York Vintage championship dates

[Northy]

Here are the (penciled in) dates for the Vintage championship at York:

Round 1 - Saturday 3rd November
Round 2 - Saturday 1st December
Round 3 - Saturday 2nd Feburary
Round 4 - Saturday 1st March
Round 5 - Saturday 5th April

Rules:

Cars must be 1990 or earlier.
NO minipins, any other tyres are ok.
Vintage electronics are always a nice bonus!
Make sure you have fun!!!! :D


Classes and motor rules to be determined.

Please register your interest here if you would like to compete in this championship. The number of people entering will determine if we can run split classes.

Please no - I think we should do this......., or I want to do this....... in this thread. Please just register your interest. Stu started a thread for coments like that.

Thanks,

Graham

[Kash]

Possibly if i can get a car sorted

[WHITTLER555]

Yes - 4WD

[super__dan]

yes, running 2 cars 2wd and 4wd

[mattym0310]

yes running 2wd

[Northy]

I'd like to run 2wd and 4wd if we have two classes, I think Jim will too.

G

[Medders]

Sounds good, I'll be usiing the ProCat assuming its 19T, would not bother if its 27T.

[Stu]

I'll run 19t as first priority, no doubt it will be 4wd. If there is enough for a second heat I'll have a go with a second car, 2wd probably with a proper period 27t.

[Northy]

So with Jim I make that 6 people Including Jim (as I think Matty was selling his car?), so looks like it will be just one heat of mixed chassis (1 and 4wd), up to 19 turn motors? :confused:

G

[super__dan]

It seems like, and after all the people that said they were up for it before, quite dissapointing really!!!

[bretts]

sounds just like the interclub:(

[jimarea51]

Hello!!!

I'm defo up for it:D

I'll probabley run 2WD 19t, although would have liked to run 4WD aswell but only if there had been enough for two heats.... These old cars need a lot of attention between rounds (NOT)...

Later

Jim

[Stu]

I've just been watchin' 19t motors on't'bay, they just disappeared before the listings were up - that’s poo.

Plenty more though.

My 4wd has arrived, 1987 worlds winner. :)

In terms of numbers if it's like last year that will be fine, would be nice to have 2 heats though.

BTW, the Aces is on Sunday the 4th - Stew has said we can have a dedicated vintage heat if we want - who's up for that?
Maybe some of the folks from further a-field would be more likely to come up to race if it was a Saturday & Sunday race weekend.

[Northy]

Oh well, just the hard core then.... :rolleyes:

G

[Medders]

Oh well, just the hard core then.... :rolleyes:

G



Best get me hands on a 19T motor in time for the first meeting....:D

[Northy]

Best get me hands on a 19T motor in time for the first meeting....:D

Yeh! :D:cool:

[vader]

Will those racing vintage ever see the light and race with modern cars?:)

[Medders]

Will those racing vintage ever see the light and race with modern cars?:)

:mad::mad::mad:

[vader]

The force is not strong with the vintage what you need is a new young jedi to run along side you and lap you. My apprentice "Obi won Jemison" will take care of that with his 540 powered CR!:cool:

[Chrislong]

Hey, Ben is actually rather quick with his 540 powered CR, it'd be a great contest!

Would it be a race of turtle vs the tortoise? the hares are in the other heats! :D

[mr emily]

I will be at some of the dates , cannot do the 3rd Nov though, no chance of york and teesside in a weekend. RC overload on my grey matter. Procat and rc10 or kyosho thing if I can find a topdeck for it.

Keith

[Mushman]

Would it be sacrilege to run a mint condition Gold Tub RC10 ?
"Not sure if i beleive in shelf Queens but i do like a good reminisce."
Haven't raced for donkeys years but this sounds fun. :rolleyes:

[super__dan]

Nah that's fine, Jimmy's graphite was a bit of a minter when he ran it. My RC10's a pretty good one too, which is good as it means it doesn't fall apart on every other corner ;-)

[Stu]

Would it be sacrilege to run a mint condition Gold Tub RC10 ?
"Not sure if i beleive in shelf Queens but i do like a good reminisce."
Haven't raced for donkeys years but this sounds fun. :rolleyes:

Last year John ran Jimmy's Javelin, he just put a slow motor in and drove steadily, making sure he didn't do anything daft. If you want to have a go but don't want to badger the car just do the same. There will not be any large jumps, just small stuff.

If there is enough entries for a second heat we'll put all the 'slower' cars together.

[Mushman]

Cheers lads
Still not sure though, i did a bit of research and my rc10 seems to be a CE edition with the black parts and stealth tranny which possible puts it outside the 1990 cut-off, depending how bendy the rule is?
i also have an old graphite mid but that's not turned a wheel since 1988 when i raced it at a club in Oldham. She really needs some work as my pit skills were a little bodge-worthy back then.
At worst i think ill pop up and have a ganders. :cool:

[Northy]

The RC10 will be fine, we're not ultra strict on the cutoff.

Get yourself down and race! :D

[super__dan]

Any RC10 chassis is allowed as the fundamental tub is from pre 1990.

Get it raced!

[Stu]

http://www.northernracer.com/xls1.jpg
http://www.northernracer.com/xls2.jpg

[super__dan]

Holy crap, that's a right bad boy, VERY impressed (except that wank bumper).

Mine still hasn't got any wheels so might have to bite the bullit and buys some new ZX5 ones :(

Also the motor I bought seems to have been lost in the post. The RC10 finally needs a diff rebuild after Batley so I'm now less preparred than ever :(

[WHITTLER555]

Very nice Stu!

The bumper is original Cat.

[Northy]

That is a work of art! :D

G

[Stu]

http://www.northernracer.com/xls3.jpg

[super__dan]

Frustratingly it seems I have no used front 4wd yellows I can use on my car. I might have to resort to putting new tyres on it :(

[Chrislong]

You know, at first I didn't click - but holey-shmolley, thats an XLS in mint condition!!

At first glance I thought "That Procat looks a little different"...

bi-jeezus, it'll have more power in it there by double what it was designed for :) (not counting the motor, as I don't know what it is at a glance)

[Stu]

The motor in there is a proper period Schumacher 15x2, I beleive that is what was used to win the 1988 worlds?

I'll run it at Worksop this weekend but unfortunalty it will have to come out for the vintage series, too fast. :(

[Northy]

We had a York committee meeting tonight and they really wanted to keep the 'spirit' of vintage racing as true as possible so they have decided on the following rules:

Motors: 540 sealed can - same rules as thier 540 series, which basically means that the 20 turn HPI stinger (that was run last year) is the fastest motor that we can run.

Chassis: Age limit of 1990 (ish).

Tyres: No minipins - feel free to use up all your old half worn yellow mini's from througout the year.

G

[Spencer Mulcahy]

That is well nice Stu brings back memorys of Albion Mill in Blackburn. Running on carpet with foams with demon motors (or oddiefied motors).

[Medders]

We had a York committee meeting tonight and they really wanted to keep the 'spirit' of vintage racing as true as possible so they have decided on the following rules:

Motors: 540 sealed can - same rules as thier 540 series, which basically means that the 20 turn HPI stinger (that was run last year) is the fastest motor that we can run.

Chassis: Age limit of 1990 (ish).

Tyres: No minipins - feel free to use up all your old half worn yellow mini's from througout the year.

G





What :o. I'd just sorted myself out with a 19T spec motor for fook sake. Count me out :mad:

[Northy]

I'm really sorry, but that is what the committee decided :(:(:(:(

G

[Stu]

G - That's a bag of wank. In the late 80's motors were being run with winds in the teens.

I have an alternative idea, it's not ideal but it's better than the above, we'll discuss it tomorrow with Jim, Mr W, Dan......

[super__dan]

OH MY GOD,

What a rediculous decision, I'm almost not sure I can be arsed either, will Damo as well?

We never ran sealed can motors at any kind of level other than beginer back in 1990 so why hold everyone back now?

:( :( :( :(













:(

[super__dan]

Batley vintage series???

Not cleared yet with Dianne but I'm sure she won't mind. 19t motors I think :)

[Stu]

Damian will only go with the 19t.

We may still be able to get what we want, it just needs some 'Driver-Power'.

Move to Batley, Ok if needed, need to get some dates & details from Dianne.

There is also Teeside ACES, Stewart has already said we can have a heat(s) of our own.

Southport GP on Feb 10th?

[WHITTLER555]

Hello, thanks for the text G!

We were running 18T singles in my RC10 in 1986!

Are we worrying about nothing here?

My suggestion is thus.

As it is a club meeting, who is going to scrutineer the cars? Nobody did last year, the Vintage heat was run in "the true spirit" whereby we each made sure each others cars were OK.

Are you actually suggesting that the club can afford to lose around 8 lots of fees?

As long as all the drivers in the vintage series agree, I honestly don't see who is going to enforce the rule??

What are they going to do, throw me out??

Who is enforcing the rule, G??

[Northy]

The decision was taken as a committee, I was for 19turn, but was in the miniority.

I'm not sure what to do, but I'd still like to run at York.

G

[WHITTLER555]

So my question is,

Who is going to enforce the rule?

Which person do we need to speak to?

I have never seen any car be scrutineered at a York club night.

[Stu]

We'll talk tomorrow.

[Northy]

I suppose the committee will enforce the rule, as there was a little talk about some of the 540 class cars actually being 'very fast' for a 540, and they are going to start random checks or something.

I'm affraid I can't comment to much as i AM a committee member :eh?::eh?:

G

[Northy]

And btw, I think Stingers Rock! :p:p:p:p:p:p:p

[Stu]

I'm affraid I can't comment to much as i AM a committee member :eh?::eh?:

G

I'm sure you'll have a lot to say tomorrow though - :rolleyes:

[Northy]

I actually just want to race, and have both types of motor, so am not that arsed.

It was still fun last year with the Stingers.

PS Stu, I have your t-shirt :cool:

G

[WHITTLER555]

It can't be a secret who is on the committee!

Are they going to be racing in the Vintage series?

If so then I can see they have a vested interest.

[Northy]

York officials:

Chairman - Derek Bradby
Secretary - Neil Dickens & Daryl Turnbull
Treasurer - Mike Cockerill
Committee - Mike Riley, Phil Studley, Simon Major, Graham North, Peter Metcalfe, Richard Coates
Drivers Rep - The dirty vermin

[Stu]

PS Stu, I have your t-shirt :cool:

G

I need it now, NOW, RIGHT NOW.

NOW!

[Medders]

York officials:

Chairman - Derek Bradby
Secretary - Neil Dickens & Daryl Turnbull
Treasurer - Mike Cockerill
Committee - Mike Riley, Phil Studley, Simon Major, Graham North, Peter Metcalfe, Richard Coates
Drivers Rep - The dirty vermin


And how many of them will be racing in the vintage :mad:

[super__dan]

Medders,

We had a chat today and are all still going next week, hopefully Vermin will be sorting us out and everything will be OK.

If not I'm keen to run vintage at Batley.

[Medders]

Medders,

We had a chat today and are all still going next week, hopefully Vermin will be sorting us out and everything will be OK.

If not I'm keen to run vintage at Batley.


Vintage at Batley sounds a great idea ;)

[Col]

Stuff the commitee lads, just agree between yourselfs and run whatever you like. Only G on the commitee is racing vintage anyway

[Chrislong]

I thought I heard Mike Riley and Phil were joining in with the Vintage capers, I could be wrong, but thats 3 committee members including Northy.

Im not racing in it, but agree with Damo. What can they do? If they tell you not to book in, then book in as 4wd and get Vermin to put each of your abilities to 1 (as a one-off) and therefore you'll have your own heat, and the vintage heat empty. You may have to score it yourselves to call it a series, but that can be done on paper can't it?

Too many rules?

Im dieing to see Stu's XLS smoke around. :D

Chris

[Stu]

We will do that.

To be honest I would have liked to have seen two vintage heats anyway; one 19t heat and the other a 'slow' motor heat for proper old-skool cars.

Jim thinks it may be an XL, rather than an XLS. He may be wrong, but he's not often wrong.

[Chrislong]

Jim thinks it's an XL, rather than an XLS. He may be wrong, but he's not often wrong.

I wouldn't argue with him, one thing we can all be sure of is Jim won't state anything without knowing himself that it is fact... he's the oracle.

[Northy]

Jim thinks it's an XL, rather than an XLS. He may be wrong, but he's not often wrong.

Rumour has it that he was wrong once, in around 2nd of Feb 1985. :rolleyes:

G

[Stu]

Was that when he said 'Looks like it'll rain later' - but it turned out to be just a light shower?

[Northy]

That was it Stu. Oh, how we laughed when he told us the story...... :p:p:p

[terry.sc]

I'd say it's an XLS. It has the XLS front shock mounts (XL mounts the shocks vertically not angled back), the XLS bumper (XL is grey - XLS bumper won't fit an XL) and it's hard to tell but it looks like it has the XLS rear suspension spacers to widen the rear end.

[Chrislong]

I'd say it's an XLS. It has the XLS front shock mounts (XL mounts the shocks vertically not angled back), the XLS bumper (XL is grey - XLS bumper won't fit an XL) and it's hard to tell but it looks like it has the XLS rear suspension spacers to widen the rear end.

But Terry, let me introduce you to Jim.... :D

[Stu]

Jim said something about the front driveshafts - maybe it's a bit of a hybred car. It has MMS diffs which are later, so maybe it's a bit of both.

[Northy]

I simply can not believe that Jim would be wrong twice in one lifetime, he would simply not allow it! :eh?:

[super__dan]

Gents,

Since getting home from Worksop on Sunday I've been in bed with a Virus for most of the week. As such I've not done anything to my cars.

I'm defo struggling with needing a MUCH smaller pinion for the mid (0.6 module?) I haven't emptied my car yet but later will try to get my tools to see what's on it at the moment. Damo have you got that gear chart and can anyone suggest a ratio?

My other problem is I forgot I've still not got any wheels, assuming I'm OK on sat day I'm going to MB models in leeds and hope he still carriees ZX5 wheels.

Annoyingly my RC10 after needing virtually no work since I got it is crapping it's diff at the moment, might see me a couple of runs on the weekend if needed but I comletely muffed the shocks by trying to put new oil in them the other week.

Everyone else more organised than me?

[jimarea51]

Hi Dan

If you want i'll rebuild your stealth diff, either at the weekend or int the week after...

Damo has a gear ratio chart I saw it at the weekend:D

I'm all ready for the Vintage championship now, I can't wait:rolleyes:

Jim

[Northy]

I'm almost ready..... :D

[super__dan]

Thanks Jim, much appreciated.

Do either of you have any 0.6 module gears?

[Northy]

Not me Dan, sorry :(

[WHITTLER555]

I will bring as large a selection of 0.6 module pinions as I can from the model shop.

[super__dan]

CHeers Damo, I'll start with the smallest and work my way up I guess.

[Stu]

My 19 showed up on Tuesday - looks good in the CAT.

G & me will try to avoid going to Sudd's on Saturday afternoon, we may be able to manage it.

[super__dan]

My 19t still hasn't turned up for the 4wd, though I do have Vermins old one in the RC10. It's also going to be lastminute.com whether these wheels and tyres turn up.

Has anyone else lost all faith in the Post Office service?

Assuming I get out of bed for a while tomorrow I need to cycle my 2000 cells to check they do actually work!

[ben]

ive got my rc10 all ready and raring to go. cant wait.:D

little ben

[WHITTLER555]

Sorry, have we got an address for Huntingdon school??

Can never remember where it is!

[Steve]

Just to let you no the peopel who want to run a 19 turn motor can i will sort all the point out for who run a 540 or a 19t motors.

[Steve]

address
Huntington School
Huntington Road
Huntington
York
YO32 9WT

[WHITTLER555]

TA!:D

[super__dan]

Good skills Vermin!

[super__dan]

G- Mart has asked me to pay for your wheels and you pay me back, is that OK?

[Northy]

No problem Dan.

Cheers, G

[super__dan]

Damo it's a 20t pinion on whatever the stock spur is. I think I'll need to go down like 4 or 5 teeth to be honest, do you have anything that small? What ratio is that?

[WHITTLER555]

Sorry Dan, standard spur is 81, I think! The only pinions I can get are 12 and 13 or 24,25,26,28.

When I ran the mid last year it had a 23 on and still topped out too early down the straight with the 20 turn Saturn. So I was thinking of going bigger not smaller!??

23 pinion on 81 spur gives ratio of 9.30.

You know I have not got a clue how this works so I will just keep throwing bigger pinions at it until it is fast down the straight with a good amount of infield poke!:D

[super__dan]

Fair do's, I guess I'll see how it goes then with this 20, assuming the motor comes tomorrow.

[Northy]

In about an hour Stu and myself will be starting to prepare for tomorrow night by getting shit-faced in Suds :eh?:

G

[TRIOXER]

is vermin foreign? he appears to struggle with the english language.

[Chrislong]

is vermin foreign? he appears to struggle with the english language.

Thats more random than Ashley! :wtf:

[super__dan]

Well I FINALLY got my 19t motor for the 4wd this morning (picked up from sorting office), was posted on 13/10/07!!! Already got it in the car and it runs lovely. I cycled 4 packs of 2000's last night and all appear to charge and work OK. Can I do a race on 1500mah though as that's all I get out of them (to be expected).

So for the mid it's just down to the Postie on the wheels or trying desperatly to borrow some from someone there tonight.

The RC10 diff has fixed itself??? Maybe it will die under use but anyway that car is a runner as it has wheels on it ;)

Chris, are you still coming tonight?

[Medders]

ProCat ready, sort of !! Just trying to sort out some tyres for it.

You'll easy be ok with those cells and that motor. Last year my 1700 SCE's just about managed it.

[Northy]

Stu's feeling a little under the weather this morning, he's just been ralphing up :rolleyes:

G

[super__dan]

Oh happy days, and take back all those things I said about the postal service the wheels are here.

Is this a thing of great beauty or what?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/super__dan/mid.jpg

[Northy]

Nice carpet, very 'standard' :eh?:

G

[super__dan]

Since youre interested here are a couple of pics of my favourite things in my lounge

Firstly, Big Frank - the plant, just cool!

Secondly, Big tele, Sky+ and Man Utd - Aresenal on Lunchtime kick off
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/super__dan/plants001.jpg

Lastly Cactus Jaun, though I've sence learned its not a cactus at all but an Aloe Vera plant :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/super__dan/plants002.jpg

[Northy]

Nice telly, thats same as ours I think? :D

G

[WHITTLER555]

What time have we to be there tonight??

[AndyM]

i usually turn up around 5:50, hope this helps :D

[Northy]

Dan, your router is ther same as mine, I like that a lot.

Stu (I'm in disguise).

[VintageRC]

Hi,

I realised that theres no group on bebo devoted to vintage RC Cars, so I decided to set one up! If anyones on bebo and loves vintage RC cars then feel free to join this group.

http://www.bebo.com/VintageRCCars

Stuart Hill

[bigchris]

hi stuart
looking good , i have joined your group anyone is welcome to join
chris

[quincey]

has anyone got any contact details for the vintage championship,ive got ton's of old vintage buggys and would like to race them.

[super__dan]

Whaat do you need to know, just ask on here.

[quincey]

i was thinking of racing the febuary meeting,and as im from chester i would have to plan coming up+i run a model shop(ea models) so i would have to get cover for that weekend,i would like to book in for that meeting so i would need details off how to,and what specific motors etc... i will need to run .
ive got several vintage tamiya runners and a few tasty rc10's and would a traxxas trx3 be eligble to run or is it to young?

[super__dan]

Last time the 'rules' were not strictly enforced, it's all about being in the spirit.

In my opinion, the TRX3 would really be too new but get it our for a run and people wouldn't complain. The rules are technically sealed can motors 20t and above however most of us (all the ones that actually ran in the competition last year) realised that they are just too slow to be fun so broke the rules and ran 19t motors which made it better than last year in my opinion.

No need to book in advance, it's 'only' a club night after all.

[quincey]

any chance of the address for the club and what time does it all start?
i will bring the tribe of vintage runners with me,19t motors is the most i run in them anyway and the trx3 is my latest runner and ive found where to get spares for it still

[Mushman]

Are you all still racing the retros today?
It seems to have gone a bit quite on the vintage front.
If you are what time do you start and is there 240 volt power or do i need to bring a 12v battery.
cheers

[jimarea51]

YEAH!

240V is available, other voltages are available in other countries.

J

[Mushman]

cheers for the speedy / whitty reply