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antnee
25-01-2008, 11:03 PM
Had enough of my Losi xxx now, and after a new one.

What buggys are strong?

Pref 2wd, but may consider 4wd. Needs to be pretty competative too

RogerM
25-01-2008, 11:10 PM
Give the RB5 a go. A lot of people have said it jumps, rides the bumps and grips as well if not a little better than the XXX and turns and changes direction as well if not a little better than the B4 ..... best of both worlds.

As far as I am concerned it is the best 2wd car I have ever driven since I started racing in the mid 1980s.....

jimmy
25-01-2008, 11:15 PM
The new Hot Bodies is to be unveiled in a couple of weeks - and should be released before the outdoor season gets into full swing. It's the 2WD that I'm waiting for to get back into it.

antnee
25-01-2008, 11:22 PM
I need something strong though, had enough of only doing 1 or 2 rounds a night due to wishbones, hubs, etc breaking fairly easily

I had a T4 which was tough, can anyone tell me how the B4 compairs to it?

josh_smaxx
25-01-2008, 11:26 PM
The B4 is just the same apart from being shorter, thinner and lower but all the hubs ect are the same, with the wishbones being shorter you would expect them to be stronger, but for me only running a B4 i cant comment on how much stronger, all i know is that a B4 still breaks but the trackside support seems to be better than the other 2 2wd's although parts arnt silly cheap (my TC that cost well over £100 more is over £1 cheaper for a pair of wishbones).

If i were you id try out all the cars, pick the one that suits your driving the best.

ashleyb4
25-01-2008, 11:31 PM
so far with my cr ive broken front wishbone and rear T plate the cr and b4 are about the same strength wise whats up with your CR antee???

A

antnee
25-01-2008, 11:40 PM
Broke a wishbone from the lightest tap while warming up in the first round, another hub went today, broke 2 before xmas, servo gears gone again, can't get it to go out of corners properly. just fed up with it.

I just want a car I can just stick on the track and go! I just want to race not spend time repairing it, constantly servicing diff's and shocks

O the wing mounts annoy me too, so do the gearbox screw holes, everything strips way to easy, and also havign to thread stuff aswell annoys me

:mad:

ashleyb4
25-01-2008, 11:49 PM
When you get the car right its not a problem all cars require the same mainternance i find losi shocks the easiest to replace seals in as for setup post up what your running now and tell us what its doing and im sure most of us will be able to help as for breakages what ever you break on one car you will more than likerly break on another car the t34 has large wheels and lots of flex in things to let it be bounced about. Post up your setup and let us have a look. As for servo gears ive done a set to maybe check your servo saver is built 100% correctly i built it wrong first time.

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Jez
25-01-2008, 11:52 PM
rb5 does it for me.only broke 1 front shock tower at its first run at nissan last year.turning quicker laps than with my 4wd.or is that cos im not right good?:confused:

antnee
26-01-2008, 12:00 AM
Hmm maybe I should buy a servo saver for it, it should have one straigh onto the servo?

also bits in my set-up change due to it being rubbish and breaking/stripping, mainly being the bulkhead,

antnee
26-01-2008, 12:08 AM
How strong are durga's?, I entered the competition on here btw :)

ashleyb4
26-01-2008, 12:12 AM
No there is a built in servo saver in the steering asemberly mainly what oil and springs are you running and what pistons??? also have you got the reack steering assemberly on or the ballcrank style one.

If you want strength it seamspretty strong but for strength wouldnt really recoemend a rb5.

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antnee
26-01-2008, 12:18 AM
steering rack i think, im running

front, orange pistons, not sure what oil, black springs
back, orange pistons, 45W xray oil, pink springs

ashleyb4
26-01-2008, 12:23 AM
Try going to red pistons all round

Rear

spring :red
Oil 30wt

Front:

Spring : black maybe blue for a little more steering
Oil 35wt

That should give you a good setup for get gonig with downlaod trickys guide off horrizon site on hits and tips on how to change the xxx i found it useful. give that a whirl after talking to a few people ive reached the concludion that if the cr is setup well it will go well. As soon as itss all sorted it will ismply be stick in on the track and win. Again but its up to you the b4 is a very good car very simple setup. I cant fault it

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Scouser
26-01-2008, 12:26 AM
For a strong 2wd, I definitely WOULD recommend an RB5. I ran one for a while with the Cliff=RC ali bulkhead and the thing was a tank! The casting seems to be to higher tolerances than the AE (Thunder Tiger) stuff and as a result, a crash that would break the AE arms didn't phase the Kyosho at all! I can only directly compare these two 2wd cars but for me the RB5 seems way stronger than the B4. JMO of course.;)

telboy
26-01-2008, 12:52 AM
The RB5 was a top car. I'd just got a nice set up on it when I got rid. And didn't break much...and I really tested it!

But I'd wait for the new Hot Bodies, I've heard about some of the features and they are nice......but I'm not sayin owt.....jimmy.;)

Worth the wait it will be, hmm.
:D

Its gonna be goooooodd.:cool:

blitzboy
26-01-2008, 01:05 AM
we all know which way your going tel but im with u cause ma D4 rocks big time :D

RogerM
26-01-2008, 10:59 AM
The RB5 is super strong!!!

So far I have only broken one part and that was a freak incident that you couldn't repeat no matter how hard you tried!!!!!

I'd have no problem recomending the RB5 to an absolute newb as it is so strong, so easy to drive smoothly and very easy to work on.

Mike Hudson
26-01-2008, 12:55 PM
Associated B4, Losi XXXCR, XFactory X6 and the new hotbodies 2wd when its out should be also good hopefully are the best bunch around at current with the most support i think

ben
26-01-2008, 01:12 PM
What other 2wd's are their at the moment mike. I think you have named them all. Can you really say the new hotbodies 2WD is good when it hasnt been released to the public?
Id reccomend the Associated B4 purely because their is basically one setup that works nearly everywhere in the UK. And it only needs minor changes to the setup to make it perform. The parts availability i would say is the best around. They dont charge silly prices either. Also their is a lot of support for the car so their will nearly always be someone who can give you advice on the car trackside.

hope this helps
ben

antnee
26-01-2008, 03:42 PM
Ash, what surface is that set-up for?

If I do change anything, I will get black pistons

ashleyb4
26-01-2008, 03:56 PM
thats for carpet with a touch of slippy wooden floor Why black pistons??? red all round really.

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Tom3012
26-01-2008, 06:41 PM
Losi xxxcr setup : grass/astro

Front spring : blue
Rear spring : yellow
Oil front : 35 or 40 (depending on how you like your steering)
Oil rear : 30
Pistons : red all round

All the cars of today are pretty similar, its mostly down to the driver, some cars are going to be stronger than others in certain places, but weaker in other areas.

i have a B4 and a Losi xxxcr, and i personally prefer the losi. i find its a more rewarding car as i seem to be able to push it harder, where as the B4 seems to just be to laid back of a driving style.

just my opinion....

ben
26-01-2008, 11:53 PM
B4 all the way:thumbsup: I didnt like the CR when i had one. Their just didnt seem to be very much steering with the car. And the car was very random over the bumps. I also found that it was quite a weak car compared to the B4.:thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:
Just my very honest opinion:lol:

ben

ashleyb4
27-01-2008, 01:23 AM
hehe ben

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mattym0310
27-01-2008, 09:57 AM
i would say that, from my experience, an x6 is an immensly strong car, even more so than the b4. a b4 is a very good car and i would say it probably has the best parts supply trackside and also a lot of people run them so help is very easy to get.

is there any reason why this is turning into a xxx setup thread?

markwilliamson2001
27-01-2008, 10:16 AM
From what I have read and heard, the CR is a more complex car, and has lots more adjustments...

For me and most other club and regional drivers, this is tooo much adjustment, and ends up just causing confusion! (What to adjust next on the track). I have also heard problems with the diff in the CR, and it needing to be replaced with XX4 diff halves and what not, to make it reliable.

I had an original XXX, and have used the B4 as well. My gripe was getting enough steering from the thing in the wet/damp. The B4 just works with one setup on it! A lot of club drivers use the XX4 and B4 (over the XXX-CR), so I would go for the B4 in my opinion. The B4 is also cheaper in FT mode now!

Mark

ben
27-01-2008, 10:45 AM
hit the nail on the head their mark:thumbsup:

Tom3012
27-01-2008, 11:43 AM
i would say that, from my experience, an x6 is an immensly strong car, even more so than the b4. a b4 is a very good car and i would say it probably has the best parts supply trackside and also a lot of people run them so help is very easy to get.

is there any reason why this is turning into a xxx setup thread?


its only a few litte basic pointers :)

antnee
27-01-2008, 12:57 PM
Anybody want to swap a xxx for a b4?

Mike Hudson
27-01-2008, 01:14 PM
Ive had an X6 since august sepetember and its by far the strongest car i have driven it's been its through 3 regional, a 6 hour indurance and club nights every other week and all thats happened is a the plastiv shock rod end came off as it had no thread left on it and a very old b4 front wishbone broke very impressed no other breakages at all :woot::p setup is also easy to identify what you want more of steering etc. and they are really good, i used to have a b4 and this car i've found so much better for me:thumbsup: