NEW X6 Squared EC kit........coming soon!!

[Darren Boyle]

Well here is the news that has been promised from X-Factory HQ

The X6 Squared EC kit is on its way!!!!

The biggest news is it IS a complete kit (no wheels or tyres though), there is no longer a need for a seperate B4 donor and conversion kit (although conversion kits WILL still be sold for those people wishing to convert an existing B4) and whats more the spec of the EC will leave you with a MUCH higher grade car than before.....actually than anything!






Key features:-

New MIP C-CVD driveshafts - latest version with white delrin rings
Lunsford Punisher series titianium turnbuckles throughout as standard
Lunsford titanium broached (hex head) balljoints throughout as standard (over £55 worth!!)
Lunsford titanium hinge pins as standard
J Concepts high grade plastic ballcups throughout
J Concepts X6 Squared body and wing
New X-Factory exclusive 2 piece window masks with seperate window outline to make your own killer paint scheme easier than ever before
Carbide diff balls from the supplier of B-Fast for the smoothest diff possible
X-Factory Black anodised aluminium shims for the entire suspension - no more plastic ones to wear out and look ugly
BLue aluminium AE FT front hinge brace
AE 30 degree castor blocks included
AE B44 rear hub carriers with oversized outer rear bearings
X-Factory's unique rear hinge pin mounting system with brass bushings - simple to install, strong and with no wear
X-Factory's famously smooth 4 gear transmission for the "right" motor rotation for best forward traction, braking and control in the air (no exposed gears to wear prematurely)
New X-Factory 5210 one piece machined hardened top shaft with built in spacer (no more loose parts or poor quality top layshaft gear)
New X-Factory 5530 hard alloy slipper plates, smooth flat and consistent
New X-Factory 2601 steel front axles (stronegr than B4 alloy items)
New X-Factory 5661 long CVD axles and spacers included with the C-CVD's
X-Factory 5700 colour coded aluminium gear box height spacer for easy and precise adjustment
X-Factory 3313 Carbon Fibre rear shock tower
X-Factory 1223 Carbon Fibre LIPO ready battery strap
X-Factory 1006 Plastic "hi grip" chassis
AE FT threaded shocks front and rear with gold coated shafts
All new X-Factory instruction manual
Plus much much more............
More information and body off pictures to follow soon......

Part Number XFK021 - UK FULL RRP £349.99 ........ Estimated Available Street Price £299.95

The X-Factory X6 Squared EC is cheaper to buy than a seperate B4 and X6 conversion (£370+) and includes scores of new parts and optional parts not usually included by other brands or previously by X-Factory themselves. The car that has dominated the last two years of nationals - performance that is proven - Engineering Without Fear!

Expected in the UK 2nd/3rd week of March - Pre-orders now being taken at your local X-Factory UK dealer

[Bungleaio]

:thumbsup:

[dancoog]

WOOO HOOO!!! that is excelent!

[big smithy]

ive never seen ellis run ae shocks :cry:

[Darren Boyle]

You should watch him more closely this season then!!!

Come to think of it I have never seen the B4 owners rush to all change theirs either................. :thumbsup: ;)

[mark christopher]

sounds good that the team will be running ae shocks, i kept mine on the car!

nice one xfactory:thumbsup:

[mikeyscott]

Since getting the new bleader caps the AE shocks are fantastic.

So AE on my B4 and big bore on the Cougar and Cat :)

[Smartalec]

Since getting the new bleader caps the AE shocks are fantastic.

So AE on my B4 and big bore on the Cougar and Cat :)What not pre ordering the lower spec X6 then Mikey? ;)

[peetbee]

Come to think of it I have never seen the B4 owners rush to all change theirs either................. :thumbsup: ;)

Erm, I have Losi shocks on mine, never could get the hang of building AE shocks!:blush:

[Jackal]

Erm, I have Losi shocks on mine, never could get the hang of building AE shocks!:blush:
Oh dear so "last year":D

[DaveG28]

Erm, I have Losi shocks on mine, never could get the hang of building AE shocks!:blush:

Get Griff to build them, he did mine back in Oct/Nov and they still work great:thumbsup:

I've found them pretty good to use, tho I know downramp seems to destroy them regularly!!

[jim76]

£300 estimate without wheels and tyres? lol, that makes it nearer £330 then. Nearly £100 above the street price of the Cougar! And i haven't factored in the Losi shocks Alec!!

hope they haven't priced themselves out if it

[gerbil]

sorry this minght be really dumb but here goes does it include all the diff gears i know not a lot has been said and theres still more to come im guessing that they are but thought id ask cheers

[peetbee]

Can't now Dave, I've sold them!
Still, at least you'll know my B4, it's the only one with Losi shocks!

[chris68nufc]

Im a bit gutted that ive just recently bought my X6 squared then theres something new comes out:(

Its great how the greatest car of all can all of a sudden get greater:thumbdown:

Im probably the only person thats gutted the new one has come out.

[Tom3012]

sorry this minght be really dumb but here goes does it include all the diff gears i know not a lot has been said and theres still more to come im guessing that they are but thought id ask cheers


Its a full kit kev so everything bar wheels tires and electrics

[Tom3012]

Im a bit gutted that ive just recently bought my X6 squared then theres something new comes out:(

Its great how the greatest car of all can all of a sudden get greater:thumbdown:

Im probably the only person thats gutted the new one has come out.


Why are you gutted? The new kit is what you already have apart from a few hardware bits like the colour coded spacers:eh?:

[DCM]

I was just going to say, all they done, is put all the B4 donor parts into a kit to build out of the box, rather than the more expensive B$ + conversion route.

[GRIFF55]

[QUOTE=DaveG28;345915]Get Griff to build them, he did mine back in Oct/Nov and they still work great:thumbsup:

Youve surely rebuild them by now Dave!!!:woot:

[DaveG28]

[QUOTE=DaveG28;345915]Get Griff to build them, he did mine back in Oct/Nov and they still work great:thumbsup:

Youve surely rebuild them by now Dave!!!:woot:

Nope, still going strong :thumbsup:

[Garry Driffill]

Good work X-Factory on bringing out a full kit..

But im kinda disapointed it wasnt a 4wd :yawn:

[Smartalec]

£300 estimate without wheels and tyres? lol, that makes it nearer £330 then. Nearly £100 above the street price of the Cougar! And i haven't factored in the Losi shocks Alec!!

hope they haven't priced themselves out if it
I'm sure it's a way of getting rid of what they've got lying around before the Cougar arrives ;)
.........and if they don't sell then they can always use a couple of chassis glued together to make a short course version. The way that they throw the Associated SC10's about at PDA over the jumps I sure hope that anyone buying the SC60 gets that 50/50 guarantee in writing Jimbo :woot:

[wacattack]

Are there any differences between the ellis kit released not so long ago and this new car (apart from not needing the donor b4?)

[Smartalec]

Are there any differences between the ellis kit released not so long ago and this new car (apart from not needing the donor b4?)
It's got no Rudebits weight kit for one .............not sure about all the E speed bits though. Obviously not essentials but most of the team use them so i'd say they were useful ........... makes it quite pricey if none of that is included :(

[DCM]

reading it, I would say, it is the basic X-Factory kit

[jim76]

hmmmm, how much is the "basic" cougar?!? lol

[wacattack]

F you still need to get all those extra bits then that's one expensive car! All in it's more than any 4wd out there at the moment! :confused:

[Darren Boyle]

sounds good that the team will be running ae shocks, i kept mine on the car!

nice one xfactory:thumbsup:
Nobody said the whole team Mark, dont get carried away, Ellis is planning on using them shortly to evaluate his setups etc using AE shocks

[Darren Boyle]

£300 estimate without wheels and tyres? lol, that makes it nearer £330 then. Nearly £100 above the street price of the Cougar! And i haven't factored in the Losi shocks Alec!!

hope they haven't priced themselves out if it

Who is selling Cougars at £230 then?? Most shops are £245/250

Oh the Losi shocks routine, that old chestnut....boring...yawn :(
Makes me chuckle how every time an X-Factory thread crops up the man running a £50 low quality car "for a giggle" pops up and tells all X6 owners they HAVE to use Losi shocks to even make it work!

As far as pricing themselves out of the market, thanks for the concern, but there is no need to worry, judging by the pre-orders in the last three/four hours since it went public, sales figures look to be doing VERY well at this early stage thanks.....

Now crawl back under your rock until the next X-factory thread opens up!!!!

[Darren Boyle]

sorry this minght be really dumb but here goes does it include all the diff gears i know not a lot has been said and theres still more to come im guessing that they are but thought id ask cheers
Hi Kevin, yes all the gears are supplied in the kit, an AE diff gear, two AE idler gears and the all new machined from solid hardened X-Factory layshaft. The only other gearbox internal change is the inclusion of the B-Fast carbide diff balls for a super smooth diff!!!

[Darren Boyle]

Why are you gutted? The new kit is what you already have apart from a few hardware bits like the colour coded spacers:eh?:
There is the inclusion of the new developed and improved X-factory versions of the AE parts (slipper plates, C-CVDs, topshaft, front axles etc) but the basics of what you "end up" with are almost the same, so dont be gutted, what you have is just fine

[DCM]

Would X-Factory not be tempted to sell the basic kit and then an EU spec with all the bits to make it work, or most of them.

[Darren Boyle]

Good work X-Factory on bringing out a full kit..

But im kinda disapointed it wasnt a 4wd :yawn:
We are working on it, 2wd "kit" project had to be completed first, now this is ready, we can work on other things including our 4wd project

[blitzboy]

wow finally got a change to looka t this thread ,,, weel done x factory chazz get some rest mate its looking good guys xfactory all the way for me

[Darren Boyle]

Are there any differences between the ellis kit released not so long ago and this new car (apart from not needing the donor b4?)
Not really, the Ellis kit includes ALL of the fancy things and luxuries that ARE NOT essential, fancy blue bits, the expensive Rudebits brass weight kit, etc etc, the complete car does not have these

[Darren Boyle]

It's got no Rudebits weight kit for one .............not sure about all the E speed bits though. Obviously not essentials but most of the team use them so i'd say they were useful ........... makes it quite pricey if none of that is included :( By "ALL" the E-Speed bits you actually just mean 1 part I assume - ES001. Which we have also announced today has just come down in price by over £5 to just £14.99. The ONLY other E-Speed part even made for an X6 is ES002 (motor T-piece) which has not been used to often recently in preferance to the more flexi kit supplied plastic one to complient the new plastic chassis......

I would of liked to see the ES001 in the UK kits but I was alone when asking for this in the spec since the Japanese, USA and other European markets and distributors all have no requirement for them since they dont use them, the ES001 is the only worthwhile optional part I would imagine many people will buy from us. Since EVERY other brand has optional parts for their cars too I dont what the problem with this is. Everyone knocked our brass kit from Rudebits when it came out, now they have similiar (and FAR more expensive) sets for cars like the B4 and CR2 too and even Schumacher already have a list of Speed Secret parts ready for the new Cougar (gears, idlers, front hubs, a range of top decks, rear straps) BEFORE the car even comes out!!

[YoungChazz]

Go to bed, Darren, it's midnight, and you'll have orders to process in the AM.

For the guy who's upset about buying a Conversion Kit a few days ago, two things: First, that's always going to happen, like those who bought B3s the day before the B4 came out. But most important, your new X - 6 Squared Conversion Kit builds the same car, and if you already had a B4 you saved a lot of money. We continue to sell the K 019 conversion Kit -- D.M.S. just took anopther box of them -- and we expect to continue selling them for a long time. Your car is NOT obsolete. Unlike those B3 owners, there are lots of guys still winning with original X - 6s.

Foir those who think this is expensive, you are nuts, uninformed, can't read, or all three. (I can only talk U.S.D. here and we don't have the VAT and import duties)

The K 021 is priced about $50 less than a B4 FT+ Conversion Kit, and that's if you buy the B4 at one of the U.S. discount on-line stores. Buy the B4 anywhere else and the K 021 could save you as much as $100.

Yes, the Kit does not have wheels and tires. How many of you U.K. drivers use the yellow wheels in a Losi kit? And how many use the Holeshots that come with the B4? So you're going to buy wheels & tires anyway -- we saved the cost and didn't charge you for them.

Yes, the Kit comes with AE shocks -- the good FT threaded ones that come in the B4 FT kit. We can buy two part numbers for the AE shocks and have everything in two bags while we have to pay more in total for about 9 part numbers to do it in Losi. And no serious racer I know uses the shock oil that come in a kit -- who knows what type or weight it is?

We are not in the shock business, so Team drivers are free to use whatever shock they want. Some of them use AE already. And, please, you be the one who tells Brian Kinwald to stop using his Kyosho shocks. I don't want that job...

My personal X - 6 Squared, built a year ago, has been upgraded along the way with the 2601 front axles, 5210 top shaft, 5530 slipper plates, 5661 rear axles, then 5800 C-CVDs. I've got 30 degree caster blocks and B44 hubs & bearings. How much is all that worth? You get them all in the K 021 X - 6 Squared Kit. Plus all the Lunsford stuff including the hex-head ball studs. And the J concepts ball cups.

At $349 the K 021 saves you almost $150 over buying a new B4 + Conversion Kit + the various upgrades noted above. I won't listen for a moment to those saying it is expensive -- anyone who carefully considers what you get will immediately realize the X - 6 Squared Kit is one heck of a bargain!

Rant over.

[Darren Boyle]

reading it, I would say, it is the basic X-Factory kit We only have "one" spec, the main aims were simple, make everything in one box - no donor - that was essential. Improve on some of the (sorry to be frank here) "poor quality of recent times" AE parts that our car uses (top shaft, slipper plates, CVD bones, front axles etc) and include all of these revisions into a "Entire Car" (hence EC).

We have took this oppurtunity to add higher quality parts into the kit that you would not nomally see, the Lunsford titanium turnbuckles, the mass of Lunsford hex head titanium ballstuds (far superier to the cheap std AE ones), genuine MIP C-CVD's (not copies like some kits), J Concpets ballends (regarded as one lof the best out there), alloy precision suspension shims etc, the list goes on, but I think you get the idea.

One thing we were not fussed on was uneccassary bling, if a part was differnt purely due to fancy looks it was not aimed at this kit, improved quality (over AE parts), a "one box" purchase and refinement were the goals. We were asked to include "essentials" like the longer axles in kits, we listened, they are now there, coupled to the very latest C-CVD driveshafts. However for bling we have the "Ellis Spec" converision kit still available for "ultimate luxary"

[Darren Boyle]

hmmmm, how much is the "basic" cougar?!? lol 3 and half times the price of your Madrat, you could never afford one :p

[Darren Boyle]

F you still need to get all those extra bits then that's one expensive car! All in it's more than any 4wd out there at the moment! :confused: I think I addressed your concerns in one of my previous answers... its nowhere near that bad..only £14.99 for ES001

[Battle_axe]

3 and half times the price of your Madrat, you could never afford one :p
ahh more madrat rubbish problem is with my low cost rubbish car i beet 4 B4's and 2 X6's this weds :P

[Darren Boyle]

Would X-Factory not be tempted to sell the basic kit and then an EU spec with all the bits to make it work, or most of them. Hi DCM, I covered most of your question in my second last (I think) reply. I would LOVE to have a full blown, all bells and whistles, maximum bling version of a whole kit available, but at present it is not practical and as mentioned earlier the ONLY essential I think anyone will add is the ES001 at just £14.99, the HUGE list of needed upgrades is really no bigger than this one part for the UK tracks..... :(

[Darren Boyle]

ahh more madrat rubbish problem is with my low cost rubbish car i beet 4 B4's and 2 X6's this weds :PI never said rubbish... I choose my words carefully and only refered to its cost and not its quality as a referance to another price related swipe at one of our products. Good on you for beating those B4's and X6's, I hope you continue to do so for along time with it :thumbsup:

[Tom3012]

I wasnt having a go in my previous threads darren, far from it:)

I think this new kit is a great idea and when you think about it, worth every penny! Id buy one myself but ive got an original X6 im more than happy with:thumbsup:

[Darren Boyle]

I wasnt having a go in my previous threads darren, far from it:)

I think this new kit is a great idea and when you think about it, worth every penny! Id buy one myself but ive got an original X6 im more than happy with:thumbsup: Never said you was mate :thumbsup: Thanks for the helpful imput to the thread. At the end of the day the REAL opinion is of those who have one on order or decide to get one, and judging simply by email pre-orders and PM ones too, the number of people liking this kit and concept is FAR more than the few who dont (or who enjoy just stirring things up) which is what matters most :thumbsup:

[Darren Boyle]

Go to bed, Darren, it's midnight, and you'll have orders to process in the AM.

For the guy who's upset about buying a Conversion Kit a few days ago, two things: First, that's always going to happen, like those who bought B3s the day before the B4 came out. But most important, your new X - 6 Squared Conversion Kit builds the same car, and if you already had a B4 you saved a lot of money. We continue to sell the K 019 conversion Kit -- D.M.S. just took anopther box of them -- and we expect to continue selling them for a long time. Your car is NOT obsolete. Unlike those B3 owners, there are lots of guys still winning with original X - 6s.

Foir those who think this is expensive, you are nuts, uninformed, can't read, or all three. (I can only talk U.S.D. here and we don't have the VAT and import duties)

The K 021 is priced about $50 less than a B4 FT+ Conversion Kit, and that's if you buy the B4 at one of the U.S. discount on-line stores. Buy the B4 anywhere else and the K 021 could save you as much as $100.

Yes, the Kit does not have wheels and tires. How many of you U.K. drivers use the yellow wheels in a Losi kit? And how many use the Holeshots that come with the B4? So you're going to buy wheels & tires anyway -- we saved the cost and didn't charge you for them.

Yes, the Kit comes with AE shocks -- the good FT threaded ones that come in the B4 FT kit. We can buy two part numbers for the AE shocks and have everything in two bags while we have to pay more in total for about 9 part numbers to do it in Losi. And no serious racer I know uses the shock oil that come in a kit -- who knows what type or weight it is?

We are not in the shock business, so Team drivers are free to use whatever shock they want. Some of them use AE already. And, please, you be the one who tells Brian Kinwald to stop using his Kyosho shocks. I don't want that job...

My personal X - 6 Squared, built a year ago, has been upgraded along the way with the 2601 front axles, 5210 top shaft, 5530 slipper plates, 5661 rear axles, then 5800 C-CVDs. I've got 30 degree caster blocks and B44 hubs & bearings. How much is all that worth? You get them all in the K 021 X - 6 Squared Kit. Plus all the Lunsford stuff including the hex-head ball studs. And the J concepts ball cups.

At $349 the K 021 saves you almost $150 over buying a new B4 + Conversion Kit + the various upgrades noted above. I won't listen for a moment to those saying it is expensive -- anyone who carefully considers what you get will immediately realize the X - 6 Squared Kit is one heck of a bargain!

Rant over.
Wow, never mind me going to bed, you should go and bag up some X6 Sq EC bits in bags ready for the release instead of being on here and letting your blood boil at some of the comments etc, LOL :thumbsup:

Amongst the posts were some sensible questions, queries and ideas, these needed answering, which i have done. Pre-orders look good already (even this early) looks like you, Paul and Cecilia will be very busy in the coming few weeks.....

By the way Chazz, this new kit of ours is really expensive you know :p (I just had to)

[YoungChazz]

Blood not boiling, Darren, and I repeat: go to bed! It's after 1 AM now! At least I'm sitting here in a nice restaurant with a good roast beef sandwich.

But I do have trouble with a few who don't seem to understand the difference between X Factory and the "big" companies. Increasingly the "bigs" are selling RTR stuff made in China. X Factory sells race cars for racers, mostly made in the USA. All the plastic parts are US-made; some parts actually come out of a press operated by me! No unknown materials, no cheap molds here.

Small production runs are an advantage in many ways. For example, if we discover a problem, or come up with a better part, we can make a running change quickly. But those short runs are expensive.

Even so, we bring you the fastest cars at the lowest possible price. I can assure everybody that X Factory makes less profit per car than any of the "big" guys. Cecilia, Paul, and I want to make cars for our friends, not take all their money. That's what the Family concept is all about.

Don't get me wrong, we do OK, but X Factory truly is about Engineering Without Fear, giving you the highest quality fastest car at the best possible price. No RTR junk. I'll retire and watch bikinis on the beach in Florida first.

Don't let Cecilia see that last bit...

[Darren Boyle]

Darren, and I repeat: go to bed! It's after 1 AM now! At least I'm sitting here in a nice restaurant with a good roast beef sandwich.........


Don't get me wrong, we do OK, but X Factory truly is about Engineering Without Fear, giving you the highest quality fastest car at the best possible price. No RTR junk. I'll retire and watch bikinis on the beach in Florida first.

Don't let Cecilia see that last bit...

LOL, I promise I am off to bed now (have just updated all of tonights race results from our club racing to our website and I am done for the day now (1:43am)...... Roast Beef sandwich..sure beats what I had to eat tonight!!

As far as watching bikinis in Florida goes, sounds cool, not the best place to right somthing though if you dont want Cecilia to find out :woot: :thumbsup:

Speak to you tommorrow no doubt..........

[Danosborne6661]

Who is selling Cougars at £230 then?? Most shops are £245/250
Round about toys, £229.99.

I think it's a good idea selling the X6 as a whole car though :thumbsup:
My X6 was ace so at least peolpe don't need a B4 to start with now :D

[Cooper]

Well done X-factory, a complete car, with all the extra bits needed at a competitive price!

But I'll stick with my old rusty trusty original X6 untill it falls apart :-)

[Ben Turner]

Im a bit disappointed its not something totally brand new, but all the same its great news to see a new manufacture bringing out their first complete kit :thumbsup:

[Oxygen]

Loving the news, Loving this thread! Roll on 2010!!! :thumbsup:

[Lee Martin]

You should watch him more closely this season then!!!

Come to think of it I have never seen the B4 owners rush to all change theirs either................. :thumbsup: ;)

Really????????

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/2009national-robinhood/2wdphotos/OOP_6634.html

[jono83]

yoke shocks?

[Darren Boyle]

Really????????

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/2009national-robinhood/2wdphotos/OOP_6634.html

Lee, by "owners" I did mean the paying customers :woot:

Very handy you have replied to this thread actually, since you have put the awesome Tamiya shocks on your CR2, does that mean all CR2 owners will now ditch their Losi shocks for Tamiya ones, for the same reasons people tell us they have to have Losi shocks on an X6 to be the same as Ellis.............

At the end of the day, top drivers will run what ever parts (shocks or whatever) they need to make their car feel right for them and what they are most comfortable with.......regardless of what make of car they run.

Maybe we should start up some trading loops :woot:
Madrat owners buy up all the AE shocks from B4's and X6's, then X6/B4 owners buy all the Losi shocks from CR2/XXX owners which allows them to all go and buy Tamiya shocks !!!! LOL Everyone is happy!!!

[YoungChazz]

Everyone happy except owners of model shops, who sell no shocks...

[DCM]

The K 021 is priced about $50 less than a B4 FT+ Conversion Kit, and that's if you buy the B4 at one of the U.S. discount on-line stores. Buy the B4 anywhere else and the K 021 could save you as much as $100.

I know it makes it cheaper than how it originally would of cost, to go the X-6 route, but it still works out a lot more than a B4.

Cue argument about it being one of only 2 out of the box mid motor'd kits on the market (soon)

[Darren Boyle]

I know it makes it cheaper than how it originally would of cost, to go the X-6 route, but it still works out a lot more than a B4.

Cue argument about it being one of only 2 out of the box mid motor'd kits on the market (soon)

It is a much higher spec now than a B4 FT though to be fair with the higher quality parts used in many areas of the car as outlined in this thread already......

[Gayo]

I probably miss it but what does "EC" mean?

Nice kit by the way! Well done X-Factory:)

[/tobys]

Entire Car?

[Darren Boyle]

Entire Car?

:thumbsup:

[bigred5765]

Euro Car??

[Gayo]

Entire Car?

D'oh! Thanks :)

[Lee Martin]

Lee, by "owners" I did mean the paying customers :woot:

Very handy you have replied to this thread actually, since you have put the awesome Tamiya shocks on your CR2, does that mean all CR2 owners will now ditch their Losi shocks for Tamiya ones, for the same reasons people tell us they have to have Losi shocks on an X6 to be the same as Ellis.............

At the end of the day, top drivers will run what ever parts (shocks or whatever) they need to make their car feel right for them and what they are most comfortable with.......regardless of what make of car they run.

Maybe we should start up some trading loops :woot:
Madrat owners buy up all the AE shocks from B4's and X6's, then X6/B4 owners buy all the Losi shocks from CR2/XXX owners which allows them to all go and buy Tamiya shocks !!!! LOL Everyone is happy!!!


YAY!!!! :thumbsup:

[DCM]

Tamiya shocks are the snizzle!!

[tony6187]

Im a bit disappointed its not something totally brand new, but all the same its great news to see a new manufacture bringing out their first complete kit :thumbsup:
didnt x-factory sell the x-5 as a complete kit at one stage?:confused:

[Richard Law]

I hope i'm still on topic here?
With all the new parts listed would B4FT front ends still be usable for spares?
If you have a B4FT donor car then would it be more cost effective to sell it then buy this full kit of just buy the existing conversion kit! :confused:

[bigred5765]

i don't think they have made there own front end for the car,?? its still b4 parts just there supplying them in the kit now,imho

[mikeyscott]

I'm looking forward to seeing the results this year with the X6 / Cougar and CR2 doing the rounds. Lets also not forget B4, XXXCR RB5 etc.

Now what would make me laugh is if the B4 wins at the Euros again..

[mark christopher]

I know it makes it cheaper than how it originally would of cost, to go the X-6 route, but it still works out a lot more than a B4.

Cue argument about it being one of only 2 out of the box mid motor'd kits on the market (soon)
no pleasing some folk :p


Tamiya shocks are the snizzle!!

are they going on your SV1 and doubling the cost of it then:woot:

[mark christopher]

Nobody said the whole team Mark, dont get carried away, Ellis is planning on using them shortly to evaluate his setups etc using AE shocks
ahhh shucks...... well hope ellis stickes with them!!

[DCM]

are they going on your SV1 and doubling the cost of it then:woot:

Still be cheaper and better than the big bores!! lol

[YoungChazz]

For the guy up there about the front end: We will continue to make and sell the K 019 Conversion Kit. I think I said earlier that D.M.S. actually has another box of them on the way right now.

The new Kit contains the AE front end bits (and all the other stuff) that come from the "donor" car. It does not matter if you convert a B4 or build the new Kit -- with both you wind up with an X - 6 Squared.

The new K 021 Kit has some upgrade parts that you may not already have on your B4, but I still think that, if you already have a B4, Conversion is the less expensive route. If you want all new stuff, the Kit is the way to go.

[YoungChazz]

And yes, we did make the X - 5 Entire Car for a time. We purchased xx-4 kits, tore them apart, and re-packaged what we needed from them to make the X - 5 Squared. When they stopped making xx-4s (for the second time) we had to stop the Entire Cars.

We then sold the "extra" parts as Remainder Kits. They are gone, but we still have a few of the bits, so if you are looking for an obscure xx-4 part, check the Losi Parts section of our store. We even have the instruction manuals with WE addendum and decal sheets.

[grelland]

Once I saw the "hype" thread, I was kind of expecting something new and exciting to meet the new competition from other mid-motor cars.

Therefore I was kind of disappointed when I saw that the news was not really anything that would affect me personally anyways, as I already have an X6 with all the bells and whistles...

But when I come to think of it, what this means to me as an "established" X-factory customer, is that this will meet the market's demand for a kit, and hopefully add to the existing business, and in the long run this means that Chazz and his (small) team will hopefully be around "forever" to bring out more improvements and better products in order to keep this car a winning one.

Keep up the good work, guys :)

[tony6187]

And yes, we did make the X - 5 Entire Car for a time. We purchased xx-4 kits, tore them apart, and re-packaged what we needed from them to make the X - 5 Squared. When they stopped making xx-4s (for the second time) we had to stop the Entire Cars.

We then sold the "extra" parts as Remainder Kits. They are gone, but we still have a few of the bits, so if you are looking for an obscure xx-4 part, check the Losi Parts section of our store. We even have the instruction manuals with WE addendum and decal sheets.

thanks wasnt sure if i had imagined it or not:D keep up the good work:thumbsup:

[YoungChazz]

The Family m,akes it fun to come in to work every day. We intend to be here a long time. Thank You!

[bigred5765]

Still be cheaper and better than the big bores!! lol
You couldnt be more wrong

[ben44]

Did you know if in this "new" kit they will cancel the 2 sub C where we but the ESC.
I will happy to see this news, very goog to have a X6² complet, and whis the option part

[mark christopher]

Did you know if in this "new" kit they will cancel the 2 sub C where we but the ESC.
I will happy to see this news, very goog to have a X6² complet, and whis the option part
its the same chassis we have now?

its a full kit!

[Gayo]

Did you know if in this "new" kit they will cancel the 2 sub C where we but the ESC.
I will happy to see this news, very goog to have a X6² complet, and whis the option part

Ben : c'est le même châssis, les mêmes pièces. La différence c'est que le kit est complet, pas besoin d'avoir un B4 donneur.

[/FROGGY MODE]
:D

[ben44]

I hope they will do the same with out the 2 Sub C because when i don't used heavy with the Sub C the scootch of ESC move

[Lee]

I think this is a massive step forward for XF and well done to Chazz and Daren for their efforts. For years now people have asked when can we buy a complete car from XF and here it is finally and people are moaning. But these are not the people who will be buying it, they are either tied to other sponsors or just have no intention in buying an X6 for whatever reason, narrow minded? maybe. ;)

Not only can you buy the complete kit but they have actually improved on the inferior parts from AE because they weren't deemed good enough for the X6. We should really be praising XF for their tireless work and efforts to keep going forward. Some people dont like the cars, i personally don't know why but the results speak for themselves and nobody can deny its success on uk soil, considering it was designed for dirt :thumbsup: The other thing is that people will always try and pull things apart when a new product is released, especially if it is a small company, if it was an AE/Xray or Schumacher then everyone would be nursing a semi if they had taken a step like this, but if you look at the quality in products over the last few years with AE then they have gone rapidly down hill where as XF has gone the opposite way and the quality from the original X6 to the squared is worlds apart. Also take a look at the Cat SX, it looked great in Mossy;s hands during testing etc but when it went out to the Normo's it was a bit of a handful with numerous people giving up on it after not much time at all, some very good drivers too :D then there was the outdrive issue :confused:

People shouldn't really knock something until you have tried it, for £300 i really doubt you will get a better spec'd car :thumbsup:

Well done gents :D

[dickie]

Apologies if this has already been posted, but when will the JConcepts shell be available?

Thanks

[MattADH]

Apologies if this has already been posted, but when will the JConcepts shell be available?

Thanks

Correct me if I am wrong but I think that the standard X-6 Squared body is made by JConcepts. I believe that Chazz, Darren, etc are highlighting the quality and reputation of using JC for the body.

[Darren Boyle]

Matt, is quite right the bodyshell is the X6 Squared body made and produced for X-Factory by JConcepts :thumbsup: although the new kit will feature some all new two part window masks which allow people to easily spray coloured window surrounds simply, even with just spray cans!!!

[B-Fast R/C]

Hi Kevin, yes all the gears are supplied in the kit, an AE diff gear, two AE idler gears and the all new machined from solid hardened X-Factory layshaft. The only other gearbox internal change is the inclusion of the B-Fast carbide diff balls for a super smooth diff!!!

B-Fast supplied the name of a manufacturer that makes precision balls.
That is all.

Fred Bellito
B-Fast R/C

[Darren Boyle]

Hi Fred, hope things are good for you at the moment! I have misquoted from the original press release, I guess it should read then - "same supplier as B-Fast" diff balls (which I guess makes them the same as yours but with some free advertising for you too :thumbsup:) apologies for any confusion caused and I hope the free publicity does you no harm.....

[YoungChazz]

I'm sorry too, Fred. I thought we had been quite clear in our press release and did not catch the error above.


To make sure everybody knows: B-Fast was good enough to give us the name of his diff ball supplier. We have contacted that supplier and are buying our diff balls from them. They will be the same as are supplied to B-Fast.

B-Fast itself has nothing to do with our products. X Factory appreciates Fred's helpfulness -- he is one of the really good guys in R/C. It is a pleasure meeting Fred and talking with him at various races.

[Alex H]

this is how a X-6 should look like.....

Its in Swedish but I think you know what I mean by the pictures;)

http://rc10b4.blogspot.com/search/label/X6

[MHeadling]

That X6 is awesome Alex, good skills who knocked that up!

[dickie]

Correct me if I am wrong but I think that the standard X-6 Squared body is made by JConcepts. I believe that Chazz, Darren, etc are highlighting the quality and reputation of using JC for the body.

Ah right cheers, thought it didn't look much different :blush:

[Alex H]

That X6 is awesome Alex, good skills who knocked that up!

Yes It is and the guy who is the daddy to that is lars jonsson. Respected driver up here and mad skills in the designing department. Think he got inspired with my mid Ultima project I had some time ago;). Can see some resemblance, but he did it even better.:D. He was looking at it rather carefully on a meeting we had.

[B-Fast R/C]

Hi Fred, hope things are good for you at the moment! I have misquoted from the original press release, I guess it should read then - "same supplier as B-Fast" diff balls (which I guess makes them the same as yours but with some free advertising for you too :thumbsup:) apologies for any confusion caused and I hope the free publicity does you no harm.....

You need to change the XFactory.UK site also. The car contains no B-Fast parts. Even the best diff balls will not overcome the shortcomings of stock diff rings. The "smoothest diff possible" comes from the rings. As far as "free advertising" having my company tied to a basicly stock diff is not what I wish.

[V-Rossi]

And we all know the smoothest diff possible elevates people into Worlds A finals!

[Darren Boyle]

You need to change the XFactory.UK site also. The car contains no B-Fast parts. Even the best diff balls will not overcome the shortcomings of stock diff rings. The smoothest diff possible comes from the rings. As far as "free advertising" having my company tied to a basicly stock diff is not what I wish.
Your wish is my command Fred although the X-Factory UK site currently states no different to the official press release!! (I amended all spelling/wording errors I made yesterday :cry:) If this is still "worded" wrong you need to take that up with Chazz I'm afraid.........

Pherhaps we should of just used the excellent Vampire Ceramic diff balls :thumbsup: in the kits as I suggested !! :eh?:

[B-Fast R/C]

Your wish is my command Fred although the X-Factory UK site currently states no different to the official press release!! (I amended all spelling/wording errors I made yesterday) If this is still "worded" wrong you need to take that up with Chazz I'm afraid.........

Pherhaps we should of just used the excellent Vampire Ceramic diff balls as I suggested !!

Thanks for removing B-Fast from the list of manufactures included in the kit. It was not "worded" wrong, should never have been included. I have heard good things about the Vampire balls.

Thanks again
Fred

[GRIFF55]

Do you make diff rings then Fred/bfast? Have you got a web link to these if so please?
thanks

[Darren Boyle]

Griff, Fred's B-Fast website is www.bfastrc.com (http://www.bfastrc.com) they make some of the finest diff rings known to man!!!!

[GRIFF55]

thanks Darren:thumbsup:

[Chris Griffiths]

Just ordered the diff rings and carbide balls off bfast. Cant wait to give them a whirl

[YoungChazz]

Fred does the rings personally, one at a time. He then uses an high quality ball and the result is amazing. As Fred said above, it's 99% the ring, and, I will add, Fred's talent and hard work. A B-Fast diff will be the smoothest you have ever even thought about, and properly adjusted & maintained will last far longer than a "normal" diff.

[Chris Griffiths]

Fred does the rings personally, one at a time. He then uses an high quality ball and the result is amazing. As Fred said above, it's 99% the ring, and, I will add, Fred's talent and hard work. A B-Fast diff will be the smoothest you have ever even thought about, and properly adjusted & maintained will last far longer than a "normal" diff.


Still a need to sand the diff plates?


Chris

[mark christopher]

Still a need to sand the diff plates?


Chris
if you read dis site he does all that, you just build it

[Darren Boyle]

£300 estimate without wheels and tyres? lol, that makes it nearer £330 then. Nearly £100 above the street price of the Cougar! And i haven't factored in the Losi shocks Alec!!

hope they haven't priced themselves out if it

Looks like you had not done your homework too well, since Schumacher have also decided the way forward is to NOT include tyres in their 2wd kit either, wheels yes, but no tyres.

I agree with Schumacher on this since you can NEVER supply tyres to suit everyones preffered track surface, this is the very reason the X6 Sq EC does not have them too, we also decided to NOT include wheels since if you supply yellow they will want white, if you supply spoked they will want dished, the manufacturer is in a no win situation.........

[Chris Doughty]

we also decided to NOT include wheels since if you supply yellow they will want white, if you supply spoked they will want dished, the manufacturer is in a no win situation.........

I think everyone has learned that yellow wheels are terrible and should not be supplied with any car. :p

and why would anyone want spoked wheels!? :woot:

being serious now, wheels/tires are consumable/disposable items

seems like every manufacturer has their snipers. from what I can see is that there is another 'full' kit on the market, happys days :thumbsup:

I dream of the day when we can all enjoy and get excited about new things coming out in the RC world and constant improvements that are going on and leave the handbags on the left near the coat stand and shoes.

[Darren Boyle]

I think everyone has learned that yellow wheels are terrible and should not be supplied with any car. :p

and why would anyone want spoked wheels!? :woot:

being serious now, wheels/tires are consumable/disposable items

seems like every manufacturer has their snipers. from what I can see is that there is another 'full' kit on the market, happys days :thumbsup:

I dream of the day when we can all enjoy and get excited about new things coming out in the RC world and constant improvements that are going on and leave the handbags on the left near the coat stand and shoes.


Well said mate.......

[usafaircrew]

Yellow spoked rims are .1 second faster per lap over white rims!:thumbsup:

[Darren Boyle]

Yellow spoked rims are .1 second faster per lap over white rims!:thumbsup:
Oh dear :cry: ........... :woot:

[Chris Doughty]

Yellow spoked rims are .1 second faster per lap over white rims!:thumbsup:

maybe, but once you put tyres on those white rims, it will be miles faster! :p :thumbsup:

[lochness42]

maybe, but once you put tyres on those white rims, it will be miles faster! :p :thumbsup:

Pwned :woot: :thumbsup:

[Richard Law]

Any news on a release date yet for both uk and usa,

[Darren Boyle]

2 to 3 weeks is still on the cards for our shipment here (plus any time stuck in UK customs of course). The kits are all being released globally at the same time too....

[Richard Law]

Thanks DMS
are they all the same spec/setup for all countrys?

[Darren Boyle]

There is only the one spec and they will be the same worldwide......

[chris68nufc]

When is the next 2WD going to be released from XFactory?
I need to refresh my X6 squared however dont fancy getting a new one just for a new design to come out??

[Darren Boyle]

Hi Chris, the "next" one is the the EC, in two weeks time, if you mean the next "concept" (ie nothing like an X6 SQ) then a LONG time away (not even in our thoughts at this stage)

The original X6 (3 gear) came out several years back, followed by the updated X6 three and half years ago (4 gear tranmission etc). The Squared conversion then hit our shores early 2009.

Since the Squared was released there have been no major changes, although you can now buy the car in three seperate ways
1. The original "X6 Squared" conversion kit
2. The "Ellis Stafford X6 Squared Champioship Edition" conversion kit
3. The "X6 Squared EC" entire kit

All three end up as the self same thing when built, we continue to sell number 1 (std conversion) for those still with B4's who simply wish to convert over, number 2 (the Ellis kit) was released to celebrate his two back to back UK titles with the X6 platform, it features lots of the bling and high end aftermarket parts that are available today (if the ultimate is your preferance and bling is your thing) and now number 3 (the entire kit) for the first time X-Factory buyers can buy the whole car in a box without the need to convert or to have a donor car.

The X6 Squared has no plans to be changed for at least the 2010 or 2011 seasons.

[chris68nufc]

Tremendous. Somebody told me that there was another car planned (2WD) after the EC kit. Im well up for getting the new kit but after i heard 'the rumour' i was a bit put off.

Ive got a used X6 squared that goes pretty well but it could do with being replaced i suppose for the outdoor season.

Thanks for the reply.

[mark christopher]

chris

id put money on that as Xfactory have a competitive 2wd thats winning , and no 4wd, its not a 2wd that would be due!

[Darren Boyle]

Tremendous. Somebody told me that there was another car planned (2WD) after the EC kit. Im well up for getting the new kit but after i heard 'the rumour' i was a bit put off.

Ive got a used X6 squared that goes pretty well but it could do with being replaced i suppose for the outdoor season.

Thanks for the reply.
You dont know how hard it has been to get this 2wd project done!! This has been MANY months in the planning stage with LOTS of discussion, thoughts and ideas along the way from all corners of the globe. As Chazz first wrote a few weeks back now, this is the biggest thing X-Factory have taken on as a project yet!!!

However, maybe there is another car coming after the X6 EC (not saying how soon though), but maybe it is not 2wd!!!! :thumbsup:

[chris68nufc]

New 4wd just bought. Im out of that sales pitch!!

Thanks anyway:thumbsup:

[RS Concept]

Hi guys,

Sven Rudig supplied such kind of "EC" version.

Means he took the parts from B4 FT and put in a box with the X6 SQ conversion kit. It was a nice service for customers,,, but actually he canceled this stuff- too much work with repacking.

I was the last guy who received this "EC" kit,,,, the car is GREAT!!!!!!!!!!

and yes,,, with white rims the EXSEX is much much faster:D

[Darren Boyle]

The X6 Squared EC gets ever closer and is now just over a week away from being shipped from the USA, just in time for an end of March release (despite a few minor last minute problems).... :thumbsup:

The latest update to come from the factory today has arrived in the form of a video from the X-Factory You Tube channel, showing a step by step picture illustration of the car going together.

It uses the pictures taken for the instruction manual and strings them altogether in a step by step slide show....

DcE8ccyjWew

[Richard Law]

Any news on a release date yet? :D

[chris68nufc]

Thats exactly what i was thinking.
Rich Lowes looked good today at Worksop, even with Associated shocks on!

I need 2 for asap!

[Richard Law]

AE shocks didnt seem to bother him one bit, hope the shafts are better than the ones on my B44, Brittle is a understatement!
I'd got 17th March in my head for release date, so cant be far off?

[Darren Boyle]

Any news on a release date yet? :D
I have a long distance phone call planned for later this evening with Chazz to confirm the current status of the kits but the last news i had was that they were bagging up the kit contents bags over the weekend and bags 1 through to 6 or 7 were completed for the first batch leaving just just 2 or 3 bags left (of the nine in each kit) to do the early part of this week. The manual is almost complete and is on its way to the printers as we speak and the box labels are being finished as we speak also, so HOPEFULLY the first batch of kits should be ready to leave the USA later this week, we originally hoped for 2nd or 3rd week of March but have had a slight delay with two parts causing us to now be looking at between 24th/26th if all goes well, but I will know more for certain and confirm after this evening.......

[Darren Boyle]

As for Rich Lowe and running the AE shocks :woot: How on earth does the car even move with them on?? (If you believe what some people say about our car) I am glad Rich went well with his X6 Sq EC yesterday and conntinues to prove that our car works just as well with whatever shocks our team drivers choose to use........

[blitzboy]

looking good darren must say richard s x6 looked good all day yesterday and i waqs also impressed with his set up he was running too ,,, not the usual and really looked good

[YoungChazz]

Darren is right on. I have some hope that the first ones will be out the door Friday or Saturday.

Back to work...

[YoungChazz]

If I take the attitude that this is what makes this business interesting, I manage to survive.

This is going to be the best manual we have ever produced, with the best pix. The printer is taking our color pix and setting them up to print better in B & W -- we expect much sharper, clearer images.

Gave the printer the first batch of pix Monday AM. He was going to do whatever it is he does and get the back to me this afternoon, and I was to give him the second half. He called about 2.

It appears he has lost them. Not a major problem, because I still have them, but we're set back a day on the manual. He had bags A - F and I was going to pick up those pix while giving him G - I. Now I'll just give him all on Wednesday and hope he can do them tomorrow afternoon and give them back tomorrow evening so we can put them in the manual and add the arrows.

Then back to him on Friday morning and we'll see how fast he can print...

[lochness42]

Is going manual from Limited edition to be online?

[Darren Boyle]

Is going manual from Limited edition to be online?
If you mean from the manual "Ellis Stafford converison" kit, then I doubt it very much, only the standard manual will go online at a guess.....

[YoungChazz]

The manual that will be online will be the standard manual for the K 021 Kit.

[lochness42]

If you mean from the manual "Ellis Stafford converison" kit, then I doubt it very much, only the standard manual will go online at a guess.....

Oh well, I just remember myself asking about this before and I've received following answer from Chazz.

The addendum will probably go on line shortly after the first of the year. Paul, who is doing much of the web work in addition to his other duties, is up to his eyeballs in engineering work and is taking several days off over Christmas to be with the family.

So as long as it won't be published on xfactory webpage - if anyone has Ellis Stafford kit and is willing to scan addenum, I will be more than happy.

[Darren Boyle]

I think this was before the final plans for the "EC" were out though and much of the detail from Ellis's conversion has made its way into the EC manual now.....

[YoungChazz]

D.M.S.' first batch of K 021 X - 6 Squared Kits were shipped this morning. We are putting together the first batch of Kits for Team AJ in Japan today and they will leave Monday AM. Things get through Japan customs much faster than U.K. so the two primary X Factory distributors will have their Kits at about the same time.

These Kits were shipped with no instruction manuals because the books are not yet ready from the printer. The Kit boxes were closed with a single piece of tape so the contents will not spill out (They are tight in their shipping cartons.) and the box labels were included with the shipment. When the manuals are ready we will express them to D.M.S. and AJ; they will insert the manuals, seal up the boxes and apply the labels. With any luck, the express manuals will arrive about the same time as the Kits and all will be good.

Dealers in other countries will be shipped as soon as the manuals are ready, then the K 021 goes on our web site. So dealers will be shipped late next week, and it should be on our site about April 5. Fastest way to get an X - 6 Squared Kit is from your local model shop.

[Darren Boyle]

Sounds good Chazz, I will start tracking the cartons across their journey from Monday onwards.

Tricky to predict this early their expected arrival date with two holiday days next weekend, but I would imagine we should be looking at as early as the 6th April for their arrival with us and possibly up to 7 days after that with UK Customs and Easter etc

[YoungChazz]

Everything is here, packaged, and ready to go, except the instruction manual.

We have been using this printing company for several years now, and they have taken care of us well. Great service and excellent prices. We gave them the PDFs for the manual last Tuesday. We expected to get a proof copy the next day and, if it was good, have manuals in our hands April 1 or 2. Tuesday afternoon one of their largest customers surprised them with a many-pages color project which required over 10,000 copies, and it had to be done by April 2.

Little X Factory was put on hold...

We expect to have the manuals late next week.

In the meantime D.M.S.s initial order was shipped a few days ago with the boxes closed by just one piece of tape and the labels in the shipping box but not on the Kits. As soon as we have the manuals they will be shipped express to U.K. and Darren will put them in the Kits, seal up the boxes, and apply the labels.

Team AJ in Japan has requested Kits with the instructions on CD, not printed, and those Kits will go out first thing Saturday AM.

We hope to ship dealer orders next Friday and Saturday, and put the K 021 Kit on the web site Monday April 12. As always, you can get the Complete Car first from your local hobby store. If your local shop does not stock X Factory, ask the manager to contact us

[YoungChazz]

Team AJ has now received their Kits, and Mike-san is working hard to translate the manual and produce a Japanese version.

The following press release was sent to media outlets (including oOple) yesterday:


X – 6 SQUARED KIT SHIPPING TO DEALERS

The new X Factory X – 6 Squared Kit is shipping to dealers today. This is the first time X Factory has sold the entire X – 6 Squared. The new K 021 includes all the genuine AE parts needed to build an X – 6 Squared and, of course, all the great X Factory parts as well. This is the most complete and extensive Kit X Factory has ever done.

Squared Kits were shipped to X Factory importer/distributors last week, and they are already shipping Kits to their model shop customers. Now X Factory is shipping to its direct dealers in other countries all over the world.

“Dealer demand has been more than we expected,” said X Factory spokesman Chazz, “and we have been forced to re-order the AE parts already. Final orders from dealers are still coming in and we are shipping as quickly as possible.

“The Kits have been ready to ship for over two weeks, but the instruction manual has been the sticking point. We experienced an unfortunate delay as a customer much bigger than we took up their press time with a huge order. But our manuals are printed now, and we have enough manuals in this first order for several months’ sales.”

As always, customers will get the new X Factory Kits most quickly from their local hobby store. The K 021 Kits should go on X Factory’s web site later this week.

[YoungChazz]

Pix were sent with the release:

[YoungChazz]

For the U.K. Family, D.M.S. has a supply of X - 6 Squared Kits now, and the printed instruction manuals are in U.K. customs as I write. The Distributor Family was shipped first, and I understand some U.K. model shops have K021 Kits now.

The following was posted a few minutes ago on another forum board, and applies to those living outside U.K. or Japan:



Last of the Dealer orders went out the door today, so Paul is going to turn the Kit loose on the web site this weekend.

Dealer demand has been incredible, and we have far fewer Kits left than we thought we would. You can imagine that way back in October we tried to gauge demand and ordered the AE parts + lots of other stuff. That means we can only make X number of Kits with the parts we have. Meanwhile, the Dealer Family has expanded greatly. More parts have been ordered already and all the X Factory parts will be delivered very soon, but some AE parts are on back order.

So, we don't have as many for web site retail sales as we wanted to have -- bad -- but we sold lots more to dealers than we expected -- good. As you can see, if your local hobby store in an X Factory Dealer, fastest way to get your X - 6 Squared Kit is through him. If your local shop does not carry X Factory, ask the manager to contact us.

Keep careful watch on the site. If you want an X - 6 Squared Kit, get in quick before they are gone.

[YoungChazz]

I posted this on another web site, so wanted to put it here. U.K. drivers especially should know that D.M.S. has had their K 021 Kits for over a week, and that their Kits do not yet have printed instruction manuals. The manuals were sent about a week ago and we think they are in customs. We think they arrived in U.K. before the volcano, but have no idea how long customs will take now. If you want a K 021, some of the model shops have them, and some are waiting for the manuals. The manual is available from our site online to download or just look at while building. I'm sure any U.K. shop will sell you an X - 6 Squared Kit now without the manual and give the the book when it arrives.

The post, put here mostly for those not living in U.K.:

Check our web site now for the new X - 6 Squared Kit, ready to purchase on line at last. Part of the reason for the delay is that Paul has greatly improved and updated the info on the site, which took about two days.

Remember that hobby stores were shipped last week, so if your LHS is an X Factory dealer, the quickest way to get the new Kit is through him. Even in Europe, where some dealers' Kits have been "volcanoed," the stores will have the new Kits first. If your LHS does not stock X Factory, ask the manager why and tell him to contact us. [email protected] will get the ball rolling.

You may notice that both Conversion Kits are on backorder. We are out of motor plates, and stole every one we could from the Conversions to make the new K 021 Kits. But the plates have been shipped, and should be here Thursday, so Conversion Kits will be back in stock very soon.

[Darren Boyle]

I posted this on another web site, so wanted to put it here. U.K. drivers especially should know that D.M.S. has had their K 021 Kits for over a week, and that their Kits do not yet have printed instruction manuals. The manuals were sent about a week ago and we think they are in customs. We think they arrived in U.K. before the volcano, but have no idea how long customs will take now.

Our consignement was on a flight inbound from Chicago in the early hours of Thursday morning and due to land in the UK mid afternoon our time, well as we all know, NO flights landed beyond 12pm on THursday, so we believe the flight was re-routed elsewhere :confused:, just not sure where???

UK customs at present cannot confirm the exact whereabouts of the shipment and their best guess is that is is being transported back to the UK now via road and rail networks :thumbdown:

So for the time being we will have to continue with the online version of the manual and stores will still have acess to "instruction-less" kits for the interim period.........

[andyc]

Do you have any full kits in stock? getting really sick of waiting for the couger.

[sime46]

Try Andy at PBM racing dude. I saw one in his shop yesterday.

[Darren Boyle]

Do you have any full kits in stock? getting really sick of waiting for the couger.

Yes they are in stock and have been for nearly two weeks now, as Sime has said many of our dealers have cosen to take kits already and in sitting in stock on the shelves of several of them, waiting for your call (the kits have been released without manuals at present - which are stuck somwhere between here and Chicago due to the recent flight troubles -, but they are online to see or download)

[ian h]

Do you have any full kits in stock? getting really sick of waiting for the couger.

+1 here, patience is wearing thin now and my curiosity is fading fast. New X6 to replace my existing 1 could be the way to go!

[Darren Boyle]

Well I am sure Schumacher have their reasons guys, but........

"IF" any of you do fancy having the car that has won the last two years national 2wd titles and has already TQ'd the first round at this years, it is here already and on the shelves of the dealers ready and waiting for you right now.... :thumbsup: