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Mossy
07-11-2010, 06:47 PM
Just seen a post on RedRC that Efra have released their official dates for next year. Looks like France it is.

mikeyscott
07-11-2010, 07:23 PM
South France v nice

May see if the Mrs fancies a two week south of france holiday so I can pop in and watch a day or two

fouadouille
07-11-2010, 07:53 PM
not v nice
PAU 30 kms at LOURDES
PAU 100 Kms at BARRITZ
:)

GRIFF55
07-11-2010, 09:12 PM
should be a better drive than the one to vienna:thumbsup:

Cooper
07-11-2010, 09:28 PM
ou est la piscine? :D

Belsten
07-11-2010, 09:54 PM
and no one to abuse whulst theyre sleeping on the way back :lol:

Someone else will need to fly the back flip mantle next year :cry:

neiloliver
07-11-2010, 10:10 PM
I have a good customer in Pau. I think Ryan fly there but not every day. I have flown with Air France via Lyon but it's not budget. or you can get the 24hr ferry to Santander or Bilbao and drive back up into France.

GRIFF55
07-11-2010, 10:13 PM
dont be like that bav, we'll get a faster car this year!!! (bigger sweets too;))

NitroArgi
08-11-2010, 01:17 PM
Anyone knows the web site of the track...I am into searching hotel pricing...

fouadouille
08-11-2010, 07:09 PM
M.R.C.P
http://clubmrcp.blogspot.com/2010_05_01_archive.html

DaveG28
30-03-2011, 07:21 PM
So, who's going to this then?

R666REW
30-03-2011, 08:36 PM
if they let me :-0

_JP_
30-03-2011, 08:44 PM
Mossy I wonder if it would be as much fun as the last French euros?
"C is for cookie" lol

matdodd
30-03-2011, 09:08 PM
:lol: poor Jonesy!

ben
30-03-2011, 10:17 PM
see you there :thumbsup:

JCJC
31-03-2011, 07:01 AM
Pau info from last weeks Telegraph travel section,

'City Jet (0871 6633 777; www.cityjet.com) starts services from London City Airport on April 2, with a return flight costing from £75, while Flybe (0871 700 2000; www.flybe.com) has flights from Southampton Airport from May 25 (from £80 return).'

James
02-08-2011, 07:25 AM
Who else is going to this from the UK? British contingent seems a bit lower than Austria last year..

Hulk
02-08-2011, 08:35 AM
Ill defo be going! Got to do at least one euro's before im too old lol.

Anyone got any pictures of the track? Tried the link to the website but it doesnt wrk for me.

wacattack
02-08-2011, 08:55 AM
Ill defo be going! Got to do at least one euro's before im too old lol.

Anyone got any pictures of the track? Tried the link to the website but it doesnt wrk for me.


You're going to this? Do you know you arent booked into it and its this month?

Hulk
02-08-2011, 09:13 AM
Haha! my bad. ive done a you and not read the first post from Mossy properly. Thought this was for next year! oops.

wacattack
02-08-2011, 09:23 AM
Haha! my bad. ive done a you and not read the first post from Mossy properly. Thought this was for next year! oops.

Idiot

lochness42
02-08-2011, 10:56 AM
Well apparently it will be held in Austria again next year. Unless club organising euros has two tracks then it will be held on same track as nitro EC-A in same year. Uhm and if you look for some vids from track belonging to that club - even 1:5 EFRA offroad GP was held on that track - now try to imagine how big that track will be for 1:10 scale :o

NitroArgi
02-08-2011, 11:06 AM
I can confirm that Euros 2012 will be held in Austria...Do you know the name of the club???

Oli_M
02-08-2011, 11:59 AM
RC Racing TV will be at the Euros again this year. I had a great time at the event last year so looking forward to this one. If you're there, make sure you pop over and say hi to us! If not, you'll be able to get all our videos at www.EFRA.ws (http://www.EFRA.ws) !

As for the 2012 Euros - I believe the venue that is currently being considered is Fehring. This was the host of the 2010 Large Scale buggy euros. Loads of our videos from that event are on the EFRA website at www.EFRA.ws (http://www.EFRA.ws).

lochness42
02-08-2011, 09:20 PM
Fehring http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB3u_bWHzT4&feature=related
Uhm and club's homepage http://www.wmw-fehring.at/

James
03-08-2011, 09:21 AM
whos going?

mikeyscott
17-08-2011, 10:55 AM
whos going?

My thoughts too, who flying the flag for the UK team..

RudeTony
17-08-2011, 12:46 PM
whos going?

See you there! - Don't forget to organise your bags with Jon

ben
17-08-2011, 12:54 PM
List of people i think are going

Neil Cragg
Paul Bradby
Ben Jemison
Lee Martin
Tom Cockinhand
Evdoka
John Spencer
Grant Williams
Simon Moss
Danny Magoo
James Helliwell
Gareth Stanton?
Dave poulter

super__dan
17-08-2011, 01:15 PM
That's a strong team, good luck boys!

mikeyscott
17-08-2011, 02:17 PM
List of people i think are going

Neil Cragg
Paul Bradby
Ben Jemison
Lee Martin
Tom Cockinhand
Evdoka
John Spencer
Grant Williams
Simon Moss
Danny Magoo
James Helliwell
Gareth Stanton?
Dave poulter

Satfford too I think. FS2, X7 or 511

Good luck :)

ben
17-08-2011, 04:09 PM
And Ellis Stafford :thumbsup:

KRob
17-08-2011, 04:19 PM
Drivers entered as of two weeks ago:

Lee Martin
Tom Cockeril
Paul Bradby
Ellis Stafford
Simon Moss
Tom Yardy
Grant Williams
Danny McGee
James Heliwell
Ben Jemison
John Spencer
David Poulter
Steve Lawson
Gareth Stanton
Tony Evdoka
Elliot Boots
Neil Cragg

Gaz_Stanton
17-08-2011, 04:21 PM
Yep Ben, I'm going. :thumbsup:

And you forgot Yardy

mw02veg
17-08-2011, 05:34 PM
What about you Keith?

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

KRob
18-08-2011, 08:21 PM
Nah, wouldn't want to knock you down another spot :p

Weather forecast for Pau on Sat 36C :woot:

Danny McGee
19-08-2011, 06:57 AM
I'm fully aware this is late notice but can chance someone could bring some White spray paint with them? Ive got a body that needs painting when I get there and I'm already in Essex away from all my stuff.

Cheers in advanced

Danny

gazhillAE
19-08-2011, 08:21 AM
You're going to this? Do you know you arent booked into it and its this month?

Haha Funny as f**k !!!!
Good luck guys sure we will have the win again!

njc11
20-08-2011, 07:26 AM
Is Rob Nelson / BBK Timing in charge of this event?

If not where can we find coverge/results??

Oli_M
22-08-2011, 09:33 AM
www.myrcm.ch (http://www.myrcm.ch) will have all the "live" timing and results throughout the event.

RC Racing TV, the Official Media Partner of EFRA, will be on site from Tuesday lunchtime to cover the Qualifying and Finals of 2WD and of course the 4WD event too. You can find all of our coverage at www.EFRA.ws (http://www.EFRA.ws) including all the news, stories, video reports and race footage.

I'll also make sure I post as much as I can on oOple over the next few days. We're trying to increase the interactiveness (is that a word?) of our coverage, so also follow me on twitter @RCRacingOli and send me a message on there! I'll do my best to reply to all messages either online or in one of our videos ;)

TheReferee
22-08-2011, 09:35 AM
http://www.myrcm.ch/fr/clubmrcp/20110822_004002/2WD_EP10/index.html

for the times in practice, 5 brits in the top 10 after two rounds:thumbsup:

mikeyscott
22-08-2011, 09:39 AM
Cheers for the links.

mikeyscott
22-08-2011, 01:19 PM
No times from Boots and a few others, no shows?

savageracer1
22-08-2011, 01:31 PM
No times from Boots and a few others, no shows?


Boots was at the Pendle 8th National this weekend, so i'd imagine he will be a late showing :thumbsup:

KRob
22-08-2011, 02:57 PM
Elliott and James H have cancelled their entries, whether or not Elliott is coming for the 4wd I don't know.

It bloody hot over here so as usual the Brits have raided the local supermarket for electric fans :lol:

The track is VERY slippery when I last saw them in the fourth round of practice. As the timing shows both Neil and Bradders were looking quick - much of this time coming on the double double jump where they looked most confident with the cars compared to others.

Dudders
22-08-2011, 03:00 PM
56 second laps????????????????

Nick
22-08-2011, 03:08 PM
its the best 2 laps together!

http://www.myrcm.ch/fr/clubmrcp/20110822_004002/2WD_EP10/index.html

mikeyscott
22-08-2011, 03:12 PM
Elliott and James H have cancelled their entries, whether or not Elliott is coming for the 4wd I don't know.

It bloody hot over here so as usual the Brits have raided the local supermarket for electric fans :lol:

The track is VERY slippery when I last saw them in the fourth round of practice. As the timing shows both Neil and Bradders were looking quick - much of this time coming on the double double jump where they looked most confident with the cars compared to others.

That's a shame, hope they're coming for the 4WD as the UK squad is looking pretty strong :)

Dudders
22-08-2011, 03:12 PM
its the best 2 laps together!

http://www.myrcm.ch/fr/clubmrcp/20110822_004002/2WD_EP10/index.html


Oh!!! LOL Deeeeeeeeeeeer :o:D:cry:

trekkerkk
22-08-2011, 03:17 PM
the best 2 consecutive laps:thumbsup:


trekkker

tony6187
22-08-2011, 05:09 PM
whats the track surface?

niggs98
22-08-2011, 05:11 PM
im told moon craters and dust but may be wrong :P

mw02veg
22-08-2011, 05:22 PM
It's just starting to cool down now 32 wow its been hot. The surface is holding up pretty well slight blue grove.

dbizzle5
22-08-2011, 05:24 PM
Just found this vid of practice i think.

Track looks poor!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9YjBjFt8js

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qR_7s6GPyY&feature=related

PaulUpton
22-08-2011, 05:31 PM
Just found this vid of practice i think.

Track looks poor!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9YjBjFt8js

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qR_7s6GPyY&feature=related

Agreed, that first video says it's Paul Bradby :confused: the track must be really bad

trekkerkk
22-08-2011, 05:54 PM
all i can say the track looks awfull:mad:

trekkker

Fatal1ty
22-08-2011, 09:03 PM
Is oople at the event?

racingdwarf
22-08-2011, 09:19 PM
Hmm, track looks very loose and dusty,maybe the line will brush off and the grip will come up:confused:, that table top looks a pit funny, and the big jumps are way to spread for 10th.ok for club track..but euros:confused:

Dudders
22-08-2011, 09:24 PM
Maybe shows us how good the Finland Track was :confused:

Nick Goodall
23-08-2011, 08:57 AM
I don't think it looks too bad, i think that must have been an early run and would expect the dust to clear a bit and grip to come up...

You can't always get tracks as good as the Finland track, unfortunately it's always a bit pot luck with the Euro's, but I've seen far far worse - think it will get better and better!

TheReferee
23-08-2011, 12:59 PM
after first round of qualifying


1 CRAGG Neil UK 11 5:11.046 (0)
2 BRADBY Paul UK 11 5:14.530 (2)
3. NEUMANN Jörn DE 11 5:17.288 (3)
4. MARTIN Lee UK 11 5:17.390 (4)
5.PINISCH Peter AT 11 5:18.896 (5)
6. HÖNIGL Hubert AT 11 5:20.129 (6)
7. LANTHEAUME Armand FR 11 5:20.440 (7)
8. YARDY Tom UK 11 5:21.357 (8) -
9. STAFFORD Ellis UK 11 5:24.356 (9)
10. RHEINARD Marc DE 11 5:24.942 (10)

TheReferee
23-08-2011, 01:04 PM
selected others i.e the british:lol:

13 spencer
15 moss
19 poulter
22 mcgee
24 williams
30 jemison
39 stanton
54 cockerill
82 evdoka
89 lawson

IceMike
23-08-2011, 02:09 PM
Is anyone other than Yardy running the C4.1??

Wraggy
23-08-2011, 02:26 PM
2ND ROUND

1 CRAGG Neil UK 11 5:11.046 (0) 11 5:12.648 (2)
2 MARTIN Lee UK 11 5:17.390 (4) 11 5:10.338 (0)
3 NEUMANN Jörn DE 11 5:17.288 (3) 11 5:15.638 (3)
4 BRADBY Paul UK 11 5:14.530 (2) 11 5:31.527 (10)
5 YARDY Tom UK 11 5:21.357 (8) 11 5:20.482 (5)
6 ROSSETTI Antoine FR 11 5:27.116 (11) 11 5:19.445 (4)
7 LANTHEAUME Armand FR 11 5:20.440 (7) 11 5:25.742 (8)
8 STAFFORD Ellis UK 11 5:24.356 (9) 11 5:25.047 (7)
9 KREIL Martin AT 10 5:01.875 (17) 11 5:20.893 (6)
10 MOSS Simon UK 10 5:00.999 (15) 10 5:01.424 (11)

13 SPENCER John
21 STANTON Gareth
22 POULTER David
28 MCGEE Danny
31 COCKERILL Tom
35 JEMISON Ben
46 EVDOKA Tony
62 LAWSON Stephen
67 WILLIAMS Grant

TheReferee
23-08-2011, 03:07 PM
Is anyone other than Yardy running the C4.1??

possibly jemison and lawson?

Rich D
23-08-2011, 03:08 PM
Are you making a comeback Wraggy ? ;)


2ND ROUND

1 CRAGG Neil UK 11 5:11.046 (0) 11 5:12.648 (2)
2 MARTIN Lee UK 11 5:17.390 (4) 11 5:10.338 (0)
3 NEUMANN Jörn DE 11 5:17.288 (3) 11 5:15.638 (3)
4 BRADBY Paul UK 11 5:14.530 (2) 11 5:31.527 (10)
5 YARDY Tom UK 11 5:21.357 (8) 11 5:20.482 (5)
6 ROSSETTI Antoine FR 11 5:27.116 (11) 11 5:19.445 (4)
7 LANTHEAUME Armand FR 11 5:20.440 (7) 11 5:25.742 (8)
8 STAFFORD Ellis UK 11 5:24.356 (9) 11 5:25.047 (7)
9 KREIL Martin AT 10 5:01.875 (17) 11 5:20.893 (6)
10 MOSS Simon UK 10 5:00.999 (15) 10 5:01.424 (11)

13 SPENCER John
21 STANTON Gareth
22 POULTER David
28 MCGEE Danny
31 COCKERILL Tom
35 JEMISON Ben
46 EVDOKA Tony
62 LAWSON Stephen
67 WILLIAMS Grant

PTRU
23-08-2011, 03:45 PM
NEIL
PAUL
TOM
BEN
STEVE
PETER P
ALL RUNNING B4.1

_sleigh_
23-08-2011, 04:07 PM
Good job Phil :thumbsup: didn't think they'd be running mid-motor for this event.

Oli_M
23-08-2011, 05:28 PM
RC Racing TV is fully set up in Pau for our coverage of the Off Road Euros.

We'll have text reports after every round of Qualifying and Finals, and of course loads of videos too!

I've just uploaded our first video - a quick introduction featuring a chat with defending champ Lee Martin. Catch it now at www.EFRA.ws

We're just working on our Tuesday round-up clip, which will include lots of action from qualifying, as well as an interview with current second placed driver, Neil Cragg.

Our coverage certainly isn't intended to be Brit-centric, but with so many of our drivers doing so well, there's a good chance they will feature heavily!

Stay tuned to www.EFRA.ws! Don't forget to follow me on Twitter too @RCRacingOli for some behind the scenes extras and more updates!

David Church
23-08-2011, 05:45 PM
Good job Stants!!!! Dominating!!!! Oh yeah

InsideLineModels
23-08-2011, 05:52 PM
Good job Phil :thumbsup: didn't think they'd be running mid-motor for this event.

I was just told that Tom is running the C4.1 out there. I think he is the only one.

_sleigh_
23-08-2011, 07:54 PM
I was just told that Tom is running the C4.1 out there. I think he is the only one.

Fair flipping play to Tom :) It perhaps wouldn't have been the obvious choice looking at the inital low grip conditions, but both Tom & car are performing awesome looking at the results and laptimes posted so far. Another tick in the box for the mighty C4.1 :thumbsup:

OldTimer
23-08-2011, 08:56 PM
I know Tom was going to try the C4.1 but not sure if he used it after practise.

matdodd
23-08-2011, 08:59 PM
Tom from what he said had no intention of running anything but the C4.1.
I don't think he even took a B4.1 so for its first time out on clay its going well :thumbsup:

OldTimer
23-08-2011, 09:01 PM
Tom from what he said had no intention of running anything but the C4.1.
I don't think he even took a B4.1 so for its first time out on clay its going well :thumbsup:

Lets hope my low grip tips from the S2 worked then lol.

matdodd
23-08-2011, 09:09 PM
I'm sure they will it cant be as low grip as Tally was back then lol

InsideLineModels
23-08-2011, 09:18 PM
Fair flipping play to Tom :) It wouldn't have been the obvious choice looking at the inital low grip conditions, but both Tom & car are performing awesome looking the results and laptimes posted so far. Another tick in the box for the mighty C4.1 :thumbsup:

Yeah, he's doing well! It would have been interesting to see what cragg and bradders could have done with a mid motor too.

Glad to see that Jon Spencer and Tony Evdoka are going well with the Vega too. 13th in round for Jonn and 16th for Tony! Sitting in the b and c respectively after day one!

mikeyscott
23-08-2011, 09:26 PM
Yeah, he's doing well! It would have been interesting to see what cragg and bradders could have done with a mid motor too.

Glad to see that Jon Spencer and Tony Evdoka are going well with the Vega too. 13th in round for Jonn and 16th for Tony! Sitting in the b and c respectively after day one!

That's good, I thougt they were runnning the RB5.

exint2
23-08-2011, 10:05 PM
RC Racing Tv's Tuesday round up from the event

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zojfOKgYqV0

More vide and written updates on www.efra.ws

exint2
24-08-2011, 10:39 AM
A quick Wednesday Weather report and update on Qualifying - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf_ymyS6YLU

KRob
24-08-2011, 10:41 AM
Yardee is the only one running the C4.1

Wet today :thumbdown:
Not soaking but a steady drizzle, enough to make a mess of the tyres but not quite the cars - yet. At least there is an air line and water for cleaning.

With a damp round Neil was quickest with Lee second -Jemmo in a stunning 7th in round and Stants 10th
:thumbsup:

One more round to go. If Lee takes the round he will have TQ, otherwise it will be Neil

mikeyscott
24-08-2011, 11:02 AM
Yardee is the only one running the C4.1

Wet today :thumbdown:
Not soaking but a steady drizzle, enough to make a mess of the tyres but not quite the cars - yet. At least there is an air line and water for cleaning.

With a damp round Neil was quickest with Lee second -Jemmo in a stunning 7th in round and Stants 10th
:thumbsup:

One more round to go. If Lee takes the round he will have TQ, otherwise it will be Neil

Has a round just been dropped as the live data feed looks like it's gone to overalls.

Nope scrap that, it's back! Would be nice for a 1/10th champ not to be affected by weather for once!

peetbee
24-08-2011, 11:14 AM
Stants 10th

Way to go Stants!:lol:

Gonky
24-08-2011, 11:22 AM
Storming last run by Cragg then... looks like he may have tq'd! :thumbsup:

TheReferee
24-08-2011, 11:31 AM
for some reason the results feed has reverted to tq listing which is useless

tellor
24-08-2011, 11:34 AM
the 5th round for group 12 has just gone up.

Craggy's got TQ

Wraggy
24-08-2011, 11:36 AM
for some reason the results feed has reverted to tq listing which is useless
:thumbdown: cant work anything out now ..

MattADH
24-08-2011, 11:41 AM
The track seemed to go a lot slower after heat 12 ran - was it rain affected?

TheReferee
24-08-2011, 11:42 AM
frustrating , bloody french

Wraggy
24-08-2011, 11:48 AM
dont remember seeing it posted but live timing
http://www.myrcm.ch/main?pSr=1&dId[E]=6510
(http://www.myrcm.ch/main?pSr=1&dId)

GRIFF55
24-08-2011, 11:49 AM
Top job WAYNE 'STANTS' ROONEY!!! Wish I was there to cheer for you:thumbsup:
Well done all the uk guys

emzy
24-08-2011, 12:16 PM
Where's the overall list? I can only find the TQ list :(

DaveG28
24-08-2011, 12:34 PM
Top job WAYNE 'STANTS' ROONEY!!! Wish I was there to cheer for you:thumbsup:
Well done all the uk guys

Come on Stants, getting it done!:thumbsup:

big_whyman
24-08-2011, 12:59 PM
Top Ten are:

Cragg
Martin
Neuman
Bradby
Honigal
Stafford
Rosetti
Trauner
Kriel
Pinisch

BQ Yardy :(

TheReferee
24-08-2011, 01:02 PM
gareth stanton b6!!! top job:thumbsup:

JCJC
24-08-2011, 01:27 PM
Where's the overall list? I can only find the TQ list :(

is it this:

http://www.myrcm.ch/fr/clubmrcp/20110822_004002/2WD_EP10/index.html

from this page, left hand side-RankingList, click Qualification

Wraggy
24-08-2011, 01:42 PM
Practice A main results

CRAGG
MARTIN
STAFFORD
NEUMANN
TRAUNER
BRADBY
HÖNIGL
ROSSETTI
KREIL
PINISCH

was a UK lockout till last lap when Bradders drop down so must of had a problem

mikeyscott
24-08-2011, 01:49 PM
Practice A main results

CRAGG
MARTIN
STAFFORD
NEUMANN
TRAUNER
BRADBY
HÖNIGL
ROSSETTI
KREIL
PINISCH

was a UK lockout till last lap when Bradders drop down so must of had a problem

That would be an awesome result if pulled off.

KRob
24-08-2011, 02:15 PM
The final round timing went a bit funny due to the computer not being able to call out the right start order for the heats so they had to resort to listing FTD.

It started raining at the start of the final round and with the heats running in reverse order heat 12 got lucky and it was slower after that. Unfortunately this was what accounted for TomY not making the A :thumbdown: He was really unlucky.

The bunch of Schuey drivers at the back of the B should be worth watching as Marc Rheinard has a bet on with Cockers and is offering brides to the other Brits to make sure he can beat him :lol:

Nick Goodall
24-08-2011, 02:26 PM
Lee wins first leg!! GREAT JOB!!

2nd Cragg
3rd Hupo

What happened to Bradders? He was 2nd until 2 laps to go

gazhillAE
24-08-2011, 02:42 PM
Come on Neil!
I'm sure he will pull it off like he did at southport doing 4wd 2 weeks ago!!
:thumbsup:

Gnarly Old Dog
24-08-2011, 03:12 PM
The bunch of Schuey drivers at the back of the B should be worth watching as Marc Rheinard has a bet on with Cockers and is offering brides to the other Brits to make sure he can beat him :lol:

Now that's an interesting incentive plan for them:D

HarlowS
24-08-2011, 03:15 PM
Just out of interest, when/who was the last time Shumacher got a podium position at a Euro's or Worlds ??

Disco-Panda
24-08-2011, 03:15 PM
TEAM GB TEAM GB TEAM GB!!!!!!!

Wraggy
24-08-2011, 03:23 PM
2nd leg
Cragg
Bradders
Martin

will make an interesting 3rd leg

tellor
24-08-2011, 03:23 PM
Just out of interest, when/who was the last time Shumacher got a podium position at a Euro's or Worlds ??

Off road maybe Masami in 1987 winning with the Cat

On Road - teemu Leino winning TC Euro's in 2005

But like the famous Leeds United Billy Bremner said "no one remembers who came 2nd"

Gonky
24-08-2011, 03:25 PM
2nd leg
Cragg
Bradders
Martin

will make an interesting 3rd leg
Was watching the timing screen for that race... was certianly very close for the whole 5 mins! :thumbsup:

Should make for a cracking 3rd leg! :drool:

DCM
24-08-2011, 03:26 PM
is there no live coverage (video) or anyone doing a live report (pics)?

le_sam
24-08-2011, 03:30 PM
is there no live coverage (video) or anyone doing a live report (pics)?

no (french touch)

some things here :
http://www.petitrc.com/_forumphp/showthread.php?t=55059&page=4

gazhillAE
24-08-2011, 03:31 PM
Just out of interest, when/who was the last time Shumacher got a podium position at a Euro's or Worlds ??

Never I don't remember :thumbdown:
Get in Neil!!!!
Look how close 2nd and 3rd times are!!!

big_whyman
24-08-2011, 03:32 PM
Just out of interest, when/who was the last time Shumacher got a podium position at a Euro's or Worlds ??

Mossy was 3rd I think in 2003 in Austria

Nick Goodall
24-08-2011, 03:42 PM
Off road maybe Masami in 1987 winning with the Cat

On Road - teemu Leino winning TC Euro's in 2005

But like the famous Leeds United Billy Bremner said "no one remembers who came 2nd"

Not forgetting Jukka Steenari winning with the Cat 2000 EC (European Champion) in Finland in what must have been 1995 and before that too i believe....

Northy
24-08-2011, 03:50 PM
What won at the Teesside Euros? :confused:

I know Ian Joyce put a Fireblade in the A which was amazing, even Cecil came up to see it as no one could believe it! :lol:

exint2
24-08-2011, 03:59 PM
Qualifying Video report here- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0esZbBsWXU

Full Coverage of the finals will be up this evening on www.efra.ws as well as text reports.

DCM
24-08-2011, 04:17 PM
Nice one Lee, unlucky Neil!

Nick Goodall
24-08-2011, 04:18 PM
Well done Lee-Roy!!!

Sounds like Neil crashed on lap 2 from the timing, Lee had a nice 4-5 second lead for the rest of it.

Good lad, great result!

wacattack
24-08-2011, 04:19 PM
Shocking second lap by Neil that cost him it

gazhillAE
24-08-2011, 04:21 PM
Gutted for you once again matey ! :thumbdown:
4wd now get it done!!!!! :thumbsup:

tyreman
24-08-2011, 04:30 PM
Never I don't remember :thumbdown:
Get in Neil!!!!
Look how close 2nd and 3rd times are!!!

Vice world champion with Kevin Moore @ 1993 worlds basildon, World champion with Masami.

mikeyscott
24-08-2011, 05:41 PM
Why did Jorn not start the third leg?

Well done Lee, unlucky Cragg

GLYN WARD
24-08-2011, 06:35 PM
yes mossy q5th fin 3rd austria running for me
1 had 3 drivers in top 11 other 2 where lee martin q3 fin 5th
ed kerry q11 fin 11th

KRob
24-08-2011, 08:36 PM
Jorn broke it on the jumps first lap

Neil was really unlucky when he crashed on the jumps on lap 2 (or whenever) at the start of the final leg.
There was no marshal on spot eight at the middle of the quad so Danny had to run to sort it out. At the Euros the A final marshals are covered by the country that marshal spot is from (so the Brits had to cover spots 1, 2, 4 and 6). Unfortunately there should have been a Frenchman there but no-one spotted it and the race started - which shouldn't have happend.

Fair play to cockers who ran over to cover it for the rest of the race when he didn't have to. Would havebeen a much closer race otherwise.

Having said that, Lee was more consistent in the finals and deserved to win.
Top work Lee :thumbsup:

Mossy
24-08-2011, 09:03 PM
Never I don't remember :thumbdown:
!

I was 3rd in 2003, 4th in Italy in 2008 with the Cat Sx. Plenty of schuie guys have made numerous A's over the last few years - last year myself and Cockers were in the A over the 2 classes.

This Euros showed great driving from Lee and Neil, they were the class of the field and did the Uk proud. I felt bad for Bradders, 2 unfortunate breakages when running top 3 was harsh, but efra rules wont let cars be repaired mid race. Top job from Ellis, only mid motor in the A.

Roll on 4wd!

Si

mikeyscott
24-08-2011, 09:47 PM
Jorn broke it on the jumps first lap

Neil was really unlucky when he crashed on the jumps on lap 2 (or whenever) at the start of the final leg.
There was no marshal on spot eight at the middle of the quad so Danny had to run to sort it out. At the Euros the A final marshals are covered by the country that marshal spot is from (so the Brits had to cover spots 1, 2, 4 and 6). Unfortunately there should have been a Frenchman there but no-one spotted it and the race started - which shouldn't have happend.

Fair play to cockers who ran over to cover it for the rest of the race when he didn't have to. Would havebeen a much closer race otherwise.

Having said that, Lee was more consistent in the finals and deserved to win.
Top work Lee :thumbsup:

Shame for both Jorn & Neil, but congrats to Neil. Would have been nice for a three way fight. Now who for 4WD??

MikePimlott
24-08-2011, 11:06 PM
Shame for both Jorn & Neil, but congrats to Neil. Would have been nice for a three way fight. Now who for 4WD??

Hopefully one of team UK but damn Jörn was fast at the worlds

exint2
25-08-2011, 08:33 AM
Video Report on the Finals here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kg1WnYbJLo

mikeyscott
25-08-2011, 12:25 PM
What are Lee and Mr Stafford running?

Dudders
25-08-2011, 12:27 PM
There was no marshal on spot eight at the middle of the quad so Danny had to run to sort it out.

School boy error in my mind :mad: How could they run a race of this seriousness with a marshall missing :thumbdown:

Dudders
25-08-2011, 12:29 PM
What are Lee and Mr Stafford running?

1/10th Scale Radio Control Buggy's :lol::lol::lol::lol:

TheReferee
25-08-2011, 02:16 PM
School boy error in my mind :mad: How could they run a race of this seriousness with a marshall missing :thumbdown:


who gets the penalty?
car 8 or anyone slightly french

MattADH
25-08-2011, 02:20 PM
On the video, (http://www.rcracer.com/vids-offroad-elect/3403-efra-110-off-road-finals-day) the marshal has to come
a long way to get to Neil in the middle of the quad - he was pretty quick to get there fortunately (sounds like Danny!)

I didnt realise that there should have been a marshal in the middle...

mattybucks
25-08-2011, 02:25 PM
On the video, (http://www.rcracer.com/vids-offroad-elect/3403-efra-110-off-road-finals-day) the marshal is there, but he has to come a long way to get to Neil in the middle of the quad...

I think the guy marshalling Neil's car was a Brit....... how many times have we rescued the french now?

Dudders
25-08-2011, 02:30 PM
I think the guy marshalling Neil's car was a Brit....... how many times have we rescued the french now?

:thumbsup:

MattADH
25-08-2011, 03:22 PM
Keith (KRob) said it was Danny McGee

flipside
25-08-2011, 04:15 PM
The car is stationary in between jump 3 and 4. There is a marshall in between 2 and 3 and one after 4. So I don't think neil loses a lot more time than when there would have been a marshall in the middle (maybe 0.5s). Not saying there shouldn't be a marshall, but you guys make it sound like he lost 3seconds because of the missing marshall.

Northy
25-08-2011, 04:19 PM
The car is stationary in between jump 3 and 4. There is a marshall in between 2 and 3 and one after 4. So I don't think neil loses a lot more time than when there would have been a marshall in the middle (maybe 0.5s). Not saying there shouldn't be a marshall, but you guys make it sound like he lost 3seconds because of the missing marshall.

I've calculated it at 3.1755s actually ;) :lol::lol:

flipside
25-08-2011, 04:22 PM
Aaaah sorry dude! :lol:

Oli_M
25-08-2011, 04:56 PM
Some super close times today from 4WD Free Practise day!

Times are all up at www.myrcm.ch; but it's going to be very difficult to separate the top drivers. The ranking is officially done on best 2 consecutive laps. Whilst this gives a pretty good indication of who is quick, it's by no means indicitive of who was best over the complete run.

The Durango guys looked very quick, and there are a lot of people who expect them to be on top come qualifying tomorrow.

The Tamiya guys spent the day going back-and-forth between their two cars. Lee has settled on the shaft drive 502, believing it to be most consistent over the run for him, whilst Marc has gone for the belt driven 511, feeling that quickest for him.

Schumacher cars have also looked quick - Danny McGee and Tom Cockerill well inside the top 10. Then throw in the Associated guys of Neil, Bradders and Peter Pinisch and it looks like it will be a great scrap not only for pole position but for every spot in the A final.

Plan for tomorrow is 2 Controlled Practise, then 3 (or even 4, depending on weather) qualifying rounds. But, there is a chance of rain, which may disrupt the schedule. For EFRA rules, they must complete 1 controlled practise, a minimum of 2 qualifying rounds (3 ideally) and the finals.

All the action will be covered at www.EFRA.ws and also on my Twitter @RCRacingOli. We even will have some ON-BOARD footage from practise, thanks to Viktor Wilck loaning us his car!

KRob
25-08-2011, 05:31 PM
On the video, the green stool is where marshal 8 should have been. All I can say is anyone who crashed there was lucky it was McGee on the next spot - he is quite literally the worlds fastest marshal!!

The lack of marshal was reported to the relevant officials and if anything was done it didn't affect the results...

Ellis is driving the Tamiya.
The heat was back today and the track is now starting to rut a bit but doesn't seem to be affecting pace at the moment.
Practice was quite hectic due to plenty of no-shows so down to 10 heats.

GRIFF55
25-08-2011, 07:38 PM
Good job I wasn't the Marshall hey kieth;):lol:

KRob
25-08-2011, 09:00 PM
Damn straight you ham-fisted bogwoppit :p

(Just don't mis-marshal your new-born :o)

Dudders
25-08-2011, 09:01 PM
Damn straight you ham-fisted bogwoppit :p

(Just don't mis-marshal your new-born :o)

Surpised he hasnt passed it around like a rugby ball!

GRIFF55
25-08-2011, 09:46 PM
How do you know I haven't;)
Wtf is a hogwappit? Get your old digits typing faster and bring us some more trackside reports luvver:thumbsup:
Practice looking close!

_sleigh_
26-08-2011, 06:14 AM
Oh dear, it's mildly moist in Pau again! :cry:

mikeyscott
26-08-2011, 07:25 AM
http://news.efra.ws/index.php?id=388&newsid=934&frompageid=336&start=0&p_f=25&e=0&c=0&s=0&y=2011-01-01

Soaking :(

Smartalec
26-08-2011, 07:32 AM
http://news.efra.ws/index.php?id=388&newsid=934&frompageid=336&start=0&p_f=25&e=0&c=0&s=0&y=2011-01-01

Soaking :(

At least it will keep the dust down :D
What a cack dump to hold a premier meeting :thumbdown:

rcdunk
26-08-2011, 08:13 AM
shocking and they did not even bother to try and cover it overnight !!!!!

mattybucks
26-08-2011, 08:23 AM
It's a good job Tamiya do boats.

KRob
26-08-2011, 09:19 AM
How do you know I haven't;)
Wtf is a hogwappit? Get your old digits typing faster and bring us some more trackside reports luvver:thumbsup:
Practice looking close!

I haven't been at the track though Griff - I'm on holiday:thumbsup:
They were practicing yesterday while I went up the Col Du Tormolet 80k away :lol:

However, from my hotel hovel I can tell you it really is peeing down and has been all morning :thumbdown:
No running so far with another decision due at noon.
As it is still raining quite heavily and conditions haven't changed since this morning it;s not a strecth to say they won't be on track in the near future:bored:

Guess I'll go shopping today then:lol:

mikeyscott
26-08-2011, 01:04 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/2748?&search=pau&itemsPerPage=10&region=world

GLYN WARD
26-08-2011, 01:52 PM
kieth if i had known you where going there i would have come with road bike and rode up col du tormolet would have brought my spare bike for you as well:thumbsup::lol:

Chequered Flag Racing
26-08-2011, 02:11 PM
Rain Radar for Pau
http://www.meteogroup.co.uk/uk/home/weather/world-weather/city-weather/city/33X23025/pau.html

CharlieF
26-08-2011, 02:28 PM
Yes Keith I thought that sounded like a "tour" mountain but just didn't want to visualize you on a bike!!!:eh?::eh?::thumbsup:

GRIFF55
26-08-2011, 02:30 PM
Hahahaha, beat me to it Charlie!
Have a good holiday buddy:thumbsup:

MattADH
26-08-2011, 03:27 PM
They were practicing yesterday while I went up the Col Du Tormolet 80k away:lol:

Worth the trip just for the history of the Col in the Tour!

KRob
26-08-2011, 03:48 PM
Yes, well worth it. The views were absolutely stunning - recommeneded to anyone in the area.
(I'll ignore the cycling jibes...)

Anyway, sun is out and hot again. The club have bought in losts of sand and when I last saw the track a couple of hours ago there was no standing water - it has drained quickly.

Controlled practice is due to start in about quarter of an hour. If there is no more excessive rain it will qualifying and finals tomorrow.

Belsten
26-08-2011, 04:01 PM
Its started :thumbsup:

Belsten
26-08-2011, 04:03 PM
Manolis has even managed to get 4 laps on the board :lol:

mikeyscott
26-08-2011, 04:52 PM
I hope they get the full quali runs etc.

What is the revised timetable?

exint2
26-08-2011, 05:09 PM
With rain stopping play in france plenty of Video action on www.efra.ws including a track feature and some cracking onboard laps -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XxeX1d2lTA

gazhillAE
26-08-2011, 05:33 PM
Has nothing happened at all today then.....?

DaveG28
26-08-2011, 05:35 PM
Goooooo Manolis!!

They doing any quali today, or is tomorrow now a 1 day shoot out??

From the Tamiya Point of view, is Pidge still running the trf44.1?

KRob
26-08-2011, 05:55 PM
One round of controlled practice run.
This has to be as the rules state there must be a round of controlled practice.

Jorn fastest over two laps from Lee, and yes Dave he is running the TRF44.1 :lol:
Nei, Hupo, Bradders and Ellis were all quick too.
Ellis is now on the Kyosho as for him on this track it is faster.

Tomorrow is scheduled to be a quick round of practice (2mins per heat) then four rounds of quali and the finals.
Not too different to a UK national then :p

All weather dependant...

mikeyscott
26-08-2011, 05:57 PM
Dropped a round of quali, shame but good luck to them!

So lee has gone to shaft Tamiya and Ellis to the FS2 again shaft based.

Oli_M
27-08-2011, 10:44 AM
More overnight rain has again affected the schedule :(

There will now be just 3 qualifying rounds, and the finals. Best 2 qualifying scores to count. Jorn fastest in R1 from Lee.

Will be posting as much as I can to www.EFRA.ws but due to the compacted timetable my reports may be fairly short today. Also follow me on twitter @RCRacingOli - if there's anything you really want me to photograph / find out about, send me a message on there and I will do my best!

Fingers crossed for no more rain and we will have a brilliant, but high pressure, European Championship in one day!

Belsten
27-08-2011, 10:49 AM
Craggy takes the 2nd round

Gonky
27-08-2011, 11:44 AM
I think that's Lee on pole... bit hard to tell from the website :confused:

KRob
27-08-2011, 11:58 AM
In the penultimate heat Jorn makes the first 12 lapper, then crashes on the split lap.
In the final heat Neil is late to the line and has to start last.
The traffic/reff was appaling and not very helpful at all. Not just my opinion as an AE driver but all the people I was in the stands with, and they weren'tll Brits either.
Once through the traffic Neil was avoiding another incident and a marshal stepped out in front of him snapping a ball joint.
At the end of the day he shouldn#'t have been late to the line but there should have been better ettiquette from the others invloved.

Upshot is Lee went faster then Jorn so takes TQ :thumbsup:
Neil I think will be 6th or 7th but will probably struggle from there.
Rest of the A not certain yet as the timing onlylists times on FTD at the moment.
Grant has a shot but no other Brits.
Has really put the pressure on doing 2 from 3 rounds

DaveG28
27-08-2011, 12:07 PM
Good skills Lee, especially with a car he's not used much this summer!

GRIFF55
27-08-2011, 12:08 PM
Nice one Lee!!
Gutted for Neil as he had a blinder in round 2 as did bradders. never mind, got a be in it to win it and he is on form too:thumbsup:
Top 2 spots for the uk, possibly 3 by the end;)

jondell
27-08-2011, 12:10 PM
Ive done a real quick calc and i have the following as top 12.. of course r3 needs to finish yet. Danny and Grant tied on points, but danny has a 7 against grants 8.... but of course i could have mis counted any of this.

1 Lee Martin
2 Jorn Neumann
3 Hupo Honigl
4 Viktor Wilck
5 Neil Cragg
6 Marc Rheinard
7 Paul Bradby
8 Peter Pinisch
9 Martin Kreil
10 Danny Mcgee
11 Grant Williams
12 Armand Lantheaume

Oli_M
27-08-2011, 12:22 PM
Unofficially, we have the same A Final line up as Jon ;) If it's wrong, we'll have to re-film our clip!

Nothing will be official until this round is completed in about 5 minutes time. Due to issues with the scoring system not calling the correct start order, they have switched it to look at Fastest times for the moment - but finals will be sorted as per usual rules, best 2 scores from 3 rounds.

Currently still dry and sunny here..........

mikeyscott
27-08-2011, 12:29 PM
Where did Ellis finish quali?

DaveG28
27-08-2011, 12:33 PM
Tamiya/Associated/Durango final? What does Kreil run??

mikeyscott
27-08-2011, 12:35 PM
Tamiya/Associated/Durango final? What does Kreil run??

Durango

jondell
27-08-2011, 12:40 PM
I did get it wrong... danny had 11 not 10 in r2, so Grant is officially 10th.

Big well done to Lee... Tamiya getting it DONE. Wing men Vicky and Marc in the show... TRF 1,2,3 me thinks.

Poulter in the B desires a pat on the back

KRob
27-08-2011, 12:47 PM
Top work Graaaaaannntt :wub

Lee 1st
Neil 5th
Bradders 7th (sorry, missed him earlier)
Grant 10th

Unlucky Danny 11th, in the B with Ellis, Yardy, Cockers and well done to Poulter for 20th.

3 Tamiya
3 Durango
3 Associated
1 Schumacher

DaveG28
27-08-2011, 12:48 PM
I did get it wrong... danny had 11 not 10 in r2, so Grant is officially 10th.

Big well done to Lee... Tamiya getting it DONE. Wing men Vicky and Marc in the show... TRF 1,2,3 me thinks.

Poulter in the B desires a pat on the back

Well done Poults!!

Jon, do you know which car Viktor/Marc are running?

KRob
27-08-2011, 12:50 PM
Lee 502
Marc/Viktor 511

simoncrabb
27-08-2011, 12:53 PM
Oh! Lee's running the 502!

mikeyscott
27-08-2011, 12:57 PM
People flocking to the 502 next lol

Well done to all UK guys who made the A!

GRIFF55
27-08-2011, 01:06 PM
Nice one pouter!!!!:thumbsup:

tony6187
27-08-2011, 02:31 PM
a1 results -jorn,craggy,lee.

tony6187
27-08-2011, 03:04 PM
a2 jorn 1st,lee 2nd,craggy 3rd

Belsten
27-08-2011, 03:04 PM
a2 jorn, lee, neil

GRIFF55
27-08-2011, 03:28 PM
Looks like jorn is champ then. Well done!
Be a good battle for second and third

Nik the name
27-08-2011, 03:33 PM
That's awesome :thumbsup:

Belsten
27-08-2011, 04:05 PM
lee, hupo & neil

GRIFF55
27-08-2011, 04:16 PM
So it's 1'st Jorn
2'nd Lee
3'rd. ? Craggy is it?

Belsten
27-08-2011, 04:17 PM
Think so

monassos
27-08-2011, 04:21 PM
driver and car

1. 58 MARTIN Lee GB Tamiya
2. 63 NEUMANN Jörn D Durango
3. 41 HÖNIGL Hubert(Hupo) A Durango
4. 107 WILCK Viktor S SE Tamiya
5. 21 CRAGG Neil GB 0 UK Asso
6. 81 RHEINARD Marc D DE Tamiya
7. 9 BRADBY Paul GB UK Asso
8. 69 PINISCH Peter A AT Asso
9. 49 KREIL Martin A AT Durango
10. 108 WILLIAMS Grant Schumacher

monassos
27-08-2011, 04:22 PM
finish result

Rank Pilot Nr Licence Driver Nat

1 63 D 877 NEUMANN Jörn DE
2 58 GB 0331 MARTIN Lee UK
3 21 GB 0138 CRAGG Neil UK
4 41 A 4514 HÖNIGL Hubert(Hupo) AT
5 81 D 680 RHEINARD Marc DE
6 107 S 046 WILCK Viktor SE
7 9 GB 0035 BRADBY Paul UK
8 49 A 3146 KREIL Martin AT
9 69 A 4559 PINISCH Peter AT
10 108 GB 0530 WILLIAMS Grant UK

Oli_M
27-08-2011, 09:10 PM
All the action from the 4WD Finals now up here:
http://news.efra.ws/index.php?id=388&newsid=951&frompageid=336&start=0&p_f=25&e=0&c=0&s=0&y=2011-01-01

Some great racing, a great event and two very worthy champions. We hope you've enjoyed our coverage all week. Thanks to all of you who tuned in and to everyone who sent me messages - I think I managed to reply to all of them!

MikePimlott
27-08-2011, 09:21 PM
Hopefully one of team UK but damn Jörn was fast at the worlds

Ah well, he was fast at the euros too!!!

Well done Lee and Neil :thumbsup:

exint2
27-08-2011, 09:40 PM
Cracking Finals action from the RC Racing Team (and I can say that as it wasn't me!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPmOWXg-evU

DavidAMS
28-08-2011, 06:41 AM
great videos there from efra,
nice driving Lee, you did the 502x proud!:thumbsup:

RudeTony
30-08-2011, 12:41 PM
A quick report of my Euros experience

http://www.m-k-racing.net/blog/