JM08 Stealth Chassis for TLR22

[cwp]

Yes, the rumors are true!* We have an all new chassis for the Losi 22.

Link http://www.rossmod.co.uk/product/37132/JM08_Stealth_Chassis_for_TLR22

Specs :-

10mm shorter than original Losi chassis
Made from T6 Alloy
Black Anodized finish
25 deg front Kick-up
On testing we have found the following benefits :-

Increased rear traction
Improved turn in
Improved Agility
5 deg Added front Kick-up gives a safer and more composed steering.
If you are running the smaller than standard Losi LiPo stick pack then no additional parts or modifications are required, it's a straight fit!

If you would like to run standard saddle LiPo's, no problem! Simply dremel out the internal part of the Losi side pods and mount the LiPo sideways, one in front of the other. For this you will also need a bodyshell*with more generous proportions such as the FTW Vain or similar.

The New "JM08 Stealth Chassis" is available now from Rossmod

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[DCM]

ordered mine!

[JoelMaher]

:thumbsup:

[cwp]

It will transform the car.
If you need any help just post on here.

[Robocop]

Whats the best way to hold saddles in
Will the proline bulldog fit
Does the rear brace fir the gearbox still fit?
Thanks

[cwp]

We have cut a small slot on the outer part on the plastic side pods, then extended the velcro straps to go round the battery.
I plan on taking a trip to B@Q to see if they do a longer Velcro strap.We might even sell them in the shop.
By the way the only extra part that you will need is 4 2mm plastic washer to fit under the servo mounts.
I'll take pictures tomorrow to show you.

I haven't seen the proline body as yet.
You keep the rear end as standard.

Mark

[JoelMaher]

we've cut a small slot in the motor bracket and used a peice of stainless steel, which is secured by two battery posts provision has been made in the chassis for these if used.25576

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[DCM]

got any bas setups for it yet?

[RDG 40]

We have cut a small slot on the outer part on the plastic side pods, then extended the velcro straps to go round the battery.
I plan on taking a trip to B@Q to see if they do a longer Velcro strap.We might even sell them in the shop.
By the way the only extra part that you will need is 4 2mm plastic washer to fit under the servo mounts.
I'll take pictures tomorrow to show you.

I haven't seen the proline body as yet.
You keep the rear end as standard.

Mark

pics would be good, i run saddles so to see the pics would be great, sounds a good option altho a new body would be extra cost due to body then painting etc. so would bump cost up.

Extra rear end would be fantastic

[JoelMaher]

O M G This car actually works

[Mugenextreme]

I see in the pics that you have the saddles side by side but it i just want the saddle pack to fit in like on the normal kit. Can they without any modification or do you need to modify the pods??

[JoelMaher]

re setups

at Oswestry national we ran 35 oil green springs front 30 oil yellow springs rear no additional weight other than the cream extreme rear weight. the car was supream.

[danDanEFC]

This chassis made the 22 much harder to catch around Southports track.

[JoelMaher]

you can run the small losi battery in the normal position but we havent tested saddles in the normal position on the new chassis yet

[JoelMaher]

That was Mk1
we have now evolved to the Mk2 STEALTH, by by see u in our dust

[RDG 40]

I see in the pics that you have the saddles side by side but it i just want the saddle pack to fit in like on the normal kit. Can they without any modification or do you need to modify the pods??

that would be better as then no new bodyshell would be needed

[Robocop]

That was Mk1
we have now evolved to the Mk2 STEALTH, by by see u in our dust

So is the one that ross mods have in stock mk 1 or mk 2 or is mk coming soon
Thanks

[cwp]

Ross mods have v2 in stock.

[JoelMaher]

MK2 IS the stealth, and is the only version available. exclusive to Rossmod.
These will not be available anywhere else

[mrspeedy]

Nice looking chassis ...

I'm a little confused tho .... what's the kickup on it ? I thought the stock 22 chassis was 25 degs ? but you say you have added 5 degs and still got 25 degs ? :eh?:

[fastinfastout]

how does a shorter chassis increase rear traction?

if anything, a shorter wheelbase will make it more nimble, that's the theory anyway

[cwp]

Nice looking chassis ...

I'm a little confused tho .... what's the kickup on it ? I thought the stock 22 chassis was 25 degs ? but you say you have added 5 degs and still got 25 degs ? :eh?:


It's a typo error it's suppose to mean with the 5deg caster blocks.
I'll let them know at the shop to change this.
Thanks for Pointing this out.

Mark

[cwp]

how does a shorter chassis increase rear traction?

if anything, a shorter wheelbase will make it more nimble, that's the theory anyway


I know what you mean this was our thoughts before we tested v1.
But the back end is a lot more planted than with the standard car.
I don't know where you live but if your at the bury regional this weekend then your welcome to try the car out this weekend.

Mark

[JoelMaher]

the std kit, kick up is more like 20 degrees.

[DCM]

No, 25' as the shim for 25' is parrallel, whereas the 20+30' is tapered.

[jkclifford]

Are the corner weights the same with this chassis, simple by shortening the chassis would not alter weight bias to settle the rear end, or does the different cell lay out more weight on the rear?

[cwp]

Are the corner weights the same with this chassis, simple by shortening the chassis would not alter weight bias to settle the rear end, or does the different cell lay out more weight on the rear?

I don't know to be honest.
We never had any side pod weight to try.
But what I can tell you is that it works.
Our sons that race the cars are just average F2 drivers and they were not happy with the 22 like every one that has one.So the v1 was made and it transformed the car.So a couple off tweaks where made then V2 was made.
So that's the story on how it was made.
We have the saddles across the chassie this is the way we run it.
I will be trying to get some pictures up tonight as I finished late last night.

[PaulUpton]

I don't know to be honest.
We never had any side pod weight to try.
But what I can tell you is that it works.
Our sons that race the cars are just average F2 drivers and they were not happy with the 22 like every one that has one.So the v1 was made and it transformed the car.So a couple off tweaks where made then V2 was made.
So that's the story on how it was made.
We have the saddles across the chassie this is the way we run it.
I will be trying to get some pictures up tonight as I finished late last night.

really, i dont think there is anything wrong with the kit chassis.

the conversions coming through are making the cars better (although i can only speak for the speartooth)

[cwp]

really, i dont think there is anything wrong with the kit chassis.

the conversions coming through are making the cars better (although i can only speak for the speartooth)


Maybe I worded it wrong English was never mi strong point.LOL

[DCM]

The shorter wheelbase allows the weight to be transferred more effectively.

Are other peoples chassis flat at the rear, or got the joggle in to raise the rear suspension holder and gearbox?

[cr1tch]

Got mine today:thumbsup:

[cwp]

The shorter wheelbase allows the weight to be transferred more effectively.

Are other peoples chassis flat at the rear, or got the joggle in to raise the rear suspension holder and gearbox?

There all flat at the back unlike the original.
Were running the 4deg LRC block with 1 deg antisqat.
And fit as normal.

[cr1tch]

mine is all built and ready to go!!!!:lol:

[JoelMaher]

let us know how you get on with it :thumbsup:

[DCM]

few little niggles that I will bring to RossMods attention.

[cr1tch]

Only issuie i had was the rear HRC block doest seem to sit flat & also had to mod the front part of the side gaurd by using a screw and bolt to hold it down and slightly mod the servo posts!:confused:

[jonathan may]

Do you still run the tlr mid motor weight or the cream weight with this chassis ?

[cwp]

Only issuie i had was the rear HRC block doest seem to sit flat & also had to mod the front part of the side gaurd by using a screw and bolt to hold it down and slightly mod the servo posts!:confused:

Did you put the 2mm washers under the servo post.
Plus as the 10 mm is taken from the front the sidepod fixing lugs do need fixing down with a nut and bolt. As there moved foward.
We use the LRC block, if your at the bury regional this weekend let us take a look.

[cwp]

Do you still run the tlr mid motor weight or the cream weight with this chassis ?

Some us the cream weight.
We use lead under the batteries.
We took the tlr weight off.

[jonathan may]

how much weight under the lipo ?

[cwp]

how much weight under the lipo ?

I think it's about 80g.

[TonyM]

I tried to order one today but they are out of stock at RossMod. Any idea when they will be back in stock?

[jonathan may]

they had 17 in stock when i got mine and then 0 within a few hours so a hot seller :thumbsup:

[Robocop]

Apart from the ftw shell what others fit?
Thanks

[jonathan may]

what wheelbase are you using with the stealth chassis

[cwp]

Apart from the ftw shell what others fit?
Thanks

If you run the saddles as standard you can use the standard shell.
If you run with the saddles across the chassis the shell needs to have high side pods.
At this moment in time we have only fitted the FTW so I can’t comment at this moment in time.
But I recon the Phat body will fit once its made.

[mrspeedy]

Just to confirm the Phat Bodies shell will fit even with lipos across the chassis :thumbsup:

[cwp]

what wheelbase are you using with the stealth chassis

We run the front whishbones forward And hubs forward
And we run the rear wishbone back and the hubs forward

[jonathan may]

We run the front whishbones forward And hubs forward
And we run the rear wishbone back and the hubs forward

do you modify the front whishbones to run them forward

[cwp]

do you modify the front whishbones to run them forward


Yes we filed 1mm of the front.
it's not a lot.

[DCM]

Well, gave mine a buzz this afternoon, and I am unsure whether it was the total strip down, diff rebuild, cut out the bladders in the shocks or the chassis that made it a lot better.

[jonathan may]

will have to wait a week to try mine :thumbdown:

[Robocop]

Anyone else had a go with there stealth chassis over the weekend,thoughts pros and cons etc.
Thanks

[madap1]

anyone know when these will be back in stock?

[jonathan may]

so do you recomend using the LRC blocks with the stealth chassis

[cwp]

anyone know when these will be back in stock?

They will be back in stock soon.

[cwp]

so do you recomend using the LRC blocks with the stealth chassis

Try both we just went with the lrc.

[DCM]

Well, the car felt a lot better to drive, still not being able to nail the throttle out of tight corners, but the problem is far less and need a little more steering please!

[jonathan may]

raced mine today and also need more steering.

[andys]

Well, the car felt a lot better to drive, still not being able to nail the throttle out of tight corners, but the problem is far less and need a little more steering please!

Hi. I know you have had issues with your 22, as have I.
Out of interest which speedo and which motor (and turn) are you running ?

I had a speed passion 6.5 in mine and it never liked the beans out of corners, gone to a 7.5 with a few mods ( cream weight, 110g brass under short lipo, soft rear suspension - White spring etc) and it's a doodle to get around now. Not quite as fast as I'd like, but I'm still playing with gearing and speedo settings.

[DCM]

I am being conservative at the moment, Tekin RS Pro and Redline 10.5 set to run in sensored, so performs close to a 7.5 but without the grunt.

[cwp]

What setup are you running.

[DCM]

front.

Long liknk, 1.5mm under inner ball stud, kit shock location
30wt, 6hole 55, kit spring, no diaphragm.

Rear
Kit suspension blocks, kit hub (3mm), short inner.
Inner on wishbone
35wt, 6 hole 54's, pink springs

[jonathan may]

i used 6 hole 55 pistons in the front today with 30w oil and was far to underdamped

[cwp]

Are you running the 20 deg wedge under the front
And the 3 deg caster block.
We only run the 4 hole pistons 32.5 in the front 25 in the back using the same size piston holes as you.
We also use the Lrs with 1 deg antisqwat because the chassis is flat at the rear you don't need the big wedges.
If your going to the Oople I'll be there.Come and have a chat.

[DCM]

Yes, changed to the wedged front block, 5' caster blocks to.

I don't like the feel of the 4 hole, makes the car feel dead, and does it work with the rear that soft? LRC, yeap, 1' shim (I think) 60g lead under battery.

Chassis needs to be flat to get the cells rotated and lower, may lost the motor guard and make a brace up to move weight further back.

[jonathan may]

why run the rear end so soft 6hole pistons and 25 oil i ran the same pistons and 30w oil and that was soft.

[cwp]

why run the rear end so soft 6hole pistons and 25 oil i ran the same pistons and 30w oil and that was soft.

We don't use 6 hole it 4 hole.

[Razer]

Just got mine, will be interesting. Is it possible that you can make one with the holes for rearmotor as well? I really, really want one for dirt racing, but I'm in lack of four holes or so. Could of course drill them myself, but it would be very nice to have one professionally done:)

[Robocop]

Had an email from ross mods about a newer chassis return mine for a newer one thought i had a v2 or is this a v3
Thanks

[cwp]

Had an email from ross mods about a newer chassis return mine for a newer one thought i had a v2 or is this a v3
Thanks

No it's still v2 with a harder anodising.

[jeepsmp]

Can u run this chassis in rear motor configuration

[vrooom]

Where can i get one from? Is it possible to get the shorter chassis with same amount of kick up in chassis?

[JJM844]

I would like one too.

[JoelMaher]

If anybody is else is also interested please PM me.

[Razer]

If someone pays postage, I have one to give away!