will a b3 beat a b4

[danny the elfman]

hey, i just to ask if an associated b3 could ever compete with the more modern cars like the b4 if tuned correctly?

[Moozo]

I Think you should edit your title!!!:p

[danny the elfman]

lol, whoops, done it now

[mark christopher]

depends who is driving em me with the b4 and cragg with a b3 is a no brainer

[Dudders]

depends who is driving em me with the b4 and cragg with a b3 is a no brainer

Cragg would win? :woot:

[mark christopher]

:blush: unfortunatly yes :woot:

[Col]

Everyone on the site (with the exception of Welshy40) will agree the B4 is the better car.
You driving the B4 should beat you driving the B3.

[Welshy40]

If you set it up correctly and add a B4 layshaft and slipper plates and pads plus 81t spur for B4 then yes with ease. Only problem with this car is they didnt design the car with long enough Ujs so you cant raise it too high so causes problems on big jumps.

[Welshy40]

Everyone on the site (with the exception of Welshy40) will agree the B4 is the better car.
You driving the B4 should beat you driving the B3.

There are a lot of people who say the same, its not easy to dial and the older associated cars are much easier to set up and more fun to drive. Unsure on the new car though but wont be buying it.

[Col]

There are a lot of people who say the same

No-one I've ever spoken to!

[Chrislong]

Its just you Welshbo.

Why would anybody design a car to be harder to setup, slower, less fun? They wouldn't.

When the B3 was the current car, 2wd majority was Losi XXX. Then when the B4 came out, it quickly became the majority - and Losi XXX and the BK2 which then came out was left behind. Why do you think this happened? It was because the B4 was significantly better than any other 2wd car and I reckon still is.

[Si Coe]

Its just you Welshbo.

Why would anybody design a car to be harder to setup, slower, less fun? They wouldn't.
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XXX4? Better in the US, but not here.

I'm currently playing with an RC10 much older than a B4 - a team car from 1990. And in Trucks I run a similar vintage RC10T.
Both may be old, but can keep up just fine. The people that beat me I couldn't beat with a brand new X6, the people I beat wouldn't beat me whatever I drove.
They may be a little slower, but not enough that the driver isn't much more important.

Interestingly though I really didn't like my B4 when I had one. I gave up on 2wd after owning a B4, but running an RC10 has really brought the fun back.

[Welshy40]

Have a look on the thread whats the worst car youve driven. Quite a few guys mention the B4.

[Dudders]

Anyway, when was the last time you raced the B3 outdoors :p:p:p

[Welshy40]

2000 would be the last time. I may pop down one day mate to give your track a go but need to find longer ujs or longer drive cups so i can get more ground clearance.

[Dudders]

2000 would be the last time.

Bejesus! :o:o:o:o

Just drag that raggy arse down and er, drag the raggy arse of the car!. Many run them low ;)

[dodgydiy]

have to say the b3 is a much more forgiving car to drive, much easier to set up and drive than the b4 is, b4 is much more edgy and when setup right is very fast. i bet if you gave a decent club driver both cars to drive, with the same kit inside them they would say the b4 is faster and set a better time with the b3. b2 with a later b3 shock tower on the back went very well too

[Welshy40]

Bejesus! :o:o:o:o

Just drag that raggy arse down and er, drag the raggy arse of the car!. Many run them low ;)

Problem is i want more height so need to work out how to get 2 or 3mm more length on my ujs. Will be fun working it out after ive finished working on my 4wd.

Dodgydiy

Try putting a B4 layshaft, slipper plates and spur and its much quicker than the original slipper.

[Col]

Have a look on the thread whats the worst car youve driven. Quite a few guys mention the B4.

After an admittedly brief scan through that thread (you owe me 6 minutes of my life back, BTW...) I found 4 B4 haters and 3 B3 haters

[mattb]

There was i guy at bury metro last week who he said used to be a national A finalist around 1994,he had a b3 with brushed system and nimh cells and was beating everone in 2wd:woot:

[RogerM]

Everyone on the site (with the exception of Welshy40) will agree the B4 is the better car.
You driving the B4 should beat you driving the B3.

Actually I was always significantly faster with my B3 than my B4 ... B4 just doesn't suit some people, not a bad car but not a universal one either

[danny the elfman]

thanks for the replies, why will a b4 layshaft help

[Welshy40]

thanks for the replies, why will a b4 layshaft help

The gear is the same size as the B3 but the B3 slipper cant handle the power from the brushless motor when accelarating so using the B4 part you can fit the slipper system as well and give much more control of the slipper and zero burnouts of the clutch pads.

[dodgydiy]

the b4 slipper does work better than the b3 one and is definately something to change if you want to race a b3 now, as welshy says, the single pad b3 slipper cant handle the power like the 2 pad b4 one can. in the end though it is all down to how you like your car, if you like it edgy and responsive you want a b4, if you like it comfortable and predictable then the b3 will work for you. my home done mid engine b4 handles very much like the b3, but with lots more overall grip which is a good result for me

[Nick Goodall]

There was i guy at bury metro last week who he said used to be a national A finalist around 1994,he had a b3 with brushed system and nimh cells and was beating everone in 2wd:woot:

Any idea who it was?? I expect a lot of us will know him!

[mattb]

Any idea who it was?? I expect a lot of us will know him!no mate all he said,is that hed stoped racing to take up snooker,got to a 135 break realised he wasent going to get any better and started racing again,he was about to go out and buy all the latest gear so ill ask his name next time he comes!!