View Full Version : Which Pinions
hickston
26-12-2007, 09:38 PM
What make of pinions do people use and why.
Are there benefits to using ally over steel (weight obviously, what about noise and wear???)
RogerM
26-12-2007, 09:46 PM
I use the one DC Racing have in stock at the time I order them ... LOL
Ali pinions are great in the short term however they do tend to wear quickly. Steel last longer but heavier.
With modern motors I belive that the difference between an ali and steel pinion is not an issue, sure somebody will disagree though!
ianplimmer
26-12-2007, 11:19 PM
having a heavier pinion is better than no pinion at all :D:D:D
josh_smaxx
26-12-2007, 11:21 PM
I once got a titanium one when thats all the shop had in, same price as normal ones aswell.
And what did it wear like is it noisy is it light heavy?
lil ben
GRIFF55
26-12-2007, 11:24 PM
I use the tamiya ones that come in pairs. Very good quality and nice and quiet too!!!
telboy
26-12-2007, 11:30 PM
i've found that the tamiya corse pitch ones wear badly. But the fine pitch one are fine.
Edit are making some EXTREMELY light weight ones, they're highly recomended, not sure on availability yet though. Sure Adam can hrow some light on that side of things. ;)
AmiSMB
26-12-2007, 11:31 PM
I like the RW Racing pinions and have used them for years, have even got some SRM Racing gears which was their previous name.
ashleyb4
26-12-2007, 11:39 PM
I use rw racing ones
A
PaulRotheram
27-12-2007, 12:49 AM
I think i use the Rw ones also.. to be fair, I bought pinions when I started.. and i'm still using the same ones now, that's a good near 8 years now.. and i've never found a need to renew them.
sosidge
27-12-2007, 10:50 AM
My RW ones have proven very hard wearing, I had them 20-odd years ago (think they were under a different name then, SRM or something?) and also currently.
The quietest pinions I have are the Kawada ones.
The only ones I would not recommend are the plastic pinions made by one of the american manufacturers, they wear like crazy and have an oversized boss too.
super__dan
27-12-2007, 12:03 PM
I use RW too from Castle models. When I got my brushless and knew I was never going to use anything over a 23 again I bought all new from 15 to 23 even though I had them all already, I really felt I was splashing out too :)
But I've lost one by lending it to someone and them not giving it back, anyone going to own up?
xx4-nutter
27-12-2007, 12:24 PM
i use them too the ones from peter. they sell them at our local model shop too
Chrislong
27-12-2007, 04:04 PM
I want to replace all mine. I currently have a variety of brands, some of which have mullered grub screws, some of which won't interchange grub screws, and so on.. I had a pinion fall off for the first time in years last weekend.
I am interested in the Edit brand, wonder if Adam can throw some light on it for us? I get the impression that there stuff is made to the highest quality.
Chris
paulc
27-12-2007, 04:09 PM
i use them too the ones from peter. they sell them at our local model shop too
pete is our local model shop garry :D
paulc
27-12-2007, 04:17 PM
i've being using losi pinions and rw ones i do think the rw ones are better car seems to run quiter with the rw ones on :confused:
paul :)
Northy
27-12-2007, 04:19 PM
I know where you can get new grub screws ;)
G
Lindsay
27-12-2007, 04:47 PM
Chris.
Adam [ and few others drivers] as been using the Edit brand for a few meetings and so far we have had no wear problems. I like the through mounting which means that if the thread wears in the Pinion you can mount with the screw in the other side. I beleave they will be available in the New Year. They will be in use at Worksop on the 6th.
Lindsay. :):)
niggs98
27-12-2007, 06:07 PM
i have run the rw pinions for years and like others still have some srm ones as well :O. althought the idea of the edit ones being able to use the other side when they finally strip out will have me trying them ;)
telboy
28-12-2007, 08:16 PM
Yup, me too.;)
bigred5765
28-12-2007, 09:34 PM
Losi true pitch got em last year seem OK
but i have some rw ones, from when i raced 10-12 years ago
all still OK
ish, odd grub screw missing
Adam Skelding
02-01-2008, 11:17 AM
i've found that the tamiya corse pitch ones wear badly. But the fine pitch one are fine.
Edit are making some EXTREMELY light weight ones, they're highly recomended, not sure on availability yet though. Sure Adam can hrow some light on that side of things. ;)
These should be out in the next month or so....
They've been designed with the following in mind:
Minimum Noise
Minimum Mass
Minimum Wear
Maximum contact area.
Minimum Cost!!!!
Jimmy has pictures of these pinions.
They are about 65-70% lighter than a standard pinion..
To give you an idea the 19T is 1.2g!!:D
ashleyb4
02-01-2008, 01:22 PM
That sounds intersting so what material are they made of how have you reduced the weight are they as strong as a normal pionoin???? Come on jimmy get them pics up.
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Northy
02-01-2008, 01:25 PM
.......and if you could just supply us with some CAD drawings too Adam that would be super! :p:p:p:p:p:p
G
im definatley likin the idea of these edit pinions. Do they have two grub screw holes?
lil ben
GRIFF55
02-01-2008, 01:35 PM
Can you let us know the part no's when they're out Adam??
Cheers
Adam Skelding
02-01-2008, 01:52 PM
.......and if you could just supply us with some CAD drawings too Adam that would be super! :p:p:p:p:p:p
G
Sure!!! :D
Material = Unobtanium
Part Numbers : ED200XX0
Substitue XX with the number of teeth you require.
Yes, they do have 2 grub screw holes... The weight of a hole is closer to the weight of a grub screw in a hole than the solid material... Better balance.
mattym0310
02-01-2008, 01:59 PM
those edit pinions sound awesome, any idea on cost?
i see. Who would of thought a pinion could be engineered so much lol
lil ben
Adam Skelding
02-01-2008, 02:04 PM
£3.99 RRP
ashleyb4
02-01-2008, 02:06 PM
cool
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mattym0310
02-01-2008, 02:11 PM
cool, might have to be gettin some, could do with some new'ns
Ill be getting em :D:D:D:D:D:D
What sizes are their.
lil ben
Mike Hudson
02-01-2008, 04:26 PM
All the popular sizes most likely
Chrislong
02-01-2008, 04:40 PM
Put my name down for 1 of each 15 through to 25 please.... (Adam: would you be able to give us a nod which/when shops have them please?)
hickston
02-01-2008, 04:55 PM
Material = Unobtanium
Unobtainium is a humorous colloquialism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colloquialism) that refers to any extremely rare, costly, or physically impossible material (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Material_science) needed to fulfill a given design for a given application. The name is not a portmanteau (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portmanteau) but it is derived from unobtainable (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/unobtainable) + ium (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=-ium&action=edit) (the suffix for a number of elements (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Element)). Variations include unobtanium and unattainium, with the same meaning.
The properties of any particular "unobtainium" depend on the intended use. For example, a pulley made of unobtainium might be massless and frictionless (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction). However, if used in a nuclear rocket, unobtainium would be light, strong at high temperatures, and resistant to radiation damage.
Must be good stuff then :D
mattym0310
02-01-2008, 05:12 PM
wtf? :eh?: [just about somes that one up i think :D lol]
Anyways back on subject. Will their be a pinion as big as a 29?
lil ben
mattym0310
02-01-2008, 06:16 PM
for ya 540 car ben?
mattym0310
02-01-2008, 06:20 PM
i thought ya used a 30 atmo
Matt stop trying to get ur post count up
mattym0310
02-01-2008, 06:23 PM
:o:D:p;)
how can you say that ben? lol.
AndyM
02-01-2008, 06:26 PM
i think a ban is in order. :D
mattym0310
02-01-2008, 06:27 PM
your making it too obvious ben :D anyways back on subject guys.
mattym0310
02-01-2008, 06:34 PM
DO IT! he deserves it :D:p;)
only kiddin
i dont want to be banned.
mattym0310
02-01-2008, 06:37 PM
okay ben, i think your annoying people now. lol
Adam Skelding
02-01-2008, 11:28 PM
Pinion sizes are 15-30 Inclusive...
Should pretty much cover all the motor / car combinations.
I've no doubt someone will want a 14 and a 31!!!!:D
AndyM
02-01-2008, 11:34 PM
sounds great, i'll be buying some :D
telboy
03-01-2008, 12:07 AM
I've no doubt someone will want a 14 and a 31!!!!:D
You can't please all the people all of the time Adam.:rolleyes:
Hmm but right you will be, hmm.
Mike Hudson
03-01-2008, 12:16 AM
They'll just have to go elsewhere for their odd sized pinions :p sound good though ill be investing in a few :D
mattym0310
03-01-2008, 12:26 AM
as will i :)
Cockerill
03-01-2008, 12:34 PM
Pinion sizes are 15-30 Inclusive...
Should pretty much cover all the motor / car combinations.
I've no doubt someone will want a 14 and a 31!!!!:D
I've been known to run a 13 on the xx4 so one of them would be great :D
Adam Skelding
03-01-2008, 01:03 PM
I've been known to run a 13 on the xx4 so one of them would be great :D
That's why your car is soooooooo slow!
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
Muhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahha
nobby
03-01-2008, 02:19 PM
can you get them in 64dp?
jimmy
03-01-2008, 09:06 PM
meant to post this a few days ago, oops.. in fact, I meant to post it in a race report.. nevermind :p
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/editpinions.jpg
Lindsay
03-01-2008, 09:49 PM
meant to post this a few days ago, oops.. in fact, I meant to post it in a race report.. nevermind :p
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/editpinions.jpg
Jimmy
Did you not Photo Grub Scew Hole
What did you do with the Race Report??
Lindsay;);)
ashleyb4
04-01-2008, 01:21 PM
will we see and edit pinion holder to match????
A
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