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mattym0310
26-04-2007, 06:29 AM
hi, i recently bought a bj4x4 original version. i was just having a think, as i may be swapping shocks from associated to losi on my x6, would this also work on the bj4?? or is it still better with the associated ones??

thanks in advance

Lee
26-04-2007, 09:14 AM
most people tend to use the AE shocks as they are fine, plus there are very few setup sheets out there using losi shocks so you would have to do a lot of work on your own to find a good oil piston/spring combination. Im sure the team will have tried a losi shock at some point but they seem to go with an AE shock and why not, they are great if you build them right.

Chris Doughty
26-04-2007, 09:41 AM
you can buy the S4 towers from Atomic-Carbon to get S4 suspension geometry with Losi shocks.

rich_cree
26-04-2007, 10:09 AM
you can buy the S4 towers from Atomic-Carbon to get S4 suspension geometry with Losi shocks.

Oi, back to your own forum!!

Chris Doughty
26-04-2007, 10:45 AM
Oi, back to your own forum!!

thats racin' talk! :D

I'm just answering a question thats all :p

rich_cree
26-04-2007, 11:22 AM
thats racin' talk! :D

I'm just answering a question thats all :p

Jconcepts towers are of course available for your S4 too ;)

OldTimer
26-04-2007, 11:42 AM
But not of the same low drag design, and not in 4mm CF :D

rich_cree
26-04-2007, 11:45 AM
I can see I'm not going to win this one!!!

PTRU
26-04-2007, 11:52 AM
lol !!!:D

OldTimer
26-04-2007, 11:52 AM
True ;)

dan_kitty
26-04-2007, 01:15 PM
Is there a trick to building associated shocks well, ive built/rebuilt them quite a few times following the manual and they seem fine to me. i guess im just checking im not missing any secret tips which make them even better.
ta

Chris Doughty
26-04-2007, 01:24 PM
I can't remember the web address but 'elvo' has written something up on his car guide website.

MiCk B.
26-04-2007, 02:29 PM
Here it is:

http://users.pandora.be/elvo/12/8/

MiCk B. :-)

dan_kitty
26-04-2007, 03:02 PM
great article cheers guys!
so what does green slime actually do, is it a sealant? never used it before. And do most racers use it on shocks other than assosiated?
ta

Wraggy
26-04-2007, 03:03 PM
its a lubricant not a sealant ...

jimmy
26-04-2007, 03:05 PM
All my cars are built with green slime in the shock seals.

dan_kitty
26-04-2007, 03:14 PM
ah, good show
better get me some green slime then, may give ghost busters a ring:)

mattym0310
26-04-2007, 07:25 PM
i use green slime.
so how much of a difference do these shock towers make?? is it in a good way or does it not make much difference??

Richard Lowe
26-04-2007, 07:41 PM
I can see I'm not going to win this one!!!
It's 2v2 now, grr :D

Tom tried Losi shocks when he was running a BJ4 but they weren't much different to be honest. I seem to remember he started with XX4 springs/oils and gradually changed them to be the same as how we were running the AE shocks at the time.

Northy
26-04-2007, 08:07 PM
There is nothing wrong with the shock bodies if you put the seals in them right.....

Now the rest of the parts..... :rolleyes:

G

Andy Moore
27-04-2007, 12:30 AM
But not of the same low drag design, and not in 4mm CF :D


Our "extra drag" version adds steering at high speed, and weighs less for better acceleration. I guess it depends on what youre looking for. :D

MarkWesterfield
27-04-2007, 02:52 AM
Green slime helps keep the o-rings from absorbing shock oil and swelling.

mattym0310
27-04-2007, 05:52 AM
is the geometry alot different on the two shock towers?

Chris Doughty
27-04-2007, 07:35 AM
3v2 against us now :p hehe, this is getting funny :D

Matty - there is a bit of geometry differance on the front, but the lenght of Losi/AE front shocks are the same.

the rear I don't know how much differance there is, I think quite a lot, the Losi shocks are also a bit longer (uing 1.2 bodies and 1.0 shafts) and they are also layed down more.

to be quite honest we are 'fighting' over something will not instantly make you able to make A finals Losi shocks work well, as do the AE shocks when built as per Elvo's guide.