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daz
27-03-2006, 06:07 PM
Just a few daft questions. Been speaking to a few of the top lads and they reckon to use ballistic tyres at kiddy. Dont mind that at all but is it true that only one set last a run? And how much slower would schumacher tyres be? I would like to ask this question to the lessor experienced person like my self who is only a cheeky F4. And what sort of wear rate on them be..

jimmy
27-03-2006, 06:32 PM
Last year was my first time at kiddy tbh and i ran 2 practices, 4 heats and a final on the one set of green ballistics. They were quite literally bald and with holes in by the end and the grip had just about gone by the final.
That was in 2wd, they were very worn on the front also like..
I reckon i'll get a set for the 2 and a set for the 4, no more, take it easy early on in practice to save them and then go for it in the first few rounds and see what happens for the final..
other way is to try scrounge some from a top driver who is runnin a set a run! :)
I dint feel any real lack of grip until my final.

daz
27-03-2006, 06:38 PM
cool cheers for that jimmy.. By the way i like the red hair i think il do the same to hide my grey perhaps a blue rinse

niggs98
27-03-2006, 06:42 PM
ive done the last 2 meetings there in 4wd and am getting 2 runs from a set, to really stay on the pace, u can run them longer but the car tends to slide after that.

daz
27-03-2006, 06:51 PM
think i will get 2 sets for each class. Dont mind that its just one set per run makes it a very expensive weekend

PaulRotheram
27-03-2006, 06:52 PM
2 runs? i dont think ill be gonig to kiddy any time soon with little money i have :D

OldTimer
27-03-2006, 07:44 PM
I was up there when niggs98 was there, it was very wet, so i used pink minipins which weared well and still looked ok, but for the last round and finals i put some greens on, and there was so much more grip.

A lot depends on the track layout, if they use a lot of the tarmac it just rips the tyres to bits. It depends on how serious you are, to be honest three sets would be ideal, if i had got in that was what i intended to use at the 4wd national, i am no F1 but i want to do ok, and i don't want to be thinking after the meeting, if i had just used another set i could of been ?.

Set 1 - Practise and Round 1
Set 2 - Round 2 & 3
Set 3 - Round 4 & Finals

jimmy
27-03-2006, 07:57 PM
Its pushing it running 1 set, I think 2 sets will be ideal if you arent too serious, they do still grip when they are well worn from my experience, just loose the edge tho i guess..
loadsa grip tho.
I'll be running 1 set just because i am uber cheapo... Cheers Daz btw! mi hair is proper vivid and visually offensive now, I like it, plus vicky can spot me in a crowd.

PaulRotheram
27-03-2006, 08:47 PM
jimmy, you need a parental advisory sticker for your hair!!

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/nif20064wd/imagepages/batley4wd24.html

daz
28-03-2006, 04:28 PM
cheers for the advice guys !!!!

Stu
28-03-2006, 08:58 PM
There will be alot of drivers using one set per run if it's dry.
Depending how cheeky you are you can often do a bit of scrounging of part-worns.
You may need to keep your supplier in tins of beer for the weekend, that's cheaper than the treads.

niggs98
31-03-2006, 12:14 PM
Last year was my first time at kiddy tbh and i ran 2 practices, 4 heats and a final on the one set of green ballistics. They were quite literally bald and with holes in by the end and the grip had just about gone by the final.
That was in 2wd, they were very worn on the front also like..
I reckon i'll get a set for the 2 and a set for the 4, no more, take it easy early on in practice to save them and then go for it in the first few rounds and see what happens for the final..
other way is to try scrounge some from a top driver who is runnin a set a run! :)
I dint feel any real lack of grip until my final.

sure stu n i will have a spare set for ya zx5 if u r running it jim

jimmy
31-03-2006, 12:20 PM
Cheers ! I will do mate if I can find some rear hubs, I just have one broken on it at the moment which ive still to fix, I'll have a look round on the 2wd day and get it fixed up.

emzy
31-03-2006, 03:40 PM
One week one week!!

jimmy
31-03-2006, 03:51 PM
2 days and were racing in teessdale and my b4 is still in bits :rolleyes:

Northy
31-03-2006, 04:24 PM
Don't worry Jimmy, mine too! It's all laid out in front of me!

BUT, I have a strage desire to visit the pub tonight...... :jimmeh (no drinking smilie, can we get that sorted Jimmy?)

G

jimmy
31-03-2006, 04:26 PM
:drunken:

theres a drunken one !? :jimmeh

emzy
31-03-2006, 08:30 PM
My B4 MIGHT be built... I haven't seen it since Telford National... and Dad's used it a few times since then!

niggs98
02-04-2006, 06:14 PM
Cheers ! I will do mate if I can find some rear hubs, I just have one broken on it at the moment which ive still to fix, I'll have a look round on the 2wd day and get it fixed up.

not a prob i have a couple spare since i went to the alloy ones :P

emzy
06-04-2006, 02:49 PM
Wow kids... its Kiddy tomorrow! It feels like only yesterday that I was staggering round Telford in flip flops...

jimmy
06-04-2006, 02:56 PM
No more of that emz, with the new brca EMZY RULE tm

Check you out nathan, with your fancy alloy! Might come see :)

Stu
06-04-2006, 04:06 PM
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/racenorthwest/weather.jpg
Looks like the weather people are covering every eventuality.

daz
06-04-2006, 04:26 PM
weather looks good gonna be chilly for camping best get drunk before sleeping, me thinks.....

jimmy
06-04-2006, 04:55 PM
wise advice! :drunken: Beer coats!

Stu
06-04-2006, 04:55 PM
First national last 'summer' it snowed on friday aftenoon.
If you can get past the stigma of being a pikie (not sure on the spelling) caravans rule.

Mrs oOple
06-04-2006, 05:43 PM
I can't wait to test out our new tent for warmth... along with the three sleeping bags and two double duvets that we are taking! And of course the beer coats (or vodka/bacardi breezer coats as the case may be).

Looking forward to my first national, and being a featured RRCI / oOple driver.
Just ask Jimmy for my set-up.

daz
06-04-2006, 06:05 PM
is there any pubs nearby, as in staggering distence????

Northy
06-04-2006, 06:08 PM
When you getting there Jimmy? We're not leaving here till 5pm tomorrow! :(
ETA at Kiddy 8.30pm! By that time I'll need a drinking partner! :D

jimmy
06-04-2006, 06:09 PM
All being well setting off quite early, 1/2pm but with the way things usually go with us could be much later! :D

Northy
06-04-2006, 06:12 PM
So who fancies a beer when Julie and me get there?
Its a given that Stu and Dammo will.... :puker:

Stu
06-04-2006, 06:19 PM
Aye.
We'll be pitched behind the hedge on the edge of the football pitch, overflow caravan site.
The pub is about 15-20 mins walk, but we'll be bringing our own.

Oh yeah G, whats this about you being a very slow driver, boxed in traffic or something?

jimmy
06-04-2006, 06:22 PM
Your own pub ? blimey, that IS a big caravan int it!

daz
06-04-2006, 06:23 PM
cool do u serve guiness?

Stu
06-04-2006, 06:25 PM
Beer on sale at asda.

I've packed the car, no room for any racing stuff unfortunatly, oh well.

Drinks range is,
John Smith's
John Smith's
or
John Smith's

After Batley 2004 its all I'm allowed.

Northy
06-04-2006, 06:28 PM
Aye.
We'll be pitched behind the hedge on the edge of the football pitch, overflow caravan site.
The pub is about 15-20 mins walk, but we'll be bringing our own.

Oh yeah G, whats this about you being a very slow driver, boxed in traffic or something?

Will you still be in "ya ma's van" when we get there at 8.30 ish? :D

Yeah, what a pussy I am, getting boxed in traffic doing over 85 on soaking wet roads.... I'll go spank myself now ma'am! :o :elephant:

Cockerill
06-04-2006, 06:31 PM
are you camping Graham?

WHITTLER555
06-04-2006, 06:32 PM
Did someone say John Smiths!!??

Yes the Whittle/Evans bar will be open, although I probably won't be there till its going dark and will need a couple of beers just to remember how to put the awning up so the pub can open!!


G, you will notice the Evans/Whittle clan have an exclusion zone around us this year, I am still not popular for the F3,4,5 meeting in Worcester in 2001?:o

Anyone for a bit of FAT HARRY WHITE!!

MMMMMMM BABY!!:D

Stu
06-04-2006, 06:33 PM
We'll be about somewhere.
Our vans will be seperated from the main throng a bit and it'll be a bit anti-social to sit in watching telly with the wives all evening.

Northy
06-04-2006, 06:38 PM
Yeah camping :o

What happened in 2001?

Any plans for Saturday night? It's mi Julie's birthday on Sunday! She's well happy :rolleyes:

Random smillie... :tiesto:

Stu
06-04-2006, 06:40 PM
We had said we'd go to the pub saturday night for a meal, sounds a like a good reason to do so now.

Northy
06-04-2006, 06:43 PM
Yeah, good call.

Who's still getting their cars ready? I've got the X10 prop in the freezer as I type...

And the house smells of tire glue.
And motor cleaner.
And soldering.
And tires.
And stuff......

Stu
06-04-2006, 06:46 PM
Our house smells of curry, as do I.

Mrs oOple
06-04-2006, 06:58 PM
Yeah, good call.

Who's still getting their cars ready?

Still? I don't think we've started yet?

Although my MP3 player is charged up :)

Oscar
06-04-2006, 07:35 PM
Will I be allowed to pitch the old oOple tent next to yours or have you gone a bit too posh, what with all your new gear:smile:
Best save me a space, i wont be there till 9 or 10pm, or if its really cold and miserable about 7am Sat morning;)

jimmy
06-04-2006, 07:43 PM
haha we will try john, vicky said something about being told where to pitch tents, if thats the case then we might not have any control!

emzy
06-04-2006, 08:07 PM
Aye they usually direct you... unless you're really late (11.15pm last year!)... but you can always move when they've got their backs turned!

Major space needed saving for us... by the look of things we won't be leaving until about 10pm *scowl*. Dad just informed me he HASN'T taken the afternoon off work.Woo hoo. Not.

rich_cree
06-04-2006, 08:11 PM
Blatant plug, enter you fantasy RC team over at Doughtys website!!!!!

Stu
06-04-2006, 08:41 PM
Can I have Jenifer Ellison in my team?

jimmy
06-04-2006, 08:44 PM
Blatant plug, enter you fantasy RC team over at Doughtys website!!!!!

haha
It hurt my head when i tried to understand it earlier.. Ill have another go tomorrow

Northy
06-04-2006, 09:44 PM
I'm still too busy building cars.
X10 Prop still in freezer :(

bigred5765
06-04-2006, 09:49 PM
doesnt look good guys, weather on everywebsite i check says rain rain rain, omg first national of the year raining.:eek: o what am i on about we love wet tracks lol

emzy
06-04-2006, 10:12 PM
I'm still too busy building cars.
X10 Prop still in freezer :(

I might be being thick... but why?

My dad's still at the pub... no car building here!

Mrs oOple
06-04-2006, 10:16 PM
Is your car going to be the drunken-build edition?

Northy
06-04-2006, 10:24 PM
I might be being thick... but why?

My dad's still at the pub... no car building here!

To try and un-glue it as I want to shorten it, but it's not working. :(
Will leave it in over night, then give it the old gas ring treatment in the morning, that'll shock it! :o

Going to bed now, I'm bushed...

barnyard
06-04-2006, 11:00 PM
just got in from pub and havin fun tryin to focus on the screen.

4wd is ready apart from shell needs cuttin.
2wd is as it left the track last week, oops
tyres are still in the packets, think i'll be buildin these at work tomorrow
batteries need buildin, another job for work

jimmy
07-04-2006, 07:58 AM
Well, im all prepared now, both our B4's are still caked in mud from last weekend, got no tyres, foams or wheels and Ive lost a vital bit of steering gubbins from my b4! all good then! :confused:
But at least I have a shiney lovely bling new car to race in 4wd with a 3am paint job to boot.

Bathy
07-04-2006, 11:50 AM
Well, im all prepared now, both our B4's are still caked in mud from last weekend, got no tyres, foams or wheels and Ive lost a vital bit of steering gubbins from my b4! all good then! :confused:
But at least I have a shiney lovely bling new car to race in 4wd with a 3am paint job to boot.

If you're in need of tyres and wheels tomorrow Jimmy just ask me, I think I've over ordered (based on my ability) so will be able to spare a set, I think I’m short on foams mind.

jimmy
07-04-2006, 12:03 PM
I think keith is coming down with a load of foams, I asked him to bring me some too so we'll see if he remembers :p

MikePimlott
08-04-2006, 12:46 AM
GOOD LUCK EVERYONE AT KIDDY SUNDAY!! :smile:

jimmy
09-04-2006, 09:02 PM
I had a bit of a nightmare on saturdays 2wd, but 4wd today well, nightmare wouldnt even come close! I was one place from being in the bottom final. Oh dear.
Too much messing about with the camera and not enough time working on the cars. :(

Stu
09-04-2006, 09:35 PM
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/racenorthwest/hail.jpg

And G seen as your online,
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/racenorthwest/g.jpg
commitment or crash?
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/racenorthwest/jimmy.jpg

jimmy
09-04-2006, 10:38 PM
Nice one stu, like the middle one especially, and hey my orange beast on there too!

thanks for putting the photos on CD for me mate, much appreciated, unfortunately it allowed me to get 903 photos... :rolleyes: no wonder i drove so bad.

niggs98
10-04-2006, 07:36 AM
got to be a crash :P:P:P well its monday morning and i have finally defrosted lol god that was a hard weekend there but roll on tivvy and awsome pics jim even the one of me looking like a grumpy #@*% on mi marshal point but then again i had just popped mi knee :P

jimmy
10-04-2006, 09:06 AM
Not sure how but my final was actually good in 4wd, I had such a rubbish day in 4wd and crashed every lap it seemed, then in the final from 10th on the grid I managed to race the entire 5 minutes without error and won it!
I liked the track for 4wd , I didnt like that lump of concrete that was just after the table top, it was on the apex of a corner but the corner obscured it. Evil it was.
At least the final made up for the naff performance all weekend.

Southwell
10-04-2006, 10:48 AM
Not sure how but my final was actually good in 4wd, I had such a rubbish day in 4wd and crashed every lap it seemed, then in the final from 10th on the grid I managed to race the entire 5 minutes without error and won it!
I liked the track for 4wd , I didnt like that lump of concrete that was just after the table top, it was on the apex of a corner but the corner obscured it. Evil it was.
At least the final made up for the naff performance all weekend.
I marshalled your race and your body must have come off half a dozen times in one of the rounds

jimmy
10-04-2006, 10:58 AM
Aye, gutted I was.. Put the car down, worked, waggled wheels, worked.. set off, erm, nothing, dead!..
something seriously wrong with my Quantum2 in the zx5, I already replaced some wires and re did the switch (or rather john price did for me, thanks john) .. It seems to be when I put the throttle on it switches off or resets or something - sometimes.
when it worked I was already a lap down and vicky didnt manage to secure the shell properly..
I was all up for wanging my car into an immovable object at the end of that particular race!

Want to thank Nathan Ralls and Ian barnard for lending my cheap-self some tyres.

niggs98
10-04-2006, 11:04 AM
Aye, gutted I was.. Put the car down, worked, waggled wheels, worked.. set off, erm, nothing, dead!..
something seriously wrong with my Quantum2 in the zx5, I already replaced some wires and re did the switch (or rather john price did for me, thanks john) .. It seems to be when I put the throttle on it switches off or resets or something - sometimes.
when it worked I was already a lap down and vicky didnt manage to secure the shell properly..
I was all up for wanging my car into an immovable object at the end of that particular race!

Want to thank Nathan Ralls and Ian barnard for lending my cheap-self some tyres.

no worries but best you get yourself a xxx then i can help ya with fronts as well next time ;)

jimmy
10-04-2006, 11:20 AM
hehe, I shaved down my green fronts a little, but the rear pinks you lent me on the B4 really helped, it was much more progressive than the greens. A shame they last so little time around there though, makes for an expensive day. :o

Northy
10-04-2006, 12:04 PM
Nice one stu, like the middle one especially...

Me too! Car was awesome on Sunday and had my best ever finish at a National I think. Might have been able to qualify a bit better if it wasn't for traffic. :(

Really confident about 4wd this season now, and the B4's off well too!

Didn't get chance to say goodbye to many people on Sunday, we saw a gap we could get the car though so went for it before we got blocked in again. See you all next time.

Oh, and by the way, I wasn't Pissed on Saturday night! :D

Mrs oOple
10-04-2006, 12:09 PM
when it worked I was already a lap down and vicky didnt manage to secure the shell properly..


Was that because you drove off before I had chance to hook it down properly? :jimmeh
Anyway, if the body came off 6 times then it was me and 5 other people that didn't manage :)

Bathy
10-04-2006, 02:12 PM
Want to thank Nathan Ralls and Ian barnard for lending my cheap-self some tyres.

I didn’t give you my spares as I promised Jimmy, sorry! As expected I did have too many and brought three sets back with me, I even talked to you a few times about why you were using BB spikes, oops.

I was one place from being in the bottom final. Oh dear.

Nothing wrong with bottom finals, I made sure I was in them for both days… :) That way the best drivers are forced to watch/marshal my efforts, all done on purpose you see :rolleyes:

jimmy
10-04-2006, 03:02 PM
Cheers mate but I dint want to deprive you of your brand spankers :o Im slow enough to use bald ones and it wont make a difference anyway :p

someone was aparently selling tivvy tyres cheap on sunday, missed out dint I !! BAH! are they same as last years tyres ? the prolines I mean, I have some left over that only have a couple of runs on and they seem to last quite well

Oscar
10-04-2006, 04:30 PM
Yep, same ones Jim, M3 step pins.
I have some of last years left also if your stuck (including new ones).

jimmy
10-04-2006, 06:37 PM
This is one of my fave shots from the weekend, shame its not clearer tho, I think its ellis jumping over a tumbling barton ?? either way the bottom car came tumbling over the jump with ellis just behind and jumping clean over him from what I remember.:p



http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/kiddy080406/bigimages/kiddy2wd22.jpg

Stu
10-04-2006, 09:21 PM
Oh, and by the way, I wasn't Pissed on Saturday night! :D

Aye right, I'm told Kidderminster traffic department are looking for their missing road signs.

jimmy
10-04-2006, 09:25 PM
The first sign of being pissed is when you start denying it !

Chrislong
10-04-2006, 09:59 PM
The second sign of being pissed is denying that you are denying it.

emzy
10-04-2006, 10:00 PM
Aye right, I'm told Kidderminster traffic department are looking for their missing road signs.

Where did that keep right sign go?! I was looking for it on Sunday morning after you 'placed it'... I wanted it for my bedroom wall!

WHITTLER555
10-04-2006, 10:09 PM
G, your attempts to claim non pissedness (new word) will not pass Mrs Whittle's radar,

Slurring words
Blurry eyes
Demanding another lager
Pursuading everyone to have another lager
nicking "stealth" road signs

OH! and being told to behave by Mi Julie!!!

Never mind, we can have a re-match at Southport.

Stu currently holds the pissed world record at Southport for losing an expensive denim jacket on the track and never finding it again!

I am sure you can do better!
LOL:D

emzy
10-04-2006, 10:57 PM
What about his little Batley incident?!

Stu
11-04-2006, 06:02 AM
That is not talked about.

emzy
11-04-2006, 09:44 AM
That's me told!

*is clamped*

Northy
11-04-2006, 12:08 PM
Was that one falling asleep in the bus shelter or something?

Em, I'll see what I can find you next time. If you'd asked I knew where it was... ;)

WHITTLER555
11-04-2006, 03:20 PM
I have very selective memory loss where Batley is concerned and it was all in the aid of Kev Kitchen!;)

Northy
11-04-2006, 05:12 PM
Who didn't need your help after all, just needed to join "the club" :o LOL :salut:

Stu
11-04-2006, 08:17 PM
Done a fair ammount of re-structuring.
Lot of work just for a 'NEXT' botton.
Kiddy 2wd (http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/racenorthwest/kid2wd/gallery.htm)
Kiddy 4wd (http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/racenorthwest/kid4wd/gallery.htm)
I think I've used too much JPEG compression to try to get the file sizes down.

Northy
11-04-2006, 08:59 PM
I was NOT pissed!

Stu, you gonna remind us about Batley?

Stu
11-04-2006, 09:08 PM
I have to admit that wshile you were not staggering about, barfing, abusing strangers or otherwise excessivly pissed, but......, you were pretty funny.

I have noticed thet a couple of my thumbnails don't match the main images, oh well, makes it more interesting.

Northy
11-04-2006, 09:21 PM
I just get daft when I'm drinking. Best to be a daft drunk than an aggressive drunk :p

Not that I was drunk, just happy you see.... :flower:

Stu
11-04-2006, 09:30 PM
So you admit it then?

emzy
11-04-2006, 10:07 PM
There's a lot of broken linkies on those photos...

Oh and Sttuuuu, do you think you could email me the full size ones of my car(s)?

darryl
12-04-2006, 04:40 AM
I just get daft when I'm drinking. Best to be a daft drunk than an aggressive drunk :p

Not that I was drunk, just happy you see.... :flower:
best way graham,thats how i go when ive had a few and apparantley talk non stop drivel:D

Will Olpin
12-04-2006, 07:00 AM
Stu nice photos mate, what camera you using?

Stu
12-04-2006, 04:27 PM
Box Brownie ........... sorry not funny I know, Cannon 350d.

I think I've fixed the code errors. I re-wrote all my gallery code last night and just kina' whapped it on without checking it (like my spekking)

Em, send me a private messasge with your e.mail address & I'll send you the images, there are a few more that I havn't posted.

Wole site is now at northernracer.com (http://northernracer.com)

Nice.

Chrislong
12-04-2006, 09:58 PM
best way graham,thats how i go when ive had a few and apparantley talk non stop drivel:D

Same here... oh, but then i share every fine personal detail of my life and the wonder "Did I really talk about *that* last night" when I wake up.

Northy
12-04-2006, 10:56 PM
But Chris I thought you didn't drink?

BTW, I might have been to the pub tonight.

:D

G