B44 to S4

[racingdwarf]

Hi all

Can you use the b44 as a base for the S4 Kit:confused:.

[matdodd]

At the min no! but maybe soon ;)

[autoxvw]

I have a s4 and bought a b44 as well to do just this. The only thing I see needs to be done is with the slipper and the slipper mount. the rear slipper mount has a wider stance than the s4/bj4 does so it looks to me that new holes would need to be made. Im not sure if the slipper will fit as well. Could possibly rub on the 2 forward cells (as per johnathan @ atomic) I did change over the rear hubs and cva's, the front hubs, spindles and cva's and the diff outdrives.

[barnyard]

Wouldn't the rear of the chassis need moddding to fit the plastic rear bulkhead thingy?

also putting the rear plastic thing on would possibly have too much flex meaning a rear top-deck would be needed.

[RogerM]

My guess is Jonathon has been thinking about all this from the very first press release of the B44. He seems a very capable designer, sure he'll have it all covered.

[c0sie]

It would be great if Jonathon did convert a B44 to S4.
The S4 is THE SEX in my humble opinion lol :D

[Wraggy]

It would be great if Jonathon did convert a B44 to S4.

Patience is a virtue :rolleyes:

[_JP_]

Patience is a virtue :rolleyes:

do you know somthing we don't LOL

[Mike Hudson]

will be interesting to see how it would perform compared to a bj4-s4 conversion

[barnyard]

i cant see how there would be much difference between the 2 essentially the geometry is identical with some of the parts now made from plastic rather than alloy.
There may be some reliability issues due to the material changes but we will know this from the breakages the b44 suffers in the hands of numpties rather than those who can drive.

i guess JC is already looking into using the b44 as a base as this would be a much more economically friendly way to become an S4 owner + i like the idea of being able to swop the rear arm holder when it wears out rather than needing a new chassis.

my only concern is the new slipper might have the same flaw as some diffs where if they are run backwards they undo themselves, this would mean new slipper shaft & nut with thread reversed, new center driveshafts at different lengths or if we're lucky there is space to add a 2nd adjustment nut to lock onto the main one.

[Northy]

I hope we see the S2 first....... ;)

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[barnyard]

TBH i think that will be JC's first priority then he might think about a new 4wd conversion

[tyreman]

I saw it on Sunday, it was covered in Craigs drool

[GRIFF55]

Be fair Bri, it is a work of art!!

[David Church]

Yep the new S-2 looks very sweet!!!!!!!!!!!! Can't wait to get mine:D

[Northy]

Me either..... it looks the dogs.... :D

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[matdodd]

I cant wait to :D

[Mike Hudson]

they look awsome but how well do they drive?

[Benh]

I was at the Newbury meet. All I will say is that I wouldn't go adjusting the S4 to fit a B44 just yet.

[Northy]

Eh?

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[Wraggy]

I was at the Newbury meet. All I will say is that I wouldn't go adjusting the S4 to fit a B44 just yet.

i think you might find its the other way round people are talking about ..
b44 in to an S4 as the BJ4 was made into an S4

[Lee]

I was at the Newbury meet. All I will say is that I wouldn't go adjusting the S4 to fit a B44 just yet.


why?

[PaulRotheram]

shh...

[grindog]

Hi, does anyone know when the S44 will be available to joe public? i think i need one of these

thanks, john

[Wonderflupke]

Here are some pictures :wub :

http://images2.imagehotel.info/bxvquyka7o.jpg (http://www.imagehotel.net/?from=bxvquyka7o.jpg)

http://images2.imagehotel.info/jfp3fsr6ac.jpg (http://www.imagehotel.net/?from=jfp3fsr6ac.jpg)

http://images2.imagehotel.info/qbaa2rqtes.jpg (http://www.imagehotel.net/?from=qbaa2rqtes.jpg)

http://images2.imagehotel.info/ia20caqm6b.jpg (http://www.imagehotel.net/?from=ia20caqm6b.jpg)

[Chris Doughty]

Hi, does anyone know when the S44 will be available to joe public? i think i need one of these

thanks, john


there is not really such a thing as the S44.

its simply a set of option parts for the B44.

[jimmy]

politics! ;)

[Wraggy]

there is not really such a thing as the S44.

its simply a set of option parts for the B44.

Nicely put Chris :thumbsup:

[Chris Doughty]

the B44 that I will be running has a much more in common with a stock B44 than my S4 did to a BJ4.

the atomic-carbon parts add a different electrics layout and steering assembly, thats all, everything else can be setup like a stock B44, we do have extra mounting holes in the shock positions but we retain all the stock mounting points.

[jimmy]

Do you run the AE shocks on the B44-Atomic'd or Losi?

[Mike Hudson]

Would the chassis feel much different? I'm sticking to my B44 unless I have ago with one and feel much better wih one.

[Chris Doughty]

AE shocks

the chassis would feel very different to a stock B44, a lot more weight forwards. lots of power on steering, it has a high resposnse steering setup too.

if you like steering then you will like the chassis setup.

[Wraggy]

too.

if you like steering then you will like the chassis setup.


Chris how does it comapre to the S4 for steering ??

[Chris Doughty]

same geometry, you wont feel much difference from weight placement and steering geometry to the S4

[Daniel T]

Is there any pictures of the body yet?
And also the S2 body?

[Chris Doughty]

I have just seen pictures of my shell sprayed up by Dragon Paints.... its amazing!

[Daniel T]

Show us!

[Body Paint]

Do you run the AE shocks on the B44-Atomic'd or Losi?

Some team drivers will be running the Losi shocks ;) There are provisions to run the shocks on the rear of the wishbones like on the S4 aswell, this is how JC ran his at Newbury.

Oh, and I've not even seen the Atomic B44 shell yet, tho I should be getting mine Sunday :D