x10 or xx4we

[greeny]

hi all, in the process off buying a knew 4wd buggy. ive been offered a mint condition xx4we... but ive also seen a good condition predator x10.

which one would you choose?
i will be racing it on a outdoor grass bumpy track in the UK.

pros and cons of each one please....

jordan

[josh_smaxx]

xx-4 any day

[Northy]

Or X10...... ;)

Ok, some pro's of the X10:

It's very very fast on UK tracks. Is that enough? :D

G

[ashleyb4]

xx4we very fast stong and easy to drive car.

A

[vader]

which ever car you get be happy with your choice

[millzy]

strong

front wishbines are shit unless you have that mod screw that jessy roberts runs and that yellow hardener stuff in the triangle section

[footey]

x10 easyer to work on than the xx4 looks nicer lol:)

[Spencer Mulcahy]

X10 the better backup from the distributer-manufacturer and its british. XX4 front shock tower made of cheese and the wishbones made of ginger bread.:)

[Northy]

xx4 very strong

:o :o :o :o :o :o

I'd hit one flat out with my Pred any day of the week mate! :D :D

G

[Southwell]

X10 is much stronger than a xx4. I very very rarely broke my ETQ and thats old enough for a pension!

[greeny]

sounds like its about even but most people are sayin the x10is better out of the two.

1 question...

where on earth do you get x10 parts in the uk?

jordan

[ashleyb4]

The xx4 is a faster car though. And also parts for the xx4 are easier to get hold of as not many shops stop t-tech parts where most shops stock losi parts.

A

[Southwell]

sounds like its about even but most people are sayin the x10is better out of the two.


I prefere the X10 and drive a xx4 (yes i had a x10), go figure. :D

[ashleyb4]

Also there must be a very very good reason why almost half the people at nationals are running the xx4. and not the x10???

A

[greeny]

true ive neva found a predator parts stockist.

jordan

[Chris Doughty]

Also there must be a very very good reason why almost half the people at nationals are running the xx4. and not the x10???

A

because they are waiting to buy a B44?

[bretts]

XX4 front shock tower made of cheese and the wishbones made of ginger bread.:)

so why don't poeple run the plastic shock tower if the graphite one is brittle?

[ashleyb4]

because they are waiting to buy a B44?

Is that why your running the s4???

A

[strobe]

Greeny. Personally i would wait a couple of months and get a B44. DC Racing advertising for £210.

[greeny]

i cant wiat as i havent got a car currently.

jordan

[millzy]

get a cheap second hand one and save up some more for the the b44

ive sene cheap x10 entry level types on fleebay

[Northy]

Predator parts are available in the UK straight from the manufacturer, team xtreme.

G

[ashleyb4]

Im not going to argue with you G it aint worth falling out over in my view the xx4 is the quicker car.

A

[greeny]

ive just been on the xtreme website... and looked but it only seems to be one page. if i was to order some parts would i have to ring with the part numbers and pay over the fone.

jordan

[jim76]

i've never seen a pred go that well on really bumpy ground, a bit like the old XXX4.
If your track is bumpy then you would be better off with a xx4, much easier to drive on bumps.

why not consider a different car? the xx4 is long in the tooth and not sure how long spares will be supported. and the pred isn't happy on bumps.

[strobe]

try hear: http://ttechracing.com/
Click on shop. Bottom left

[greeny]

yes but these parts are from the ttech america so it would be a long time after ordering the parts that i actually recieve them plus you can get tax on the parts from over there coming to here.

i would like to buy the x10 for the fact its the cheaper one out of the 2 plus it looks so much more a solid and stronger looking car. apparently its fast and good on bumps aswell.

jordan

[Northy]

Team xtreme bought ttech racing and are in the process of setting up a new website.

The shop on the old ttech site should still work, but you could pick up the phone, the guys there are really helpfull and knowledgeable and don't bite :D :D

G

[Northy]

yes but these parts are from the ttech america so it would be a long time after ordering the parts that i actually recieve them plus you can get tax on the parts from over there coming to here.

i would like to buy the x10 for the fact its the cheaper one out of the 2 plus it looks so much more a solid and stronger looking car. apparently its fast and good on bumps aswell.

jordan

The ttech america shop was actually run from the UK ;)

Pick up the phone and talk to the new guys at Extreme, ask them about the car, and tell them Graham North sent you ;)

G

[millzy]

i've never seen a pred go that well on really bumpy ground, a bit like the old XXX4.
If your track is bumpy then you would be better off with a xx4, much easier to drive on bumps.

why not consider a different car? the xx4 is long in the tooth and not sure how long spares will be supported. and the pred isn't happy on bumps.


i dnot run a x10 and the last pred i hate was 5 odd years ago, but i think i remeber seening a purple and orange one pushing the xx4s around like cray last year and this year at all the national tracks

[greeny]

sorry mate just realised that the ttech website is in GB pounds.

im seriously very tempted to get the X10. ive only every seen one go round my track though... but in all fairness it was chassing championship leader:cool: . and ive just realised parts look verycheap aswell. condsidering i used to race touring cars which are a extremely expensive comodity.

jordan

[MattW]

Well, i have both cars - X10 and xx4.

I think it is fair to say that the X10 is stronger. I know i broke less last year running the X10 than i have this year running the xx4.

There lies the clue really - i have both cars, accept that the x10 is stronger, but still cloose to use the xx4.

[ashleyb4]

The xx4 is a quicker car it shows from results phil sleigh, kev lee, tom cockerill, richard taylor are all maknig it easily into A finals with the car and also the only other car to win a national exsept for the aero a1 is the xx4 by darren bloomfield. Shurely this tells you something.

A

[GRIFF55]

That could, only slightly, be due to their thumbs!

[Chris Doughty]

The xx4 is a quicker car it shows from results phil sleigh, kev lee, tom cockerill, richard taylor are all maknig it easily into A finals with the car and also the only other car to win a national exsept for the aero a1 is the xx4 by darren bloomfield. Shurely this tells you something.

A

didn't Richard Taylor switch to the xxx4? :o

[ashleyb4]

Yea for the euro's doesnt mean he will be switching for nationals etc.

A

[ashleyb4]

That could, only slightly, be due to their thumbs!

If you give them a tamiya desert gator i have a feeling they wouldnt be in the A.

A

[greeny]

everyone vote on the poll please i need to make a decision soon lol.


jordan

[Northy]

There are to my knowledge 6 X10's running at Nationals, against god knows how many XX-4's, so the odds of the XX-4's being in the A is fairly high.

Yardy puts the Pred in the A often.

G

[matt]

If you look back at some of your early posts you are asking if you should get a xxx-cr or a b4 then it's a xxx-cr or a b4 or a rb5, then only the other day you are asking about a xxx4. Go back a bit more and you are asking about a d4. Why not put a few more cars on your poll, i haven't seen you ask about a yok bx yet or a bj4.

[gazbaz2]

I suppose any really X10 or XX4 both very good cars, but i would say the X10 is proberbly the fastest out of the 2, i have a XX4 never had a go of the pred but what i have seen it lookes very good outdoors

[gazbaz2]

Voting is 50, 50 now

[jimarea51]

Well this one will throw you...

Think back a few years... A certain Mr Cragg, Mr Bradby, Jamie Booth and Graham Alsop all ran the predators, at the same time the now long in the tooth XX4 was also available. But which do you think was the regular in the A final?

Proof that the fastest car really is the pred, however it maybe didn't have the best sponsorship deals/management at the time...

Chew one that for a while.........

jimarea51

[gazbaz2]

Like i said, dont no much about the pred, only what ive seen me personaly i would go for the XX4

[Chris Doughty]

Yea for the euro's doesnt mean he will be switching for nationals etc.

A

see what car he runs at southport... :o :D

[greeny]

lol ino sorry its because everytime i find the car iwant i find a better one for same money or less.

ive basically brought a x10 now ive made a offer so its hopefully gunna be the x10.

jordan

[Doomanic]

Well this one will throw you...

Think back a few years... A certain Mr Cragg, Mr Bradby, Jamie Booth and Graham Alsop all ran the predators, at the same time the now long in the tooth XX4 was also available. But which do you think was the regular in the A final?

All running AE as their primary sponsor.
There were rumours around at the time that they wouldn't have been allowed to run a Losi 4WD if they had wanted to.....

I've had Preds, XX4, XXX4 and BJ4.
I always end up back with the XX4 as it is so forgiving.
In the right hands the Pred may be faster, but for the average driver I think the XX4 is the better choice.

[greeny]

ive just brought a predator x10!!!

jordan

[Spencer Mulcahy]

There are to my knowledge 6 X10's running at Nationals, against god knows how many XX-4's, so the odds of the XX-4's being in the A is fairly high.

Yardy puts the Pred in the A often.

G

Make that 7 this weekend G:)

[Spencer Mulcahy]

Greeny dont worry about parts for you X10 you just need to order from Xtreme Rc they are very helpfull and the service is very fast(like the car). I was speaking to Lewis today and he is a very helpfull and freindly chap as Mr North has already said. There may be a 2wd on the way as well which would be nice.:) (that last coment was taken from an interview not the horses mouth):) :)

[Northy]

Make that 7 this weekend G:)

Good call Spencer :cool: :cool:

Have you got a set-up sorted yet? I think mine from last year is on the pred forum, it was dialed last year. :) I should have a new toy for this sunday ;)

G

[Spencer Mulcahy]

Been sorting the mods out this week G then I will sort the setup when I get my parts from Xtreme, will run your setup from last year. Noticed that it is on the way so it will be built in time for sunday good call.:)

[gramey]

true ive neva found a predator parts stockist.

jordan

:) Jordan, Galaxy's can get you the spares in just a couple of days or you can order direct from Xtreme RC who now own and make the Predators. I've done both and either way your only looking at a couple of days, don't recall having had to wait for anything on back order.:)

[bigred5765]

but isnt that the whole point, if you crash your car your not going to win any way so its not really about whats stronger, its about whats best around 90% of uk tracks and thats the xx4 at the mo, but i may change my mind soon to a x5 muhaaaaa

[bigred5765]

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[gramey]

ive just brought a predator x10!!!

jordan

:) Jordan, If all else fails speak to Matt Western he's the only one out of 8 of us that have run Preds at Coastal who's still got one, he may be able to help with a set up to suit our track.
Failing that buy 2 ton of top soil and fill in the bumps and ruts and a Pred should be fine!!:)

[vader]

who are these 2....

...or is it 4?

http://www.oople.com/forums/image.php?u=1133&type=sigpic&dateline=1184106582

[footey]

wish i new the 4 of them personly or 2 of them even lol
:D

[gramey]

:) vader & footey I find it rather sad that your attention is so easily distracted from rc matters!
If you really must know these two lovely young ladies, Brittany on the left & Jessica on the right, are the 'Brolly Dolly's' at Coastal Model Car Racing Club at Ipswich.
Whilst it may be blatant exploitation of the fairer sex, and it may just be coincidence, but attendance has picked up since they were persuaded to pop along occasionally by a club member.:)

[bigred5765]

were do we book in then ??lol

[Northy]

Any bigger pictures? :confused:

G

[gramey]

Any bigger pictures? :confused:

G

:) Of which one, the Losi or the Pred?:)

[GRIFF55]

Looks like coastal is to become popular verrrry soon!!

[Doomanic]

Isn't Coastal in Norfolk?

They'll only be interested in their brothers or fathers in that case!:D

[vader]

i think a new poll is needed!

Brittany or Jessica?

[Northy]

:) Of which one, the Losi or the Pred?:)

Why would I need a picture of an X10 when I have an X11 ;)

We need a picture of the filth! :p

G

[gramey]

:) vader & footey I find it rather sad that your attention is so easily distracted from rc matters!
If you really must know these two lovely young ladies, Brittany on the left & Jessica on the right, are the 'Brolly Dolly's' at Coastal Model Car Racing Club at Ipswich.
Whilst it may be blatant exploitation of the fairer sex, and it may just be coincidence, but attendance has picked up since they were persuaded to pop along occasionally by a club member.:)

:) Now come on guy's nobody can be that gullible, are they? I think it's fair to say if the above was true the members would have been crushed in the rush of visitors to the track.

Anyway to clear things up the name's are correct but these rather attractive young ladies are actually to be found on a website full of similar beauties. I don't think I'm allowed to post a link but if you do a search for Sports by Brooks you'll find them.

Doomanic - Coastal race track is actually in Suffolk, and anyway what's wrong with keeping it in the family? After all in this day and age anything this side of a Mongolian mountain goat appears to be acceptable!:)

[gramey]

If you look back at some of your early posts you are asking if you should get a xxx-cr or a b4 then it's a xxx-cr or a b4 or a rb5, then only the other day you are asking about a xxx4. Go back a bit more and you are asking about a d4. Why not put a few more cars on your poll, i haven't seen you ask about a yok bx yet or a bj4.

:) Well looking at the For Sale section the poll seemed a bit pointless as it appears Jordans now selling the X10 that he's just bought to return to TC's. It must be the indecision of youth, my 13 year old boy asked for a D4 and no sooner had I built it and he's decided to move to 1/8 truggies, doh!
So the next poll will be which TC to get, shall we start it now?:)

[greeny]

lol indeeed graham start it at some piont.

jordan

[vader]

FFS!!! roll on september!!!

[greeny]

calm down LOL

jordan

[xx4-nutter]

x10 easyer to work on than the xx4 looks nicer lol:)


http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb274/xx4-nutter/22617098.jpg

when ya work on ya predator ? ! :D