buggys and carpet....damage?!?

[clumsysaint]

hi.....im after people opinions regarding running buggys on carpet.....

do buggys running minipins damage the prima racing carpet in anyway??

some off the touring car guys are moaning at our local club saying that they have suffered a loss off grip since we started running buggys there.

they say its fluffing the pile up on the carpet......would that be the case?

any info and previous experiences would be great!!

thanks.

[racingdwarf]

What tyres do they use, and do they run addative?

as i have heard of probs if they use slick/foam tyres with addative, as mini pins are more agressive and can change the lay of the pile:confused:

[clumsysaint]

there running schumacher yellow mini pins which are more or less bald mate

what foams and slicks are people using,where they geting them from?

[ch!3f]

there moaning because they dont want you to race buggies there basiclly!

because your all using new mini pins it will rough the carpet up but shouldnt effect then really if there using similar tyres,fair enough they run them till there dead but thats there fault for been tight and not buying new tyres.

p.s you wont damage the carpet any more then they are using mini pins

[lotussmart]

hi.....im after people opinions regarding running buggys on carpet.....

do buggys running minipins damage the prima racing carpet in anyway??

some off the touring car guys are moaning at our local club saying that they have suffered a loss off grip since we started running buggys there.

they say its fluffing the pile up on the carpet......would that be the case?

any info and previous experiences would be great!!

thanks.

I have first hand experience of what you are asking as we have run buggies on sections of our carpet track that were not covered and on some new carpet we bought for the Petit and YES it completely destroys it from a grip perspective and from an impact perspective. Landing areas will look like they have been machine gunned unless you cover them with hardboard, and the mini pins strip the carpet back to what looks like a new layer of carpet and all grip and additive is removed, it then took us 2 weeks or racing and practice to get the grip back. So don't do it, unless people run foams and cover tops of shock towers to protect your carpet when they roll. I'm all for foams, that way we could convert to a buggy track within a matter of minutes and even run a TC and Buggy club night. But can you get foams for buggies and the bigger question is would people invest in a set to come carpet buggy racing? I for one would like to give this a try.

[DCM]

pins line the nap up on the carpet, so if you are racing any form of slick tyre, you have a massive loss in grip. We ended up using foams and additive to overcome the lack of grip and banned pins.

[clumsysaint]

thanks for the help and advice fellas.....ill pass all the info on to the guys!

[tmaxxlosixxx]

there running schumacher yellow mini pins which are more or less bald mate

what foams and slicks are people using,where they geting them from?

yea we used to run mini pins on buggys we changed to foams well some us have due to cost of mini pins foams last a hell of alot longer mini pins last a couple of weeks for club use its dear it does affect the carpet we have tourers and f1s their and it affects their grip levels

[ch!3f]

yea we used to run mini pins on buggys we changed to foams well some us have due to cost of mini pins foams last a hell of alot longer mini pins last a couple of weeks for club use its dear it does affect the carpet we have tourers and f1s their and it affects their grip levels

where can you get foams and wheels for a buggy?

[Razer]

I have first hand experience of what you are asking as we have run buggies on sections of our carpet track that were not covered and on some new carpet we bought for the Petit and YES it completely destroys it from a grip perspective and from an impact perspective. Landing areas will look like they have been machine gunned unless you cover them with hardboard, and the mini pins strip the carpet back to what looks like a new layer of carpet and all grip and additive is removed, it then took us 2 weeks or racing and practice to get the grip back. So don't do it, unless people run foams and cover tops of shock towers to protect your carpet when they roll. I'm all for foams, that way we could convert to a buggy track within a matter of minutes and even run a TC and Buggy club night. But can you get foams for buggies and the bigger question is would people invest in a set to come carpet buggy racing? I for one would like to give this a try.

In Norway we run minispikes and minipins, cut as slick tires. With Nosram carpet additive and 2-stage inserts they work very, very well, the grip is a bit more like outdoors, and it's very smooth. And they also last a looooong time!

Something for you to try maybe;-)

[tmaxxlosixxx]

where can you get foams and wheels for a buggy?
try kamtec for foams and wheels just use normal ones we all do

[Apricot Slice]

where can you get foams and wheels for a buggy?

http://www.rc-direct.co.uk/-c-39_198_205.html

we use these. ^
Takes a bit of doing.
I strip the inner ribs of regular wheels and mount the tires Mardave style.
one tire will do two wheels.
(I expect someone will tell you a better way of doing it)

[clumsysaint]

do you just glue the foams to the rim then??

ive heard some say they use thin double sided tape and that works well....

[tmaxxlosixxx]

do you just glue the foams to the rim then??

ive heard some say they use thin double sided tape and that works well....

yea some ppl glue them,sum use double sided tape

[tmaxxlosixxx]

In Norway we run minispikes and minipins, cut as slick tires. With Nosram carpet additive and 2-stage inserts they work very, very well, the grip is a bit more like outdoors, and it's very smooth. And they also last a looooong time!

Something for you to try maybe;-)

how well doe those slick mini pins go on carpet wot compound do u use thanx

[clumsysaint]

the minipins ive been running are as bald as it gets.....and to be honest i hardly noticed any lose in grip at all! if anything it made it easier to drive around some sections.

but hey thats just me lol

[tmaxxlosixxx]

wot club u race at mate

[clumsysaint]

west mids area mate.....

marstons model car club and telford rc club

only just started using buggy indoors for a change....im into the outdoor scene alot more

[tmaxxlosixxx]

i been marston a couple of times their wernt many buggys their that was august last year tho lol

[pat*1]

hi.....im after people opinions regarding running buggys on carpet.....

do buggys running minipins damage the prima racing carpet in anyway??

some off the touring car guys are moaning at our local club saying that they have suffered a loss off grip since we started running buggys there.

they say its fluffing the pile up on the carpet......would that be the case?

any info and previous experiences would be great!!

thanks.
Get rid of the snoring cars and only run buggy's:woot:

[tmaxxlosixxx]

west mids area mate.....

marstons model car club and telford rc club

only just started using buggy indoors for a change....im into the outdoor scene alot more

you want to come along to dudley on friday theirs a few buggys their and all friendly

[clumsysaint]

i been marston a couple of times their wernt many buggys their that was august last year tho lol


theres alot more buggys running now matey,even though its still a new thing for the lads who race there.....but there trying to find the alternative to the mini pins.....so the carpet isnt spoilt for the touring cars.

[Apricot Slice]

do you just glue the foams to the rim then??

ive heard some say they use thin double sided tape and that works well....

I cut out the two middle ribs on the wheel, slap on some double sided tape, give it a squirt with some 'glue melty stuff' (i have some break and clutch cleaning sprey for that) and slip the tire on.
I noticed that the Anneti tires are very resistant to chunking. not like touring car foams.

[Razer]

how well doe those slick mini pins go on carpet wot compound do u use thanx

I was about half a second slower when the guys that went to Petit were testing Minipins. And the wear is minimal.

We just cut the spikes off the yellows we've been using all summer, but some guys have tested the slick minipins now, and due to their stiffer sidewalls and such, they seem even better suited. Also, that doesn't wear the carpet any more than touring slicks.

Here's a vid of Ole Steen Karlsen and others:D All cars equipped with slick Minispikes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUb7VSvdbg0&feature=related

[tmaxxlosixxx]

I was about half a second slower when the guys that went to Petit were testing Minipins. And the wear is minimal.

We just cut the spikes off the yellows we've been using all summer, but some guys have tested the slick minipins now, and due to their stiffer sidewalls and such, they seem even better suited. Also, that doesn't wear the carpet any more than touring slicks.

Here's a vid of Ole Steen Karlsen and others:D All cars equipped with slick Minispikes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUb7VSvdbg0&feature=related

was that 2wd aswell they didnt look like they was struggling for grip any i will defo try it

[Razer]

was that 2wd aswell they didnt look like they was struggling for grip any i will defo try it

No, that was 4wd. Grip is not a lot lower, but it's a lot "softer", the tires don't dig into the carpet in the same way.

It's the only tire choice if you want to unite with touring people...

[Thomas B]

This is a race from this weekend in Sweden.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3Eis_J1fLo&feature=player_embedded

We use minipin and minispike as slick. We cut of all the studs and grind so the tiers are compleatly flat. We also use adative. Personally, I'm really sick of cut tires when there is finished rubber slicks on the market.

[Razer]

This is a race from this weekend in Sweden.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3Eis_J1fLo&feature=player_embedded

We use minipin and minispike as slick. We cut of all the studs and grind so the tiers are compleatly flat. We also use adative. Personally, I'm really sick of cut tires when there is finished rubber slicks on the market.

Schumacher started making cut stagger ribs, maybe we can get them to make slick minipins as well?

[Ritchie T]

This is a race from this weekend in Sweden.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3Eis_J1fLo&feature=player_embedded

We use minipin and minispike as slick. We cut of all the studs and grind so the tiers are compleatly flat. We also use adative. Personally, I'm really sick of cut tires when there is finished rubber slicks on the market.


Cool track!

[runar80]

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[simoncrabb]

Schumacher started making cut stagger ribs, maybe we can get them to make slick minipins as well?

I've heard that Schumacher *are* going to release slick tyres.

[clumsysaint]

well the buggy slicks would certainly solve the problem....let us know what you hear buddy....

[OneKiwi]

panther has slicks and don't cost that much, but at the mo they are not leagal in sweden... silly really

[tc3team]

i race at www.horshamrc.org

We race on a track that is 10x15m, buggies, (10.5 with minipins) mardaves and touring (13.5 foam).

the carpet is getting thin now, but is far from being new.

The track is very high grip... :confused::confused:

the winner of the A last night (touring) also had his car setup so well that no amount of power would see it understeer, or the back end come round.

[Welshy40]

Additive sucks. Mini pins is the way to go for buggies.

[_JP_]

I've heard that Schumacher *are* going to release slick tyres.

Are they using the old minispike moulds LOL :p