Round 3 - Hereford - 4th November

[c0sie]

For details about the venue please click HERE. (http://www.ukmicrox.co.uk/2007venues/4nov.html)

For the clubs official website please click HERE. (http://www.1st-hrcc.co.uk/)

For an entry form please download one by clicking HERE. (http://www.ukmicrox.co.uk/brca%202007/micro%20entry%20form.pdf)

Finally, for the race report and pictures of the Hereford Micro Open 2007 event please click HERE. (http://www.ukmicrox.co.uk/events-hereford2007.html)

Get your entry forms in fast peeps...this round is going to be one of the best micro meetings ever!

[frogger]

When is the cut-off date for entries? ;)

[c0sie]

1 week before the meeting so last post on Saturday 27th October :)

[Body Paint]

I want to enter but I don't know if my car will turn up in time...

Oh the dilema:eh?:

[c0sie]

Craig,

Enter now..and if your ST doesnt turn up just email Kev (on the entry form) and cancel your entry.

I doubt we'll have the full 80 drivers so you wont be holding anyones place..if you see what I mean.

I was hoping that Chris Doughty might enter, not sure if he will. I know Keith Robertson is on board..hopefully we'll see alot more of you 10th offroad lot soon :)

[Body Paint]

OK, I'll do that.

Chris does very little racing over the winter, it's traditional for him LOL.

As for Keith, I just can't get away from him, he follows me everywhere like a bad smell LOL only kidding! Keith's kool:cool: Hopefully his 1/18th will handle as well as his 10th scale 4wd has this year :p

[c0sie]

http://www.cmldistribution.co.uk/news.php?view=0000000786

Big thanks to Wes :)

[renejespersen]

How wide is the trackwidth ?

[c0sie]

Anywhere between 1.5m and 2m

[Danosborne6661]

Cant wait :D

[jimmy]

John's talking about going to the 4th Nov one - how do we book in for that? I've not even started my car yet if I'm honest, but the shell is painted :)

[evilbert]

Jimmy, visit http://www.ukmicrox.co.uk/events-brca.html download and send off the entry form.

all the info for the rules etc is on that page aswell

[Body Paint]

John's talking about going to the 4th Nov one - how do we book in for that? I've not even started my car yet if I'm honest, but the shell is painted :)

I haven't even got my car yet Jimmy the Wig, and I'm still commited to the big race. Get thou' ass int gear lad. I need some back up from the tenth massive, I'm scared of that Wes feller, he sounds like a right bully:eh?:

[frogger]

O man, Hereford is going to be a blast! :D

[c0sie]

I haven't even got my car yet Jimmy the Wig, and I'm still commited to the big race. Get thou' ass int gear lad. I need some back up from the tenth massive, I'm scared of that Wes feller, he sounds like a right bully:eh?:

pmsl

Nowt that a swift slapping wont resolve :)

Oh yeah..Hereford is gonna be ace!

[c0sie]

Entries close on Saturday 27th October for this event.

CML's Wes Myles, Microtech's Keith Robertson, Atomic-Carbon's Craig Harris, Tekin's Dan Osborne, Team Scream's Chris Bottle and Round 1 AND 2 winners Steve Davis and Cris Oxley will all be there at an event that has the potential to be the best micro event to date!!

If you want to enter and join in the fun, get your forms in NOW!!

[renejespersen]

I Envy you so bad.. argh!..

[c0sie]

Anyone else from here other than Craig sent their entry form off for this Round?

[jimmy]

mines on mi desk, waiting for a cheque and John Price is sending his this week.

[OldTimer]

Posted mine today ;)

[jimmy]

blummin heck - mini S4? :p

[OldTimer]

:D...

[c0sie]

Ace!

Remember guys, entries close Saturday (last delivery from Royal Mail)
See ya in a few weeks!

[renejespersen]

Have you ever heard of the Internet ?.. It is an easy way to send informations over large distance quick. :D

[c0sie]

Now you've confused me.

[frogger]

Have you ever heard of the Internet ?.. It is an easy way to send informations over large distance quick. :D

I think he means online entry and payment as apposed to sending a form and cheque. ;) :D

[c0sie]

Rome wasnt built in a day ;)
It'll be in place for UKMX :)

[OldTimer]

We fill a form out and send a cheque for the 1/10 off road nationals, so this is just the same.

[renejespersen]

you brits are spending to much time at the pub instead of following the digital revolution :)
I have startet a new one18th forum in Denmark to day in hope that this will collect the micro racers and thereby getting the 18th scale just as popular in DK as in UK.. you can check it out on www.dkmicrorc.frac.dk - even if it is danish most of it :)

[c0sie]

Hey make sure you keep us upto date on any big interesting events for the 1/18th in Denmark!

[renejespersen]

I will..
You are free to join the webpage to bring your knowledge and experience into danish racing. I can make a forum just for you if you want to.. There i can post some important and relevant informations for you in english..

[renejespersen]

I'll try to post results and so on from your nationals hence it is of great interest for the danish racers. So keep me updated with those informations.

[c0sie]

Yeah will be a good thing. With the 1.18th scene being so new its hard to find out where abouts in the world (other than USA and UK) that there is alot of micro racing

[renejespersen]

I have made a thread to you english talking folks.
It would be nice if you Cosie would provide us with text and images on our forum. And i will do the same for you. Sign up and choose english and most of the menu's will be english for you.. if you need a translation just write me :) Reportager is the place to post results and pics from races.. :)

[renejespersen]

Nice job c0sie.. :)

[wezzer]

pmsl

Nowt that a swift slapping wont resolve :)

Oh yeah..Hereford is gonna be ace!
oh yeah ????
bring it lady boy !!!!!
( i aint a bully Craig just up for a laugh,:D )

[c0sie]

I never thought id see the day you said no to a man slapping you..

:D lol

[wezzer]

nor me , i thought YOU were gona do it anyhow lol:wtf:

[evilbert]

Jimmy,

I have just had the updated entry list and i noticed that you had entered.

As we all know your camera skills are second to none and i am unable to be there on the day to get any action shots for the UKMICROX website. I have asked Wezzer to get a few for me but if you do take any on the day would it be possible for you to e-mail or send a CD with them on to me. obviously you would have your logo on them and you would be credited to the pics but it would be a great addition to our site.

Thanks in advance.

[c0sie]

I second the above statement :)

[c0sie]

Heatlist and Timetable

[Oscar]

Were in heat One you and I Mr oOple, do you think we will be able to pull off the illusion of driving like novices??

I suspect we'll find that bit quite easy:D

[jimmy]

No problem there john I'm sure! :)

[Danosborne6661]

You going to be doing Snaps on the day Jimmy? :D

[jimmy]

I might do yeah, but my big camera stuff is going on ebay this week so I will only have my 3.5 year old one

[jimmy]

Heatlist and Timetable

I don't have any emails with me (at work) so who do I contact to add a PT number to my entry?

[c0sie]

Id email Kev Bradley (address is on the entry form) and let him know.

He'll probably advise telling Race Control on the day, but to be safe id email Kev.

[OldTimer]

I might do yeah, but my big camera stuff is going on ebay this week so I will only have my 3.5 year old one

Are you selling up and stopping doing the photos or getting shot to get some new gear Jimmy :yawn:

[Oscar]

Jonathan, I'm suprised you don't know what Jimmy is like for getting new toys;):D

[jimmy]

;)
I managed to squeeze a 12th scale Futaba metal geared servo in my TamTech now - it's gonna be awesome :D

[c0sie]

Got any pics fellas?

[jimmy]

mines in a thousand bits :wtf:
The tamtech gb02 is a nightmare to take apart as it uses hidden away eclips which are a bitch to take off. should be done in time ! haha.

I'll be trying out the Tekin B1 in it also, mated up to the speed300 motor.

[jimmy]

Heres mi ride:


http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/buggychampion01.jpg
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/buggychampion02.jpg


Just the servo (futaba metal geared job) in at the moment. I have a graupner speed 300 to go in yet along with the sanwa 2.4ghz receiver and Tekin B1R esc.
Shell is painted in traditional rough rider style but in my colours (candy red backed with chrome, pearl white)
In no way shape or form as good as an FTX I'm sure - but it looks nice I think :)

[frogger]

That looks amazing! Love it!

Can't wait to see it around the track at Hereford :D

Please post pics up when it's all completed.:)

[jimmy]

Thanks mate, yeah we'll have to see if I can even get it round the track without embarassing myself:)

[Oscar]

Here's mine;):)

[OldTimer]

Ok here is a pic of the slimferno i will be running at the weekend hopefully ;)

[jimmy]

Nice cars guys! Is your special machine going to be ready Jonathan? Looks good so far - the Kyosho cars don't seem that popular but this looks good.

[frogger]

Not quite your standard of photography Jimmy but it's the best I can do!

Rock on Hereford! :grin:

http://carlventer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/rc2.JPG

http://carlventer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/rc4.JPG

[OldTimer]

Is your special machine going to be ready Jonathan? L

I am working on it being ready for Sunday ;)

[Danosborne6661]

MINES READY :D

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2357/dscf1954au8.jpg

[jimmy]

nice! these all look a bit like serious race cars - I'm starting to feel a bit silly with mine.

[c0sie]

Dont feel silly Jimmy,

Tis all about having fun on the day..be it battling for the win or just having a laugh jumping around the track :)

[Danosborne6661]

You'd be good! Hereford put on a good day for the Open meeting

[Mini-JT]

....

[c0sie]

My Blaze..

Excuse the gash lighting :(

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3061/dsc00030dt5.th.jpg (http://img251.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00030dt5.jpg)http://img467.imageshack.us/img467/4210/dsc00031si2.th.jpg (http://img467.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00031si2.jpg)

[GRIFF55]

Those windows look good, nice change from the norm!!

[4_cell_racer]

Dont feel silly Jimmy,

Tis all about having fun on the day..be it battling for the win or just having a laugh jumping around the track :)
Tis true......

I saw a Tamtech run last Sunday (might be the same model as yours Jimmy?) and was VERY surprised at how well it handled the jumps :o

[frogger]

JT's Mini-T flies and I imagine the Tamiya's to be at least as good so you have no worries Jimmy. There are loads of us with serious looking cars who are not serious drivers so it's all about rocking up, havin a laugh and eating some burgers (if the van shows up :D).

[Oscar]

J so it's all about rocking up, havin a laugh and eating some burgers (if the van shows up :D).

Ahh but do they serve fish, and what are the vinegar stocks like?? :):)

(don't worry if you don't get the joke, I'm sure the persons who it refers to will :D )

[Oscar]

Just done a couple of small mods, the servo being mounted on tape was poor, so I fabricated a couple of alloy minature servo posts. Also when running the hitec red servo saver, it caught the chassis so i have removed a little chassis material. I also made the servo posts so the servo is a mm or so raised. Between the two it no longer fouls the chassis.

[Danosborne6661]

I cut a big whole in my chassis to clear my kimbro :D

[jimmy]

You got a proper servo this time John? :) I see you're not taking any chances this time hehe.

[Oscar]

You got a proper servo this time John? :) I see you're not taking any chances this time hehe.
had a proper servo last time, just it didn't like landing off the jumps without a servo saver on :mad:

[Rob]

Just done a couple of small mods, the servo being mounted on tape was poor, so I fabricated a couple of alloy minature servo posts.

There is a FTX carbon servo hold down mount available, works very well. FTX4127

http://www.cmldistribution.co.uk/product.php?productId=0000001355

[strobe]

Popped over to this event today as it is only a few miles away.
How quick are those 1/18 scale cars.
Track looked the Dog's doo dars. well layed out track with a bit of everything. Big table top and a banked corner.
Looked like the drivers were enjoying themselves racing on that track.

[c0sie]

Glad to enjoyed watching the madness!
The event was brilliant!
Craig did himsefl proud and his ST looked dialled from the very beginning.
Jimmy's Tamiya suprised many a person, but you forgot your trophy :D
And John qualifyed 2nd in the B...not too shoddy for a maiden voyage with a new car :)

[jimmy]

I got up before 4am! I was too knackerd to hold a trophy anyway! I will have to pick it up next time! :D

Yeah my Tamiya was awesome - very pleased with it.

[c0sie]

4am?
I didnt think such nasties existed!!

[Oscar]

And John qualifyed 2nd in the B...not too shoddy for a maiden voyage with a new car :)

Car needs a few little tweaks and it will be on the pace. A little dissapointed to have missed the A by only 7 seconds, but can't expect too much for first time out eh?;)
I enjoyed the track and the event was well run. A big thanks to the guy who kindly sold me a "proper" motor, my std one was pathetic (maybe i just got a bad one, many others looked fine)
See you all at the next one in January:)

[c0sie]

John, just to fuel my curiosity..is there any reason why you chose the wider ST over the thinner Blaze at all?

[jimmy]

Thanks btw for all your help cOsie - had a great time

I didn't realise I almost won my final after being off the track and last after half a lap :p TamTech rules!:wtf:

[c0sie]

Anytime fella. Always here to help :)
Sorry you had to 'trim' your rear bumper!

PS: Do you need my home address at all?

[jimmy]

yeah PM me dude!
I think the car looks better without that rear bumper bit to be honest so it's all good! :)
Got a trailing front arm kit on order to change the mini frog I have into another 'buggy champ' like I was racing, so vicky can race too! :)

[DCM]

does the trailing arm setup work better Jim?

[jimmy]

It's a lot better yes. Might not be modern or even perfect at all - but it's a big improvement I think. Gonna try and make a mod to move the lower shock mount back to help the shocks stiffen up under compression - at the moment the front end gets softer toward full compression.

Everything I said about the front end of the GB01 / frog in the review remains true - it's poo.

[Oscar]

John, just to fuel my curiosity..is there any reason why you chose the wider ST over the thinner Blaze at all?

Because thinking logically, a wider car will be more stable over bumps/ jumps and should be able to hold more corner speed.

[jimmy]

are cut down tyres allowed? If I want to adapt some schumachers onto my little wheels?

[Body Paint]

no cut and shuts Jimmy...

Must have been your fan club spurring you on to victory, was so close at the end.

[RogerM]

Jimmy,

how did the GB02 compare against the 4wd buggies???

I'm thinking of getting a TamTech to race as a 2wd to help improve my 2wd style and almost ordered a Fox last week .... sort of glad I didn't now! Would really like to get my hands on a TamTech (GB01 and GB02 to look at and compare but nobody I know has either :( ) I bet that the GB02 could be made to handle with a few tweaks .... If I can get my hands on a GB01 car / front end I should be able to make a few bits to make it a little more conventional ...... {lathe and mill in the garage}

Cosie,

would be great if the results sheets showed what cars were used (along with motors etc.) as I am sure I am not alone in trying to pin down a shopping list!!! Loving the Exotek (assuming i can get a single 5 min run out of a servo that is!!!) but the rest of a kit is somewhat of a mystery!

[RogerM]

Do anybody use rubber TC tyres, either patterned or even something like Schmy rally blocks??

Not overly keen on foams due to the cost of getting them trued up (and the mess if you have a truer at home)

[jimmy]

I raced with mini pins on touring wheels when I raced the blaze - just missed out on the A - so it was good. I think Mr.Harris was running schumacher rally block or something - and he won!

GB01 would need a bit of work to make the front end viable I think - as soon as you compare the two side by side you can see how flimsy, flexible and bizzare the '01 car is.
the buggy champ gb02 I was driving handled very well and I think there's more to come.. never gonna beat the top guys with a 4WD, but it was very good indeed

[RogerM]

We can fix it Jimmy ....... ;)

Now I just need to get my hands on one!!!!

[c0sie]

Roger - Ill look into getting the cars on the results matey.

Why not look into the Losi Mini-T Pro if you are after 2WD?

[frogger]

Roger, get over to www.geckotyres.com (http://www.geckotyres.com) and get a set of 30 shore fronts all round. Richard was a nice enough fellow to true mine down for me to 57mm.

There were a few people running various rubber tyres yesterday and I sometimes run Schumacher Carpet Dragons as well.

[RogerM]

Roger - Ill look into getting the cars on the results matey.

Why not look into the Losi Mini-T Pro if you are after 2WD?


Because I have a great dislike of all of Losi's products after the XX-CR buggy ... their designs don't suit the way I drive!!

[DCM]

hey Jim, I am thinking about some TC shocks for the GB02T

[Body Paint]

I did indeed run rally blocks all round, they were just the right amount of grip.

Jimmy's GB02 was simply amazing!! I took the p*** out of it before practise but I (and many others) were amazed by how well it went. Only place it struggled was on the Lino (slippy floor)

[RogerM]

Jimmy (anybody else who knows),

what hop-ups and equipment were fitted to the GB02 ...... anybody got any pics of it running????

Why am I so interested ... lol?????

[jimmy]

john did a video of it in the C final. I;m doing a write up on the hopped up car. The car had aeration dampers on the rear (AE 40wt) and CVA dampers on the front (losi 35wt). SC tyres all round, alloy rear diff, alloy turnbuckles and alloy ball studs. Tamiya Titanium screw kit. Futaba metal geared 12th servo. Graupner Speed300 motor. Tekin B1R esc.

I'll do the write up on those, but I do have some more stuff on the way which should be cool.

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/buggychamp.jpg


Standard car with the speed300 and CVA shocks would be good tho.

[RogerM]

looks great ......

I think I may take the plunge!!!!!

[biggusditchus]

Good to hear that without major changes the Tamiya did so well, I tried the Buggy Champ at one of qualifying heats at Ellesmere Port Winter Series and was pleasantly surprised. It was mostly standard apart from the Sport Tuned Motor (sloooow) and 3 racing shocks.

Since then I have decided to race it more often and have changed motor for a faster one and fitted Team Orion Trued Foams (same diameter as std wheels/tyres). Think I may have to give Round 5 a go, who cares if make a fool of myself..

http://www.tcphotos.com/getuserimage.asp?t=n&id=img280_30102007112137_2.jpg
pictured with my other halfs blaze.

[frogger]

I must admit that Jimmy's Tamiya was my favourite car of the day. The incredible thing was that it made no sound, no sound at all! It would come past you and look so smooth and controlled but you couldn't hear it, freaky! :wtf: :D

[RogerM]

Just out of interest ... how much does a TamTech weigh ready to race???

[biggusditchus]

With personal transponder, battery etc mine weighs a little under 710g, thats with touring car wheels (with Tamiya mini steel rear axles for front wheels to spin on, looking for lighter ones).

Incidentally I have just done this to lower shock mount and it makes a vast difference to how it feels, time will only tell how it handles.
http://www.tcphotos.com/getuserimage.asp?t=n&id=img280_30102007112137_3.jpg

[jimmy]

nice one, I was talking on sunday of making a bracket to move the lower shock mount back a few mm - like you say it should make a big difference as it gets softer the more you compress right now! crazy. This looks even simpler - I assume there's no chance of it hitting the wheel?
I might try with my bracket idea and if it doesn't work try this way.

[Thomas P]

Roger, get over to www.geckotyres.com (http://www.geckotyres.com) and get a set of 30 shore fronts all round. Richard was a nice enough fellow to true mine down for me to 57mm.

There were a few people running various rubber tyres yesterday and I sometimes run Schumacher Carpet Dragons as well.

Frogger, did you run? how did the new AC towers worked on the TEK18?

[frogger]

Hey Thomas,

Yes, I was there. Got 2nd place in the B-final Mod class. I ran my Mini Infero ST for a few qualifyers and then used my RC18B Exotek for the last qualifyer and final (for no reason other than I wanted to try both cars).

The Atomic Carbon held up a treat but we think they are slightly over engineered and Jonathan is looking at making a slightly flatter version (say 3-4mm carbon).

If you are interested in a pair please Jonathan or myself know. We have a few people who have been asking after these now so a production run might be nearing a possibility ;)

[DCM]

how did you get TC wheels onto the Tamiya??

[biggusditchus]

I bought a Tamtech Ferrari kit and in the kit was a set of adaptors for 12mm hexes so that was rear sorted. On front the bearing diameter is smaller on Buggy Champ than on other Tamtechs it uses 850 bearings so I used a Tamiya Mini rear axle with a spacer on inside, simple then to add a drive pin, hex and bolt up wheel. (just ordered an alu axle to reduce weight as the steel mini axle is heavy.)

In first photo I didnt have the mini axle fitted, tried something else bout couldnt get wheels centered properly.

[RogerM]

There are off the shelf parts from GPM which will do the conversion ... ali too.