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jimmy
27-01-2010, 11:09 AM
Schumacher said they wanted to keep the Cougar SV for the upcoming Nuremberg Toyfair - but someone got impatient and released a couple of teaser shots to whet the appitite!

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/news/sv01.jpg

The new mid-motor 2WD Cougar SV will come with the new PTFE coated 13mm 'big bore' dampers which have been tested on the CAT SX over recent months. The car can use stick or saddle-type lipo batteries. A 'reversed' motor position and multi-gear gearbox help put the power down.

We're also told the car features industry standard wheel fitment - though the front wheel fitment isn't clear yet.

The car also features what Schumacher are calling a 'constant radius steering system'.

The bodyshell looks like a throwback to the older cougars but features a built-in gear cover for the new mid-motor layout. A huge rear wing is nice change from the weedy CAT SX one and an undertray helps seal things up from the elements.

jimmy
27-01-2010, 11:17 AM
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/news/sv01x.jpg
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/news/sv02.jpg

Chris Doughty
27-01-2010, 11:22 AM
if the front wheels are B4 fitment then we should finally see some wheels that schumacher front tires fit on without bead trimming :woot:

ian h
27-01-2010, 11:22 AM
Sweet!!! When can I get 1?????

IceMike
27-01-2010, 11:23 AM
Ok now im defo changing my 2wd!!

Jamie B4
27-01-2010, 11:23 AM
Car looks very inpressive and should be awesome - even better with an all orange body shell - what do you think Jonesy

c0sie
27-01-2010, 11:31 AM
Does anyone know any prices for this at all?
Ive heard that there will be 4 versions of the Cougar, but dont quote me on that (who am I, eh :D)

mikeyscott
27-01-2010, 11:57 AM
I reckon it'll be north of £250

I assume there will be the S1 and full Phil Booth style editions again.

raine
27-01-2010, 12:07 PM
anyone wants ab b4 ft , hrhr ;)

mikeyscott
27-01-2010, 12:08 PM
anyone wants ab b4 ft , hrhr ;)

Keeping my B4 as they are cheap and parts are cheap

GRIFF55
27-01-2010, 12:11 PM
Looks nice, good to see they put new tyres on for this ones release pics, lol.
Black and gold looks good too

c0sie
27-01-2010, 12:12 PM
Jim, you oughta get Schumacher to fly you over to the Nuremburg show :D

bigred5765
27-01-2010, 12:15 PM
if the front wheels are B4 fitment then we should finally see some wheels that schumacher front tires fit on without bead trimming :woot:
according to the web site front and rear wheels are industry standard so ae rims should fit and vice versa

jono83
27-01-2010, 12:47 PM
i will defo be having one...

tony12795
27-01-2010, 01:08 PM
Don't think the front wheels will fit the B4 as Shumacher use metric ball bearings.

tony12795
27-01-2010, 01:12 PM
Looks like you will have to buy CF links for the camber positions... Like the CAT SX

kitesurfer73
27-01-2010, 01:14 PM
Am keeping my x6:thumbsup: till the hype calm's down, then take a look maybe...

bigred5765
27-01-2010, 01:17 PM
Don't think the front wheels will fit the B4 as Shumacher use metric ball bearings.
wana put money on it:woot:

Gaz_Stanton
27-01-2010, 01:32 PM
Does the minipins and timing of this release point to a debut this weekend?...

mikeyscott
27-01-2010, 01:34 PM
Does the minipins and timing of this release point to a debut this weekend?...

BRCA indoor even isnt' it at Worksop?

Evsie
27-01-2010, 01:36 PM
Am keeping my x6:thumbsup: till the hype calm's down, then take a look maybe...

I agree with you mate.

Spoolio
27-01-2010, 01:38 PM
Black and gold looks good too

Until you see they've left in the bloody purple bits too. Still I guess the fact they are willing to consider other colours is a start :p.

SHY
27-01-2010, 01:46 PM
Sweet! I'd only wish they'd drop that purple anodizing! It reminds me too much of old Serpent fuel track cars and Mega engines... :cry:

And it's kinda gay... :p

c0sie
27-01-2010, 02:04 PM
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1681/logo4r.jpg http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/8494/cougarsvlogo1000.jpg

I feel like the micro forum has influenced this new Cougar in some way :thumbsup: lol

tony12795
27-01-2010, 02:30 PM
Arr right so what you’re saying Schumacher have used imperial BBs. That’s not like Schumacher.....
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I would put money on it but you still owe me £35 !!!!!!


wana put money on it:woot:

bigred5765
27-01-2010, 02:45 PM
im saying nothing but double or quits

Slyp Dawg
27-01-2010, 02:59 PM
when I first saw that front bulkhead, I thought this was going to be a 4WD with 2wd buggy levels of front end kickup. seriously, that bulkhead is gigantic! you could just about fit a small differential in there.

that being said, this thing looks properly awesome and if they'd just drop the purple ano in favor of a nice crimson/blood red, it would look absolutely sinister

c0sie
27-01-2010, 03:03 PM
Just out of interest...why do 2WD buggies have so much castor in comparison to 4WD buggies?

Chris Doughty
27-01-2010, 03:07 PM
Just out of interest...why do 2WD buggies have so much castor in comparison to 4WD buggies?

I don't know for sure, but I would say with the weight balance of a 4WD (forwards) running that much kick-up (not just caster) it would be GTi'ing like a beast! (lifting the inside rear going into the corner)

with a 2WD the weight it much further back so transfering the weight forward into the corner is normally a good thing.

just a little interweb engineer theory of mine

(to do with kick-up not caster - Id assume that extreme caster is a by-product of this)

c0sie
27-01-2010, 03:14 PM
Your a clever sod Doughty :)
Thanks for the reply :)

Chris Doughty
27-01-2010, 03:20 PM
Your a clever sod Doughty :)
Thanks for the reply :)

I'm just good at justifying my thoughts, they may not be right... :woot:

tony12795
27-01-2010, 03:32 PM
Any other thoughts ??

1/10th this year ?

Chris Doughty
27-01-2010, 03:45 PM
I'm actually really impressed with the looks of this, I'd say Schumacher have pulled a blinder here.

interested to see where things have ended up inside

bigred5765
27-01-2010, 03:49 PM
Doughty for A Team position 4, I say

Chris Doughty
27-01-2010, 04:01 PM
tempted to write Schumacher in my signature line for a laugh :woot:

jimmy
27-01-2010, 04:04 PM
It's a lovely looking car alright. Those front arms give it a really unique look - a bit like the prototype Kyosho RB5 that they ran at the Worlds 2005.
My first guess would have been that the angle allowed the front shocks to sit lower but it's hard to tell if that's the case anyway.

I guess the front bulkhead is so big maybe to contain the steering? or just to make the shock tower a lot smaller / less prone to damage?

mikeyscott
27-01-2010, 04:06 PM
I'd love to know what software they use to design it and wheather they use any HPC kit for simulations etc.

Fabs
27-01-2010, 04:12 PM
It's a lovely looking car alright. Those front arms give it a really unique look - a bit like the prototype Kyosho RB5 that they ran at the Worlds 2005.
My first guess would have been that the angle allowed the front shocks to sit lower but it's hard to tell if that's the case anyway.

I guess the front bulkhead is so big maybe to contain the steering? or just to make the shock tower a lot smaller / less prone to damage?

I'd say you're bang on the money, it looks to me like the so called constant radius steering is a schuey way to say the steering is 'reversed'. I.e. The pivot is at the front inside the bulkhead and the rack behind. That'd free some space for the servo in front of the pack, and also will make sure the inner wheel doesn't wobble at full lock. Of course it also totally changes the ackermann so I'm curious to see the car in the flesh.

Looks to me like b4 style wheels, so imperial bearing I. The wheels, but most certainly metric everywhere else.

Fabs
27-01-2010, 04:15 PM
I'd love to know what software they use to design it and wheather they use any HPC kit for simulations etc.

It's called pbb and you can only get it at Schumacher... Because it's not been designed with cad, phil does everything on the drawing board.

Chris Ashton
27-01-2010, 04:27 PM
It's called pbb and you can only get it at Schumacher... Because it's not been designed with cad, phil does everything on the drawing board.

:eh?:

bigred5765
27-01-2010, 04:29 PM
lol at chris

RogerM
27-01-2010, 04:39 PM
Just out of interest...why do 2WD buggies have so much castor in comparison to 4WD buggies?


It is to do with the weight transfer under drive / braking on a 2wd.

Remember what adding castor and kick up does to the handling balance ....

Also the more kick up the easier it is to get the car to ride over bumps / inclines (rather than running into them square on) but you can only run large amounts of kick up if your not applying large loads through the suspension as a by product of acceleration / braking .... a 4wd with as much kick up would be more like a nodding donkey than a race car :woot:

mikeyscott
27-01-2010, 04:44 PM
It's called pbb and you can only get it at Schumacher... Because it's not been designed with cad, phil does everything on the drawing board.

Old school design by Phil Booth, thought he would have used some modern tools.

Bit like my other half's father - very good old school designer for making food packaging machines.

The stickers need to be precut this time!

The more I look at it the more I like it, need to pursuade the Schumacher boys to come and visit our track.

frogger
27-01-2010, 04:53 PM
That is just pretty, I'll take 2 please :D

mw02veg
27-01-2010, 05:02 PM
this car is ace :thumbsup:

madmax
27-01-2010, 05:15 PM
ive got a pre order in with my local shop
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Robbiejuk
27-01-2010, 05:24 PM
http://me-or.com/images/stories/sv01%20ball%20stud.jpg

Is that a new design of Schumacher ball joint I see before me? A bit like the Jconcepts ones?

jono83
27-01-2010, 05:29 PM
I noticed that also and did start to wonder although the whole caster block/hub carrier setup does look very b4

jim76
27-01-2010, 05:38 PM
this car is ace :thumbsup:


you got yours now Grant?

mikeyscott
27-01-2010, 05:46 PM
I noticed that also and did start to wonder although the whole caster block/hub carrier setup does look very b4

Can't beat them join them...

jono83
27-01-2010, 05:55 PM
Agreed there are only so many different ways you can design a product to do the same thing

mw02veg
27-01-2010, 05:56 PM
you got yours now Grant?

Not yet but very very very soon.

Have driven it at RHR.

Mossy
27-01-2010, 05:59 PM
Yes they are new ball grippa's from Schumacher.

Si

Cooper
27-01-2010, 06:05 PM
It's called pbb and you can only get it at Schumacher... Because it's not been designed with cad, phil does everything on the drawing board.

I don't want it anymore

sly
27-01-2010, 06:07 PM
To the guys who know, are the rear wishbones handed? tub? belts or gears?

MattW
27-01-2010, 06:13 PM
To the guys who know, are the rear wishbones handed? tub? belts or gears?

Where would all the fun be if we told you that! :woot:

old jonesy
27-01-2010, 06:59 PM
Car looks very inpressive and should be awesome - even better with an all orange body shell - what do you think Jonesy
A car made in heaven for the heavenly team orange. The paint is ready.
Pete

col300
27-01-2010, 08:11 PM
A car made in heaven for the heavenly team orange. The paint is ready.
Pete

No need to wait!

http://i50.tinypic.com/14uhycl.jpg

Jonesy
27-01-2010, 08:21 PM
Col that is excellent work!!

I can see you're looking at changing your colour scheme for 2010?

coolcars782
27-01-2010, 08:35 PM
can some one please explain what the hell is "constant radius steering system"????

Fabs
27-01-2010, 08:35 PM
:eh?:

LOL

I know you guys use Pro E...

But I was told not so long ago that Phil was not using it...

BTW PPB stands for Phil Booth's Brain :thumbsup:

pat*1
27-01-2010, 08:42 PM
LOL

I know you guys use Pro E...

But I was told not so long ago that Phil was not using it...

BTW PPB stands for Phil Booth's Brain :thumbsup:
Are you sure? :confused:

IceMike
27-01-2010, 08:44 PM
No need to wait!

http://i50.tinypic.com/14uhycl.jpg


haha looks good but couple things, wrong colour orange! and you can see at the top og the so called "gear cover" that there is a body mount, think the shell goes abit further up than u have painted.

Tom3012
27-01-2010, 08:50 PM
If i read right the shell is the gear cover? :eh?:

"features a built-in gear cover for the new mid-motor layout"

mark christopher
27-01-2010, 09:01 PM
LOL

I know you guys use Pro E...

But I was told not so long ago that Phil was not using it...

BTW PPB stands for Phil Booth's Brain :thumbsup:

Fab would that then be PBB then?:p

Fabs
27-01-2010, 09:13 PM
Fab would that then be PBB then?:p

Yeah long day at work lol

Garry Driffill
27-01-2010, 09:15 PM
haha looks good but couple things, wrong colour orange! and you can see at the top og the so called "gear cover" that there is a body mount, think the shell goes abit further up than u have painted.

You're turn! :p

bigred5765
27-01-2010, 09:16 PM
mike you plonker its the same as the other pics of it every were else,cols just soloured it in some sick colour thats all lol.nice work col

MikePimlott
27-01-2010, 09:23 PM
some sick colour

is that good or bad :confused:
:p

bigred5765
27-01-2010, 09:25 PM
on this car always good

IceMike
27-01-2010, 09:40 PM
mike you plonker its the same as the other pics of it every were else,cols just soloured it in some sick colour thats all lol.nice work col

haha i know carl, just pointin out that the shell goes alot further back, and that its the wrong team orange colour. think i should know how orange it is.

the pictures make me curious of wot is under the hood. there is a little purple glint in the window! could it be part of a top deck or a battery post or a mount of some kind. oooo the suspense i wanna see more!!!

Jonesy
27-01-2010, 09:41 PM
Very good, not sick

MikePimlott
27-01-2010, 09:42 PM
haha i know carl, just pointin out that the shell goes alot further back, and that its the wrong team orange colour. think i should know how orange it is.

the pictures make me curious of wot is under the hood. there is a little purple glint in the window! could it be part of a top deck or a battery post or a mount of some kind. oooo the suspense i wanna see more!!!

It has a quick release top deck to get the cells out quick and easy ;)

David Church
27-01-2010, 09:47 PM
The car looks great!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can't wait to get mine;):thumbsup:

bigred5765
27-01-2010, 10:16 PM
haha i know carl, just pointin out that the shell goes alot further back, and that its the wrong team orange colour. think i should know how orange it is.

the pictures make me curious of wot is under the hood. there is a little purple glint in the window! could it be part of a top deck or a battery post or a mount of some kind. oooo the suspense i wanna see more!!!
lol
:thumbsup:

paranic
27-01-2010, 10:46 PM
i think i will start my 1/10 ep racing with this 2wd car!

matdodd
27-01-2010, 11:07 PM
Ok now im defo changing my 2wd!!


About time you got an X6^2 mate;)

clintscreations
28-01-2010, 06:55 AM
I'm all over the orange idea......its flo orange and pearl white for me

Oooohh yeah.....

get em boxed and on a plane

feniks
28-01-2010, 08:23 AM
well I am getting 2 no mather wat the coller may be . :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

NickC
28-01-2010, 10:57 AM
I know what you mean matt, iv just bought an x6 squared. I find it hard to belive this can be any better.

c0sie
28-01-2010, 11:01 AM
Has the Cougar been tested anywhere with any significance??

Has it been tested at any meetings?

I think it looks ace, wifey loves the purple bits which means she'll probably want one now (lol). Just curious to hear what testing has been done...if any?

CharlieF
28-01-2010, 11:42 AM
I believe there is a Utube vid of it round RHR being driven by some 12th Scale driver????

frogger
28-01-2010, 02:19 PM
Anyone know a target date for the SV to be in UK shops?

sos gaia
28-01-2010, 03:12 PM
I heard about spring, so perhaps march or april..

mikeyscott
28-01-2010, 03:29 PM
I heard about spring, so perhaps march or april..

Pretty much what Robin Schumacher said to me at Petit (beginning of the season)

tony12795
29-01-2010, 08:43 AM
No summer testing has been done. I think Si only got the car after Xmas or just before.

T

Has the Cougar been tested anywhere with any significance??

Has it been tested at any meetings?

I think it looks ace, wifey loves the purple bits which means she'll probably want one now (lol). Just curious to hear what testing has been done...if any?

niggs98
29-01-2010, 08:46 AM
No summer testing has been done. I think Si only got the car after Xmas.

T

might wanna double check that one lol

tony12795
29-01-2010, 08:57 AM
So summer testing has been done.....

Well from memory the car was not around for RHR (sorry) and that was the last national.

might wanna double check that one lol

James
29-01-2010, 09:34 AM
It had been run well before Christmas, I know because I drove it a number of times last year during testing :thumbsup:

super__dan
29-01-2010, 09:43 AM
So summer testing has been done.....

Well from memory the car was not around for EPR and that was the last national.

Urm, wasn't the last one RHR?

niggs98
29-01-2010, 09:49 AM
Urm, wasn't the last one RHR?

was thinking that lol. as ralph said the car was tested before xmas. im one of the lucky ones to of had a few laps round rhr as well:thumbsup:

Chequered Flag Racing
29-01-2010, 10:03 AM
I believe there is a Utube vid of it round RHR being driven by some 12th Scale driver????

Matt White ???

tony12795
29-01-2010, 10:12 AM
Yeah sorry RHR :rolleyes:

I think I was trying to say

"Has the Cougar been tested anywhere with any significance" and the answer is no

Tony

James
29-01-2010, 10:30 AM
Do you mean at a race meeting?
I think RHR has significance or relevance or whatever term you wish to use as there is a national there?

tony12795
29-01-2010, 10:57 AM
James, the car has not been run at any big meetings for sure it’s been tested and raced over the UK over the last few months by Si.

I took the word as “significance” meaning racing at a big meeting, like a National, Regional or a meeting with significance.
<O:p</O:p<O:p
Now leave me alone....

Chris Doughty
29-01-2010, 12:16 PM
I think the word 'anywhere' refers to a place, not an event.

but thats just splitting hairs

Jonesy
29-01-2010, 12:31 PM
James, the car has not been run at any big meetings for sure it’s been tested and raced over the UK over the last few months by Si.

I took the word as “significance” meaning racing at a big meeting, like a National, Regional or a meeting with significance.
<O:p</O:p<O:p
Now leave me alone....



Now now Tony, you just want one, admit it!!

tony12795
29-01-2010, 12:44 PM
Jonesy, I already have the best two wheel drive car......

mikeyscott
29-01-2010, 12:55 PM
Jonesy, I already have the best two wheel drive car......

Mardave Cobra ;)

James
29-01-2010, 01:12 PM
<O:p</O:p<O:p
Now leave me alone....


:eh?: ok :cry:

mikeyscott
29-01-2010, 02:46 PM
http://www.m-k-racing.com/product_info.php?cPath=1_48&products_id=7462&<osCsid>

This product will be in stock on Friday 30 April, 2010.

Northy
29-01-2010, 02:57 PM
I think it might get some some testing very very soon...... ;)

G

frogger
29-01-2010, 02:58 PM
http://www.m-k-racing.com/product_info.php?cPath=1_48&products_id=7462&<oscsid>

This product will be in stock on Friday 30 April, 2010.

Wow, it's FREE!!! :thumbsup:
</oscsid>

mikeyscott
29-01-2010, 03:09 PM
I think it might get some some testing very very soon...... ;)

G

This weekend then...

I wish I was going, but hey ho

Darren Boyle
29-01-2010, 03:34 PM
http://www.m-k-racing.com/product_info.php?cPath=1_48&products_id=7462&<OSCSID>

This product will be in stock on Friday 30 April, 2010.

Until another shop puts April 29th ;) just to try and out do each other etc........

All Marc has done is the same as the rest of us and guess at late April as Schumacher have "hinted" it will be around then (and it does not get much later in April than the 30th)

The real thing is no-one outside of Schumachers staff "actually" knows and all the guess work around price etc is pure fiction until Schumacher "officially" announce the RRP, hell they have not even disclosed the part number yet (although it is very likely to be K111 which is the next kit number in the series for them - assuming no other "kit" is released before then)

I am sure they will do their homweork and the spec, price and realese date will ALL be where they need to be for it to sell well, although my own opinion is it will be higher then existing kits such as the current B4 and XXX since these are now old hat in terms of design and technology (not saying they dont work, since they obviuosly do, but they are not "new"), things have moved on and new technology often comes at a higher price. It has with the Cat and Durango (which were more expensive than all previuos 4wd's when they came out) and i feel sure it will with the SV as the bar of what a "kit" should be and do is raised once more.......

DCM
29-01-2010, 04:00 PM
Just cause it is a new layout of 'kit', it is still only a new kit, the Cat SX wasn't exactly priced higher than the rest, and to make it £20-30 more than a B4, for the Pro spec, would be fair enough, as long as they bring out a Race spec too. What would be interesting, is to see how it will affect sales of the 'conversions'

Darren Boyle
29-01-2010, 04:13 PM
Maybe "conversions" will be "kits" soon............ ;)

And the Cat at £350 RRP was more than most others around at the time of its release.......Lazer, B44 etc

sly
30-01-2010, 10:18 AM
For the guys that know, Spurs gears. are they the same design as the cat sx?

mikeyscott
30-01-2010, 10:20 AM
For the guys that know, Spurs gears. are they the same design as the cat sx?

Hope so as I have a few RW Spurs

mark christopher
30-01-2010, 10:35 AM
plenty running at the brca indoors, looks good, some nice features

mikeyscott
30-01-2010, 10:40 AM
plenty running at the brca indoors, looks good, some nice features

How many of them racing? Pictures???!

Are they on the pace?

mark christopher
30-01-2010, 02:14 PM
How many of them racing? Pictures???!

Are they on the pace?

three mossy, cockerill and williams

yes on pace mossy taken two wins

been asked not to take any body off pics, respecting thier wishes... sorry but u need to be here to see it :p

mikeyscott
30-01-2010, 02:20 PM
three mossy, cockerill and williams

yes on pace mossy taken two wins

been asked not to take any body off pics, respecting thier wishes... sorry but u need to be here to see it :p

Awesome, well done Schumacher boys.

Shame, but fully understand. Time to preorder...

Who is there? Cragg, Martin, Stafford etc?

c0sie
30-01-2010, 02:23 PM
Mark,

Fancy drawing us a pastel painting, like they do for the court reports on the news? lol

rc boy
30-01-2010, 02:38 PM
cheers for the good news mark where abouts are cockerill and williams laying in the a final keep us updated if ya can mark haha :thumbsup:

mikeyscott
30-01-2010, 03:28 PM
Any results or live timing feeds? When do the rest of the team get the car? Good results before the toy fair

ben
30-01-2010, 04:49 PM
Awesome, well done Schumacher boys.

Shame, but fully understand. Time to preorder...

Who is there? Cragg, Martin, Stafford etc?

Craggy isnt there..

GRIFF55
30-01-2010, 05:53 PM
Niether is Lee

paranic
30-01-2010, 06:04 PM
is this theyr web page?
http://www.racing-cars.com
dont you think its a bit void?
you can download a car manual page by page in .jpeg format
was it constructed when we had 64K ISDN at home?

i belive its a bad image for those excelent cars !

gaffer
30-01-2010, 06:16 PM
The cougar looks awesome in the flesh, had chance to have a look. In the hands of Mossy it was performing very well.

mark christopher
30-01-2010, 06:25 PM
for those who have not seen it

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?p=338001#post338001
it looked good in Tom and Grants hands too! when you consider they only just got theirs and i believe tom got his late last night

Garry
02-02-2010, 12:03 PM
For those of us that weren't at Worksop, it looks like battery ALONG the length of the chassis (like B4), rather than ACROSS the width of the chassis (like X6).

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/1729/capturecw.jpg

Could that mean an offset servo (HPI Pro 3 style), and a double bellcrank? Or just a really small servo?

Someone spill the beans! :D

mikeyscott
02-02-2010, 12:05 PM
We'll all just have to wait until Thursday...

Northy
02-02-2010, 12:07 PM
I know.....








....but not telling :D

G

burgie
02-02-2010, 12:23 PM
i'm thinking the servo is mounted maybe on top of the cells, so the cells slip under the servo when installing them or maybe even facing the cells, given the depth of the front end of the car....

IceMike
02-02-2010, 12:34 PM
i'm thinking the servo is mounted maybe on top of the cells, so the cells slip under the servo when installing them or maybe even facing the cells, given the depth of the front end of the car....

given the depth of the front end, it could be mounted within the front bulkhead like the durango.

cant wait to see the car and see exactly wot it is

bigred5765
02-02-2010, 12:54 PM
hehe i know to but cant say you all be suprised and pleased when you do see it though,

mikeyscott
02-02-2010, 12:58 PM
So will we be able to pre order from Thursday? That's what I'm hoping.

pugboy
02-02-2010, 01:09 PM
hehe i know to but cant say you all be suprised and pleased when you do see it though,

Why is it such a big secret? I don't get it. :eh?:

burgie
02-02-2010, 01:10 PM
information is power.....and those who know the setup of the cougar like to think it makes them a cut above the rest of us who don't! :p

bigred5765
02-02-2010, 01:17 PM
lol at Chris, cant say because we have been told not to,it would spoil the surprise for the toy fair i guess,and as Chris said knowledge is power lmao:)

Chris Doughty
02-02-2010, 01:17 PM
I think its probably more to do with it being shown at ToyFair2010 in a few days.

why would you want the info leaked onto a forum when it could be announced at the biggest rc event of the year?

DCM
02-02-2010, 01:18 PM
I know how the front end is done, and I am loving the pic I have of the rear of the car, nice driveshafts...

mark christopher
02-02-2010, 01:19 PM
For those of us that weren't at Worksop, it looks like battery ALONG the length of the chassis (like B4), rather than ACROSS the width of the chassis (like X6).

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/1729/capturecw.jpg

Could that mean an offset servo (HPI Pro 3 style), and a double bellcrank? Or just a really small servo?

Someone spill the beans! :D

sorry but its not that lay out

given the depth of the front end, it could be mounted within the front bulkhead like the durango.

cant wait to see the car and see exactly wot it is

nope

i'm thinking the servo is mounted maybe on top of the cells, so the cells slip under the servo when installing them or maybe even facing the cells, given the depth of the front end of the car....
nope
Why is it such a big secret? I don't get it. :eh?:

as its launched officially and as we were privladged to be shown it.....

it does allow stick or saddle layouts as a teaser though!;)

pugboy
02-02-2010, 01:20 PM
information is power.....and those who know the setup of the cougar like to think it makes them a cut above the rest of us who don't! :p

Or some sort of psychology to make people more interested? It certainly went well in the hands of all the Schuey drivers at Worksop, and Mossy was going really well (even with a hole in his hand!), but any quicker than with his B4? I don't know. The main thing it has going for it is that it is (as far as I'm aware) the first 'proper' mid engined 2wd car rather than a conversion.... All this I know and you don't bull just bores me! :p

bigred5765
02-02-2010, 01:25 PM
Or some sort of psychology to make people more interested? It certainly went well in the hands of all the Schuey drivers at Worksop, and Mossy was going really well (even with a hole in his hand!), but any quicker than with his B4? I don't know. The main thing it has going for it is that it is (as far as I'm aware) the first 'proper' mid engined 2wd car rather than a conversion.... All this I know and you don't bull just bores me! :p
:p I dont think anyone other than you said i know and you dont, we both said i know and cant say, and i know but not telling,:thumbsup:those in the know have been asked to say nothing yet, thats all,

mark christopher
02-02-2010, 01:28 PM
PB was kind enoughto explain the cars design with me, and he has got some good things gone in in there, its only 2 days guys.

burgie
02-02-2010, 01:30 PM
i love the way people on this forum take a post like mine and correct it to within an inch of it's life....

I'll be back soon, I am just going to buy a wooden spoon.

Carl, you know i know and i know you know i know nothing about it!

pugboy
02-02-2010, 01:31 PM
PB was kind enoughto explain the cars design with me, and he has got some good things gone in in there, its only 2 days guys.

See Carl! There they go again! :p
I'm not even looking on principle now even when I'm 'allowed'! One sale lost!:thumbsup: When's the new Associated out?

bigred5765
02-02-2010, 01:32 PM
lol i know i just like to see you bite chris

DCM
02-02-2010, 01:33 PM
Well, I been hunting this like a big game hunter, and managed to find a nice pic....

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/news/svback.jpg

I can't tell you where I found it though.... but it is live on the web

bigred5765
02-02-2010, 01:33 PM
isn't that already out b4.1???surely you buy a car on its performance not because of a post on a forum??

burgie
02-02-2010, 01:36 PM
lol i know i just like to see you bite chris

;-) all the fun of the fair!

does anyone have a tissue handy?

pugboy
02-02-2010, 01:39 PM
isn't that already out b4.1???surely you buy a car on its performance not because of a post on a forum??

Lets be right about it you can have all the purple and gold bling you want but it won't stop me driving off the side off the table top! :thumbsup:

Joking apart it looks a cracking car and will consider buying one if I can't get my CR to steer a bit more.

bigred5765
02-02-2010, 01:41 PM
Well, I been hunting this like a big game hunter, and managed to find a nice pic....

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/news/svback.jpg

I can't tell you where I found it though.... but it is live on the web

OOOOwwww my i just messed my self:thumbsup:
Lets be right about it you can have all the purple and gold bling you want but it won't stop me driving off the side off the table top! :thumbsup:

Joking apart it looks a cracking car and will consider buying one if I can't get my CR to steer a bit more. lol im loving that quote:woot:

mark christopher
02-02-2010, 01:46 PM
See Carl! There they go again! :p
I'm not even looking on principle now even when I'm 'allowed'! One sale lost!:thumbsup: When's the new Associated out?

lol come on its a toy car... that some have seen and held...:p

elvo
02-02-2010, 01:46 PM
I know.....
....but not telling :D



'Backwards' bellcrank.

bigred5765
02-02-2010, 01:52 PM
'Backwards' bellcrank.

lol northys not that bad lmao:thumbsup:bell end may be:woot:

MikePimlott
02-02-2010, 02:03 PM
I can't tell you where I found it though.... but it is live on the web

cougar_SV :thumbsup:

found that ages ago :woot:

pugboy
02-02-2010, 02:05 PM
cougar_SV :thumbsup:

found that ages ago :woot:

Don't you start Pimlott! :thumbsup:

Spencer Mulcahy
02-02-2010, 02:08 PM
i love the way people on this forum take a post like mine and correct it to within an inch of it's life....

I'll be back soon, I am just going to buy a wooden spoon.

Carl, you know i know and i know you know i know nothing about it!

Can I have a go with your wooden spoon just tried on the other thred but spoon not big enough lol

pugboy
02-02-2010, 02:09 PM
cougar_SV :thumbsup:

found that ages ago :woot:

I suppose you have rubbed your reverse bellcrank housing on it's purple rear end too (perhaps in a 3-way with Carl) but won't tell us how it feels! :thumbsup:

lochness42
02-02-2010, 02:14 PM
....

MikePimlott
02-02-2010, 02:14 PM
I suppose you have rubbed your reverse bellcrank housing on it's purple rear end too (perhaps in a 3-way with Carl) but won't tell us how it feels! :thumbsup:

Tried to but Carl would'nt accept me at a 45 degree angle :thumbsup:

burgie
02-02-2010, 02:27 PM
Can I have a go with your wooden spoon just tried on the other thred but spoon not big enough lol

you certainly can, maybe with better effect than I have had?

bigred5765
02-02-2010, 02:32 PM
might have worked if it was a metal spoon,lol back on track cougar sv

Northy
02-02-2010, 02:33 PM
might have worked if it was a metal spoon,lol back on track cougar sv

I miss the spoon :cry:

G

Chris Doughty
02-02-2010, 02:36 PM
where is the built-in bottle opener in the rear hinge pin mount?

Barton's Cat was the savior of the Florida worlds :thumbsup:

IceMike
02-02-2010, 02:39 PM
Well, I been hunting this like a big game hunter, and managed to find a nice pic....

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/news/svback.jpg

I can't tell you where I found it though.... but it is live on the web

is it me, or does it look like there is a washer missing from the ballstuds on that pic, might just be a catch of light but it looks like its missing one

Darren Boyle
02-02-2010, 02:43 PM
Good spot! You can see that the thread of the ballstud is not as far into the nut on the side that does have the washer

Battle_axe
02-02-2010, 02:53 PM
that photo has put me right off if they can even use the same length parts left to right :P and forget there washers :P

Chris Ashton
02-02-2010, 02:59 PM
Patience is a virtue.

Soon enough the all the details will be available to everyone, not just those with too much time on their hands.

IceMike
02-02-2010, 02:59 PM
I think i know whos car it is :p i think i know someone else who runs there car like this :p sorry jeff!

IceMike
02-02-2010, 03:01 PM
Patience is a virtue.

Soon enough the all the details will be available to everyone, not just those with too much time on their hands.

Yay!! cant wait!

Quiet week for me this week and the fact that im really excited means that im checkin my emails and updates on this alot :P

Chris Doughty
02-02-2010, 03:01 PM
I think everyone has run a nascar setup on their car before, the people that say they havn't just wont admit it :woot:

DCM
02-02-2010, 04:08 PM
oh no, someone fitted a washer where it was not needed... stop production, lol....

Think that is called 'human error' or if you run an X-6, a dremmel moment, lol

IceMike
02-02-2010, 04:19 PM
oh no, someone fitted a washer where it was not needed... stop production, lol....

Think that is called 'human error' or if you run an X-6, a dremmel moment, lol


HAHAHA dremmel moment i like that

mark christopher
02-02-2010, 04:26 PM
I think everyone has run a nascar setup on their car before, the people that say they havn't just wont admit it :woot:
but where the washer is or not, its not altering anything?

Chris Doughty
02-02-2010, 04:37 PM
but where the washer is or not, its not altering anything?

come on Mark... everyone knows that 1 washer weighs more than 0 washers... :woot:

DCM
02-02-2010, 04:38 PM
but the washer is on the spur gear side, so maybe it is a bit of secret lateral weight balancing.... :woot:

IceMike
02-02-2010, 04:41 PM
HAHA that would be extreme balancing to the micro gram

Battle_axe
02-02-2010, 04:42 PM
ha love it as for the stearing is it a pushrod?

IceMike
02-02-2010, 04:44 PM
is it 4 wheel brake steer like a bobcat???

mark christopher
02-02-2010, 04:45 PM
ha love it as for the stearing is it a pushrod?
thursday...........tick tock :p

MattW
02-02-2010, 06:26 PM
LOL @ doughty and the bottle opener :thumbsup:

ashleyb4
02-02-2010, 06:38 PM
Ive seen the cougar I dont need pictures :p

A

Cooper
02-02-2010, 07:44 PM
TOM WHERE IS YOUR HAIR ?????



http://www.redrc.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/MossCougarSV-2.jpg



TOM WHERE IS YOUR HAIR ?????

big smithy
02-02-2010, 07:50 PM
Good spot! You can see that the thread of the ballstud is not as far into the nut on the side that does have the washer
dont worry about a washer missing theres more than that to be worry about ;)

mikeyscott
02-02-2010, 07:53 PM
The black one is obviously the one in the photos and from RHR

David Church
02-02-2010, 07:56 PM
For those of us that weren't at Worksop, it looks like battery ALONG the length of the chassis (like B4), rather than ACROSS the width of the chassis (like X6).

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/1729/capturecw.jpg

Could that mean an offset servo (HPI Pro 3 style), and a double bellcrank? Or just a really small servo?

Someone spill the beans! :D


Nice stickers on the wing;):thumbsup:

big smithy
02-02-2010, 07:58 PM
dont worry about a washer missing theres more than that to worry about ;)
:thumbsup:

mark christopher
02-02-2010, 08:02 PM
The black one is obviously the one in the photos and from RHR

well there clever then, they ran the car a RHR, then took pictures of it, then gave it to tom friday night brand new to race, they must have a time machine :p

bigred5765
02-02-2010, 08:07 PM
TOM WHERE IS YOUR HAIR ?????



http://www.redrc.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/MossCougarSV-2.jpg



TOM WHERE IS YOUR HAIR ?????
he left it at home,

David Church
02-02-2010, 08:10 PM
Where is the pic of the whole team?

mikeyscott
02-02-2010, 08:27 PM
Where is the pic of the whole team?

Indeed would be good to see a pic of all the A team and B team etc.

Darren Boyle
02-02-2010, 11:52 PM
:thumbsup:
Who's worried about a washer missing? I am more worried when we will get them on the shelves at the shop and sell some :thumbsup:. It will be good to have some fresh blood competing in 2wd and bring the scene fully back to life, after all the more brands involved the healthier off road racing will become!!

Looking forward to see if the Cougar (and indeed the other new cars on the Horizon) live up to all the hype over the long term and indeed most importantly, outdoors and off road.......

brookie
03-02-2010, 12:07 AM
(and indeed the other new cars on the Horizon)

Slip of the Shift key;-)

Darren Boyle
03-02-2010, 12:10 AM
No.... LOL

Durango and AC CR2 LE too :p

brookie
03-02-2010, 12:20 AM
No.... LOL

Durango and AC CR2 LE too :p

LE?
We haven't even had the SE yet!
All these new 2WD's it's almost impossible to keep up!:woot:

Darren Boyle
03-02-2010, 12:26 AM
LE?
We haven't even had the SE yet!
All these new 2WD's it's almost impossible to keep up!:woot:

Sorry my bad, I thought it was LE ("limited" edition) not SE.

Theres more rumoured to be on the way too.....AE, Losi, even Tamiya!!! It will be a VERY interesting year or so and good for the hobby with LOTS of brands about IMHO

MRD
03-02-2010, 10:42 AM
I'm looking forward to Nurmeberg, Apparently there's a new TRF so I'm hoping its the 2wd :thumbsup:.

elvo
03-02-2010, 11:31 AM
I think everyone has run a nascar setup on their car before, the people that say they havn't just wont admit it :woot:

Very true. Even A final folk.

sparrow.2
03-02-2010, 11:48 AM
Try softer pistons on the left and harder on the right. Interesting handling to say the least.

Or even better running and entire race with a B4 with one inline and one trailing steering arm. Yay.

Don't drink and drive kids. Mmmkay

JJC
03-02-2010, 02:38 PM
The wait is over :woot: Full details now on the Schuie site :thumbsup:
http://www.racing-cars.com/pp/Car_Showroom/images/cougar_undertray_FTQ_1000.jpg

c0sie
03-02-2010, 02:42 PM
Ooooh, stick packs and saddles fit. Clever :)

MK Racing
03-02-2010, 02:43 PM
All info & prices now on Schumachers site:
http://www.racing-cars.com/pp/Car_Showroom/cougar_sv.html

Chequered Flag Racing
03-02-2010, 02:50 PM
looks like they've sorted the washer issue on the inner rear ball studs :thumbsup:

any other errors that need sorting ?

IceMike
03-02-2010, 02:58 PM
I just want it even more now. stunnin guys, nice one!!

mikeyscott
03-02-2010, 02:59 PM
Very nice.

Is that Grant's car in the pic?

Question is to go for a flexible S1 or the blinged full team car.

jimmy
03-02-2010, 02:59 PM
I feel somewhat 'misled' - never mind! It looks ACE :thumbsup:

c0sie
03-02-2010, 03:06 PM
Howso Jim?

jimmy
03-02-2010, 03:11 PM
I was told to hold off until Thursday with all my (150+) photos of the car as that was THE day the car would be exposed to the world (in Nuremberg). I spent a bit of time working on the press release / gallery already and it seems a little pointless now.:( I'll still have them in the Worksop event gallery from this weekend just gone tho!:thumbsup:

Car looks SEXY - best looking 2WD of modern times? I think so.

c0sie
03-02-2010, 03:15 PM
Boo hiss!

Rest assured, if I was a manufacturer id personally hand deliver you my newly announced car to play with/review/photograph!!

Darren Boyle
03-02-2010, 03:18 PM
All four version are now uploaded to our site for pre-order also now that part numbers and prices have been confirmed.........

jimmy
03-02-2010, 09:57 PM
Any time frame on availability Darren?

Darren Boyle
03-02-2010, 10:31 PM
We recieved the same press release as everyone else today and it simply indicates as early as late March through to Mid April as an expected release. I spoke to Chris at Schumacher today also and he indicated that they "expect" the pre-built versions to be slightly after the kits (which was the same as when their other models with both "kit" and "prebuilt" variants have been released)

Kev B
03-02-2010, 11:30 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/kbishop/Bodyshells/23012010245.jpg

ben
04-02-2010, 12:02 AM
Probably being dense here.. it's late!

Do you have to dismantle most of the front end like on the fireblade to get the servo out?

MattADH
04-02-2010, 07:16 AM
I am not sure TBH but then I guess most people tend not to need regular access to their servo!

Mossy
04-02-2010, 09:36 AM
No, its only 4 screws to get to it

mdb_75
07-02-2010, 04:24 PM
Is there likely to be a Staduim Truck version of the SV anytime?

mikeyscott
07-02-2010, 04:28 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/kbishop/Bodyshells/23012010245.jpg

Love the shelll design, who's is it?

MK Racing
07-02-2010, 09:02 PM
Love the shelll design, who's is it?

Looks to me like he has painted it for Schumacher to use in their PR shots.........

MattW
07-02-2010, 10:06 PM
Correct, Kev painted the promo shell.

Ben Turner
07-03-2010, 02:02 PM
http://www.racing-cars.com/images/Technical_info/Schumacher/Current%20Cars/Cougar%20SV/Exploded%20Diagram/cougar_sv_exploded_L.pdf

Any update on this? Everything seems to be gradually coming in now :thumbsup: