Atomic Carbon spy shots - 06jan2008

[jimmy]

Here are a couple of shots I got of the new 2008 cars from Atomic Carbon - they look somewhat fantastic, with plenty of custom made parts and both cars feature awesome carbon fibre tub chassis.

The S2 has been around all year in various guises, gradually evolving until a layout that worked was arrived at. This, the pre-production car, is a work of art - losing any rough edges the prototypes might have had and with a swish new carbon laminate tub chassis specially made for this car. A new 4-gear gearbox and cell layout distinguish this car from the prototypes. The car should be available as an conversion for the popular RC10B4 from Associated.

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/oople-acs201.jpg

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/oople-acs202.jpg

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/oople-acs203.jpg





The new 4WD buggy - yet to be named, but let's call it the 'S4 2008', is a revised and once more tidied up version of the car that took third overall in the UK BRCA championship series, in the hands of Chris Doughty.
Jonathan was 'slightly' (very) reluctant to let me take any photos of this car, but suffice to say it features all the latest parts from the Team Associated camp, with new steering designed by Chris Doughty.

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/oople-acs401.jpg



For more information, contact Atomic Carbon - www.atomic-carbon.co.uk (http://www.atomic-carbon.co.uk)

[c0sie]

*dribble*
*drool*

:)

[jimmy]

exactly! haha
very nice indeed, not seen either of the new cars before - very impressive.

I'm treated like paparazzi scum, so I am - but without the fringe benefits of fame and fortune. :(

[rcracer]

what a tease :(

[c0sie]

My fingers have touched the new S44/S4 2008...I feel all special now! LOL

I would dig out my own kidney with a plastic spoon for that car and the new S2.....

gross..but true lol

[rcracer]

My fingers have touched the new S44/S4 2008...I feel all special now! LOL

I would dig out my own kidney with a plastic spoon for that car and the new S2.....

gross..but true lol

Let me know if it hurts Cris and i'll do the same :wtf:

[telboy]

Of corse it'll hurt......but with pain there's always pleasure.....




.....apparently.:eh?:

[Andy Moore]

Wow, AC does the SICKEST looking stuff. I just wish they would make a few more things for cars I run, haha.:p

[Thomas P]

Wow..finaly it is close :D.cant wait to get mine when it wil be availble..the S4 talk, makes me curious...

[redscott]

i just may have to start running 2wd and get a b44 to test the difference.
very much appreciated jimmy:o

[OldTimer]

I'm treated like paparazzi scum, so I am - but without the fringe benefits of fame and fortune. :(

We love you really Jimmy ;)

[Lee Martin]

good work!!!!! looked the the 2wd chassis before....loving the CF

[_JP_]

old news :)
saw it weeks ago :D

JC had something else in the boot but was kept secret, looks like the secret is out now hehe!

[Bathy]

I'm treated like paparazzi scum, so I am - but without the fringe benefits of fame and fortune. :(

Play your cards right Jimmy you could find yourself with Britney!!! :D

Car looks ace btw, lovin the carbon fibre tub chassis.

[JohnM]

Oh bugger, and there was me telling the wife that after some new cells, tyres etc, my spending was done, looks like the credit card will be getting used again:D

Any idea when the S44 bits will be released?

[Body Paint]

I recognise that car :D

We do love you Jimmy, honest we do.

[David Church]

Both cars look great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

[losidan]

ssssoooo nice

[Mike Hudson]

Very niiice how much? that s4 looks like it has b44 parts on it :wtf:

[Chris Doughty]

Jimmy the pap has got it wrong, its not an S4 2008.

its a B44 with the atomic-carbon option chassis on it

[SHY]

Any pics of the S2 shell?

[Wraggy]

Jimmy the pap has got it wrong, its not an S4 2008.

its a B44 with the atomic-carbon option chassis on it
Chris you've spoilt it now.. you could of lead them down the garden path a bit ;);):D

[SHY]

Jimmy the pap has got it wrong, its not an S4 2008.

its a B44 with the atomic-carbon option chassis on it

Shit! That's gonna sell well!!! :rolleyes:

[jimmy]

Jimmy the pap has got it wrong, its not an S4 2008.

its a B44 with the atomic-carbon option chassis on it

haha, I did say 'lets call it' - lucky to get a upturned shot with a two fingered salute! :D

But if were giving details, the chassis kit is made as an upgrade for the B44 and includes custom carbon fibre steering (unlike the corally steering on the S4), new shock towers - indeed nothing looks like it's from the S4 (or BJ4we).
The car in the photo is Jonathans prototype, using carbon & blue kevlar-type material(?) production chassis will be pure carbon fibre.

The production S2 body isn't produced yet

[Mike Hudson]

It certainly will! So many people are running the b44 this year including me, an S44 conversion will be exetremely popular if/when it becomes available to the public

[SHY]

Will there be only the "S4 conversion" chassis for the B44 (i.e. with the 4-2 layout of cells) or will there also be a mere "carbon tub conversion" for the B44? I think the latter would be a huge success as to sales. The whole S4 conversion is a bit pricy for many. Why not just get rid of that lexan undertray...

[Chris Doughty]

these little teasers might answer a few questions

http://www.doughtyuk.net/images/B44s-1.jpg
http://www.doughtyuk.net/images/B44s-2.jpg

these little images are early proto parts, there are still things to be adjusted and tuned.

[Lee]

Is that your car chris?

No-vak?:confused:

[Chris Doughty]

not mine... there is only 1 chassis been made so far and Mr Atomic owns that.

im still blue

[Wraggy]

Is that your car chris?

No-vak?:confused:
Jonathans i would of thought as i think he has the only prototype version .

[Wraggy]

not mine... there is only 1 chassis been made so far and Mr Atomic owns that.

im still blue
damn .. to quick for me then Chris ;)

[Wonderflupke]

Does it use the same body as the original S4 (BJ4 based)???

[mattym0310]

they both look amazing! bit pricey though i guess

[jimmy]

these little teasers might answer a few questions

http://www.doughtyuk.net/images/B44s-1.jpg
http://www.doughtyuk.net/images/B44s-2.jpg

these little images are early proto parts, there are still things to be adjusted and tuned.


I've been 'out papped' :( sigh

[OldTimer]

Any pics of the S2 shell?

1st S2 shells should be pulled next week, once we have one painted up i will post some photos, but it does look very nice :D

@ Jimmy not bad for a 400D lol.

[Thomas P]

Jonathan, the car looks amaizing!!! Hmm, maybe i must buy one to =)

[OldTimer]

they both look amazing! bit pricey though i guess

I don't have 100% firm prices just yet, as i still waiting for some costs, but i have put some prices below to give people a rough idea. Again these are only a guide.

B4 2wd upgrade kit - approx £240.00

B44 4wd upgrade kit excludes shock towers - approx £199.00
B44 4wd upgrade kit includes 4mm shock towers - approx £220.00

Expected date when available - April onwards hopefully for both cars, if all our testing goes to plan, but again this date could change.

Hope the above helps :)

[Thomas P]

Decent prices..

[Chris Doughty]

Does it use the same body as the original S4 (BJ4 based)???

the S4 body would proberbly fit. but there will be a new body specifically for this chassis.

[fastr]

Car looks great!!!
The 3D drawings were usefull than????

[Mike Hudson]

Wow i really really like that b44 conversion, i want one now, great price aswell :) Any rough guesses of when the real version of it will be released:confused:

[matdodd]

I don't have 100% firm prices just yet, as i still waiting for some costs, but i have put some prices below to give people a rough idea. Again these are only a guide.

B4 2wd upgrade kit - approx £240.00

B44 4wd upgrade kit excludes shock towers - approx £199.00
B44 4wd upgrade kit includes 4mm shock towers - approx £220.00

Expected date when available - April onwards hopefully for both cars, if all our testing goes to plan, but again this date could change.

Hope the above helps :)


From the man him self :D

[Mike Hudson]

Oooo i didn't see the date thanks :) if they are out in april i will be soooo tempted to get the b44 conversion i don't know what will possibly stop me even if i don't want to spend the money it just looks too good! :p

[matdodd]

Your right I think there will be quite a few about this year

[autoxvw]

I own a s4 (1 of 2 in the states) and I love it but the s44 looks the way to go. Same with the s2. I run a x-6 and I like it but the s2 as well as the s4 and s44 are all works of art in my opinion. I just wish the exchange rate was not so against us on this side of the pond. 240pounds is about $470!!!:o:(:mad: I will be getting both cars when available but I might have to get the wife dressed all sexy like and take her downtown to a busy street corner to work up some funds for my r/c collection:D Does anyone know any way around how poor the $ is to the pound? Any tricks to playing the system of currency exchange?:D

[redscott]

I own a s4 (1 of 2 in the states) and I love it but the s44 looks the way to go. Same with the s2. I run a x-6 and I like it but the s2 as well as the s4 and s44 are all works of art in my opinion. I just wish the exchange rate was not so against us on this side of the pond. 240pounds is about $470!!!:o:(:mad: I will be getting both cars when available but I might have to get the wife dressed all sexy like and take her downtown to a busy street corner to work up some funds for my r/c collection:D Does anyone know any way around how poor the $ is to the pound? Any tricks to playing the system of currency exchange?:D

AMEN! i cant express it any batter. im the 2nd of 2 that run the s4 in the states. the s2 is making me want to run 2wd. oldtimer stuff is all works of art and in my opinion in a class by itself. but damn that exchange rate. rotflmao:);)

[RogerM]

LOL ..... try living here .... most of our racing stuff is the same price in £s as you guys pay in $ and road fuel to get to meetings is about $10-$10.5 a gallon :o

Back on topic

I have to say that everything I have seen of Jonathan's is super quality and very well thought out from an engineering prospective. The price your paying isn't bad either when you consider the lower volume potential and the cost of tooling up for a tub chassis etc.

[Lee]

Yeah it looks very smart, good job done by all!!


Please dont whine about exchange rates, it cost me $30 to fill up our hire car in the states and 82 quid to fill my 406 last week:o i nearly cried:(

[Chris Doughty]

a few more pictures and some vague details ( :rolleyes: :D ) up on http://www.doughtyuk.net/ front page

[redscott]

Yeah it looks very smart, good job done by all!!


Please dont whine about exchange rates, it cost me $30 to fill up our hire car in the states and 82 quid to fill my 406 last week:o i nearly cried:(

nuff said. lol. will there be a waiting list

[SHY]

B44 4wd upgrade kit excludes shock towers - approx £199.00
B44 4wd upgrade kit includes 4mm shock towers - approx £220.00


This is with or without an S4 shell? (couldn't find the "old" prices for the S4 conversion)

Will the std. B44 shell fit this new chassis? Is the A-C chassis the same outline?

How is that thick carbon chassis as to weight? Is that partly why the top deck is removed?

How about making a standard B44 tub? With the std. battery layout? (Not enough room?)

Fantastic craftmanship btw! :D

[Chris Doughty]

I believe the price includes the shell

the stock B44 might fit if you use a 'short' servo, I don't think this has been tested though. it would also be wider than the chassis.

I believe the chassis is 3mm thick, the walls of the tub give the chassis the strenth so that no top-deck is required.

the Tub mould would not fit a stock B44 battery layout (the chassis is not wide enough).

I am not sure the investment for a tub mould for a stock B44 chassis but in a tub would be worth it. I could be wrong though.

[matt]

Chris this may be me being dumb but is this the car you will be running this year:wtf:.

[JohnM]

I am not sure the investment for a tub mould for a stock B44 chassis but in a tub would be worth it. I could be wrong though.

I can't say if the investment would be worth it, but I think I'd prefer a stock B44 lay-out tub chassis over a slim one, as I need to be able to fit the cells in my Yok BX, read too many things about B44s breaking not to have a back-up car:)

[ashleyb4]

Questiona for jonathan or any of the atomic carbon team who may know how do you cut your carbon fibre what do you use??? Im doing my own little project and i need to cut some but im not sureof the best way to cut it???????? Any help aprecaiated.


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[Lee]

Ash you can use a cutting disc on a dremel it works well, but beware of the carbon dust its dodgy stuff

[PaulRotheram]

Best advice.. dont cut carbon on your own.. ever, it isnt worth it, the crap that comes out of it gets in to your lungs and dosnt remove its self!

Jonathan sends off for his parts to be specially made cut rebated or moulded.

[ashleyb4]

I could do it at college and use the dest exstractors.

Does anyone know of anywhere that will make me a chassis and a few other parts for a small fee.

A

[Gaz_Stanton]

Best advice.. dont cut carbon on your own.. ever, it isnt worth it, the crap that comes out of it gets in to your lungs and dosnt remove its self!

I'll second that! Evil stuff the carbon dust.

Ash, if the carbon you're using is any good you'll need diamond blades & alot of them. Make sure you factor this into the cost. Best advice would be to not go there.

On second thoughts, cutting your carbon chassis could help remove some of those fingers otherwise used for typing pages of irrelevant crap... :rolleyes: :p

[c0sie]

If your using CF, then the fee wont be small Ash.
CF knackers cutting bits etc as far as I know..Tis expensive :(

[David Church]

I could do it at college and use the dest exstractors.

Does anyone know of anywhere that will make me a chassis and a few other parts for a small fee.

A


Fibre Lyte is good for carbon stuff. 01642 713129

[ashleyb4]

ive sanded carbon fibre before using a sanding drum but never cut it Im sure i would use a a series of files, dremel, saw's and hammers to cut its only gonig to be small so souldnt take me to long and its only thin material.

thanks for that dave ill get in contact.

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[jimmy]

sanding drum is even worse ash, it gets in your lungs and all over your skin and you'll go mental and stop being able to spell....... oh, hang on.

[ashleyb4]

I used a dust mask and a pair of gogles. The other option would be to cut it out of GRP then glue a thin layer of carbon fibre on each side so like a carbon fibre GRP sandwich.

A

[Northy]

For what reason....

[ashleyb4]

??????????????

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[HVAC25000]

Best advice.. dont cut carbon on your own.. ever, it isnt worth it, the crap that comes out of it gets in to your lungs and dosnt remove its self!

Jonathan sends off for his parts to be specially made cut rebated or moulded.


If that's true, then me and everyone in my rocketry club are dead.

Fibreglass is way more dangerous than carbon fibre. Fibreglass leaves GLASS in your lungs, carbon fibre just leaves carbon, which your body is made of anyways :D Carbon fibre dust is no different than charcoal, and guys spend their whole lives in coal mines, breathing the stuff for 12 hours a day, before they get black lung at 40-50. An hour of carbon dust isn't going to make any difference when you spend all day breathing car exhaust full of all kinds of carcinogens.

A breather (respirator used when painting cars) and a vacuum will save you from all the evil carbon dust. And the stuff cuts very easily with a hack saw or band saw.

[Gaz_Stanton]

carbon fibre just leaves carbon, which your body is made of anyways :D

And fumes from the burning resin. Not good.

[Tom3012]

when i made my mid motor car, i cut the carbon with a dremel type tool and many many circlular discs!!! the dust went everywhere but i had a mask and goggles on.... ive not lost the plot yet either!!!:)

[ashleyb4]

I think ill just use a hacksaw and a coping saw then cut it out leaving say a mm off where i want ti then simply sand it to the required line.

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[Tom3012]

what are you making anyway ash? or is it top secret? :p

[ashleyb4]

Super Dupa Wopa top secret. cus cut a piece of carbon fibre i had and my hack saw cutts it well easy.

A

[David Church]

sanding drum is even worse ash, it gets in your lungs and all over your skin and you'll go mental and stop being able to spell....... oh, hang on.


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