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Beanie
21-12-2009, 06:10 PM
Anyone seen the new B4.1 and also T4.1 models? Much better than a B4?

Cheers!

Beanie
DCM
21-12-2009, 06:11 PM
care to post a link?
Beanie
21-12-2009, 06:13 PM
http://67.199.85.166/teamassociated/kitsrtrshome.php
mikeyscott
21-12-2009, 06:16 PM
Isn't that just to do with the new 2.4 radio etc as that's still not a FT kit etc.
DCM
21-12-2009, 06:17 PM
looks like they have changed the chaasis to the same facilities as the sc10, and 2.4ghz radio.
Beanie
21-12-2009, 06:21 PM
Thumbscrews on the batttery strap too....look a better idea but perhaps less sturdy than the older screws? Toying with getting a roller B4, from what you see, worth geting the 4.1 or not frankly that much different?
Richard Lowe
21-12-2009, 06:21 PM
The B4 looks to have the new shock towers too.
MikePimlott
21-12-2009, 06:27 PM
http://www.redrc.net/2009/12/team-associated-rc10b4-1-rtr-buggy/
MALLET
21-12-2009, 06:31 PM
This is the biggest difference......:o :thumbsup:

http://www.redrc.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/AssoT4-1-5-400x259.jpg
Adam F
21-12-2009, 06:33 PM
Apart from the diff & a bit of anodising, it dosnt look like much has changed? Unless I am missing something?

Pretty good for a RTR though...
DCM
21-12-2009, 06:34 PM
the B4 has been SC10-a-fied!!
colmo
21-12-2009, 06:37 PM
http://www.redrc.net/2009/12/team-associated-rc10b4-1-rtr-buggy/

- 2.6:1 ratio gearbox with sealed gear differential

Hmm...wonder if that could be shoehorned into a BJ4 or B44...
sparrow.2
21-12-2009, 07:10 PM
Hmm...wonder if that could be shoehorned into a BJ4 or B44...

Not a hope in hell of getting that into a 4wd. Had it in my hands and gave it a bit of thought but would be a total nightmare and probably not work.

Looks like it has a new body too. Judging by the fotos it also has the new shock towers on it too...
MikePimlott
21-12-2009, 07:12 PM
Hmm...wonder if that could be shoehorned into a BJ4 or B44...

Never mind that does it go into an X6 :confused:
Beanie
21-12-2009, 07:24 PM
Hmm....what's better in the B4, ball diff or gear diff? if Gear diff, do you adjust by using different viscosity oils like in my 1/8?

I usually run 1/8 nitro/leccy (Losi 8T/e) but am looking at getting a 1/10 buggy for some indoor fun during the winter months...
ryan_93
21-12-2009, 07:25 PM
looks like a new shell aswell
AntH
22-12-2009, 09:04 AM
Anyone know if the B4.1 shock towers have different geometry? US drivers seem to be running a '4th hole' on the rear shock tower on their FT's, running lipo with very little weight added. Would be interested to know if the shocks are at more of an angle with these towers.
Richard Lowe
22-12-2009, 11:17 AM
Anyone know if the B4.1 shock towers have different geometry? US drivers seem to be running a '4th hole' on the rear shock tower on their FT's, running lipo with very little weight added. Would be interested to know if the shocks are at more of an angle with these towers.
AFAIK the front tower is the same but thicker and made of different plastic.
The rear has the 4th hole and the outer hole on the current tower has been taken off.
AntH
22-12-2009, 12:23 PM
Thanks Richard, I'll have to get myself one of the rear towers then as I've been messing around running with lipo and no added mass with some self drilled 4th holes - not the most accurate drilling in the world though!

Has anyone else tried running lipo with no added mass and using softer springs and/or the 4th hole?

Did I see something about the gear diff being adjustable? How does this work and is it any good? There's no oil in it, right?
panch
22-12-2009, 05:33 PM
Never mind that does it go into an X6 :confused:

Sparrow.. as you have had a good look at it, any idea if it will fit an x6 ??
mark christopher
22-12-2009, 06:09 PM
Hmm...wonder if that could be shoehorned into a BJ4 or B44...

b44 has a crown and pinion gear, look at the pic of the diff!!


Sparrow.. as you have had a good look at it, any idea if it will fit an x6 ??

the sc10 does not fit in the b4 without using the sc10 gear box, so id say no!
MHeadling
22-12-2009, 07:12 PM
To fit a AE gear diff in a B4 or X6 you need ;

SC10 gear diff
SC10 gear case
SC10 Metric diff bearings
SC10 T plate (gear box mount)
Darren Boyle
23-12-2009, 02:49 AM
Them parts wont fit an X6 Mark....
AiR
30-12-2009, 08:39 AM
Has anyone yet tried the gear diff vs ball diff and measured lap times?

My friends has few Durangos at the moment and they work great indoors and outdoors aswell.
sparrow.2
30-12-2009, 08:57 AM
Sparrow.. as you have had a good look at it, any idea if it will fit an x6 ??


Sorry for the late reply. I think the transmission case on the X6 is too narrow to take the diff. additionally, the diff bearings on the gear diff are metric, so won't fit properly...

An Xfactory transmission case that ate the gear diff would be cool though :)
MHeadling
30-12-2009, 11:00 AM
DMS Racing

Them parts wont fit an X6 Mark....

Of course they wont! what was I thinking, I must have had a few beers when I wrote that, but all those bits will work to get a gear diff in a B4!
Darren Boyle
30-12-2009, 11:11 AM
Some will fit a B4 but not all though..... :p
Welshy40
30-12-2009, 11:11 AM
Of course they wont! what was I thinking, I must have had a few beers when I wrote that, but all those bits will work to get a gear diff in a B4!

I know in 4wd gear diffs are just as good a ball as i tested in the early 90's and prefered the gear mainly down to the torque i could get out of a corner using gear. I tried in 2wd as well and was not as good with gear so went back to the better suited ball which gave more control. I hope this info helps you out a bit