excellent day today!

[captainlip]

fantastic day guys! shame we didnt get racing until later on, but all the same was an excellent to see some new faces!

:thumbsup:

[tisher]

was a good day really good turn out I had an nightmare not finishing one heat because the sxx finally died. Did not do to bad tho in the final doing 16 laps with a 10.5 motor out of the truggy and considering I had a 40 sec first lap due to being wiped out:rolleyes:

[Stotty]

Great day for the club good turn out. Shame about race control.
Didn't do very well car wasn't set up right. Gutted

[Si Coe]

Just shows that running race control is a little more difficult than just sitting at a computer!

Rog is however looking a lot better than this morning thankfully.

Turns out half the problem was we shouldn't have been using that PC in the first place - we have a new one that everything is set up for but Rob and I didn't know that and picked up the wrong one......

We are going to have a little meeting next week for those not doing the Southport Regional, which I'll run but Rog will supervise, so I can get some more practise in. Learning how it all works with 62 people, no printer and already running late isn't the best idea!

[losichris]

Just shows that running race control is a little more difficult than just sitting at a computer!

Rog is however looking a lot better than this morning thankfully.

Turns out half the problem was we shouldn't have been using that PC in the first place - we have a new one that everything is set up for but Rob and I didn't know that and picked up the wrong one......

We are going to have a little meeting next week for those not doing the Southport Regional, which I'll run but Rog will supervise, so I can get some more practise in. Learning how it all works with 62 people, no printer and already running late isn't the best idea!

Very good effort however! Good day either way!

[birdy]

62 drivers, that's good going.

[johnnygibbon]

What happened tO race control did lip sabotage it

[Maddy]

Just shows that running race control is a little more difficult than just sitting at a computer!

Rog is however looking a lot better than this morning thankfully.

Turns out half the problem was we shouldn't have been using that PC in the first place - we have a new one that everything is set up for but Rob and I didn't know that and picked up the wrong one......

We are going to have a little meeting next week for those not doing the Southport Regional, which I'll run but Rog will supervise, so I can get some more practise in. Learning how it all works with 62 people, no printer and already running late isn't the best idea!
Well done to race control to getting it sorted an at least we all raced and the rain stayed off,great day even though i only did 1 lap in final due to some strange cutting out problems :cry:
Trucks final was awsome again,total CARNAGE,lovin it :thumbsup:

[tisher]

Well done to race control to getting it sorted an at least we all raced and the rain stayed off,great day even though i only did 1 lap in final due to some strange cutting out problems :cry:
Trucks final was awsome again,total CARNAGE,lovin it :thumbsup:


thats exactly the problems I got in the heats going to drive the truggy next time missed it today it looked a proper truck carnage:lol:

[Maddy]

thats exactly the problems I got in the heats going to drive the truggy next time missed it today it looked a proper truck carnage:lol:
When i get car home and had a little fiddle,couldnt find anything wrong then tried on grassed area next to my house and it was perfect no problem :confused::confused:
anybody else had issues today like this ??

[tisher]

check your sensor lead is right in I have had that before today

[Whiskers]

Yeah good day today. I think 2wd is the way forward for me now

[Maddy]

check your sensor lead is right in I have had that before today
Its a sensorless motor,
but ran fine when i tried it at home??

[Cr3Ad]

fantastic day today just wish i could have finished one race arwell there next time got plenty of pics gonna go through them all get rid of blurry ones and try post em all up

[danDanEFC]

Cheers for the great day.

It was my first time at the new track at it looks good.

[Maddy]

fantastic day today just wish i could have finished one race arwell there next time got plenty of pics gonna go through them all get rid of blurry ones and try post em all up
Great camera work today chris,cant wait to see them all,:thumbsup:

[steve-thebabystore]

Was a very good day, shame I left my front end outside the race control fence. Problems aside the solutions were workable and everyone should have been happy.

[Howler]

Yeah was fun, happy with 2nd in trucks, had a dodgy centre diff and didnt think i'd improve. Nice to see the numbers. Two heats of trucks even :)

[Maddy]

Yeah was fun, happy with 2nd in trucks, had a dodgy centre diff and didnt think i'd improve. Nice to see the numbers. Two heats of trucks even :)
Trucks are getting more popular,might be 2 more next time out,just on that bidding sight looking as we speak :lol::lol:

[Howler]

Trucks are getting more popular,might be 2 more next time out,just on that bidding sight looking as we speak :lol::lol:

Trucks are where all the fun is mate.

[Maddy]

Trucks are where all the fun is mate.

:D
my lad is getting a new 1 this week too,
fancy selling your other truck?

[tisher]

bit of a vid of my rb5 on sunday in the final just shows how slow a 10.5 really is even with my good driving:lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82bWt5P5PQc

[Si Coe]

You need to up your timing boost if you can. The first lap on that vid has my RC10 sat right behind you all the way round and looking way quicker despite having me behind the wheel and taking the widest lines everywhere :blush: , yet that too has a 10.5t motor in it.

[coleman758]

You need to up your timing boost if you can. The first lap on that vid has my RC10 sat right behind you all the way round and looking way quicker despite having me behind the wheel, yet that too has a 10.5t motor in it.

Get a 5.5 in it and have done with it!

[Si Coe]

I tried that 5.5t in the truck which is the same gearbox etc. It stripped out the diff centre screw in 2 runs......

[tisher]

You need to up your timing boost if you can. The first lap on that vid has my RC10 sat right behind you all the way round and looking way quicker despite having me behind the wheel, yet that too has a 10.5t motor in it.


its was the fusion exceed esc 10.5 that was in my truggy I throw it in for the final because I had been having a mare all day with the lrp sxx I think I am going to get hold of 7.5 for it and a decent speedo and just leave it in the car other than that the car seemed pretty good

[coleman758]

I tried that 5.5t in the truck which is the same gearbox etc. It stripped out the diff centre screw in 2 runs......

Haha! your truck its pretty old though...

Martins RB5 should cope! 6.5t Is ideal really i think. That's what i will be putting in my DEX210

[coleman758]

Are you at Bury on Sunday Martin? Try my 6.5 X12 its just in my box doing nothing.

[tisher]

I not going to be able to make sunday this week but I will need a decent esc to run anything that quick ANYBODY got one for sale?

[Si Coe]

Haha! your truck its pretty old though...

Martins RB5 should cope! 6.5t Is ideal really i think. That's what i will be putting in my DEX210

The gearbox is the same as used in a B4, and the centre screw was new, from a B4 diff rebuild kit. In other words it blew a B4 diff.
Now the diff centre screw is something of a weak point in the B4, but its only a little weaker than most other brands. 2wd diffs are not made for handling massive amounts of power.
6.5t is on the upper side of useable in a 2wd - 7.5t is closer to ideal I'd say.

[coleman758]

I not going to be able to make sunday this week be I will need a decent esc to run anything that quick ANYBODY got one for sale?

Hmmm... I'm pondering on an RSpro for my Durango. I may be selling my SXX. but i'm not 100% yet.

[Si Coe]

Why? So your servo won't work just like in Phils car?
That RSpro might look neat, but in practice the SXX is just plain better in an offroader.
If you were running a stock motor like mine, the RSpro's box of tricks is useful, but with your X12's you can't use any of the advanced settings (they'll kill the motor) so all you have is a slightly smaller esc with a weak BEC that can't handle your servo.

[tisher]

have you seen the one thats in the for sale section at the moment for 150 with a tekin redline

[captainlip]

Hmmm... I'm pondering on an RSpro for my Durango. I may be selling my SXX. but i'm not 100% yet.

Noticeably better than the SXX mate, not for everyone but works a treat for me!

[Si Coe]

Noticeably better than the SXX mate, not for all the worlds and national drivers who seem to prefer the LRP but works a treat for me!

Corrected that for you Phil....

Anyway - My GM Genius can do all the RSpro's tricks, in fact in TC's its the RSpro's main competitor. Running 10.5t's its way better than an SXX, but the optimum setup for a mod motor is actually designed to make it behave like an SXX!
You Durango boys seem to have a thing for wasting money on bling that doesn't work as well as what it replaced....

[tisher]

I think I might go for another sxx and novak ballistic 7.5 I like novak motors there not as quick but really smooth or does anybody know where to get my sxx fixed

[captainlip]

Corrected that for you Phil....

Fair play but I have to say there was a noticeable difference in using 45c lipos and supposedly 90c lipos with thicker 14 gauge wire

Hard to put into words but better to drive and giving more feel to the throttle.

Over the nosram pearl / Lrp I'd rather use a tekin

Each to their own

[captainlip]

Corrected that for you Phil....

Anyway - My GM Genius can do all the RSpro's tricks, in fact in TC's its the RSpro's main competitor. Running 10.5t's its way better than an SXX, but the optimum setup for a mod motor is actually designed to make it behave like an SXX!
You Durango boys seem to have a thing for wasting money on bling that doesn't work as well as what it replaced....


I won't be spending much from now on, got the buggy where I want it now just need to push my driving skills.

I'll be looking at some 90c lipos for defo, maybe replace the spekky gear for futaba, other than that it's just going to be new hop ups soon to be released and replacing wearing parts

[Si Coe]

Tisher - Derek Bailey is the man for ESC repairs. Search the electrics section and you'll find details.

Phil - You probably prefer the current profile your RSpro is running. The SXX ver 2 can be adjusted in the same way, though your Pearl was a version 1 so couldn't.
Personally I find my SPX a bit too aggressive and prefer my GM. Still not convinced about my Team Wave RBS- seems a little slow compared to the GM but it is silky smooth....

[Si Coe]

I won't be spending much from now on, got the buggy where I want it now just need to push my driving skills.

I'll be looking at some 90c lipos for defo, maybe replace the spekky gear for futaba, other than that it's just going to be new hop ups soon to be released and replacing wearing parts


I'm pretty sure the 90C lipos are a psychological thing.
90C 5000's could deliver 450A, which is somewhat more than the 120-150A your esc can cope with. In fact, 45C 5000's delivering 225A is still more than the esc can take. I suspect its more the wiring or the being a new set of lipos....

[tisher]

I won't be spending much from now on, got the buggy where I want it now just need to push my driving skills.

I'll be looking at some 90c lipos for defo, maybe replace the spekky gear for futaba, other than that it's just going to be new hop ups soon to be released and replacing wearing parts


90c cells are animals mate make the car way to aggressive lee runs them and his car is stupidly quick.
A wise rc man once told me you somtimes need to go slower to go faster and in a way its true to a point.
if you watch the vid of my car in the final it was slow yet I still did 16 laps including a 40sec first lap
You did 17 didn't you?

[captainlip]

I'm pretty sure the 90C lipos are a psychological thing.
90C 5000's could deliver 450A, which is somewhat more than the 120-150A your esc can cope with. In fact, 45C 5000's delivering 225A is still more than the esc can take. I suspect its more the wiring or the being a new set of lipos....

I understand the 90c part is hear say, but there was a real noticable difference with them over 45c lipos that are relatively new and balanced ect etc

the throttle was more responsive, felt smoother and more direct than with the 45c, its hard to explain but im sold on the 90c lipos

im not saying its faster at all, just more consistent and smoother if that makes sense.

[Howler]

I think I might go for another sxx and novak ballistic 7.5 I like novak motors there not as quick but really smooth or does anybody know where to get my sxx fixed

Just sell the buggy and buy a short course truck, it'll give you much bigger smiles and less trouble :thumbsup:

[captainlip]

90c cells are animals mate make the car way to aggressive lee runs them and his car is stupidly quick.
A wise rc man once told me you somtimes need to go slower to go faster and in a way its true to a point.
if you watch the vid of my car in the final it was slow yet I still did 16 laps including a 40sec first lap
You did 17 didn't you?


totally agree with you martin, I NEVER drive flat out at any point, im more hesitant and always strive to drive smoother and finding better lines.

my take on it is i would be faster flat out but no doubt on my roof more, and being on your roof can often add 10seconds a lap, so my theory is if i hold back slightly and crash less I will reach the finish faster than flat out crash, flat out crash.

I have to say it works well, but im at the point now where i can see its holding me back now, if i can learn to push more without increasing time on my roof ill defo be up in the standing.

[tisher]

Just sell the buggy and buy a short course truck, it'll give you much bigger smiles and less trouble :thumbsup:

yep your right mate it will be trucks next time for sure vaughn was not happy i was not racing with him on sunday

[tisher]

totally agree with you martin, I NEVER drive flat out at any point, i'm more hesitant and always strive to drive smoother and finding better lines.

my take on it is i would be faster flat out but no doubt on my roof more, and being on your roof can often add 10seconds a lap, so my theory is if i hold back slightly and crash less I will reach the finish faster than flat out crash, flat out crash.

I have to say it works well, but i'm at the point now where i can see its holding me back now, if i can learn to push more without increasing time on my roof ill def be up in the standing.


I have got up to a good standard with my fs now to a point I don't find the car to be challenging where as I am in the same situation as you with my rb5 its taking longer for me to get my thumbs back on the 2wd but its what I used to race back in the day so i find them more challenging to drive therefore more interesting

[coleman758]

Your FS is only getting boring because no one can bloody catch you!

[tisher]

Your FS is only getting boring because no one can bloody catch you!

:lol:still going to run it indoors tho not quite as quick as Mark Smith

[coleman758]

:lol:still going to run it indoors tho not quite as quick as Mark Smith

Is that the guy with the purple B4?

[tisher]

yep he did 19 laps in the final on sunday very smooth driver

[coleman758]

yep he did 19 laps in the final on sunday very smooth driver

He did look VERY fast, although no where near as fast outdoors on Sunday.
his car looks well setup though. i was watching it while marshaling and it stuck to the track like S**T to a blanket.

[tisher]

He battered the A final like I said before you don't need to be like a missile you need to be consistent he was running tyre adhesive on his tyres

[Si Coe]

I certainly got faster going from a 6.5t to a 10.5t, though in my case its sort of a reverse effect to what you guys are after - I drive aggressively, so I set my car to be smooth to compensate.
The best Lipo's to choose are a curious thing - I really like my 6000's not because of their capacity or punch, but the fact they are massively heavy. The car (which was designed with NiMH's in mind) is balanced nicely with them in without adding weights. I've tried 'better' cells in the car, and always felt they upset the way it drives.

[The race controller]

You've raised a point there Si. Has anyone read the BRCA handbook?
You should be running to the minimum weight.
Running LiPo's gives you the chance to distribute the weight with lumps of lead etc. You may find the EXTRA weight you put in your cars with all the extra power you have these days will improve you set-up, totally.