Ansmann/TQ/TC : the off thread

[kedal]

From an idea of elod, I open this thread about talk "when nothing new" :)

I'm waiting my new motor, a Robitronic 8.5T, which should arrived on monday, so I could run my Mad rat on next saturday.

[Battle_axe]

From an idea of elod, I open this thread about talk "when nothing new" :)

I'm waiting my new motor, a Robitronic 8.5T, which should arrived on monday, so I could run my Mad rat on next saturday.


good idea i am looking for a suplyer of 3mm cf or 4/5mm G10 sheet anyone know where i can get this? also expect me to be creating a "PRO" master smacker:thumbsup:

[zagonielod]

Thanks kedal! ;)
I also have bought several items which I broke during the last period, between other thing also an antenna for my radio :P I was pulling it out too fast on a race and it just came out the second last section. I also bought that ( .... what is it? Front hub carrier? on which the wheel axle is mounted ) what made my front wheel fell off on each jump an a race :P Still, I don't like my monster truck.... The Mad Rat is much simplier, much easyer to fix or to clean.
I am really thinking in buying a B-fast diff, before the stock becomes unusable.
Do you know guys, where could I find some off road track plans? If I would succeed to make a track here, i would like to make it interresting, not only turn-straight-turn-straight.......

[kedal]

Elod, here's a link to a petit RC's theard, a french forum, about a guy who made a 1/10 track on his garden, may help you. If you need translation, just aks :)

http://www.petitrc.com/_forumphp/showthread.php?t=44417

I'm also thinking about bfast diff, but no money for now... I need tires too, so, I'll make an order to TCModels soon, and try the hex alu mount, motor plate mount and this new alu gear, with some flip out jconcept tires :)
Bfast diff will wait... but I'm thinking about take 2.

Battle-axe : I saw cheap carbon fiber on ebay, check there.

[zagonielod]

Wow! Nice track! Very pretty! I would do that in my parents houses garden if they would allow me :P

[nicefrog]

I wanted my 98 year old grandmother to have a drive of my stadium truck since she was fascinated by it and really liked it :) so I ask her to throttle while I was steering. However we ended approaching a brick wall at full speed so I turned it blindly away from the house not known what was around the corner and hit a wheelbarrow at full speed :P lol.

I broke this

http://www.tcmodels.net/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/T02015_Front_Upp_4b541d1915806.jpg

Tcmodels are showing no stock :S but for the moment I stole the one from the madrat so the Stadium Truck was running again in just a few minutes. All around it was a very fun moment and well worth the 2 dollar part :) I'm going to order the new Aluminium idler gear when the suspension mount is in stock too and try that out

[kaylon]

Funny Nicefrog :)...

Try Concept racing (http://shop3.actinicexpress.com/shops/ConceptRacing/index.php?cat=Ansmann) ... Eric will usually get parts shipped within 3 days.

[nicefrog]

For the moment I've "done a zagonielod" and super glued it :). Since I'm so happy with the Stadium Truck and couldn't really see myself driving the buggy any time soon I've started converting the Madrat to mid motor :thumbsup: Looks like it will be really easy to do

[kedal]

I received my Robitonic motor ! Pics followed up.

[ben44]

Did you do test with your new motor :)

[kedal]

Yes Ben :) I quickly test on my living room, everything works, apparently no cogging... cant wait to run on saturday !!
I bought a 24T pinion too :)

[rob martin]

Offtopic but kedal your blogs very nice. I wish i could read it though!

[kaylon]

Offtopic but kedal your blogs very nice. I wish i could read it though!

Google Chrome has a translate function Rob...works pretty good.

J

[notme]

Nicefrog, when doing the shared transmitter thing with a newb driver, do it the other way around. You control the throttle and have the newb control the steering. Much safer this way...hehehe. I got my kids into it this way.
But Im sure you figured that out after the fact.

[kedal]

Offtopic but kedal your blogs very nice. I wish i could read it though!

Thanks Rob :)
If you need particular translation just ask.

[nicefrog]

I ordered 3 full sets of hex head screws to replace every screw on the team c cars, I don't like the button heads so apart so I'm going to replace most of them with full hex heads and I also got all the counter sunk flat heads. I'm having a lot of trouble with the diff screw loosening all the time so I'm going to get some better 2.5mm lock nuts too, that's the only nut or screw I have to order to have enough to replace them all. I already got a few 2.5 hex heads to replace the annoying Phillips diff screw. Other than that the trucks going really well and fast and easy to drive. Seems to be for me on the tight track with have to be faster than the buggy.

Notme, that's good advice with the throttle vs steering :) next time I'll do that

Other than that, I'm going to buy a brushless trainer plane soon and then a 60 amp sensored XErun esc and a sensored 8.5turn Speed Passion motor or maybe even a bit faster than that for the Stadium Truck, I'm also going to finish my Mid Motor Madrat sometime between now and the weekend, having the motor spin towards the rear of the car and the battery hard up against the motor so all the weight is in one spot is the correct setup right?. I need to make a alloy T-piece and a bracket to support the front of the gearbox and motor plate to Chassis and do a bit of grinding to fit the motor in the standard chassis and that's about it

[ben44]

I see many peoples whant alu hex mont, why? Did there is some problem with the plastic one?

Some personn do a test with the carbone rear chassi?

[positronic]

I see many peoples whant alu hex mont, why? Did there is some problem with the plastic one?

Some personn do a test with the carbone rear chassi?

the plastic hex are loose fitting and the pins fall out when im working on the car

[ben44]

I do a test with the carbon rear plate, on a astro.
The car will be more easy, i forget a littel of turn. The rear of the caar don't move and have a lot of gripp.

I would like to do a test on track with less gripp, or indoor with aout carpet.

[zagonielod]

hi guys! it's very quiet here....
then I'll make some noise :) I've bought today an Etronix probe 12 ESC for the stock Clash motor. Also bought a set of StepUp Stinger rear tires on wheels. A set of B4 diff thrust screw with nuts. Some spare 5X10X4 Abec35 bearings. (and 4 rechargeable batteries -I had allready for- cas I'm tired of buying new batteries which after use have to be thrown out... )
Looks like I'll have another race on the weekend if it won't rain.

Edit

the diff thrust screw.... It is 25mm long in total, but only 2mm in diameter. Will it be good?...

[kedal]

I'm going to place an order to TCModels.net to take some option and test jconcept tires :)

Elod, what is the diametre of the stock thrust screw ?

[zagonielod]

I'm going to place an order to TCModels.net to take some option and test jconcept tires :)

Elod, what is the diametre of the stock thrust screw ?

2,5mm Does it have to be the same diameter to fill up the hole in the diff or it just has to tighten it together?
I made the break in for the Clash motor today, mounted deans connectors on the ESC cas it came with Tamiya

[kaylon]

Here is something different that I'm doing over at the URC forums...

URC Build Off (http://www.ultimaterc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110946)

J

[zagonielod]

Hey Rob! Is that you with the yellow cars on this video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBPJB...ure=grec_index (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBPJBttjWn4&playnext_from=TL&videos=9JZxXH8lLcQ&feature=grec_index)
:)

...don't know why the video doesn't show
heres the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBPJBttjWn4&playnext_from=TL&videos=9JZxXH8lLcQ&feature=grec_index

[kaylon]

That's Mike Friery driving the lead yellow Losi truck...

Nice to see Neil Cragg from here in the UK getting dusty in the US :)

J

[rob martin]

Hey Rob! Is that you with the yellow cars on this video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBPJBttjWn4&playnext_from=TL&videos=9JZxXH8lLcQ&feature=grec_index
:)

...don't know why the video doesn't show
heres the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBPJBttjWn4&playnext_from=TL&videos=9JZxXH8lLcQ&feature=grec_index



haha i wish that was me. I loved that track tho!:thumbsup:

[zagonielod]

hi fellas! :)
I thought I tell that tomorrow I will have another race with the MadRat :) Only that now with a stock brushed system. BIG difference tho between my brusless system and this brushed.... The startup is muuuuch much smoother but than.....it ends there :P
I have the stock clash motor with the 21T pinion. What else could I do to make it faster?.....

[nicefrog]

Did you get good tyres yet? it'll be twice as fast then

[zagonielod]

Yes. I got these tires

[nicefrog]

Is that what the other guys at your track use?

[zagonielod]

No. This is what I have seen on a Step up Stinger buggy and I liked it with those big spikes. and I got the two whole rear tires(tire+wheel) for about.....15usd ? I will see this evening if they are any better like the stock tires. The "MadRat firend" have bought a set of PL Calibers :P I will try those too ;)

[zagonielod]

Ok. I'm leving now cas the race is in another city and we have to get there. CU gusy and will be back with news and pics. Hopefully videos too ;)

[kedal]

Goode race elod !

[zagonielod]

Hi friends!
So I said, i was racing yesterday in the stock class with the Ansmann clash motor ( :P and have to say that it did petty well, with a 23T pinion :) ), and as promised I'll do a short summary of it. The track was a very complex one, having all kind of surfaces, earth, sand, grass. One single and one double ramp (I hate that double soooo much!!!! :mad: ) 2WDs really had some hard times on that double ramp. The main phenomenon was that we have landed on the nose.(I confess that I cannot jump yet. I will buy some spares the summer and will train myself for the jumps) Even the better drivers have had very few succesfull jumps. And even less those in the stock class with 20T brushed motors. I've decided not to jump at all,being affraid of breaking something,untill the last A final, when I said, that I don't have too much to loose so I've started jumping that double ramp. Nothing broke :lol:
Even the organisers said that it was a track for 4WD. (Actually after the race I have tried a B44......well.....I'm NOT giving up. I want to learn to drive a 2WD well. But...God how well that B44 drove.......!Almost full throttel in the curves and succesfull jumps :P BTW! I also have to buy a faster servo.
Do you guys consider the exponential a necesary thing? Should I find a radio with exponential? In the straights I didn't really have steering issues. One issue was that before the race somebody broke my radios steering wheel and I had to race with a Kyosho Perfex. Maybe it was better than mine but I wasn't used with it, with how the DR worked. One qualification went weaker because of that DR.
After all, I don't know what place I was, BUT, in the 2nd stock A-Final I was 4th and the other MadRat right in front of me 3rd :D
Cheers guys!

(did I say, short summary? :P )

[kedal]

Congrat elod !

I dont use expo on radio because I dont have it on my 2PL.

[Battle_axe]

Congrat elod !

I dont use expo on radio because I dont have it on my 2PL.
i have it but i dont use it i may put some in on the 4wd throttle but to be fair it makes the response feel mushy and unnatural

[zagonielod]

Ok. Than lets ask it this way: what radio should I buy to be good and if possible, budget?

[kedal]

Futaba 2PL, graupner sport, ansmann 2.4Ghz...
Good radio, minimal set up, good price :)

[notme]

My 2 cents; Ive messed with exponential a little and have found the best thing is to learn throttle control. If you watch video of some of the pro drivers, you can see how well they control their throttle.....never applied too soon or too late. The better you are at it the more competitive you will be.
Try to practice often, for me I am not a "natural" so I need to run on of my cars 1 or 2 days a week. If I take a week or 2 off Im terrible come race day.
As for jumping, throttle control is everything when it comes to the pitch or angle of your car in the air. As your car leaves the ramp, the wheels unload (spin faster) and this causes the car to go nose high. Therefore you need to back off the throttle as soon as you launch. If you back off too much or hit the brakes your car will nose dive very quickly. So with practise you'l learn where to put the throttle.
Another thing with throttle control, if you have the wrong rear tires it will be much harder to learn this skill. The rear end will be loose and hard to control.

[zagonielod]

Thanks notme! very usefull tips. Thing is, I know allready the theory of the jump. I've watched a lot of youtube vids earlier. I think, the problem wasn't then while being in the air. In the air I couldn't do anything, and I think it is because the car is only 2wd, so it didn't pull up its nose when on the throttle like a 4WD does. Also I am sure that the car wasn't nose heavy. I think, the solution would have been the following: not to try to control it in the air (which anyway didn't work at all) but to give it the right throttle before leaving the ramp, which theoretically would have been pushed down the rear and lifted up the nose.
I will have to buy several front lower arms and other front suspention spares and start practicing :)

[notme]

Ive found that the truck and 2wd are the most sensitive to throttle control/nose attitude relation and the 4wd to be the least.
If you could post a video of your or other cars in this problem double jump I could help further.

[zagonielod]

well....I was running in stock so I could't really film while racing :P ....wait...I have filmed one stock B qualifying, only that I don1t have the dvd. Have to get it somehow.

[nicefrog]

If you adjust the springs a bit and then hold the throttle a little while in the air they fly straight, the buggy seems to fly straight better than the truck but both are doable on any sensible sized jump

[zagonielod]

Could you explane a little the spring setup? and what about weights? how should I set up the weight distribution? I have seen somewhere several setups, but don't know where they were.

[zagonielod]

OOOOOO YESSS!!!!! I have found pictures :D
I will update this message with the link and some pictures with comments

Here is a link to the album: http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y207/xj39eldiablo/fxracing_2/

We habe been actually 32 in total :)
And that is the double ramp which previously was closer, one right near the other. (that's the B44 I've tried after the race)

[notme]

Looks like your running in mud, well that explains a bit. Its hard to get enough speed up in tacky conditions as it looks in that pic. I dont know what advice to give you for those conditions.

[zagonielod]

One question. Who is here from the Netherlands or Belgium ?

Otherwise, I have cleaned today ma MadRat :) It was full of mud. I've washed even the tires :) Today I've run it for the first time with lipo, with this brushed system. I have to say again, I am really pleased with the stock Clash motor :) Does anyone to donate his? :D
BTW. What happens? Everybody is working? Too much quiet here :)

[nicefrog]

Everyone is watching the pretty cathedrals in Belgium on the Tour of France :) and the Soccer too when the cycling is over

[zagonielod]

BTW.... what do you say guys? How good are the stock MadRat tires? I am asking because I couldn't make a comparison(this is my first buggy and second ever RC car)

[kedal]

Stock tires are VERY good for bashing on a grippy ground. For the track, they're crap.

Well, I sometime use stock front tire when the track is very grippy, to have less streering but believe me, try good competition tire and your mad rat will thanks you !

[nicefrog]

I put the Jconcepts goosebumps on mine and the traction was twice as good on dirt as it was with the stock tyres, seriously saves you seconds a lap and twice as easy to drive. You gain more with good tyres than with any motor or battery or anything else you can think of. I didn't think front tyres would make much difference but once I had good back tyres the front didn't have enough turning anymore so I changed those also to green compound ribs and even though the looked identical to the stock tyres they made it heaps faster again

[zagonielod]

I put the Jconcepts goosebumps on mine and the traction was twice as good on dirt as it was with the stock tyres, seriously saves you seconds a lap and twice as easy to drive. You gain more with good tyres than with any motor or battery or anything else you can think of
And in the front?
What do you say guys? Should I buy these shocks?...
http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47797

[nicefrog]

I added some more about the front :), worry about tyres first then shocks: )

[zagonielod]

I do have now rear tires. Would have to find some good front tires too....

[ben44]

And in the front?
What do you say guys? Should I buy these shocks?...
http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47797
Look to buy ansmann shocks (x pro version), or the big bore ansmann if you whant.
The are very good and price too.

After if you would like to have some set-up they will comme with the ansmann shocks

[nicefrog]

HA! my order from Hexcrew heads arrived, now I have 3 full sets of awesome quality bolts and nuts. No more bendy, stripable bolts for me :). I even got 5 diff screw bolts to get rid of that stupid philips screw that's been driving me insane, they didn't have a 2.5 mm nut tho :S but I can get them from other places, until then I'll put some locktite on the stock one and hope that stops it from spinning undone all the time. But overall it's a good day today since the major flaw with the cars will be cured :)

[kedal]

About tires, elod, take :
front :
losi 7202 red
or
proline 4 rib M3
or
Jconcept rounder green

rear :
big shot losi red
or
gosse bump/flip out jconcept green
or
proline bow tie/hole shot M3

Find those tires on a US online shop (A main Hobby, Losi part house or Tower Hobbie) and take the shocks you need (asso, Losi, Kyosho) Take some rim too
Make an order with all those item, not very expensive and you'll get all what you need.

[notme]

First run with my truck the other day......went about as lousy as the 2wd did. Snapped the t plate like nothing.......landed a little nose high off a big jump. Broke right inline with the screws. Im hoping it was one of the first batch of t plate(s) and my spares are the newer ones. It broke quite easily. Almost glad no one else was at the track as Id sure have been teased about it....the whole rear end spilled on the track like gutting a fish....lol.
So far its not handling as well as my old T4, it feels like its too short of wheelbase.
The rear and was handling the bumps real well, Im running 30wt with an extra 2 holes in the stock piston, holes are #57 or 1.09mm. Front is stock piston with 30wt as well.
Out of the box the 4wd is way better then both the 2wd and truck. Not sure why this is, they did more homework on the 4wd..? The 2wd and truck are good, just need more work to get things sorted, and with my kits they seem to have a few brittle parts.
I bought the rtr tires for the truck, they seem to work ok on our track, weird thing is the fronts make a strange skidding sound in the corners. They both fit the rims perfectly, unlike the losi's. Tires were coated with some unruly goo-gunk which needed an abrasive cleaner to remove.

end of ramblings...

[positronic]

zagonielod -> you can adjust the way the car jumps by adjusting the spring preload collar, tighten the front collar to make the nose go higher, tighten the back to make the back go higher. Loosening them has the opposite effect.

Have a play with it and see if that helps.

[zagonielod]

thanks! I'll try. the weather is good now, so I might go out and build a ramp or something, and start practicing

[nicefrog]

notme, my truck is absurd fast, it's like on rails straight out of the box but I have green compound jconcepts tyres on it. I only have a 13T brushless in it but its just as fast around the tight track as the 9T DF03 4wd and that has quite a few upgrades. I've dugg holes all over the track from the front end nose diving off jumps and nothings broken either :S how hard is the track you drive on? must be like concrete?

[notme]

Its hard but not concrete, its known to be a little tough on cars. Unfortunatly the truck is down for a while as it broke the tabs on the front of the transmission case as well. Im hoping this is all thats going to break... :/

[nicefrog]

I see, maybe I'll break some things during the summer months when the ground gets harder but so far the plastics are holding up well

[notme]

Well today is a day Id like to put behind me as far as racing goes. The tc02 encountered an issue Ive not had before, its intermittent, and I dont know if its gearbox or electronics. I only finished 1 race out of 4 but pulled fastest lap of the day.
The 4wd the car was blazing the field, but it would only run 2 minutes then shut down. I cannot find any information about sidewinder esc's having thermal shut down, anyone know? If thats not the problem then my next guess is esc/motor combo pulling too many amps and the voltage is spiking below 6v cutoff.
The 4wd handled great and could pass at will, i love this thing!
First broken part with it today too, I got out of shape badly and way overjumped the tripple, landed hard on the left front. I thought it destroyed the lower arm but no. The arm ripped the inner pin out of its place and broke both ends of the pin! The arm did not break, weirdest thing Ive seen in rc in 25 years :cry:

[kaylon]

Notme... are you using 2.4g control ?.. if so are both cars bound to the same controller...if so is the cut off issue similar to both cars ?....

I've seen cars do this 'shut off' thing when the driver is using 2.4 control system...it seams be a known issue with some makes and might be what's happening with you.

I run 2.4 myself but have not had issues, just thought I'd throw a suggestion out there :)

J

[positronic]

notme did you manage to get a temp gun on your 4wd, I have a sidewinder and only heard a rumour that it has a thermal cutoff at 225.

what battery are you running also

[notme]

2.4 yes. Ive run this sidewinder in my 2wd with out problems, except a little too much speed. So Id say its heat then. It doesnt seem overgeared, but I'll drop a couple teeth off the pinion and see. It was 35C outside too, probably didnt help!
Hows everyone else doing racing wise?

regards :/

[nicefrog]

I'm waiting for rcmart to get the 4wd in stock :) he only has one TC02 left in stock so hopefully when that goes he can make a new order to teacm c and get the 4wd also, I think (hope) he will do the price in the 150-180 usd range, based on the other cars ratio vs the tc prices it works out just over 150 but I'll wait and see what he can do :). Otherwise everything is broken with diff issues:S but I have b fast diffs on the way, then I'll be right. I'm looking to buy a plane in the next couple of weeks, it's something I've wanted to do since I was 4 years old. I figure 30+ years is long enough to wait and since I can get a cheap lipo ready to fly trainer these days, now is a good time :)

[kedal]

My order from TCModels is blocked to the french customs :(
I must wait for it, and certainly pay lot of taxes :(

Very disgusted !

[nicefrog]

Before Australia changed it's tax system we used to have to pay import tax on most things between 10 and 25?% on everything depending on what it was. But now (since 2000) we only need to pay tax if the item is valued over $1000 so now it's almost always cheaper and faster to receive if you buy from Hong Kong, it was perfect timing for online shopping and very lucky really

[notme]

TCmodels has 10 4wd's in stock. Rcmart may not get them for a while, or ever....? They also sell on ebay.

[positronic]

A TC02 is 159 usd on TCmodels and 99 USD at RCmart, Best to wait for RCmart to sell the TC04

edit: Rcmart said they can get them, just waiting for them to confirm a price

[nicefrog]

rcmart are going to get them, I like that TR04 pro with the normal stick pack that positronic posted in the other thread, might have to ask about that one

[notme]

Oh right, their prices kick butt. Im not sure but I think the rtr or stick pack version comes with plastic shocks and bushings instead of bearings.
If only rcmart would carry parts!

[nicefrog]

Yeah I'm not sure what the TR04 pro comes with so just to be sure I best get the TC04 and get a new battery

[ConceptRacing]

I currently have one in stock at the moment, willing to let it go for £152, let me know if your interested, cheers Eric

[nicefrog]

It doesn't work out well buying stuff from the UK with the exchange rate and hefty postage, That would put me in the price range of some other more desirable 4wd's but thanks for offering : )

[kedal]

Where do you live nicefrog ?

[nicefrog]

Total other side of the planet :) Australia, which happens to be very close to Hong Kong, so there's no point sending things around the world twice, that's just a big waste of fuel

[kedal]

I will have my order tomorrow : 46€ of customs taxes ! damned ! Its the last time I buy something outside of europe !

Nicefrog, you're lucky to live next to HK !

[nicefrog]

I had to pay something like 15% tax on a 300 USD RC10 team car in 1991 and the Australian dollar was only valued at half what it is now, I doubt it's had more than 10 packs through it, but I'll be waiting a while until that car is again worth what it cost :P. 10th scale RC is muuuuch cheaper now. The good news is that I might have my B fast diff this week

[nicefrog]

I noticed today that the Roar legal chassis and other parts for the Short Course truck are out now, see this link

http://www.tcmodels.net/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=63&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=71

[notme]

And the kit is ready too! I already have 3 cars.....hmmmm....

[zagonielod]

keep us up to date about the B-fast diff nicefrog! i will order some body parts in the appropriate future, and maybe a diff too.

[nicefrog]

I've got the B-fast diff in and running, amazing!. I'm so used to being paranoid that the diff is going to slip that it's going to take me a while to get over but this diff is solid as and verrrrrrrrry smooth. I swear there was 8 thrust balls in the kit but the site says there's 6. Anyway I just put in whatever there was so I wasn't counting. It's a very good thing

http://www.bfastrc.com/tqracing.html

[zagonielod]

I am glad to hear that nicefrog :) Congratulations to your new aquisition! fortunately, now with the stock brushed motor my diff works good too, but I think I also will buy a B-fast :)
So far I didn't get any spares for the Rat, because we will make a common order with the other MadRat owner. I also need a motor plate because mine seems to be bent-BTW, i have sold the gear cover screw problem with using a bit thicker screw.- I think I will buy a B4 FT motor plate with a gear cover, cas it seems to be cheaper for me than ordering something from outside and paying the postage.

[zagonielod]

guys, I don't want to look stupid, but I think I've just realized that in the B-fast kit i don't get a whole diff..... I don't get the outdrives, not the diff spur gear, and no thrust screw set.... I have to see how much would these cost me if I would get a AE FT set....

[nicefrog]

Now that I have a diff that wont slip and heaps of traction, I think I need a bigger motor lol. But since I will have the 4wd soon, I will get an ezrun 5.5 turn for that and put my 60amp esc in the 4wd, then get another smaller esc and use that in the truck. I'm very happy with the truck right now, it's got a full set of good screws and a good diff, it's pretty close to being perfect. If there was an RC club here I think it would be very competitive

[B-Fast R/C]

I've got the B-fast diff in and running, amazing!. I'm so used to being paranoid that the diff is going to slip that it's going to take me a while to get over but this diff is solid as and verrrrrrrrry smooth. I swear there was 8 thrust balls in the kit but the site says there's 6. Anyway I just put in whatever there was so I wasn't counting. It's a very good thing

http://www.bfastrc.com/tqracing.html

I am glad you like!
Thank you for finding the error on the web site. There are eight (8)
carbide thrust balls not six (6).
PM me your address and I will send you a little something. :thumbsup:

Fred

[kedal]

guys, I don't want to look stupid, but I think I've just realized that in the B-fast kit i don't get a whole diff..... I don't get the outdrives, not the diff spur gear, and no thrust screw set.... I have to see how much would these cost me if I would get a AE FT set....

Yes, but you have all of this on your mad rat kit :)
I think it worth the money because the ring and the ball of my 2 stock diff kit are dead or almost dead. The only things you need to replace are the ring and the ball, and, of course thrust. The hub, the spur, the screw are good.

[nicefrog]

Hi Fred, I don't really need any gifts for thanks about the thrust balls on the website, just being able to buy the diff kit is thanks enough, really. I can have a lot of fun driving the car now where before it could end up quite stressful once the diff started slipping :)

[kedal]

Whaou ! A man who dont want gift ! Very fairplay Nicefrog !

[nicefrog]

Nah, I already got a smooth running diff at a fair price and stickers! what more could you want in life :)?. I was driving the truck at midnight in the rain around the backyard track for 15 minutes with a torch for lighting I was so happy to have it running :). Tomorrow will be the Team C world championships backyard edition now that both cars run again :thumbsup:

[B-Fast R/C]

Nah, I already got a smooth running diff at a fair price and stickers! what more could you want in life :)?. I was driving the truck at midnight in the rain around the backyard track for 15 minutes with a torch for lighting I was so happy to have it running :). Tomorrow will be the Team C world championships backyard edition now that both cars run again :thumbsup:

Along with my thanks you also have my respect.
Possible to get a photo or two of your cars for the new web site?
If you send please include any credits due (photog, painter ...)
[email protected]

Fred

[nicefrog]

I could have taken macro pictures step by step of the diff install if you had of asked yesterday, but I hope now I wont have to pull it apart for a while :). I can do pictures of the cars driving and sitting together, however since we are going to be taking some high frame rate, high resolution slow motion videos of them any day now :D, I suspect that may be more awesome so if you can put videos embedded on the site you can use those once they are done. I'll be sure to get the B-Fast stickers stuck on somewhere first before the pictures and video :)

[nicefrog]

My TC04 is ordered :0, now the long wait for the postman begins. It'll be a while before I can afford to complete it with a nice saddle pack and a good motor and tyres but that gives me some time to consider my options and see what parts everyone else is breaking/wearing so I can order spares :). It'll be the machine to drive around during the Summer once the ground turns to dust and the traction goes away but right now I'm busy trying to wear out the Stadium Truck

[zagonielod]

hi guys! here's another question :) I've bought today some weights. 1x50g and 4x10g
How should I make a good weight distribution out of theese? adding slowly more and more weight and watching how the car handles? and where to put them? on the servo, on the sides? I know, it depends on the track I will run. But I thought, there is a standard thing which would help in any case. Thanks in advance!

[positronic]

got a new camera today, it's a bit grainy because it was getting dark, oh well will try again tomorrow, heres a clip of my tc02

<object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Ccy20rWZGR4&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Ccy20rWZGR4&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>

[kedal]

Yeah nice slowshot video !

Don't you have a too high ride height ?

[positronic]

Yeah nice slowshot video !

Don't you have a too high ride height ?

I don't know, I have the arms set to horizontal, should it be lower?
http://img.skitch.com/20100723-kpt3csgyyeu21e1qwh15p171x7.jpg

http://img.skitch.com/20100723-8t5nnccupw6pstcq9uffjrw3b8.jpg

[kedal]

Yes you are a little too high.
Front is almost good, I personnaly ride with the front arm a little low.

For the rear, the right height is with the bone level, not the arms.

Try it, and you will have more bite front and rear :)

[nicefrog]

Good tip :) my trucks a bit lower than that I think but I'll check it.
Going realllllly off in the off thread I just bought these E-Revo optional wide dish wheels

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXZRJ7&P=RH

Not for my Team C buggy.... But for my vintage rc10's, I've been looking for months for a wheel with an almost centered offset that will let me run 12mm hex with the hpi hex adapters and use a 2.2 inch buggy tyre, I think finally I've found the magic wheel. Exciting times to finally drive a vintage rc10 with good tyres :)

[positronic]

ok I lowered it, to kedal specifications, track was considerably looser today so it was hard to compare, but it handled well :)

made a new video of it too

<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/6BsvTlibFR8&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/6BsvTlibFR8&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>

[kedal]

New article on my blog :

http://rctouch.over-blog.com/article-montage-d-options-54397108.html

With pics for you Positronic to show you my ride height :)

[EDIT] Yeah, I love your video !! That's awesome to see how the suspension work, very very nice !!
Impressive crash also ! You didnt break anything ?

Could you post your suspension set up and your tires set up please ?

[positronic]

thanks kedal, nope didnt break anything. well cracked my wing guess it had to happen sooner or later, but I just stuck the BFast stickers on it the other day.

My tyres are Jconcepts goosebumps on the rear and carvers on the front, both super soft green compound, the suspension is all stock settings as per manual except the running the inner holes on the front hubs, 50grams lead on front servo, still has the kit oil etc

Bfast diff and 12.9 hardware only things Ive done to it.

Nicefrog broke the hub on the truck today though, ran straight into a boulder :thumbsup:

I'll go read your blog now

edit, my bad the fronts I have a Groovy's just checked.
read the blog you have a lot of good upgrades, whats the idler gear your using? I really need to get the aluminium hexes also

[kedal]

Ok positronic, JConcept make really good tires ;)

I bought the TCModels.net ilder gear, see their website, its cheap, the turnbuckle too !

Still happy with your bfast kit ?

What you mean "12.9 hardware" ??

[positronic]

I'll have to order some more stuff from tcmodels soon, Yep I love the BFast diff havn't had to adjust or worry about the diff at all since I got it

The 12.9 is the grade of the steel

"The lowest grade is 4.6, commonly known as commercial grade. Next comes grade 8.8, known as structural grade, and finally, the highest grade is 12.9, known as high tensile bolts."

They are very strong :)

[kedal]

Oh ok :)
Its the steel you put on the box or into the diff ?

What will you buy at TCModels ?

[positronic]

just all the hex screws in the car, we got them from here http://www.hexcrews.com/index.aspx

[nicefrog]

Nice blog article Kedal, I liked that, the metal idler sounds much different when running?.

I did break my Stadium Truck on the big Rock :P (In slow motion) It only tore the ball out of the side of the hub, so it was only minor damage.

The good news is my TC04 has been posted and is now somewhere between Hong Kong and Australia, in the end it only cost $150 usd +pp. I need to buy some good quality Hex heads screws for it and some extra shims for the diff. I think I'll make a build thread too since no one has done one yet

[ben44]

Very nice video, and nice blog to kedal.
I'm in holiday, and I can start to built mind.
i don't speak very well englih so see the picture :lol:
http://picasaweb.google.fr/sion.benjamin/XPro#

[notme]

Jason, pm me your address I will send you some extra shims I have.
Also I havent had any trouble with the kit screws, except for the 2wd/2wdT diff screws (small phillips head) Or are you looking for bling factor...?

[nicefrog]

I had problems with a couple of the screws on each kit. But I wasn't using a full size hex head to start the thread beforehand and I am now. Still they are soft screws and that annoyed me. I like everything to be as invincible as a mid 90s Associated so I wanted really hard hex head screws, I worked for an engineer for a while so I kinda expect allen bolts/screws to be pretty much unbreakable and rated to grade 12.9 like they are supposed to be. Now every screw in the cars is grade 12.9 including the diff screw and I'm more happy :).

During all this we discovered that a T8? torx bit will grab a worn out 2mm allen head so we've been doing up and removing everything with the torx now and that stops any problem. But still I like the higher grade screws to be in the cars :) at least then I know I can undo them 1000 times without having to need a new one. Is there a part number for the shims, or do they come with the diff gears? if not I'll take you up on the offer but we are doing a tcmodels order soon so a part number will work :)

I crashed the Stadium truck full speed into a boulder the other day and riped one of the turnbuckles and balls out of the hub :) I've "done a zagonielod" and super glued it for the moment :) The buggy still refuses to break anything.... ever and that's been barrel rolled 10 meters down the track 200 times

[zagonielod]

where do you get those screws nicefrog?

[kedal]

Good news for me : I win an auction on ebay to buy a used Tekin RS, 90€, 96€ shipped from France.
Shipped tomorrow :)

But I now need a good capacitor... looking for a good one during this week.

[zagonielod]

ouch! good for you my friend :) congratulations! you hardly could want more than a Tekin RS.

[positronic]

the screws were from http://www.hexcrews.com/index.aspx

they don't have a set though, we had to put each screw in the cart, took ages.

I stripped a couple of those shallow countersunk ones that hold the front bumper/skid on when building the kit. Really if your'e having no problem with the screws there is no need to replace them

[zagonielod]

All the screws on hexcrews are 12.9 ? Looks a bit difficult to navigate on the site...

[positronic]

All the screws on hexcrews are 12.9 ? Looks a bit difficult to navigate on the site...

your'e right it's not the easiest site to navigate, they sell 12.9 and 12.9 AP (armour plated)

short vid Of nicefrogs truck
<object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/foUG1Ax1rxQ&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xd0d0d0&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/foUG1Ax1rxQ&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xd0d0d0&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>

[rob martin]

Good news for me : I win an auction on ebay to buy a used Tekin RS, 90€, 96€ shipped from France.
Shipped tomorrow :)

But I now need a good capacitor... looking for a good one during this week.

Nice. The tekins a nice unit:)

[kedal]

Hehe, can't wait to test it !


Well, today, I have tested the both Flip Out and Double Dee's tire on my club track, very slippy because a lot of dust :

The Flip Out are not bad, BUT, the Double Dee's are soooo much better : a lot of traction, a lot of motricity, also a lot of side grip, and a very good durability !
THIS is the tire I choose for now !

In the front, I tested the Groovy and the Rounder :

Rounder has less grip overall, perfect if you have too much steering, or in a grippy track.
Groovy has a lot of grip, perfect for my slippy track.

Groovy in the front and Double Dee's on the rear : the perfect couple !
Very good streering, very good motricity.
(dont forget I have a specific weight distribution !!!)

About the alu ilder gear, nothing specific to say, maybe a different noise, but nothing more, nothing less.

[positronic]

Hehe, can't wait to test it !


Well, today, I have tested the both Flip Out and Double Dee's tire on my club track, very slippy because a lot of dust :

The Flip Out are not bad, BUT, the Double Dee's are soooo much better : a lot of traction, a lot of motricity, also a lot of side grip, and a very good durability !
THIS is the tire I choose for now !

In the front, I tested the Groovy and the Rounder :

Rounder has less grip overall, perfect if you have too much steering, or in a grippy track.
Groovy has a lot of grip, perfect for my slippy track.

Groovy in the front and Double Dee's on the rear : the perfect couple !
Very good streering, very good motricity.
(dont forget I have a specific weight distribution !!!)

About the alu ilder gear, nothing specific to say, maybe a different noise, but nothing more, nothing less.

did you have goosebumps? i'd be interested to see how they compared to double dee's in the dust

[kedal]

I have had goose bump, and I loved it, but very less than the double dees.

IMO, double dee's and big shot are the best in the dust (i dont have tried Hole shot)
and goose bump/flip out and Step In are very good in mud or on a grippy track.

[positronic]

I have had goose bump, and I loved it, but very less than the double dees.

IMO, double dee's and big shot are the best in the dust (i dont have tried Hole shot)
and goose bump/flip out and Step In are very good in mud or on a grippy track.

nice thanks , I'll have to pick up some double dee's for summer :thumbsup:

[rob martin]

Yea kedal the jconcepts dd's are nice. The flipouts are good also!

[kedal]

Yeah Rob, you have both of them on your 4wd, no chance to be disapointed ;)

[kedal]

A little mod to put my Tekin RS like my Ezrun esc :

http://img.over-blog.com/600x400/1/93/00/26/SDC10781.JPG

http://img.over-blog.com/600x400/1/93/00/26/SDC10782.JPG

[notme]

I dont recall if Ive mentioned this, but man am I happy with the truck! Just a little tuning and its awesome. I drilled out the pistons to 4 hole just for the rear, 30wt, some ride hight tweaking. It handles great, easy to drive like the 4wd. Only thing is I keep breaking t plates. I ran out of spares so I reglued it and made an aluminum reinforcement plate. Apparently, theres a flaw in the design at the back part of the chassis, where the hinge pin holder mounts. When installed and tightened down, it induces a slight bend in the plate, making it susceptible to breakage.
A trophy race a few weekends ago, first ever race with the truck, I qualified 3rd behind a couple regular fast guys. In the single main I was in a pileup and was last at the start (10th) but worked my way up to 4th and was gaining on 3rd. I was quite happy with the results. Not bad for a $99 kit!

[nicefrog]

I reckon the truck is relatively faster than the buggy (versus the other brands), we can do the same times in the truck as the buggy, still haven't broken a T piece on any of them though, it surely must be an issue that comes to the surface on very hard tracks or something like that because I can crash them as hard as I want, land right on the back of the car etc and not even look like breaking one, everything just flexes a bit

[nicefrog]

Wake up guys:0, well since everyone's asleep amd Kedal and Rob love Double D's I have some on the way, tyres that is, (My wife over heard us ordering Double Dee's and said you better buy me some too) so that was the funny part of the story

[turbosimi]

Hello guys!
I´m also tuning my mad rat! Now it has losi xxx cr shocks and lunsford turnbuckles!
Now i´m working on a 5mm aluminium front shock tower:)
Have you any tips for other upgrades?
Thanks Simon

ps sorry for my bad english:thumbdown:

[nicefrog]

Simon, sounds good, I only upgrade things when they break, but I'd like to see a picture of your shock tower one day.

My 4wd is in the country, I should have it in 2 days, 3 at the latest :). I also forgot to mention, I ordered the sway bar kit from tcmodels. Hopefully next time I need to order something the mid motor chassis for the 2wd will be finished :D

[kedal]

Turbosimi :
Check my blog, I talk about hop up I use and some mod I made.

I also use Losi shocks, check my set up ;)

I think you bought also a bearing ball kit, so, after the shock, the important hop up is the optionnal motor plate, really stronger than the stock one !

Well, maybe the alu hex, very good to use, but that's all you need to make the Mad Rat a competitive car.

[zagonielod]

I've just seen kedal signing in into y messenger, and suddenly came the ideea to share with you guys, that I've finished 4th against B4s, B4.1s, stadium trucks and so on. (well.... the MadRat friend has finished 2nd, but hes older in this as I am :P )this saturday in our 3rd round :D 2 more to go. After all I didn't buy the PL 4 ribs, I've bought some Ballistic Buggy Studs. Added 70gr of weight and firmed up front suspention, set camber and caster.... so lot of work :) But it worth it. From now on it will be only better and better.
Cheers ;)

[kedal]

Good job elod !
A little work on the car makes a lot of difference on the track.

I tried the inner hole on the rear arms and I've got a lot more grip.

[positronic]

I've just seen kedal signing in into y messenger, and suddenly came the ideea to share with you guys, that I've finished 4th against B4s, B4.1s, stadium trucks and so on. (well.... the MadRat friend has finished 2nd, but hes older in this as I am :P )this saturday in our 3rd round :D 2 more to go. After all I didn't buy the PL 4 ribs, I've bought some Ballistic Buggy Studs. Added 70gr of weight and firmed up front suspention, set camber and caster.... so lot of work :) But it worth it. From now on it will be only better and better.
Cheers ;)

good work!

I ordered some parts from TCmodels on friday, where waiting at the post office when I woke up, got to love how fast TC is.

already got them installed on the buggy.
http://img.skitch.com/20100802-1t1dc95bmf48739j52mj8cna2b.jpg

[zagonielod]

good for you positronic :) I also ran with alu hexes in the front, cas the MadRat friend had 2 which he didn't use now.
Have to work up some supplys. I have prepared a list, which will be brought from Viena, Austria, and after that I'll see what else do I need. I think I will stick with the MadRat for at least on e more season. I want to learn to drive 2WD buggies well. After that I probably will buy a B44, or a truck.

[nicefrog]

TC04 is here!:), I'll start building it later. Last time I had 4WD RC was an Optima mid but I never had enough money to buy a quality a esc and motor at the time to do it justice so I sold it. I regretted that ever since. I'm sure this will be a faster car than that so it will cure the emotional wounds a bit :). The parts look good

[positronic]

TC04 is here!:), I'll start building it later. Last time I had 4WD RC was an Optima mid but I never had enough money to buy a quality a esc and motor at the time to do it justice so I sold it. I regretted that ever since. I'm sure this will be a faster car than that so it will cure the emotional wounds a bit :). The parts look good

awesome can't wait to see it

[zagonielod]

Hey guys, if anybody would like to see some vids of our races, search on youtube for username FXracingMures :)

[positronic]

those doubles sure look troublesome for the buggys:(

[kedal]

The tracks looks pretty good !
But the problem is the double... Wonder if it's on the right way. The first jump look too small to jump well...

How is the grip on your track ?

[zagonielod]

That is only a temporary track in another city. That's not our track. It has pretty good grip on parts, after that comes some dusty part where you just loose grip instantly, after that some grass which brakes you very hard, and after that you start it all up again :P
that double was i was complaining about so much. It means than that it wasn't only my fault that I couldn't jump it. 4WD had no problem on it thou....

[positronic]

That is only a temporary track in another city. That's not our track. It has pretty good grip on parts, after that comes some dusty part where you just loose grip instantly, after that some grass which brakes you very hard, and after that you start it all up again :P
that double was i was complaining about so much. It means than that it wasn't only my fault that I couldn't jump it. 4WD had no problem on it thou....

4wd are easier to jump, you just change the throttle to change the angle of the car in the air.

The short course trucks looked to jump it well though

[kedal]

Not at home for one week from tomorrow.

Get to training today, the Tekin RS works very well !
I broke a rear hub, but also I broke the alloy intermediare gear ! Totally destroyed, pic later next week.
I dont know if its only my piece or its a "normal" issue" but I'm a little mad about it !
I put the stock one back, and it works very well.

The car was very good and I confirm, the Double Dee's are very good tires !

[nicefrog]

Bad luck about the idler gear, I wonder if anyone else has broken one. Better tell tcmodels it needs to be stronger, bit more alloy maybe?. In the meantime you can get steel ones from the states http://outfrontframes.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=312&products_id=1133

[Jaune]

The factory already made an alu idler gear. The hpi blitz idler is a direct fit also.

[positronic]

The factory already made an alu idler gear. The hpi blitz idler is a direct fit also.

thats the one he broke, the factory upgrade

[nicefrog]

It's the new factory alloy one that hes just smashed :0!, good to know the hpi one fits :)

[ben44]

I prefer to use the normal one it's less heavy

[positronic]

nicefrog came around for a race today, my tc02 buggy is going great but nicefrogs truck broke as soon as we got started :bored:

http://img.skitch.com/20100810-k9jr7bpahtud78gxp5yxkfkt7c.jpg

[nicefrog]

I was just driving slow too and ....... My wheel tipped over :eh?: ahah, but it probably happened on one of the previous laps, I think there's not enough plastic around the edge of those holes, another 1mm might be enough

[ben44]

nicefrog came around for a race today, my tc02 buggy is going great but nicefrogs truck broke as soon as we got started :bored:

http://img.skitch.com/20100810-k9jr7bpahtud78gxp5yxkfkt7c.jpg
For this i use the long ball stud, When i build my X pro i find the other very short

[nicefrog]

For this i use the long ball stud, When i build my X pro i find the other very short

Yeah I thought a long ball stud will fix this :) next time I will change it

[positronic]

I noticed on the front brass weight hopup it says on the stickers that come with it says TC04T

now wouldnt that be cool a pro 4wd stadium truck

[ben44]

On my X pro I do a test with the Kyosho piston.
I putt the 2B on front and the 3B on the rear, with the losi 27.5
This is too smooth with huile to you use, more on the front than in the rear.

[kedal]

I just ordered a BFast diff complet kit with the lub.
Hope I will received it for my next week race :)

[positronic]

the Bfast is great, I havnt had to adjust my diff at all since I put it in.

[kedal]

2 small videos not very interesting of my Mad Rat bashing in a garden :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTNeyWAv25g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaVWdBxF8oI

[ben44]

Nice video, please give the information about the B fas diff when you receveid them.

Did you do some test with the Tekin on the track?

[kedal]

Yes, I've done some test with the tekin, no problem with it, good speed, good progressivity and no heat (5th led max)
I love it, but I dont really see difference between the ezrun esc.

[Jaune]

Kedal, Do you have the hotwire? The tekin is good but you can add so much power once awaken with the hotwire.

[kedal]

No John, because I only use old G4 Mac, so no window to use hotwire.
I enjoy the Tekin without it, so it's ok for now :)

[marcel]

with the hotwire you can unlease the beast
now its just another speedo:)

[kedal]

Maybe one day I could use the Hotwire ;)

Here's a pic of my reinforced part of my car, alloy 2mm :

http://free0.hiboox.com/vignettes/3310/69792c983fe329ee04db078323221e2a.jpg (http://www.hiboox.fr/go/images/auto-moto/sdc10905,69792c983fe329ee04db078323221e2a.jpg.html )


And a pic of the alloy ilder gear hardly broken :

http://free0.hiboox.com/vignettes/3310/e291c50c0d503e6de328a90857894ae9.jpg (http://www.hiboox.fr/go/images/auto-moto/sdc10904,e291c50c0d503e6de328a90857894ae9.jpg.html )
http://www.oople.com/forums/%3Ca%20href=http://www.hiboox.fr/go/images/auto-moto/sdc10904,e291c50c0d503e6de328a90857894ae9.jpg.html %20target=_blank%3E[img]http://free0.hiboox.com/images/3310/e291c50c0d503e6de328a90857894ae9.jpg

[ben44]

Did you know if there is a difference of weigh betewn this ilder gear, and the srock one? I don't undustand why in metal it's will be better :confused:

[kedal]

The metal one is very light, but I think like the stock one.
I tought the metal gear was for the solidity but... no :)

[kedal]

I just make a little mod on my Mad Rat to have a full bearing ball steering :

http://images4.hiboox.com/vignettes/3310/876414d59623fd5cb60f3ec88c5fca45.jpg (http://www.hiboox.fr/go/images/auto-moto/sdc10909,876414d59623fd5cb60f3ec88c5fca45.jpg.html )

http://images4.hiboox.com/vignettes/3310/4ce1e5bdde514d9f7d171e79ec046aee.jpg (http://www.hiboox.fr/go/images/auto-moto/sdc10910,4ce1e5bdde514d9f7d171e79ec046aee.jpg.html )

http://images4.hiboox.com/vignettes/3310/abce78e8fc2e444bc6048a8e8a890fae.jpg (http://www.hiboox.fr/go/images/auto-moto/sdc10913,abce78e8fc2e444bc6048a8e8a890fae.jpg.html )

I drill the stocks holes to 6mm to put the standard steering bearing ball, no shim, no more clearance.

I'll test this mod on sunday during the race.

[kedal]

I've done my local race today, the car was very good, the bfast diff is soooo good, I TQ's and finish 3rd overall.

Very good race, but just a few driver, some very good also.

My steering mod didnt broke, and my reinforcement spare dont very mod the handling of the car.

[ben44]

Did you know if some Team C / Ansmann driver are at the europeean race?

[kedal]

woody maybe ?

[jflaci]

Hi guys!

I just wanted to let you know that i placed second in general after 4 races (the 5.th was cancelled due to bad weather) in Fx Racing Electric Open Stock class.

The winner of the class was a HPI stadium truck, so between the buggies the Madrat helped me in front of 2 B4-s. :thumbsup:

The podium picture:
http://www.rhcforum.ro/index.php?s=&showtopic=26744&view=findpost&p=418898

Cheers,

Laci

PS: Elod could not come to this race, but he borrowed to me his car (thanks again) for parts :D.

[zagonielod]

This way I can say at least that I have a share of that 2nd place :P
Congrats Laci! Next year I will catch you ;)

[kedal]

Congrat guys !!

[nicefrog]

Does the RB5 transmission/gearbox case fit straight in ? it really looks like it might, or at least with a couple other Kyosho parts?

[nicefrog]

I also got bored the other day while waiting for the mid motor parts so I made my madrat into a "long rat" with a spare truck chassis. I might drive it in a few days, I also have the front arms on back to front, but like this it's slightly too long fro ROAR rules but as far as I can tell would be legal under IFMAR. Anyway I think I'll spin the arms back around yet before I run it :) then it will be ROAR legal *just*. The turning circle is no good but I think for me it might be faster than the stock chassis since it'll be more stable and I can't drive like a pro anyway

[nicefrog]

I have driven the long rat! :) it goes pretty good, I think with some setting up it'll be fast but right now my old RC10 that I also drove is probably faster.

Here's the RC10, Positronic might put the long rat video later

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DjrOqolrYQ

[positronic]

Here is the mad rat video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec1W2TqJQiQ
<object width="640" height="505"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/ec1W2TqJQiQ?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US&amp;color1=0x234900&amp;color2=0 x4e9e00"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ec1W2TqJQiQ?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US&amp;color1=0x234900&amp;color2=0 x4e9e00" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="505"></embed></object>

[Benjab]

Hey! I just wanted to say that i just ordered my madrat kit! I cant wait to start building it! I also bought bearings, wheels and a ansmann 2.4ghz system!

By the way nice video Positronic!

[positronic]

Hey! I just wanted to say that i just ordered my madrat kit! I cant wait to start building it! I also bought bearings, wheels and a ansmann 2.4ghz system!

By the way nice video Positronic!

thanks, enjoy the madrat they are pretty quick

[rob martin]

Couple of late night boring mods. Switched up the battery mount on my 2wd and my truck

heres my 2wd. Sorry for the cellphone pics.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a332/shhiknow/1.jpg




Heres my truck.


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a332/shhiknow/11.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a332/shhiknow/111.jpg

[ben44]

I happy, my x pro won the is 1st reginal race in rookie / promotion class (motor 10.5). I was alone with this car, i have the T carbone plate in option no more. I've buy the lest sytème but it's ot arrived so i but some plomb on the car.
The track was in astro you can find some picture.
http://picasaweb.google.fr/sion.benjamin/MaisonsAlfort190910#

[kedal]

Congrat ben !!

My next race is the next sunday.

Oh, and I do on-road now, with an Xray, I love it :)

[fotko]

I won this weekend B-final here in Slovakia with MadRat
I had problems with my brushless speedo, so I used old 19z brushed motor.
I used TRF shocks,TQ racing front parts,home-made T-plate reinforment,3racing plastic wing

Here are few pics:
http://www.rcchampions.sk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=771&Itemid=41

[zagonielod]

Congratulations to all the winners! You guys are making us proud and give us ambition to push our limits, knowing that the car can do it, and if something goes wrong, it is not the car but ourselves ;)

[nicefrog]

Slovakia looks awesome, I could fit right in there :)

[ben44]

Just some question :
- The spring black with the kit are bettewen the the blue and red?
- the front block caster are 25 or 30°?
- I would like to butt the rear bloc, but they are differante bettewen the plastique one. How many Mm we have to putt to arrived at the A/B and for the C/D. The plastique C is the A or B on the alumunium ?
- If i dont do nothing for anti squat, how many ° I have? You change it on the font like a B4?

[ben44]

Just some question :
- The spring black with the kit are bettewen the the blue and red?
- the front block caster are 25 or 30°?
- I would like to butt the rear bloc, but they are differante bettewen the plastique one. How many Mm we have to putt to arrived at the A/B and for the C/D. The plastique C is the A or B on the alumunium ?
- If i dont do nothing for anti squat, how many ° I have? You change it on the font like a B4?
Nobody can help me?

[Battle_axe]

Nobody can help me?

Sorry mate

The front hubs are 30
The springs I am not to sure about
I don't understand the other question

[zagonielod]

We've got our first set of spares with jflaci. We have ordered them from Wien. No upgrade parts, only stock AR spares, but the feeling that if something brakes, I will have the spare to change it, is pretty nice :)
We will try later to make some upgrade parts, such as alu motor mount or front plate, T piece etc. But it is for now the story of the future :)
On the picture only my set of spares :)

[kedal]

Elod, I think you have everything you need !

[ben44]

Sorry mate

The front hubs are 30
The springs I am not to sure about
I don't understand the other question
If with the plastic rear bloc I use the place B, on the aluminum which place I have to use (B or C) and how many Mm i have to use to arrive at the same level plastique.

[ben44]

Springs go in this order, from softest to stiffest:

Black
Purple
Red
Blue
Silver

But i never see the Silver spring.

[alvinchia3]

Here's a pic of my reinforced part of my car, alloy 2mm :

http://free0.hiboox.com/vignettes/3310/69792c983fe329ee04db078323221e2a.jpg (http://www.hiboox.fr/go/images/auto-moto/sdc10905,69792c983fe329ee04db078323221e2a.jpg.html )


May I know which website could i get the alloy plate... i've broke too much till i scared already :)

http://free0.hiboox.com/vignettes/3310/e291c50c0d503e6de328a90857894ae9.jpg (http://www.hiboox.fr/go/images/auto-moto/sdc10904,e291c50c0d503e6de328a90857894ae9.jpg.html )
http://www.oople.com/forums/%3Ca%20href=http://www.hiboox.fr/go/images/auto-moto/sdc10904,e291c50c0d503e6de328a90857894ae9.jpg.html %20target=_blank%3E[img]http://free0.hiboox.com/images/3310/e291c50c0d503e6de328a90857894ae9.jpg[/QUOTE]

[kedal]

This is a home made T piece, you can do the same if you want, this is only a piece come over the stock plastic one or buy a carbon T piece to TCModels.net

[ben44]

I do a test with a reinforced, but this change the car, and not really in the good way.
In the font you can use the new part with a big reinforced inside, no problem (for sure she can brake like all other piece and brand)

For the rear use this:
http://www.tcmodels.net/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=361&category_id=49&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=71
Like this you reduce the flex, and you dont brake the rear T plate.
If you drive where you can have gripp like indoor, carpet, astro, bue grove, yhe best is tu putt the rear carbon T plate.

[dapanz]

Hi guys, first I’d like to thank you all for the great and many advices you gave in this forum. On April I decided to start racing after many years bashing around, mainly with Tamiya cars. I didn’t want to be one of the many B4 guys and didn’t want to spend too much money, so I chose to buy two Mad Rat, one for racing and the other one for spares (a great combo from Germany for less than € 100, S&H included!!!). Then I started to upgrade it with full ball bearings, B4 Factory Team shocks, springs and titanium turnbuckles, Ansmann alu motor mount, front arm mount, 30° front hub carrier and 12mm hex drive, Ansmann 10T brushless system, Savox low profile SC1251MG servo. After few practice rounds at a local race truck I decided to add 30gr. using Core RC weights at the front to reduce understeering in low speed corners and I found out to prefer JConcepts Groovy front tires to the Proline 4-Rib ones. For rear tires I use Team Losi Big Shot that I think are better than JConcepts Goose Bumps or Proline Hole Shot. One of the biggest upgrade was the B-Fast diff and to follow the TQ Racing setting guide. This summer I’ve made my first race, the Italian 2WD Off Road Championship, not the savviest idea since I was the only rookie out of more than 70 racers and many of them were skeptical about my presence (few of them even annoyed). Anyway I ended the day 53rd after 5 qualifying rounds and 3 finals, always increasing lap totals while lowering lap times (those of the last final would have put me in the C final). The car was perfect, smooth and fast, with great handling and balance and probably in better hands would have had a much better result, but I didn’t broke anything and I’ve beaten many B4s and Cougars and more experienced drivers. By the way the 2nd overall was an X Pro (2nd, 2nd and 1st in the A finals). Next steps will be to practice, practice and practice even more, to try big bore shocks from TC Models and Panther front (Lynx 2) and rear (Raptor) tires and to work on some cool paintjobs.

[kedal]

Great summary of your passion !!

I'm glad to ear that, enjoy the Mad Rat, improve it etc.

Congrat also on your italian championship result ! Not bad at all, and as you say, practice is your friend !

I love too the big shot tires, and the groovy front.

[ben44]

Hi guys, first I’d like to thank you all for the great and many advices you gave in this forum. On April I decided to start racing after many years bashing around, mainly with Tamiya cars. I didn’t want to be one of the many B4 guys and didn’t want to spend too much money, so I chose to buy two Mad Rat, one for racing and the other one for spares (a great combo from Germany for less than € 100, S&H included!!!). Then I started to upgrade it with full ball bearings, B4 Factory Team shocks, springs and titanium turnbuckles, Ansmann alu motor mount, front arm mount, 30° front hub carrier and 12mm hex drive, Ansmann 10T brushless system, Savox low profile SC1251MG servo. After few practice rounds at a local race truck I decided to add 30gr. using Core RC weights at the front to reduce understeering in low speed corners and I found out to prefer JConcepts Groovy front tires to the Proline 4-Rib ones. For rear tires I use Team Losi Big Shot that I think are better than JConcepts Goose Bumps or Proline Hole Shot. One of the biggest upgrade was the B-Fast diff and to follow the TQ Racing setting guide. This summer I’ve made my first race, the Italian 2WD Off Road Championship, not the savviest idea since I was the only rookie out of more than 70 racers and many of them were skeptical about my presence (few of them even annoyed). Anyway I ended the day 53rd after 5 qualifying rounds and 3 finals, always increasing lap totals while lowering lap times (those of the last final would have put me in the C final). The car was perfect, smooth and fast, with great handling and balance and probably in better hands would have had a much better result, but I didn’t broke anything and I’ve beaten many B4s and Cougars and more experienced drivers. By the way the 2nd overall was an X Pro (2nd, 2nd and 1st in the A finals). Next steps will be to practice, practice and practice even more, to try big bore shocks from TC Models and Panther front (Lynx 2) and rear (Raptor) tires and to work on some cool paintjobs.

Nice result for your 1st race. Enjoy to continu.
did do your race on outdoor or indoor? Where did you can find picture?

[dapanz]

I normally race outdoor since there are 4 nice race tracks just near my home town. If you'd like to find few pictures of the race you can go to photo-r.it or you can check my showroom at Tamiyaclub.com (search for Midnight Man even if pics are not updated). I've just bought two new cars: one will be a racer (X4 Pro) while the other one (Royal Flash, yellow body color) will be a basher. Any good advice? (for the X4 I've bought Kyosho Velvet Triple Cap shocks, Ansmann 8T brushless system and Proline Hole Shot front and rear tires)

[fearo]

Let's kick this one up a little.

What has everyone been doing to their cars lately?
I bougt some 3racing ZX-5 shocks, with some genuine kyosho pistons and springs. I haven't tried them yet because I broke my arm while racing mototcross :thumbdown:.

I also bought some Fastrax Turfripper tyres, which are very good for the price I think. I tried them just before I got hurt and I was impressed, especially for the price.

[ben44]

My X pro / tc 02, Tq and won the stock class in france, the race will be indoor with carpet and the floor of the hall.
I'm using the base set-up box. I'v change :

Front
Piston : 3B kysoho
Oil : 40
spring : blue
1MM under the ball
Stagger slim

Rear
Piston : 3A kyosho
Oil : 35
Spring : red
Carbon T plate
Mini pin, form medium shum

In the end of the day the temperature will be too cold, and the car will be a little bite more hard to drive. For the next race i will putt 35 front and 30 in rear.
I'm happy to change my B4 for the TC02.

[jflaci]

Hi guys!

I just wanted to let you know, that I placed second on a short
race Fx electric open, which was not included in the year calendar.

The weather was fine, but short, as we did only one qualifiying and
3 final rounds.

Cheers,

Laci.

PS: My MadRat behaved well, didn't break any parts.

[kedal]

Well done jflaci !

[jflaci]

Hi guys,

we are preparing for the winter series, first time we have the surface to
do that :). So we will race on carpet, i am waiting suggestions for setup
of the Madrat for that kind of surface.

We will also have a 2 hour andurance race, any suggestions for that?

Laci

[RC Cut]

good idea i am looking for a suplyer of 3mm cf or 4/5mm G10 sheet anyone know where i can get this? also expect me to be creating a "PRO" master smacker:thumbsup:

4/5mm ? Is it 0.8mm thickness ?