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woOdy
19-11-2009, 07:19 AM
I am looking to race when not at Bury once a month inside? What is everybody else doing? Dont want to do Worksop so any other places?
mattb
19-11-2009, 05:36 PM
me,shanks,rob m will probably be going to that roundabout race way in between the bury indoors mate its a decent size track but with hardly any grip but i think they are going to clean the floor to get rid of some of the dust for next time its monday nights
rob m
19-11-2009, 06:04 PM
yeah it was ok at roundabout stu,if you come though i have an old mardave mini built up,think you should use that to give other people a chance at winning :p
johnnygibbon
19-11-2009, 06:10 PM
went to ribble vally track last night in blackpool (wed,buggys) its a carpet track good size two small jumps. however they have serious trye issues.brand new carpet is down .you can only use specified tyres. proline dirt hogs. i managed to blag in by doing cutting spikes of bald alresdy tryes and doing borouts on tarmac. borrewed a pair of dirt hogs for first race while my glue dried. awful. i mean really bad.appreciated the loan (thanks ben)but hated the tryes. but if you got compleatly bald tryes you might be ok. really bald no studs at all.no carpet damage allowed. but good track even better with grip. fiver to race. mainly 2wd cars. good for smashing cars if your as rough as me to. marshall has a padded wall to hide behind.but pillars and allsorts to wreck bits:thumbsup:
johnnygibbon
19-11-2009, 06:16 PM
think they do touring cars and mardaves on other nghts if ya into carpet muching every night of the week
MikePimlott
19-11-2009, 06:32 PM
Southport indoors Stu :thumbsup:
woOdy
19-11-2009, 07:19 PM
Southport indoors Stu :thumbsup:
Why you not booked in for our next meeting? Or you not representing Bury Metro now? LOL:cry:
stuartw
19-11-2009, 07:22 PM
I am looking to race when not at Bury once a month inside? What is everybody else doing? Dont want to do Worksop so any other places?
MAM series at Kiddy, Coventry and Os.
Next round this week at Coventry - www.brca-midwest.co.uk (http://www.brca-midwest.co.uk) :thumbsup:
woOdy
19-11-2009, 07:26 PM
MAM series at Kiddy, Coventry and Os.
Next round this week at Coventry - www.brca-midwest.co.uk (http://www.brca-midwest.co.uk) :thumbsup:
Do you have to book in or turn up? How much is it to race?
steelie600
19-11-2009, 07:35 PM
went to ribble vally track last night in blackpool (wed,buggys) its a carpet track good size two small jumps. however they have serious trye issues.brand new carpet is down .you can only use specified tyres. proline dirt hogs. i managed to blag in by doing cutting spikes of bald alresdy tryes and doing borouts on tarmac. borrewed a pair of dirt hogs for first race while my glue dried. awful. i mean really bad.appreciated the loan (thanks ben)but hated the tryes. but if you got compleatly bald tryes you might be ok. really bald no studs at all.no carpet damage allowed. but good track even better with grip. fiver to race. mainly 2wd cars. good for smashing cars if your as rough as me to. marshall has a padded wall to hide behind.but pillars and allsorts to wreck bits:thumbsup:
Id like to know how you didnt have grip with the dirt hawgs??
I run at Ribble (wasnt there this week as was working) and I personally dont find any issues with them. More grip than you need you just need to condition the tyres properly. If they are that bad why did me and ben both win the 2wd and 4wd respectively week previous, on hawgs when everyone else was running worn spikes??
I understand the need to protect the carpet, it cost a hell of a lot of money and it is to be used for on roads cars aswell as the off roads so compromises had to be made, hence the Dirt Hawgs.
There will be more jumps and obstacles for next week im gonne get jiggy with some plywood over the weekend, and next weds ill see if i can win again with my dirt hawgs!!
T4miy4 Guy
19-11-2009, 08:59 PM
me,shanks,rob m will probably be going to that roundabout race way in between the bury indoors mate its a decent size track but with hardly any grip but i think they are going to clean the floor to get rid of some of the dust for next time its monday nights
no grip is a bloody understatement tbf...
T4miy4 Guy
19-11-2009, 09:03 PM
Id like to know how you didnt have grip with the dirt hawgs??
I run at Ribble (wasnt there this week as was working) and I personally dont find any issues with them. More grip than you need you just need to condition the tyres properly. If they are that bad why did me and ben both win the 2wd and 4wd respectively week previous, on hawgs when everyone else was running worn spikes??
I understand the need to protect the carpet, it cost a hell of a lot of money and it is to be used for on roads cars aswell as the off roads so compromises had to be made, hence the Dirt Hawgs.
There will be more jumps and obstacles for next week im gonne get jiggy with some plywood over the weekend, and next weds ill see if i can win again with my dirt hawgs!!
i`m gonna get some of those for bury indoors as they are awesome tyres
edited ordered!
Jonesy
19-11-2009, 10:45 PM
Id like to know how you didnt have grip with the dirt hawgs??
I run at Ribble (wasnt there this week as was working) and I personally dont find any issues with them. More grip than you need you just need to condition the tyres properly. If they are that bad why did me and ben both win the 2wd and 4wd respectively week previous, on hawgs when everyone else was running worn spikes??
I understand the need to protect the carpet, it cost a hell of a lot of money and it is to be used for on roads cars aswell as the off roads so compromises had to be made, hence the Dirt Hawgs.
There will be more jumps and obstacles for next week im gonne get jiggy with some plywood over the weekend, and next weds ill see if i can win again with my dirt hawgs!!
That's probably the issue then. Having to 'condition' tyres instead of just turning up and race is enough to put people off!!
I can understand your concerns with Carpet, we have no problem at Oswestry in relation to tyres or carpet and I use Mini-Pins
Si Coe
19-11-2009, 11:10 PM
To be honest I'd considered going to Ribble myself but the whole Dirt Hawgs thing put me off. It seems excessive to have to buy a full set of tyres I won't use elsewhere just to run at lone club occasional. At least with Mini Spikes I can use them at virtually any outdoor track, and Mini pins virtually any indoor one, but I can't imagine using Dirt Hawgs anywhere I'm allowed to use Mini pins. They may well work, but I bet they don't work as well as Mini pins.
T4miy4 Guy
19-11-2009, 11:29 PM
To be honest I'd considered going to Ribble myself but the whole Dirt Hawgs thing put me off. It seems excessive to have to buy a full set of tyres I won't use elsewhere just to run at lone club occasional. At least with Mini Spikes I can use them at virtually any outdoor track, and Mini pins virtually any indoor one, but I can't imagine using Dirt Hawgs anywhere I'm allowed to use Mini pins. They may well work, but I bet they don't work as well as Mini pins.
Have you tried the Si, they were my first tyres that came with my Baldre and until now (that steelie reminded me) they have super grip
Andy
Si Coe
19-11-2009, 11:36 PM
Oh I agree they are good all round tyres, but on carpet they can't touch minipins for grip. There is a whole world of fuss in the Touring car world over the TC version of minipins vs more realistic treads like the Dirt Hawgs have (or slicks) - with the general opinion that minipins are sort of 'cheating'.
That said, if Dave can get the dust off I suspect they might work at Denton.
johnnygibbon
20-11-2009, 12:48 AM
.i stand corrected .maybe i just love worn out out dogs. nice to be able to race any day of the week whatever tyres i use.:)
steelie600
20-11-2009, 01:57 AM
they dont work everywhere i tried them at southport indoors and they were lacking feel at the rear even tho the fronts turned in nicely the spikews were better, but even then the carpet at southport has no grip whatsoever!!! Prolly summat to do with it being about 20yrs old or summat like
stuartw
20-11-2009, 10:37 AM
Do you have to book in or turn up? How much is it to race?
MAM series at Kiddy, Coventry and Os.
Next round this week at Coventry - www.brca-midwest.co.uk (http://www.brca-midwest.co.uk) :thumbsup:
It is preferable for you to pre-book but you can book in on the day.
Its £5 to race.
burgie
20-11-2009, 11:05 AM
but even then the carpet at southport has no grip whatsoever!!! Prolly summat to do with it being about 20yrs old or summat like
Well, you can't beat an informed post can you. :thumbdown:
It's a funny thing, you know. If you set your car up right, you have grip. There were plenty of cars their this weekend and last weekend with loads of grip - and that being on the very same carpet that you had no grip on.
Strange, is that.
they dont work everywhere i tried them at southport indoors and they were lacking feel at the rear even tho the fronts turned in nicely the spikews were better, but even then the carpet at southport has no grip whatsoever!!! Prolly summat to do with it being about 20yrs old or summat like
What Spikes/compound/age tires was you using?
njc11
23-11-2009, 02:27 PM
I am looking to race when not at Bury once a month inside? What is everybody else doing? Dont want to do Worksop so any other places?
Broxtowe indoor pal... pleanty of good competition and a well run meeting..
There next meeting is sunday 6th December :)
steelie600
23-11-2009, 02:40 PM
What Spikes/compound/age tires was you using?
Brand new mini spikes, car setup exactly the same as i have it for Ribble indoors where it works. I also race 12th and mardave so im used to carpet.
My comments about the lack of grip at southport may have been slightly out of order, as i didnt have access to any mini pins that day to compare. But my findings were that the dirt hawgs turned in better but there was no rear feel as it were, where as the spikes were more progressive at the rear but wouldnt turn in even after fiddling with toe out etc. nANd my comparison towards the grip was from ribbles old carpet which was fairly grippy on hawgs, to ribbles NEW carpet which is like superglue, to southport where i was slithering and sliding everywhere, and my driving style didnt suddenly change overnight.
So apologies to Southport club for dissing your carpet, i was only pointing out my personal opinions
Brand new mini spikes, car setup exactly the same as i have it for Ribble indoors where it works. I also race 12th and mardave so im used to carpet.
My comments about the lack of grip at southport may have been slightly out of order, as i didnt have access to any mini pins that day to compare. But my findings were that the dirt hawgs turned in better but there was no rear feel as it were, where as the spikes were more progressive at the rear but wouldnt turn in even after fiddling with toe out etc. nANd my comparison towards the grip was from ribbles old carpet which was fairly grippy on hawgs, to ribbles NEW carpet which is like superglue, to southport where i was slithering and sliding everywhere, and my driving style didnt suddenly change overnight.
So apologies to Southport club for dissing your carpet, i was only pointing out my personal opinions
Well, you can't beat an informed post can you. :thumbdown:
It's a funny thing, you know. If you set your car up right, you have grip. There were plenty of cars their this weekend and last weekend with loads of grip - and that being on the very same carpet that you had no grip on.
Strange, is that.
Car set up for one track on one type of carpet and soft sticky tires(hawgs) and maybe treated tires to, verses a club with felt carpet, car set up wrong, and wrong tires. i must agree with Burgie, one informed post that is out of order :thumbdown:
Maybe next time ask anyone of the helpful local members for advise and you might get around the track with grip.
Stu, you and the rest of the Bury lads are welcome on our club and points days:thumbsup:
dbizzle5
24-11-2009, 07:51 PM
Broxtowe indoor pal... pleanty of good competition and a well run meeting..
There next meeting is sunday 6th December :)
Good call!:thumbsup:
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