 10th NONE!!! oh and my meshing was spot on stampy mark will tell ya mine was the quietest car there tonight
jameswilkinson7
12-11-2009, 07:06 AM
same here, bought a b4 on a weds afternoon, put radio in it and raced weds evening, came 3rd, car too slow but handles well, got xcellorin for car won tonight. total car maintenence next to zero. experience driving a 10th NONE!!! oh and my meshing was spot on stampy mark will tell ya mine was the quietest car there tonight
Ahh, I thought that was you Kev... Good nights racing that. Those dirt hawgs are definatly as good as mini pins when you get the set up right.... My motor was meshed OK too! My servo seems to have un meshed its self though:cry:
stampede vxlboy
12-11-2009, 10:28 AM
the rotor gone in the motor and thanks for all the p--- taker out there
My servo seems to have un meshed its self though:cry:
Thats what happens when you use servos you found in a skip ;)
stampede vxlboy
12-11-2009, 11:06 AM
get a grip of yourself its 4months old mamba castle and i dont get stuff out of skips like a tramp and for saying i should think of a diffrent hobby put it this way i would not waste my time racing. if this is what it is like
get a grip of yourself its 4months old mamba castle
:eh?:
MRD's comment was directed at jameswilkinson7 not you!
get a grip of yourself its 4months old mamba castle and i dont get stuff out of skips like a tramp and for saying i should think of a diffrent hobby put it this way i would not waste my time racing. if this is what it is like
Read the post before you start mouthing off, Its nothing to do with you. This is why people always have a go at you.
jameswilkinson7
12-11-2009, 12:24 PM
Thats what happens when you use servos you found in a skip ;)
get a grip of yourself its 4months old mamba castle and i dont get stuff out of skips like a tramp and for saying i should think of a diffrent hobby put it this way i would not waste my time racing. if this is what it is like
Stampys saying I'm like a tramp for getting stuff out of skips... Hes bullying me:cry:
Stampys saying I'm like a tramp for getting stuff out of skips... Hes bullying me:cry:
About time...:D
bigred5765
12-11-2009, 02:25 PM
get a grip of yourself its 4months old mamba castle and i don't get stuff out of skips like a tramp and for saying i should think of a diffrent hobby put it this way i would not waste my time racing. if this is what it is like
thats the point, it isn't like this at racing people are friendly and helpfully thats why you have been asked/told/recommended to get to a meeting and talk to people,
raine
12-11-2009, 02:55 PM
/close
stampede vxlboy
12-11-2009, 02:58 PM
close them all plz as it just pure bullying
jimmy
12-11-2009, 03:15 PM
/ignore
dave g
12-11-2009, 03:16 PM
lmao....
carty
12-11-2009, 03:49 PM
his threads make great reading/entertainment:lol:
coolcars782
12-11-2009, 04:19 PM
/ignore
LOL!
/ignore
Now I'm even more curious!
Someone PM me what Jimmy said...!
stampede vxlboy
13-11-2009, 08:39 PM
hi i have meshed it but sounds as smooth as i can get it but when i take it in reverse it make a crunching noise sometimes
plus there only 1 way the plate fit in on to the motor
jim76
13-11-2009, 09:03 PM
take it to the club, let people look at it in their hands, it's the easiest way to diagnose the problem. Not sure you are going to get answers on here any more.
jameswilkinson7
13-11-2009, 09:07 PM
take it to the club, let people look at it in their hands, it's the easiest way to diagnose the problem. Not sure you are going to get answers on here any more.
Thats the best way Simon... Bring it along next friday:thumbsup:
damo666
13-11-2009, 09:17 PM
Are they designed to be able to go in reverse with the belt setup ?
stampede vxlboy
13-11-2009, 09:41 PM
i dont know that what i need to find out coz it makes a crunching noise when i put it in reverse
Does it have a one-way fitted?
rcracer
13-11-2009, 09:49 PM
i dont know that what i need to find out coz it makes a crunching noise when i put it in reverse
Disable the reverse on the esc.
stampede vxlboy
13-11-2009, 09:49 PM
dont think so as it go backward but sometimes make a noise some time when you put a bit more power on
stampede vxlboy
13-11-2009, 09:52 PM
Disable the reverse on the esc. are they not ment to go backwards then ? thanks and what the easies way to set the spur to the pinion gear that all i need to do
jimmiprice
13-11-2009, 10:01 PM
i dont know that what i need to find out coz it makes a crunching noise when i put it in reverse
Dont go in reverse its a competition car for racing not for being nobbed about with in reverse around the street. The way the tensioner works means it only works correctly in one direction and that is forwards.
And please stop PMing me asking how to mesh your motor, telling me how good your xxx-4 is, and how i should buy it for £110.
Why not go and buy a HPI Savage (Or RC8T its the same) and go bashing instead of trying to get race cars to be bash proof ??
Jimmi.............
Huckster522
13-11-2009, 10:06 PM
Does it have a one-way fitted?
You might need to ask the cars original owner that question DanB4, as i'm sure after reading hundreds upon hundreds of posts by stampede vxlboy that he wouldn't know the difference between a one way and standard diff.
Also stampede vxlboy the xxx4 is an ok car i have been racing mine since i started in this hobby in march of this year, i have spent many a sunday afternoon talking to many of the more experienced drivers at my local club for tips on setup and driving.
This is the first car i have run since 1980ish and is so easy to work on it is untrue, the pinion and gear mesh is so simple it's just a case of moving the motor plate round so the two gears meet but not touch.
there should be a small amount of backlash (small gap with movement between teeth).
Go to race meet and have fun.
stampede vxlboy
13-11-2009, 10:09 PM
it was for racing i was just setting it up that all i will be using it next year for racing . my cat 2000 was belt and when i raced when i was a kids that was ok going backwards thanks anyway i will reset it know just need to sort the spur to mesh it right thanks
chris68nufc
13-11-2009, 10:16 PM
Stampys not real.:lol:
stampede vxlboy
13-11-2009, 10:20 PM
what?????????
Huckster522
13-11-2009, 10:28 PM
Stampys not real.:lol:
You might be right, i have spent the last few hours this evening and few hours last night going through the help stampy threads.
Stampy if you put as much effort into learning about your car as you do about asking questions about it, you would have a lot more self satisfaction when you put it on the track and race it.
I dont want to appear nasty but you do seem to ask the same questions over and over again. I learnt more about my xxx4 by downloading the manual from the losi website and then ripping the car down to tiny bits then building it back up again.
remember this is a fun hobby it should not be stressfull!!!
chris68nufc
13-11-2009, 10:33 PM
Im not part of a hate mob either but hes doing my nut in. I still cant believe hes real, but then again, i dont think anybody could make the stuff up he comes out with:cry:
stampede vxlboy
13-11-2009, 10:36 PM
now now boys chillout
chris68nufc
13-11-2009, 10:46 PM
Thanks Ben, I knew i was right. Lee Farrer in disguise!!
stampede vxlboy
13-11-2009, 10:54 PM
lee farrer the person that slaged my wife and my kids off for nothing at all:thumbdown::thumbdown:
dodgydiy
13-11-2009, 11:13 PM
am i correct in saying the xxx4 is a single belt car?? i remember on the old pb single belt cars if you tried to use reverse the belt slipped due to the position of the belt tensioner being designed to work properly for power transmitted in the forward direction only. if its slipping going forward at all, tighten the belt a little, only a fraction at a time though. you will just have to put up with belt slipping in reverse, no race cars are designed for reverse as its not normally permitted at race meetings
stampede vxlboy
13-11-2009, 11:16 PM
there 3 belts i think but thanks for helping me out mate
DanB4
13-11-2009, 11:18 PM
Dont go in reverse its a competition car for racing not for being nobbed about with in reverse around the street. The way the tensioner works means it only works correctly in one direction and that is forwards.
And please stop PMing me asking how to mesh your motor, telling me how good your xxx-4 is, and how i should buy it for £110.
Why not go and buy a HPI Savage (Or RC8T its the same) and go bashing instead of trying to get race cars to be bash proof ??
Jimmi.............
I never ran it in reverse, fwd/brake only with no issues - the car was one of the smoothest belt drive cars I've ever owned.
It has 2 diffs and no one-way anywhere in it's drivetrain.
Dan :cool:
DanB4
13-11-2009, 11:18 PM
there 3 belts i think but thanks for helping me out mate
1 belt stampy, that's one single drivebelt, not sure where you are seeing 3......
It has one belt stampy kit standard. Now it's been used in anger in reverse it is likely to have 3 belts. :eh?:
Huckster522
13-11-2009, 11:20 PM
there 3 belts i think but thanks for helping me out mate
Only 1 belt in the xxx4 (3 in the xx4)
also make sure you are using the yellow hi-tension belt will last much longer than the old green ones
DanB4
13-11-2009, 11:24 PM
Only 1 belt in the xxx4 (3 in the xx4)
also make sure you are using the yellow hi-tension belt will last much longer than the old green ones
It has the green one fitted - if it isn't snapped into 3 pieces now....
Huckster522
13-11-2009, 11:31 PM
It has the green one fitted - if it isn't snapped into 3 pieces now....
perhaps it might help if it has, as it would mean some time would have to be put into working on the car and getting to learn how it goes together.
always a good thing to know how to fix them, coz 15mins between races goes really quick when you have to replace a belt.
Huckster522
13-11-2009, 11:36 PM
I never ran it in reverse, fwd/brake only with no issues - the car was one of the smoothest belt drive cars I've ever owned.
It has 2 diffs and no one-way anywhere in it's drivetrain.
Dan :cool:
I know wht you mean Dan, Mine runs smooth as silk and quiet to boot, the only time i get a bit of belt jump is when i hit full brakes from top end.
I've never run reverse as its not the done thing to reverse into the path of an F1 who's lapping you for the 3rd time.
DanB4
13-11-2009, 11:45 PM
and there's nothing more annoying than running like a madman to marshall a car only for it to reverse then shoot off on it's merry way just as you reach it in the middle of the track....I'm sure we've all experienced it!
I had reverse ages ago but it was on a 2 belt car - the Losi XXX-S/XXX-4 single belt design is very innovative but as said previously is designed so the belt is under tension when going forwards - in reverse it gets slack and the tensioning pulley spits the dummy.
stampede vxlboy
14-11-2009, 12:20 AM
no the belts are fine mate shaft on my motor are too long for the car
jim76
14-11-2009, 12:24 AM
you mean Belt - singular!
You obviously did some quality research this time.
what motor?
stampede vxlboy
14-11-2009, 12:37 AM
orion motor jimmy and orion vortex esc motor 6.5 i think cant rember as i have got loads of them
Funkymojo
14-11-2009, 01:06 AM
orion motor jimmy and orion vortex esc motor 6.5 i think cant rember as i have got loads of them
You're selling your XXX4? You're a classic...
Brodieman
14-11-2009, 04:22 AM
:lol: I can't believe how hilarious this thread is hahaha
DanB4
14-11-2009, 07:29 AM
orion motor jimmy and orion vortex esc motor 6.5 i think cant rember as i have got loads of them
You just PM'd me saying it was a mamba motor????
jhammond
14-11-2009, 07:31 AM
You're selling your XXX4? You're a classic...
I don't think it would be a total surprise. :bored:
Julius.
jhammond
14-11-2009, 07:36 AM
I don't think it would be a total surprise. :bored:
Julius.
Oh dear... You were being serious.
http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34225
I have lost faith in mankind.
DanB4
14-11-2009, 07:52 AM
Those are my pics taken on my bed with my servo installed!
Maybe I should buy it back?? How does £856.79 sound Stampy? Fair offer? :o
How much is it worth guys? I know how much I sold it for anyway!
Talk about perseverence.......or not! He didn't even try it! The motor installation must have been too much to handle perhaps.
jhammond
14-11-2009, 08:01 AM
They're your photographs!
The cheek. I presume he doesn't actually have your servo? And one can probably conclude that it's probably wrecked now.
I bet he's asked people to contact him via PM so that he can actually ask for silly money! Again; criminal. And to think he'll probably now litter the Losi section of the forum proclaiming his advice is correct and creditable.
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.
Julius.
DanB4
14-11-2009, 08:08 AM
They're your photographs!
The cheek. I presume he doesn't actually have your servo? And one can probably conclude that it's probably wrecked now.
I bet he's asked people to contact him via PM so that he can actually ask for silly money! Again; criminal. And to think he'll probably now litter the Losi section of the forum proclaiming his advice is correct and creditable.
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.
Julius.
Indeed they are my photographs taken on the bed I am lying in right now with my 6 week old baby lying on my chest (great feeling)! I am on my iPod touch and it sometimes changes my words so apologies for any confusion!
The servo is in my cupboard so no it wouldn't come with that servo I can promise you.
I wonder what it does look like now? Wonder if the teeth on the spur still look like that?!
Oh well maybe he doesn't have/know what a camera is or how to upload pics?? Just to make people aware that the car may well not look like that now!
mambamax
14-11-2009, 09:01 AM
how much did you sell it for dan
DanB4
14-11-2009, 09:15 AM
how much did you sell it for dan
He paid £95 posted, I was quite satisfied with that figure, it also went out with a ton of spares
I can see this becoming yet another Stampy locked thread.....
Aren't you just pulling our chain, come on you've only had it for minutes. People have offered to help if you take it to a club, now you're just giving lots of people ammunition against you if you're being serious about selling it. You don't like the abuse, so why antagonise people. Surely you must have learnt by now!
:wtf:
Dave Dodd
14-11-2009, 10:32 AM
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omg i cant believe this guy.
He paid £95 posted, I was quite satisfied with that figure, it also went out with a ton of spares That was a really good price..
stampede vxlboy
14-11-2009, 10:45 AM
its all running fine but it no longer forsale i tryed my mamba castle motor shaft of the motor was too long . so i tryed my orion vortex and its as smooth as silk
steelie600
14-11-2009, 11:08 AM
Why not go and buy a HPI Savage (Or RC8T its the same)
OIIIIIIII!!!!!!!! Im so gonna have to beat you now Mr Price:p:p
DanB4
14-11-2009, 11:14 AM
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omg i cant believe this guy.
That was a really good price..
I thought so although he keeps messaging me calling me a conman and that I have ripped him off!:o
I'll learn from my mistakes with this one, it was a good car and shame it hasn't gone to a good home. In his defence, at least I received the money!
mambamax
14-11-2009, 11:41 AM
well it not be worth much once he/s finished with it wich is a crying shame
stampede vxlboy
14-11-2009, 11:49 AM
end of danny boy i have got my money back for it anyway i just never like the look of it .its 1 ugly thing :lol::lol:
mikeyscott
14-11-2009, 11:51 AM
end of danny boy i have got my money back for it anyway i just never like the look of it .its 1 ugly thing :lol::lol:
So why did you buy it in the first place?
I've changed cars ONCE this year from a B4 to a XXCR
Cat SX was an extra addition for 4WD.
:eh?:
Go and buy a Mardave - can't go wrong with those. Different class I know..
DanB4
14-11-2009, 11:52 AM
end of danny boy i have got my money back for it anyway i just never like the look of it .its 1 ugly thing :lol::lol:
All the best racing it, I sent you numerous pictures before you bought it so it's strange that you now think it's ugly....never mind, I can't figure you out to be honest, one of life's mystery's!:lol:
I am going out for lunch, go and race the car and enjoy your hobby.
Dan
DanB4
14-11-2009, 11:56 AM
So why did you buy it in the first place?
I've changed cars ONCE this year from a B4 to a XXCR
Cat SX was an extra addition for 4WD.
:eh?:
Give us strength!
We have someone like this at out club up in Scotland, another 'special' racer.....I'll always remember when he was smoking (tobacco or some other substance) whilst he was marshalling for the A final at a big meeting and then when he raced, Andy Moore was marshalling where he crashed and he shouted "Come on marshall for f's sake wake up!".......I nearly wet myself.....all the A finalists have nicknames for him, he is now quite legendary!
Maybe they're brothers? :cry:
Bye!
Funkymojo
14-11-2009, 11:57 AM
end of danny boy i have got my money back for it anyway i just never like the look of it .its 1 ugly thing :lol::lol:
You're a total waste of bandwidth space and time...you're known to toss away your cars in a real quick fashion...so what shall we call you? A Tosser? :lol:
bigchris
14-11-2009, 12:09 PM
just to add Dan in a sound guy whom i have bought rc parts off of before ,plus he organises one of the best RC events in the UK which attracts the top drivers from around the world , i dont imagine Mr VXL boy to have the same reputation...:mad:
Dave Dodd
14-11-2009, 12:13 PM
end of danny boy i have got my money back for it anyway i just never like the look of it .its 1 ugly thing :lol::lol:
http://cdn.content.sweetim.com/sim/cpie/emoticons/00020309.gif (http://www.sweetim.com/s.asp?im=gen&lpver=3&ref=10) for the love of god .... http://cdn.content.sweetim.com/sim/cpie/emoticons/000201ED.gif (http://www.sweetim.com/s.asp?im=gen&lpver=3&ref=10)
jhammond
14-11-2009, 12:16 PM
Stampy... You are a complete prat.
End of.
carty
14-11-2009, 12:16 PM
leave us Mardave owners out of this:lol:
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