Ellis Stafford Championship Edition

[YoungChazz]

Advertising deadlines are way too early, so it's out in Racer now even though we're not quite ready. We are rushing to bring you the Ellis Stafford Championship Edition X - 6 Squared before Christmas. Final details are being put together as I write. You may think it's odd, but price is the last thing to be worked out.

This special Kit will have its own label with a photo of Ellis holding his Championship trophies from last year and this. Ellis will autograph the labels!

This Kit will include all of Ellis' special bits, from the E-Speed parts to the RudeBits weight kit Ellis favors. 30 degree caster blocks, a JConcepts front air dam, all Lunsford Titanium ball studs and turnbuckles, Losi gray ball cups, X Factory #2601 front axles, a sway bar kit; I could go on. It's everything Ellis uses.

The instruction manual will include Ellis' set-up of course, but there will be a special addendum written personally by Ellis telling you just where and how he uses each special part. Perhaps you'll laugh at differences between the "American" manual and the "English" addendum.

We will ship these Kits by Express the moment they are ready and hope they are in the stores just before Christmas.

There will be a very limited number of Championship Edition kits, so see your local model shop now to reserve yours and tell the wife not to blow the whole Christmas wad just yet!

[coolcars782]

How much?

[ryan_93]

You may think it's odd, but price is the last thing to be worked out.

they have not worked out a price yet

[coolcars782]

they have not worked out a price yet

Oops, missed that bit

[blitzboy]

wow the big E spec x6 what else could you ask for at this time of the year , nice one chazz ,,,

[Darren Boyle]

We are just waiting for some of the "outside suppliers" to submit the items required for us to finish the kit, until ALL of these parts finally come in and the kits have shipped to us we do not yet have the "exact" price. We have a good idea but until we are 100% sure we will not comment further regards the price. I will point out the obviuos - it is NOT going to be cheap but it will be the closest possible spec to what Ellis himself uses and will of course be cheaper than buuying the parts seperately.

There is only a VERY limited number being made as Chazz has already said above and some of our dealers are starting to take deposits already (although the final price is not yet confirmed)

Rest assured just as soon as we have the full press release ready it will be distrubuted to all of our dealers and indeeed all internet websites and forums including of course Jimmy for offical release on oOPle-land too

The saying goes, if you have to ask then it is probably too expensive....

[c0sie]

what else could you ask for at this time of the year

Snow?

[coolcars782]

Snow?

But its a bit hard to race in the snow :woot:

[blitzboy]

hahahahhahahahahaha lmao yer lots of it too mmm probably got more chance of getting a big e special edition x6 thanks snow mate

[coolcars782]

hahahahhahahahahaha lmao yer lots of it too mmm probably got more chance of getting a big e special edition x6 thanks snow mate

Just remember, "the possibilities are endless" :lol:

[Lee]

A big thumbs up from me :thumbsup:

What a great idea, the mrs can be cooking the turkey while you are building your X6 in the front room watching the queens speech, maybe next year Xfactory will release a DVD with the 4wd so that while you build the 4wd you can watch Ellis on the TV instead of the queen :thumbsup:

[coolcars782]

Maybe Ellis doing the queens speech :)

[GRIFF55]

how ltd is this very ltd edition going to be?

[DCM]

Your a fully paid up member of the X-Factor club, so your in!! lol

[Body Paint]

Maybe Ellis doing the queens speech :)

Are you saying Ellis is a Queen? He will be pleased :lol:

[Northy]

Maybe Ellis doing the queens speech :)

You know, I first read that without the 'speech' bit on the end :woot:

G

[coolcars782]

Are you saying Ellis is a Queen? He will be pleased :lol:

Okay, maybe the next king :lol:

[coolcars782]

You know, I first read that without the 'speech' bit on the end :woot:

G

Argh you put that image in my head :cry:

[GRIFF55]

.......

[Smartalec]

Does it come with Losi shocks? :)

[YoungChazz]

It's still a Conversion Kit, so shocks are not included. Thus, we assume you'll run AE if your are converting a B4, but the choice is yours.

Ellis has said often that the main reason he uses Losi shocks is that he ran for them for years, is very familiar with them, and has zillions of shock parts in his box. So run the shock you have parts for, the ones you know.

Just got the first prototype label from the printer. Dialed...

[coolcars782]

Any sneeky pics then

[Smartalec]

It's still a Conversion Kit, so shocks are not included. Thus, we assume you'll run AE if your are converting a B4, but the choice is yours.

Ellis has said often that the main reason he uses Losi shocks is that he ran for them for years, is very familiar with them, and has zillions of shock parts in his box. So run the shock you have parts for, the ones you know.

Just got the first prototype label from the printer. Dialed...
I'm sure that if Ellis thought that the AE shocks would give him an edge then he would be using them ............ regardless of how many zillions of Losi shock parts he's got hanging around in his pit box :lol:

[Darren Boyle]

I'm sure that if Ellis thought that the AE shocks would give him an edge then he would be using them ............ regardless of how many zillions of Losi shock parts he's got hanging around in his pit box :lol: Exactly! They DONT give him the "edge", so why go to all that hassle of changing all your stuff for no differance when they are much the same as what he already has lots of and knows very well....... ;)

[Smartalec]

Exactly! They DONT give him the "edge", so why go to all that hassle of changing all your stuff for no differance when they are much the same as what he already has lots of and knows very well....... ;)
The point being that you need Losi shocks on the car if it is going to perform the same, I can't remember anyone using AE shocks on an X6 at the top end of the English national scene. There are probably plenty of people that have bought the car and can't afford to throw away the AE shocks from the donor car and fork out on the Losi ones.

Any price yet? :D

[DCM]

I must admit, if X-Factory brought out a full kit, I would really consider one, but I just can't justify the cost of a used B4 and a conversion.

[ben]

My first guess will be around the £400 mark :thumbsup:

[Northy]

I was really looking forward to a Tom Cock edition, with all the metal bits bent and plastic bits cracked in the kit, but he's shattered my dreams now and moved on :(:(:(

G

[Garry Driffill]

Ahh i didnt think it would be long before somthing like this was released! - Good work X-Factory!

[YoungChazz]

Thanks to all for the props. Our only goal is a happy Family -- a whole group of guys working their tails off to be faster today than yesterday and loving that work. Keeps us from mischief...

We now await delivery of one crucial part, the new #5661 rear axle. We are thinking of shipping the Kits without it, then mailing them when they arrive. Hope to have more info this afternoon our time. Remember that we are entirely out of the older #5660, so putting them in won't work.

[Smartalec]

So if you are thinking of shipping out the kits without this one part you MUST have a price, right? :thumbsup:

[Smartalec]

My first guess will be around the £400 mark :thumbsup:
Ouch, people were moaning that the Durango was expensive at £445 for a complete, top of the range 4wd kit ............ can't imagine X Factory can price a 2wd conversion kit at anywhere near that, not when it still needs a decent donor car and a set of shocks. :confused:

[Darren Boyle]

Not quite true Alec, some of the parts are being UK sourced too (Rudebits, Decal Designs etc) Chazz has to worry about the items at his end, the kits are then being sent here and the UK items added, signed individually by Ellis and sealed up ready for despatch. The price will only be confimed when this is complete, which is basically what I posted back on page 1 of this thread.......

The kit is aimed solely at the UK market owing to its nature and will be all revealed VERY soon, so please be patient and bare with us until then.

[ben]

Your paying for the privelidge of owning a one off kit aswell Alec :thumbsup:

[c0sie]

Define "one off" Ben :D

[ben]

haha.. replace that with " a hand full" :p

[GRIFF55]

How ltd is this kit going to be then?? 100/200 kits?

[Smartalec]

Would be excellent if they all came ready built by the man himself .......... poor old Ellis's hands would be a bit sore from all that dremelling :woot:

[jim76]

wonder if the dremel is included in the price?! lol

[DCM]

oh, I shouldn't think so, as I keep getting told, you don't need to Dremmel on the squared..... :woot: :lol:

[ryan_93]

i have never used a dremel on my x6 :woot:

[Smartalec]

wonder if the dremel is included in the price?! lol
Never mind asking Santa for one, it will be that expensive .............. you'd better go and see the Bank Manager LOL :woot::thumbsup:

[Darren Boyle]

You lot are funny :woot:

No there will be NO dremel in the kit (since it is not required...LOL)

Keep the wild guess coming on the price though, when one of you gets remotley close I may comment further.

As far as the "limited" number goes try less than 50! (mush less)

(Alec, price does not matter to you, you already have the two most expensive cars on the track :p ;))

Darren

[GRIFF55]

Less than 50!! Will these kits be numbered, as serpent did with an onroad car lately? That way there would be a guaranteed number released. Just wondering on a collectability thing;)

[coolcars782]

is it 15?

[Smartalec]

You lot are funny :woot:

No there will be NO dremel in the kit (since it is not required...LOL)

Keep the wild guess coming on the price though, when one of you gets remotley close I may comment further.

As far as the "limited" number goes try less than 50! (mush less)

(Alec, price does not matter to you, you already have the two most expensive cars on the track :p ;))

Darren
My CR2 Atomic is the CHEAPEST mid motor 2wd by far. Kit price £145, a £10 XXXNT front and a £70 donor car that already has the Losi shocks on ........ £225 ready to race. ............ Now tell me again, how much is the X6 Limited Edition? :p:p

[jim76]

still more than my £50 madrat with borrowed B4 shocks Alec! lol

[Smartalec]

still more than my £50 madrat with borrowed B4 shocks Alec! lol
Does the person you borrowed the shocks off know how you've tarnished them? LOL

[Smartalec]

[QUOTE=YoungChazz;319101]Hope to have more info this afternoon our time. QUOTE]
Is it price giveaway time yet Mr Chazz? :thumbsup:

[Darren Boyle]

My CR2 Atomic is the CHEAPEST mid motor 2wd by far. Kit price £145, a £10 XXXNT front and a £70 donor car that already has the Losi shocks on ........ £225 ready to race. ............ Now tell me again, how much is the X6 Limited Edition? :p:p

LOL, second hand compared to new ;) luv it!!! (no hydra, sway bars, new front tower, motor brace or reverse idler on yours then ;)) our car is not the only one in the UK with options available you know!!

Would love to remind you again how much the Ellis kit is but we havnt actually announced it yet!! You are all just guessing......

[Darren Boyle]

Less than 50!! Will these kits be numbered, as serpent did with an onroad car lately? That way there would be a guaranteed number released. Just wondering on a collectability thing;) No intention at present of numbering them, not sure on the collectable thing, these are aimed at racers to be used rather than shelved

[GRIFF55]

Fair enough, so it may not be such a ltd release if the kit sells well then?

[Smartalec]

LOL, second hand compared to new ;) luv it!!! (no hydra, sway bars, new front tower, motor brace or reverse idler on yours then ;)) our car is not the only one in the UK with options available you know!!

Would love to remind you again how much the Ellis kit is but we havnt actually announced it yet!! You are all just guessing......Are you saying you don't need a donor car with the Ellis Edition? I thought Chazz said that it's still a conversion!!!! ..........if you do would that donor car not be second hand?, it would make it even more expensive if you had to buy a brand new B4 LOL.

How much is a brand new Losi CR? .......... add that to the £145 for the Atomic and it's all brand new (and still cheap) :thumbsup:

I tried the sway bars, don't like them, I have the motor brace (£15) and the new front tower (£12), but I don't use the reverse idler so add another £27 to mine ............ still makes it way cheaper than anything else on the market :p

[Darren Boyle]

Fair enough, so it may not be such a ltd release if the kit sells well then?

It will 100% be limited (the exact number ONLY depends on the quantities that the outside suppliers can suply at present). Once this is known the number will be announced..

[Darren Boyle]

Are you saying you don't need a donor car with the Ellis Edition? I thought Chazz said that it's still a conversion!!!! ..........if you do would that donor car not be second hand?, it would make it even more expensive if you had to buy a brand new B4 LOL.

How much is a brand new Losi CR? .......... add that to the £145 for the Atomic and it's all brand new (and still cheap) :thumbsup:

I tried the sway bars, don't like them, I have the motor brace (£15) and the new front tower (£12), but I don't use the reverse idler so add another £27 to mine ............ still makes it way cheaper than anything else on the market :p

To clarify, the Ellis Edition IS a conversion kit..

Almost 95% of people we know who have converted cars to mid motor (CR2 or X6) often start with a NEW donor car, very few uses second hand parts.

The CR2 is not "expensive" for what you get, but it is more expensive than an X6 (£145 to £140) donor car £220 (XXXCR) to £190 (B4 FT - less if you use a std team spec) and then the extras both cars "need" - CR2 £27 as you say for "essentials" and approx £32 for the X6 essentials (E-Speed hangers and long axles), all other "hop ups" for both cars are luxuries that are NOT needed. So - CR2 £392 and X6 £362, its not cheaper mate....... (unless like everyone else, you want to include ALL the luxuries when talking about an X6 only...)

The Ellis car will NOT be cheap, lets get that confirmed and clear now, but includes many of the "luxuries" we talk about that people want and Ellis uses. Brass weight kits are not essential, available for ALL cars out there (including the CR2 amongst others), the Lunsford titanium, front wing, roll bars, etc etc are all "nice" bits that set a standard car apart from all the others and more importnat have featured on the very car that has now won two nationals title back to back.

I am certian that if AC won the same titles we would see a "Danny Magoo" version or similiar (maybe with his new alloy chassis etc and any tweaks he uses) and it would be all very similiar to what we have here.

I assume with all this interest in the topic you are keen on getting one then?

[Mike Hudson]

I'm guessing it'll be around the £270-290 mark? :drool: bet that shiny brass weight kit makes a fair difference to the price ;)

[Lee]

I can guarantee the price will be between 100 and 500, is that close enough Darren?:D

[Darren Boyle]

I can guarantee the price will be between 100 and 500, is that close enough Darren?:D It might be....just (if we include every part ever known for the X6 plus the essential dremel kit too) LOL :p

[DCM]

This may sound like a daft question, but if the E-Speed hangers and long axles are 'essential' items, why are they not included in the conversion?

[super__dan]

Cos they don't run them in the states or Japan where most of the cars are sold, they do however work very well on Euro tracks.

[Smartalec]

To clarify, the Ellis Edition IS a conversion kit..

Almost 95% of people we know who have converted cars to mid motor (CR2 or X6) often start with a NEW donor car, very few uses second hand parts.

The CR2 is not "expensive" for what you get, but it is more expensive than an X6 (£145 to £140) donor car £220 (XXXCR) to £190 (B4 FT - less if you use a std team spec) and then the extras both cars "need" - CR2 £27 as you say for "essentials" and approx £32 for the X6 essentials (E-Speed hangers and long axles), all other "hop ups" for both cars are luxuries that are NOT needed. So - CR2 £392 and X6 £362, its not cheaper mate....... (unless like everyone else, you want to include ALL the luxuries when talking about an X6 only...)

The Ellis car will NOT be cheap, lets get that confirmed and clear now, but includes many of the "luxuries" we talk about that people want and Ellis uses. Brass weight kits are not essential, available for ALL cars out there (including the CR2 amongst others), the Lunsford titanium, front wing, roll bars, etc etc are all "nice" bits that set a standard car apart from all the others and more importnat have featured on the very car that has now won two nationals title back to back.

I am certian that if AC won the same titles we would see a "Danny Magoo" version or similiar (maybe with his new alloy chassis etc and any tweaks he uses) and it would be all very similiar to what we have here.

I assume with all this interest in the topic you are keen on getting one then?
You missed the £100 plus from the X6 for the Losi shocks ......... or don't you class them as essential? :lol:

I'm interested in the price :D

[DCM]

Can a 'Euro Spec' conversion kit be made then?

[Darren Boyle]

You missed the £100 plus from the X6 for the Losi shocks ......... or don't you class them as essential? :lol:

I'm interested in the price :D

I said "essentials" not "preferentials". AE shocks seem to work fine on every B4 up and down the country, we "prefer" Losi, since we are not affiliated to either Losi or Associated we are free to choose...

[Darren Boyle]

Can a 'Euro Spec' conversion kit be made then?
DCM, we are looking at the possabilities of this at present for our "next project". At least one of those two itesm WILL be included in the kit.....

[ryan_93]

my price guess is between £350 and £400?

[matdodd]

You missed the £100 plus from the X6 for the Losi shocks ......... or don't you class them as essential? :lol:

I'm interested in the price :D


Losi Shocks weren't essential on Phil Channon's X6 when he ran one.
In fact if I remember right he made the A at a national with AE shocks! :p

It is a personal preference thing, I run Losi shocks because I'm terrible at building AE ones :blush:

[big smithy]

at least it will make the schumacher look cheap for a full kit :)

[mark christopher]

simple thing is here, you pay for what you get, if you have a b4 run it, if you want an x6 buy the conversion, if you want the losi version, but that.

anyone care to name one car that does not offer options? bear in mind this is also using "outside" suppliers to X factory.

you can buy all the parts seperate, but this way its in one box and i dare say it will be cheaper than buying them individually.

i run associated shocks on my x6, and it handles ok for me.... i have seen schumachers running losi shocks!!

[bigbison]

at least it will make the schumacher look cheap for a full kit :)
schuis are cheap and shit :p:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[YoungChazz]

We now have confirmation on the last part. Production is finished on this part, and they are preparing our invoice, which is what we need to determine our actual cost, including shipping to us.

The last part for the E.S.C.E. (Ellis Stafford Championship Edition) was one part in an order for several, and the entire order is not finished. They say that will be late next week. We are trying to get them to ship the last part separately and invoice it separately.

We do know this: retail on the E.S.C.E. will be more than $50 less than if you bought all the bits separately; if you want the Real Deal, the E.S.C.E. is the way to do it.

[MRD]

Whats the chance of X-Factory bringing out a full 2wd kit? Ive noticed more and more dedicated parts are being made so is it only a matter of time before we can get a complete kit or would the production/development costs be too high?

[Spoolio]

schuis are cheap and shit :p:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Errr, something's not right here. You're not slagging off Essex's anymore...hang on, I reckon one of these is going to end up on your bench soon. Am I right???? Dude, if you are getting an X6 I'll have to get something else - wonder how the Hornet would go round Worksop with a 7.5 X12 up it's chuff :o.

[millzy]

I ask what roll bar kit comes with the Ellis version and what thickness bars

[YoungChazz]

MRD, the 4WD car we are beginning -- just beginning -- to work on will, if it actually happens, be the whole thing. We plan no more Conversion Kits.

Millzy, we are giving you everything you need except the bar itself. The rear bulkheads have been slotted so the bar fits under the CF shock tower. You get the two ball ends for the bar with set screws, and two Lunsford 1" Ti turnbuckles + ball cups to make the links.

We planned to include the LOSA 4257 sway bar kit, but not enough of them are available. That kit has the ball ends, links, and little plastic sway bar mounts. Since most Team drivers prefer the turnbuckle links and the ball ends were available separately, we took this route. If you get the Losi kit those included bars don't fit, so you've still got to make up your own bar.

[millzy]

MRD, the 4WD car we are beginning -- just beginning -- to work on will, if it actually happens, be the whole thing. We plan no more Conversion Kits.

Millzy, we are giving you everything you need except the bar itself. The rear bulkheads have been slotted so the bar fits under the CF shock tower. You get the two ball ends for the bar with set screws, and two Lunsford 1" Ti turnbuckles + ball cups to make the links.

We planned to include the LOSA 4257 sway bar kit, but not enough of them are available. That kit has the ball ends, links, and little plastic sway bar mounts. Since most Team drivers prefer the turnbuckle links and the ball ends were available separately, we took this route. If you get the Losi kit those included bars don't fit, so you've still got to make up your own bar.


Yes thats what i was wondering - as ellis runs a 090 bar

[Ben Turner]

Any news then?

[GRIFF55]

i was just thinking the same!

[Ben Turner]

Unless they've worked out the RRP and are too scared too tell us :p

[Smartalec]

Unless they've worked out the RRP and are too scared too tell us :p
I can't believe that anyone would even consider marketing anything without knowing the exact price :confused: ........... how would you know whether it would be commercially viable or commercial suicide?

Me thinks they know, they just don't want to tell yet :p

[Darren Boyle]

I can't believe that anyone would even consider marketing anything without knowing the exact price :confused: ........... how would you know whether it would be commercially viable or commercial suicide?

Me thinks they know, they just don't want to tell yet :p

As of an email recieved approx 1 hour ago, all the prices are now in... :thumbsup:

I think you will find that EVERY R/C car has been announced BEFORE the price and fine details are finalised, there is nothing new with this concept.

Amongst all the other important and busy things at this time of year we will be working out the full trade, and retail prices and the press release will now follow in the coming few days. We announced it early so people knew it was coming in time for Xmas and that people did not buy somthing else that they would later regret......

[GRIFF55]

Will this be available before christmas then? Can you give us a guide price for it?

[Smartalec]

Will this be available before christmas then? Can you give us a guide price for it?The price on the gift wrapping has to be finalised first :woot:

[Darren Boyle]

Will this be available before christmas then? Can you give us a guide price for it?
Fingers crossed that UK customs and UPS play ball then yes we do "hope" they will be here before Xmas.........

Now, as a WORLDWIDE EXCLUSIVE, here on OOPLE, some sneak pics of the box AND the confirmed UK RRP will be posted here on this thread later this evening.....

[GRIFF55]

nice one!

[Darren Boyle]

Ok, so I promised you all the price and a few details this evening, so here goes....

The Ellis Edition car is coming as a "conversion" as already talked about (but no dremel in sight) and is being released as a celebration of the "back to back" national titles that Ellis and X-Factory have won in 2008 (X6) and 2009 (X6 Squared).

The car features all of the main parts that Ellis uses to such great effect to really fine tune his own car to make it reliable, well balanced, responsive and above all FASTEST.

The total retail cost of the "optional" parts alone added to this kit over and above what is normally standard in an X6 Squared is over £280!!!! Although you will have to wait until tommorow for the FULL and FINAL, OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE, however this information given here is a WORLD EXCLUSIVE for OOPLE only.

The kits are due to ship from the USA tommorow (thursday) now that all "USA sourced" parts have arrived and are being expressed by UPS direct to us here in the UK, where we will add the "UK sourced" items and seal the kits for despatch. There is only ONE batch of these limited edition kits being made (EVER), each and every one has the box label hand signed and numbered by Ellis himself. Owing to the nature of the absolute top spec kit and the costs invloved to bring it to the public it is only being produced in a limited quantity, the total that have been produced is just 50!!! The good news they are heading to the UK and just a very select few we are forwarding on to the rest of Europe.

Now if all goes well UPS will be delivering them between Tuesday and Thursday next week (22nd - 24th) just in time for Xmas.

For the FULL spec, pictures and details you will have to wait until tommorow for the PRESS RELEASE, however the kit will include any items that Ellis deems as essential and many which are there purely for good looks, added bling, ultimate tunability and simply to make this kit head and shoulders above anything else anywhere on the market. Chazz has also told me he will try his hardest to get along here tonight with some sneak pictures of the box etc (remember his "night" time finishes later than ours due to the time zone differances)

Some people have already put their name down for one, without having any of the final details confirmed or costs etc, but approx half (just over)of the production remain available still, so if you are seriuosly intersted in getting one of these rare gems then get your name down now with your local or favourite X-Factory UK dealer.......

Oh yeah, nearly forgot the UK Full RRP is £334.99 (remember we never said this thing was going to be cheap, but it is the ULTIMATE), but check with your local stockist from tommorrow afternoon onwards for their respective pricing....

[jim76]

pmsl!! over £500 for a 2wd when you add in a new B4!!

[Darren Boyle]

So your name will down for one in the morning then!!! LOL Or are you sticking with your £50 winter giggle........

The first sarcastic comment took long to arrive...... 1 minute :rolleyes:

[GRIFF55]

What comes in the conversion kit? rudebits kit, ddp parts? e speed parts? k factory parts?
the only thing to add to make it the same car as ellis's would be shocks yeh?

[Darren Boyle]

What comes in the conversion kit? rudebits kit, ddp parts? e speed parts? k factory parts?
the only thing to add to make it the same car as ellis's would be shocks yeh?

You are pretty close with that list (except that KFactory do not make the front tower any longer :thumbdown:)

No the shocks are not there, the debate on whether these are "essential" or not will ramble on for ages I guess, and we did look to add these too to make it a "replica" but it was not viable within the price range we wanted the kit to be, we knew it would not be cheap but we also had ceiling limits to work too (at one point Chazz wanted to include the servo, LRP motor and LRP ESC that Ellis used too in the box, but we decided against it).

Add to your list though parts from Lunsford, MIP, J Concepts, Losi, AE as well as optional parts from within X-Factory too then you will be there, however the full spec will be released in tommorow's PRESS RELEASE....

[YoungChazz]

I"m writing from my kitchen at 1:15 AM, and have discovered the pix are only on the work computer. So tomorrow AM my time for pix of box.

I will also try to give a list of all the stuph you get. If you want the very best, the very fastest thing out there, this is it, all in one Kit, and it will cost you about $50 less than buying it all separately. Lots of people do that -- buy it all separately -- so this is a bargain.

Darren has not mentioned that there will be an addendum to the instructions written by Ellis where he details his personal touches to the car.

Ellis will number the boxes, and if I were in the market for one of these, I might just offer Darren a pile of gold for a very low number. Then I would carefully open the box from the bottom so the signed numbered label remains intact. It would be easy enough to re-seal the bottom, and there I would have the signed low-number box.

And, yes, I'll re-state that we think the price is quite reasonable considering the regular price of everything you get. As Darren says, I wanted to include motor, speedo, servo, receiver, an Ellis replica body, and an Ellis T-shirt. Now that would be expensive!

[Smartalec]

pmsl!! over £500 for a 2wd when you add in a new B4!!
More like over £600 when you add on the optional but not essential Losi shocks to make it an exact Ellis replica .............. come on Jimbo do the MATH :woot:

[Kopite]

More like over £600 when you add on the optional but not essential Losi shocks to make it an exact Ellis replica .............. come on Jimbo do the MATH :woot:

Your comments are starting to get REALLY boring now....

[Smartalec]

Your comments are starting to get REALLY boring now....
That "comment" was aimed at James, nothing to do with you. And besides that, it's actually a fact, so if it's boring, it's boring :)

[Kopite]

That "comment" was aimed at James, nothing to do with you. And besides that, it's actually a fact, so if it's boring, it's boring :)

If it's nothing to do with me, or in fact anyone in the world, why post it on a public forum then?

I also meant all your other posts in this thread too. Just give it a rest now eh

I think this car is a great idea. X Factory aren't forcing anyone to buy it, which is exactly the point really. It's just nice for people to have that option. :thumbsup:

[Yoldume]

Would it not have been more cost effective to just supply the option parts as a kit for those who already own a x6 ?

also making it cheaper meaning t shirts losi shocks and the esc and motor could be included ?

[lochness42]

Darren has not mentioned that there will be an addendum to the instructions written by Ellis where he details his personal touches to the car.

Will it be also available in pdf format or it will be only available with kit?

[Darren Boyle]

Would it not have been more cost effective to just supply the option parts as a kit for those who already own a x6 ?

also making it cheaper meaning t shirts losi shocks and the esc and motor could be included ?

This is a new kit aimed at those who want the ULTIMATE, there would have been little point doing an "extras" conversion for many reasons, least not that fact that "some" people dont have the X6 yet and if you were adding all this "new" bling to an already second hand/worn car would in my opinion be wasted, you would want it all new and fresh... Also one of the BIG comments we get is that you have to buy the conversion, then a B4 and then hop ups, this puts all the "X-Factory" items in one box ready to go for those who want to and are lucky enough to get it...

The resons we decided against the ESC and Motor etc was A) It would of just made the price stupidly expensive and B) We are not LRP or Savox...Our job is to promote the "car" and not the electronics used inside it, besides not everyone would want LRP equipment, they may have perfectly good alternatives already from thier own favourite brand.

[Darren Boyle]

Will it be also available in pdf format or it will be only available with kit?

As far as I am aware, only in the kit...

[Smartalec]

If it's nothing to do with me, or in fact anyone in the world, why post it on a public forum then?

I also meant all your other posts in this thread too. Just give it a rest now eh

I think this car is a great idea. X Factory aren't forcing anyone to buy it, which is exactly the point really. It's just nice for people to have that option. :thumbsup:
It had to be posted on here as it was a reply to James (hence the quote) :)

The "other" posts are all friendly banter. I've known Darren for longer than most and he knows that all the comments are made in jest :lol:

Nobody says the cars not a great idea, it's excellent to have a choice and not be stuck with the same old stuff :thumbsup:

Now climb off that horse, it's too high :p

[millzy]

dose it come with a plastic Chassis?

[Cooper]

I want a Tom Cockerill edition :'(

[Northy]

Ali rear hubs? :confused:

[Smartalec]

dose it come with a plastic Chassis?
What does Ellis use? ......... I imagine it comes with that

[lochness42]

As far as I am aware, only in the kit...

So we have to find someone who'll buy it and scan for us? :o

[Richard Lowe]

I want a Tom Cockerill edition :'(
With the front end pre snapped off?

DzlgjAT49oo

What a legend :lol:

[Lee]

Toms new ride


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[YoungChazz]

Here you go. These are photos of the prototype box labels -- the box itself is empty.

As we run out of box labels we will upgrade the packaging on each Kit by adding labels to the two ends. The E.S.C.E. is the first with this new treatment.

At the shop now, and working on final packaging. Must make up special B bags and special D bags with special Ellis parts. Then load it all into the boxes and get it shipped. We'll see if we make shipping cut-off time today.

There are the regular orders to take care of, and regular merchandise being received...

[YoungChazz]

Standard X - 6 Squared Conversion Kit with the following exceptions:
Plastic chassis substituted
Special bulkhead with groove for sway bar
Special wing mounts

Plus:

ES001 Camber Link Extenders
ES002 Motor Plate Support
DDP024 Motor Plate
DDP025 Shim Kit (x2)
RudeBits weight kit
#1225 Battery quick change kit
#2601 Steel trailing axles made by M.I.P.
#5661 Rear C.V.D. axles with spacers all made by M.I.P
Lunsford Ti turnbuckles, including short ones for the rear camber links (6)
Lunsford Ti broached ball studs (14)
Losi #6016 gray ball cups
J Concepts front air dam
AE #9593 30 degree caster blocks
AE #9608 blue axle spacers w/flat head screws to mount wing.
1" Lunsford Ti turnbuckles w/ #6016 ball cups and sway bar pivots

All the above is for sure. Darren is still working out the possibility of including Ellis' special decals, but that will not change pricing. It's a matter of how quickly the decals can be made and shipped.

The big things driving cost are the weight kit and all the Ti stuff. But we can't imagine anybody with the Real Deal not having both.

Now I'm going to work.

[usafaircrew]

Very nice. All we need here in the states is BK or Paul to win the Nats so we can get a BK or PS edition.:thumbsup:

[usafaircrew]

Sweet video of the UK Legend!:thumbsup:

[c0sie]

Good thing you didnt include any LRP electrics in the kit eh :D

http://www.redrc.net/2009/12/speed-passion-sign-uk-national-champion-ellis-stafford/

[chris68nufc]

Good thing you didnt include any LRP electrics in the kit eh :D

http://www.redrc.net/2009/12/speed-passion-sign-uk-national-champion-ellis-stafford/

We would just have to buy S Passion stuff to go with it. Its just money after all:woot: Good job we arent in a recession:woot::woot:

[c0sie]

Is Ellis with X-Factory for 2010? 4WD and 2WD?

[Chris Doughty]

Is Ellis with X-Factory for 2010? 4WD and 2WD?

I heard he wants to race nitro.... :woot:

[c0sie]

Wow, double take!!

I thought you said micro then :D

[Smartalec]

I wonder who has put his/her name down for numero uno?

[Smartalec]

I heard he wants to race nitro.... :woot:
I heard you were coming back to electric where you belong Chris :thumbsup:

[Big E]

Is Ellis with X-Factory for 2010? 4WD and 2WD?

Of course I am still with them......and yes both classes
Part of the reason the electrics didn't go in was I knew I was possibly moving

[Big E]

I heard he wants to race nitro.... :woot:

Fat chance of that too smelly and noisy.:lol:

[Big E]

I wonder who has put his/her name down for numero uno?

That will be me:thumbsup:
Not sure I will even get one.....but I suppose I already do have one:woot:

[Smartalec]

That will be me:thumbsup:
Not sure I will even get one.....but I suppose I already do have one:woot:
Will you get a discount? :lol:

[David Church]

That will be me:thumbsup:
Not sure I will even get one.....but I suppose I already do have one:woot:


Ellis will you sign my boob??? :p

[Smartalec]

That will be me:thumbsup:
Not sure I will even get one.....but I suppose I already do have one:woot:..........or maybe Chazz will just send you out a box for you to sign yourself :thumbsup:

[Smartalec]

Ellis will you sign my boob??? :p
I heard he already did and you had Kevin Moore on the other one :woot:

[Smartalec]

..........and I don't want to know what part of you Tom Cockerill signed LOL

[David Church]

I heard he already did and you had Kevin Moore on the other one :woot:


Does this mean I am now worth more??? Lol:woot:

[Smartalec]

Does this mean I am now worth more??? Lol:woot:
You couldn't possibly be worth less mate :lol:

[David Church]

You couldn't possibly be worth less mate :lol:


Awwww thanks mate:)

[Smartalec]

Awwww thanks mate:)
How's your week been so far with two of the "A" team (well 1 and a half) :thumbsup:

[David Church]

How's your week been so far with two of the "A" team (well 1 and a half) :thumbsup:


It's been interesting!!! Yes they whoop me on the track but I have been kicking their ass' all week!!! Feels good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumbsup:

[Smartalec]

It's been interesting!!! Yes they whoop me on the track but I have been kicking their ass' all week!!! Feels good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumbsup:Pay back time YEEEEEHAAAAA :thumbsup:

[David Church]

Pay back time YEEEEEHAAAAA :thumbsup:
OH YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumbsup:

[niggs98]

hmmmmmmmmm....... what ever :P

[GRIFF55]

..........and I don't want to know what part of you Tom Cockerill signed LOL


ha ha ha ha!!!:lol:

[lochness42]

Does this mean I am now worth more??? Lol:woot:

Depends if you also have number along with sign

[YoungChazz]

D.M.S.' Kits were shipped today. Post office guarantees delivery on Dec 24. We will see if it gets through U.K. customs...

[lochness42]

Please anyone who will get one of these kits, please scan addenum for me and send me pm about it. Thanks for anyone who is so nice and will do it for me.

[YoungChazz]

The addendum will probably go on line shortly after the first of the year. Paul, who is doing much of the web work in addition to his other duties, is up to his eyeballs in engineering work and is taking several days off over Christmas to be with the family.

[lochness42]

The addendum will probably go on line shortly after the first of the year. Paul, who is doing much of the web work in addition to his other duties, is up to his eyeballs in engineering work and is taking several days off over Christmas to be with the family.

Well, that's very nice. Thank you very much Chazz

[Smartalec]

So whose chimney did Santa drop down and place one of these under the tree then? ............ and was it number one? :)

[jim76]

nobody? lol

[Darren Boyle]

No-one yet, unles they broke into the HM Customs warehouse were they are still sat :thumbdown:

Although only a small handful of them are now left available with pre-orders and deposits in place for a large proportion of them.

[Kifogrande]

I hope they are all gone/not arrived by tuesday or I might be leaving £300 lighter!

[Darren Boyle]

LOL!! If they turn up and any are left I will hide them out the back..:lol:

[Kifogrande]

I might have to come in wednesday then to catch you out! After all you cant take it with you:thumbsup:

[Darren Boyle]

THEY ARE HERE!!!!

The kits arrived this afternoon, have all had the Rudebits weight kits, option parts and decal sheets added and then sealed and finished off with the personally autographed Ellis label.

All pre-ordered kits and dealer orders have been shipped tonight via UPS and "should" all be out for delivery tommorow. (We still have some left from the shipment for anyone who thought they may had missed out or who had not ordered one just yet)

[TonyM]

I've been waiting for the 5661 axles I ordered to arrive, before running my new X6 Squared. Did they also come with the kit shipment and if so will I get them soon?

[Darren Boyle]

Yes the new 5661 axles arrived yesterday too. I am not going to lie, we pout priority on getting the kits out first yesterday and then started shipping all the back orders of the axles etc. About 20 pairs of axles left here yesterday to customers and dealers and then the remaining 10-15 packets have now been processed and packaged this morning :thumbsup:

[TonyM]

Super - many thanks.

Yes the new 5661 axles arrived yesterday too. I am not going to lie, we pout priority on getting the kits out first yesterday and then started shipping all the back orders of the axles etc. About 20 pairs of axles left here yesterday to customers and dealers and then the remaining 10-15 packets have now been processed and packaged this morning :thumbsup:

[andys]

X-6 Ellis edition arrived today :)

Super quick service from DMS. All looks great, just waiting to get the time to put it together properly. It's a great idea to have everything in one box, for occasional racers like me, it's much easier than buying / shipping everything separately.

Good work Darren :)