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ak33
13-11-2007, 12:12 AM
I’m looking for a new 4wd 1/10 buggy for next season, I want something that’s durable so I spend more time racing and less time wrenching!!

AndyM
13-11-2007, 06:43 AM
a BJ4 WE is almost indestructable, very very strong cars, nd great to drive,

hope this helps :D

Teddy truman
13-11-2007, 08:07 AM
D4......... solid as a rock.

mark christopher
13-11-2007, 08:16 AM
the best one is the one that dont crash!

got a d4 and its strong

trekkerkk
13-11-2007, 08:23 AM
d4 has been strength tested by a mr ralls cartwheeling the entire(well nearly)straight off eden park,still went on to win,
as teddy has said solid as a rock,

trekkker

dan_kitty
13-11-2007, 10:06 AM
cant talk for any others, but my d4 has proved to be strong, touch wood no breakages yet.

jimmy
13-11-2007, 10:27 AM
I think the Tamiya 501X is one of the strongest cars out there - but it takes more time wrenching to keep it in top condition than something like the BJ4we or D4 etc because of their sealed drivetrains.
I raced the BJ4we for a year - apart from the front arms and a shock tower the car never needed any work

chrispattinson
13-11-2007, 10:37 AM
Tamiya TRF501X - can't break the thing, and believe me I have tried, including it getting locked on full throttle down the straight into a wall.

Alfonzo
13-11-2007, 01:26 PM
Pred X10. Plenty strong, unlike the early 1990's models.

stefke
13-11-2007, 01:39 PM
Pred X10. Plenty strong, unlike the early 1990's models.

Good they did improve. I raced A Pedator back in the 90'ies and the thing broke when looked upon. :eh?:

I can confirm that the TRF501X must be the strongest 4wd out there in terms of chassis and suspension. I never saw a suspension arm break. A few guys over here with BJ4's actually modified tamiya arms to fit on their BJ's because they are much beefier. I also agree that the closed drivetrains on the BJ or D4 require less maintenance.

My conclusion would be : if you want low maintenance : get a BJ4 or D4. If you want a car that will always get you to the finish line of a race, get the TRF501X

vinny20
13-11-2007, 02:31 PM
if u want a seriouse 4wd kit make no mistake the yokomo mr4-BX is the best one out there i have one my self and trust me its very very competetive nothing will touch it dont be a fool going for the crap any other companys

Wraggy
13-11-2007, 02:42 PM
yokomo mr4-BX is the best one out there i have one my self and trust me its very very competetive nothing will touch it

REALLY !!!! maybe a little naive ..:wtf:

IceMike
13-11-2007, 02:44 PM
go for a B44 handles great. cant say anything about it breakin though. i ant broke mine yet thats good :p

RLGfx
13-11-2007, 02:46 PM
REALLY !!!! maybe a little naive ..:wtf:

maybe he meant nobody will touch it!

Swiss
13-11-2007, 03:21 PM
Pred X10. Plenty strong, unlike the early 1990's models.

MMMM... I had one for 6mths, I think I completed one 5min run!

Southwell
13-11-2007, 03:25 PM
if u want a seriouse 4wd kit make no mistake the yokomo mr4-BX is the best one out there i have one my self and trust me its very very competetive nothing will touch it dont be a fool going for the crap any other companys

The car that kills diffs by dirt integration and breaks shock towers like nothing ive ever seen :D Bathy once broke 4 in a meeting :o and they wernt bad crashes!
The car that is 'the best out there' finished 8th in the nats in the hands of Neil Cragg, yeah great....;)

rcracer
13-11-2007, 03:26 PM
I would echo the comments on the 501x really strong ,even though i have switched to a S4 now which i may add i am in the process of fitting 501x arms then my s4 will also be bomb proof :D


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dont be a fool going for the crap any other companys

mmm :rolleyes:

mole2k
13-11-2007, 03:57 PM
Yokomo's dont even go that well indoors away from dirt. One came into our club and lasted about 3-4 months. The guy got fed up with diffs that shredded themselves, he even snapped a few driveshafts with a 19t motor...

The strongest car i've see would be the BJ4 or the Tamiya 501x, The d4 i've seen explode into bits hitting a wall!

vinny20
13-11-2007, 04:15 PM
Yokomo's dont even go that well indoors away from dirt. One came into our club and lasted about 3-4 months. The guy got fed up with diffs that shredded themselves, he even snapped a few driveshafts with a 19t motor...

The strongest car i've see would be the BJ4 or the Tamiya 501x, The d4 i've seen explode into bits hitting a wall!


i think u are forgetting somthing at the euros 07 the yokomo came 2nd not bad for the japanese car and just to let u no rc racing was mostley developed in japan so if the mr4-bx has problems they can fix it dont u worry

Wraggy
13-11-2007, 04:22 PM
i think u are forgetting somthing at the euros 07 the yokomo came 2nd

in the hands of Craggy !!!
where was the next placed yok ????

and waht won the years national & worlds ... they were not yoks ....

so not the best car in the world and a very bold statement saying everything else was Crap !!!!!!...

Lee
13-11-2007, 04:38 PM
Vinnie needs to be mamba`d:D


Wraggy needs to beat the yok out of him:o

footey
13-11-2007, 04:48 PM
i was running a 4.5 novak in my bj4we at york indoor and went flat out down the straight where i hit a wall and survived with all still intact got to be the biggest inpact ive seen and heard

ak33
13-11-2007, 04:50 PM
Im thinking of buying the B44, will that hold up well?

Lee
13-11-2007, 04:59 PM
It might hold up the other 9 cars in the race:o:D jk

RLGfx
13-11-2007, 05:06 PM
one thing you can garuantee with the b44 is that there'll be a lot of people who will carry spares just in case, and a mine of information regarding setups etc...

Colinevan
13-11-2007, 05:43 PM
My opinion the 501x.:D

Iv owned a few 4wd cars, inc a yokomo, lazer zx5, bosscat, procat,egress,avante,trf501x, lazer zxr, optima mid to name a few over the years.

The car that i have broken least is the 501, The only things broken include the front shcok tower and shock shafts either bent or snapped. Not bad considering 4.5 sintered power and a slightly throttle mad thumb.

Col.

Colinevan
13-11-2007, 05:48 PM
i think u are forgetting somthing at the euros 07 the yokomo came 2nd not bad for the japanese car and just to let u no rc racing was mostley developed in japan so if the mr4-bx has problems they can fix it dont u worry


Vinny, the Yokomo was the car to have 10 years ago. I remember when dogfighters were the best to have, very expensive compared to the likes of what i sued to run and genreally used to win all the meetings that i used to attend too.

No one runs the yokomo anymore as its expensive and spares etc are not easily available from uk stockists like they are for other 4wd cars. Just out of curiosity do you race yours?

mole2k
13-11-2007, 06:38 PM
i think u are forgetting somthing at the euros 07 the yokomo came 2nd not bad for the japanese car and just to let u no rc racing was mostley developed in japan so if the mr4-bx has problems they can fix it dont u worry

I dont remember saying it was slow, I just said from what i've seen its not a tough car as thats what the thread was about.

Out of the 501x's in my my club (3) only one has ever bent a shock shaft, there hasnt been any other breakages.

RLGfx
13-11-2007, 07:53 PM
can i just point out vinny, 5 days ago you were asking whatis the best 4wd around as you're starting back up... exactly how much running have you done with the Yok BX?:eh?::confused::D

xx4-nutter
13-11-2007, 08:08 PM
theres no strongest car out there... down to the driver really. somthing with small towers and chunky arms must be a start ?

the 501x has that ?

vinny20
13-11-2007, 08:52 PM
can i just point out vinny, 5 days ago you were asking whatis the best 4wd around as you're starting back up... exactly how much running have you done with the Yok BX?:eh?::confused::D


if u have one then u can find out 4 yuorself if u dont have one then theres no point 2 say much about about a top car and company:mad::mad::p:p

ashleyb4
13-11-2007, 08:58 PM
have you driven the other cars to compare them to your yoke bx???

A

RLGfx
13-11-2007, 09:01 PM
no, i haven't run one, i used to have yoks though, and the YZ10 was a great car at the time, but the MX4 (which I had, it was poo) and everything after (apparently) have just not been competitive in the UK.

I won't say they are bad quailty, I agree yokomo are superbly finished and look great... shame the BX just doesn't go too well (again, from what I've heard, not from personal experience) and isn't strong, which is after all what this thread is about! :rolleyes:;)








so how much have you run it then? :confused:

vinny20
13-11-2007, 09:17 PM
it also depends on how u build it i have no problem and its been 1 week so far the car had hard impacts on it no probs and the diff was not a prob

Cooper
13-11-2007, 09:35 PM
MMMM... I had one for 6mths, I think I completed one 5min run!


You don't have to take OFFROAD litterly....stay on the green stuff dude, and don't hit hard boardings.

The pred is a racecar, not a robotwars-thing ;)

xx4-nutter
13-11-2007, 09:35 PM
this is one thing that really annoys me about forums..

somone asks a question somone replys then other people rant and have a go at somone else..

Cooper
13-11-2007, 09:42 PM
going offtopic is my second hobby :p

ashleyb4
13-11-2007, 09:44 PM
it also depends on how u build it i have no problem and its been 1 week so far the car had hard impacts on it no probs and the diff was not a prob

trust me try somethig like a xx4 or a b44 and you will soon find your BX to be slow and weak. I have two friends who both run the BX and they seem to break lots. and the cars dont seem to be that quick at all.

A

xx4-nutter
13-11-2007, 09:48 PM
trust me try somethig like a xx4 or a b44 and you will soon find your BX to be slow and weak. I have two friends who both run the BX and they seem to break lots. and the cars dont seem to be that quick at all.

A


ash the xx4 has the most drag with the 3 belts so wouldnt say its that quick pal, nice car, not really strong but still love it :)

Richard Lowe
13-11-2007, 09:51 PM
It might hold up the other 9 cars in the race:o:D jk
Mwahahahaha!!! :p

ashleyb4
13-11-2007, 09:52 PM
What the xx4 is a quick car I dont mean fast in a straight line its quick around the track alot faster than cars like the yoke BX and i dont understand why people say its weak still havent broken much.

A

Cooper
13-11-2007, 09:53 PM
here we go again....

ashleyb4
13-11-2007, 09:54 PM
:D;):p

A

xx4-nutter
13-11-2007, 10:09 PM
What the xx4 is a quick car I dont mean fast in a straight line its quick around the track alot faster than cars like the yoke BX and i dont understand why people say its weak still havent broken much.

A

shock towers ?.. belts ? ..

ben
13-11-2007, 10:12 PM
imo i think that the atomic carbon s4 is one of the toughest cars around. No belts to break like the xx4. I havent broken a shock tower yet.

xx4-nutter
13-11-2007, 10:14 PM
i have to agree there with you Ben, my dads just got one and they are built like a brick lol!
aint you just dropped ur xx4 anyways ben for the s4 ? you seem alot faster with the new car i gotta say

Richard Lowe
13-11-2007, 10:25 PM
imo i think that the atomic carbon s4 is one of the toughest cars around. No belts to break like the xx4. I havent broken a shock tower yet.
I seem to remember you breaking another carbon component that is a bit bigger than a shock tower, wonder what it was... :wtf:

ben
13-11-2007, 10:28 PM
well it was sorta broken when i got it but it was one of the old style chassis which curved up at the back. I dropped the xx4 simply for the reliability reasons.

lil ben

Richard Lowe
13-11-2007, 10:29 PM
well it was sorta broken when i got it
Haha, you're just an animal :p

ben
13-11-2007, 10:40 PM
some could say that.

lil ben

Col
14-11-2007, 07:10 AM
Haha, you're just an animal :p

some could say that.

I'll second that!

mw02veg
14-11-2007, 09:12 PM
the yok is a tough car!!! i must admit i personally have had shock towers made for me that are a couple of mm thicker and the out drives used to open up but yokomo have sorted that out! other than that i think ive broke a wishbone and that was due to driver error. i would say the 1 car 2 avoid though at the risk of affending ppl would be the xx4 (pretty brittle).

vinny20
14-11-2007, 09:47 PM
the yok is a tough car!!! i must admit i personally have had shock towers made for me that are a couple of mm thicker and the out drives used to open up but yokomo have sorted that out! other than that i think ive broke a wishbone and that was due to driver error. i would say the 1 car 2 avoid though at the risk of affending ppl would be the xx4 (pretty brittle).


thank u at least somone likes a top company :)

ashleyb4
14-11-2007, 10:00 PM
Hardly brittle ive hit the wall at kiddy flat out and i did nothing the bx is brittle.

A

langers
14-11-2007, 10:14 PM
i race a xx4 and the car handles relly well and feels great to drive but the price for that is 5 front shock towers and one rear and 2 front belts and 2 front wishbones in around 5 meetings and parts are expensive and the car is weak

mw02veg
14-11-2007, 10:55 PM
sorry ashley i must apologise ur always right everyone else is wrong my bad ;) numpty

grant williams

KyoshoK
15-11-2007, 06:32 AM
zx5 with a few hop up is VERY strong. early models had weak shock towers but they have been beefed up about 3 months ago

pretty much all the cars these days are very strong (except the predator x10 is a heap of junk)

buy the shaft drive car if you want less maintenance though.

Northy
15-11-2007, 08:51 AM
except the predator x10 is a heap of junk.....

Can you explain this please? I don't understand why you think that.....

G

ak33
17-11-2007, 01:01 AM
thats everyone for your input, Im gonna go with the B44 ;)

mole2k
17-11-2007, 07:38 AM
The Pred's one of the best cars i've ever drove. The shear amount of power it can put down is insane.

xx4-nutter
17-11-2007, 10:32 AM
sorry ashley i must apologise ur always right everyone else is wrong my bad ;) numpty

grant williams

ROTFLMAO!

Welshy40
20-11-2007, 09:24 PM
[quote=RLGfx;70633]no, i haven't run one, i used to have yoks though, and the YZ10 was a great car at the time,

YZ10, I remeber going head on with my ZXR and snapped a YZ10 wishbone (uncut one) and that was impressive as I only got one scratch on my wishbone. Bang on and that was with a lot of modification and trial and error. Yes the YZ10 and Lazer were the two main cars in that period of time.

But nowadays I have to admit Tamiya is gonna be hard to beat in standard form as that car is not only stunningly designed (ok not cleverly done on keeping the dirt out, but then again they are copying previous kyosho car designs) but the car is designed not to break unlike the rest of Tamiyas cars which break when its windy. Its rather unusual for them to make a good car.

Then again if you want a low maintenance car then the shaft drive Assoiciated would be a good bet as well. Its all down to which way the scales balance for you with belts and shafts. Me I am seriously thinking about the tamiya myself.

matt
20-11-2007, 09:45 PM
When i had my BX i only did 1 shock tower and a belt that was my fault. When i had the XX4 it was a money pit. I only had to think about booking in and it would do a belt and a wishbone in a matter of seconds. So i would say a BX or a BJ4.

Benh
22-11-2007, 01:44 PM
Toughest car has to be - Kyosho ZX5 LOL!!!!:rolleyes:

stefke
22-11-2007, 01:50 PM
Toughest car has to be - Kyosho ZX5 LOL!!!!:rolleyes:

Looking at the smilies and the "LOL" part, I'm guessing you mean this in an sarcastic way.
If so, I must agree. The ZX5 is as tough as a 90'ies Predator.

Southwell
22-11-2007, 02:04 PM
but the car is designed not to break unlike the rest of Tamiyas cars which break when its windy. Its rather unusual for them to make a good car.



But you have to realise that most Tamiyas are not built to be competition models, they are designed for fun bashing, so are cheap and break easier.

Welshy40
22-11-2007, 05:23 PM
But you have to realise that most Tamiyas are not built to be competition models, they are designed for fun bashing, so are cheap and break easier.

I agree but my very first rc car was a falcon and seriously wind can break it, as it pretty much did on the first run, a little bump at slow speed and a costly repair. However this car is a new breed and I hope Tamiya carry on this route, as they will take a large chunk of sales from every one else.