rb5 mid carbon prototype

[le_sam]

this is a mid conversion based on the MCS
chassis is 9mm longer.
cheap cutting but good enough for prototypes...
now i'm waiting for the alloy gearboxes and other pieces like motor plates...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/304926_201835883212189_100001573354356_528990_7922 917_n.jpg
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now i can update the pieces to change some details :
-chassis design to fit perfectly the Vega body (but i'll try others before)
-battery strap (if the motor touch the right one when on the motor-plate+bigger holes)
-rear shocks tower to be used with or without arm holder (like MCS or like Vega)

....

[The Chef]

Looking very nice. What does it drive like?

[le_sam]

Looking very nice. What does it drive like?

good question!... we don't know!
but we think very good. like an C4.1?! :D
it's gonna be reversible (usable with the Kyosho gearbox/rear motor).
so, it seems that the first tests will be with the rear motor configuration.

this is some low-cost prototypes we'll run for tests in races, on different surfaces.
we're located in France, where are many dirty/bumpy tracks, often shared with/destructed by 1/8. that's why we do this longer chassis.
also, lighter than the MCS, reversible and cheaper for us.
60€/carbone kit.
it need few other pieces we're doing, step by step...
more pics when the rear motor configuration will be finished, or if the alloy gearbox is ready.

[le_sam]

4.30 AM... time is going fast when you work with passion:bored:

the rear motor configuration, not finished.

long pack and T-saddle are able too.

the ESC is a fake (burnt), it's just to show one of the configuration.



https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/319460_202187983176979_100001573354356_530316_6583 108_n.jpg

[le_sam]

rear motor RT5 configuration.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/310297_204323276296783_100001573354356_536575_6176 828_n.jpg

i'll design some new shocks towers, specially the rear for the mid version.
i'm still waiting for the mid alloy gearboxes...

[coleman758]

Will you gearbox fit in the normal MCS?

[le_sam]

Will you gearbox fit in the normal MCS?

yes.
i do that for my MCS first.
that's the most difficult step.
then i've asked myself for doing other kits for friends & me...

[le_sam]

first test on sleepy track (wet outdoor-carpet) with the rear motor configuration :
i can't believe how easy-to-drive it was!!
with the stock RB5 SP set-up (realy close)

the (old) body is a Proline for RB5 (vortex!?)
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/303226_205288162866961_100001573354356_539482_1136 390071_n.jpg

i love it :wub
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/305386_205288102866967_100001573354356_539481_1671 717206_n.jpg

now, few days before the mid-gearbox, it's hard to wait sometime...

[le_sam]

rear-motor dirt/dust tests :
we try it @ the older club in France.
this one (but dry today) :
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs266.snc6/179463_139068389488939_100001573354356_237498_1389 464_n.jpg

it was very impressive, easy AND fast!
i can't wait for an indoor race to test the mid configuration! (but i will, till the gearbox is not ready, lol!)

next step : races...

bye!

[tsan]

Video please!
Car looks great, Sam.:thumbsup:

[le_sam]

RB5 (rear motor)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvvherZSsCY

few seconds with the RT5 (the only vid' i have :bored:)
http://www.youtube.com/user/lesamtrack#p/a/u/2/Z6VcmaVyh2I

[le_sam]

Hi,

step by step the mid version is built.
here is what it will look like

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/320884_211751535553957_100001573354356_563045_1599 249814_n.jpg

[coleman758]

That looks bloody good!!

[le_sam]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/315370_214216588640785_100001573354356_571916_1715 275590_n.jpg

RB5 FT mid motor 3D animation (https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=214213341974443&saved)

[Dufty07]

Lookin very nice sam:thumbsup:

[alana07]

4.30 AM... time is going fast when you work with passion:bored:

the rear motor configuration, not finished.

long pack and T-saddle are able too.

the ESC is a fake (burnt), it's just to show one of the configuration.



https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/319460_202187983176979_100001573354356_530316_6583 108_n.jpg

so how's the developments going for this chassis now?

[le_sam]

hello,

two cars are running on the rear-motor configuration.
we have a race this week-end, so it's gonna be the first real test.
(I've made a race before but not prepared and totaly failed)
the Small alloy columns are under construction and i wait for an estimate of the carbon parts.
so the rear version will be soon available.

but...
it's "carpet time" and the first goal is a mid version.
I'm waiting for the mid-gearbox, I depend of the manufacturer(s).
the motor-plate is under construction.
i must also resolve the problem of small alloy parts (like back reinforcement supports)

i keep in touch...

[captainlip]

mid motor is the only way to go!

watch coleman he will be getting itchy fingers with his money with all that carbon flying about.

[alana07]

hello,

two cars are running on the rear-motor configuration.
we have a race this week-end, so it's gonna be the first real test.
(I've made a race before but not prepared and totaly failed)
the Small alloy columns are under construction and i wait for an estimate of the carbon parts.
so the rear version will be soon available.

but...
it's "carpet time" and the first goal is a mid version.
I'm waiting for the mid-gearbox, I depend of the manufacturer(s).
the motor-plate is under construction.
i must also resolve the problem of small alloy parts (like back reinforcement supports)

i keep in touch...

is your test this weekend on a dirt track? hope it turns out very well for you. is the rear motor version going to have a long wheelbase design or will it be a normal kit wheelbase version?

keep updating us on your progress here.....:thumbsup:

[le_sam]

is your test this weekend on a dirt track? hope it turns out very well for you. is the rear motor version going to have a long wheelbase design or will it be a normal kit wheelbase version?

keep updating us on your progress here.....:thumbsup:

hello,

this week-end it's an indoor race with carpet track.
and some good drivers.
it's gonna be difficult with the rear motor and the long wheel base (yes, it did, for both rear and mid position : +9mm)
but we'll try to be not ridiculous.

i have the first motor-plate in my hands : 3mm/14g and fit well on the MCS.
and the carbon manufacturer is chosen. it will be made in U.K. :rolleyes: :thumbsup:

bye!

[le_sam]

we're ready for this week-end

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/385127_227345457327898_100001573354356_611657_1277 734724_n.jpg

[le_sam]

Arnaud Vialle and is prototype, 2nd at Bosdarros for is first 4x2 race!
he already love it!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/381078_228643513864759_100001573354356_617384_1059 683344_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/316026_228643480531429_100001573354356_617383_8054 48850_n.jpg


MCS gearbox received : one proto can run on mid motor for the "Coupe des Champions" in two weeks.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/308647_228643983864712_100001573354356_617385_5514 07585_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/386280_228638920531885_100001573354356_617377_7628 59412_n.jpg

[alana07]

Arnaud Vialle and is prototype, 2nd at Bosdarros for is first 4x2 race!
he already love it!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/381078_228643513864759_100001573354356_617384_1059 683344_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/316026_228643480531429_100001573354356_617383_8054 48850_n.jpg


MCS gearbox received : one proto can run on mid motor for the "Coupe des Champions" in two weeks.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/308647_228643983864712_100001573354356_617385_5514 07585_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/386280_228638920531885_100001573354356_617377_7628 59412_n.jpg

so how's the testing for the weekend going? are the results to your expectations, especially the rear motor chassis with the saddle battery config?

[le_sam]

so how's the testing for the weekend going? are the results to your expectations, especially the rear motor chassis with the saddle battery config?

Pretty good!

Arnaud has just cutted some spikes on the tyres and never touch again is car all the day!:lol:
i've just changed the springs, cutted spikes and 'open' (did you say that in english?) the front wheels.
then, they could be faster with a little work, i think! :D

prototypes made good impression with the other drivers on the track, some are interested and are waiting for the production.

for the carpet we've moved forward the saddle (14mm) and it's working great.
I am impatient to see the mid competing!

for the expectations :
in fact it was the first Arnaud's 2wd race and i know he's a good driver but I didn't have expected this! :thumbsup:
There is always good local drivers in this race and it's for it that we've made the trip.
the best place i've made at this area was 4th (with the MCS, in february) and i do the same with the rear motor. i'm simply surprised. :D

i've seen someone filming a final , i hope i can find the vid'...

the next round is a national one. i know that 4wd are full and 2wd almost.
so, a lot of people expected.
I'm under pressure... but what can happen?! rock'n'roll!! :cool:

bye!

[alana07]

Pretty good!

Arnaud has just cutted some spikes on the tyres and never touch again is car all the day!:lol:
i've just changed the springs, cutted spikes and 'open' (did you say that in english?) the front wheels.
then, they could be faster with a little work, i think! :D

prototypes made good impression with the other drivers on the track, some are interested and are waiting for the production.

for the carpet we've moved forward the saddle (14mm) and it's working great.
I am impatient to see the mid competing!

for the expectations :
in fact it was the first Arnaud's 2wd race and i know he's a good driver but I didn't have expected this! :thumbsup:
There is always good local drivers in this race and it's for it that we've made the trip.
the best place i've made at this area was 4th (with the MCS, in february) and i do the same with the rear motor. i'm simply surprised. :D

i've seen someone filming a final , i hope i can find the vid'...

the next round is a national one. i know that 4wd are full and 2wd almost.
so, a lot of people expected.
I'm under pressure... but what can happen?! rock'n'roll!! :cool:

bye!

souds good from your testing results....i'm certainly looking forward to the production rear motor version.

[le_sam]

Hi,

some pics...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/393670_229705927091851_100001573354356_621456_1263 490972_n.jpg

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https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/318381_229706023758508_100001573354356_621459_3204 84391_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/381927_229705973758513_100001573354356_621457_1302 580210_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/308741_229706153758495_100001573354356_621461_1364 786079_n.jpg

bye!

[le_sam]

carbon pieces will be made in a few weeks, & by Atomic Carbon!

columns : 2,9gr/pc
motor plates : 14gr/pc
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/299659_229812190414558_100001573354356_621930_1390 669774_n.jpg

[alana07]

good one for your there Sam, to have gotten f*&%king OldTimer to do your carbon parts....quality of his work cant be doubted.:thumbsup:

[le_sam]

good one for your there Sam, to have gotten f*&%king OldTimer to do your carbon parts....quality of his work cant be doubted.:thumbsup:

for sure!
the best way for quality carbon, serious work & money too!
big thanks to them!


i'm ready for Loos, near Belgium, with a Vega shell :
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/305431_229968167065627_100001573354356_622338_1947 322881_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/380585_229968407065603_100001573354356_622342_3872 76300_n.jpg

i like the differents bodies it can fit with.
perhaps our own models if we work well, but it's a new domain for us.

the last part will be the gearbox i think, but because I try to do it in France :bored:
it's not the best country for creations... except if you've got a lot of time and money to spend! :D

an address for a good CNC in U.K.? Team Xtrem? lol!
i'm joking but in fact if someone knows a good one, I take!
nothing's impossible here but I think that's better in U.K., for exemple :yawn:

bye!

[alana07]

... except if you've got a lot of time and money to spend! :D


+1 on these, especially the last item which is an ultra rare commodity these days...:woot::thumbsup::D

[le_sam]

Hi,

I think I've found a manufacturer :thumbsup:

perhaps gearboxes will be available in one month.
I wait 10 days for the 3D printed prototype.

another shell, the Puma by FTW (Cougar's body) :

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/302192_232511690144608_100001573354356_630540_3133 27844_n.jpg

I like the different bodies it can be fitted.
the one I prefere is the Bulldog (rear motor).
why not ask Proline if they're interested (or think about) to make a Bulldog shell for the Cougar (thus mine too!! :D)

bye!

[le_sam]

results of the week-end at the Coupe des Champions (Neuville, France)

JC & me : Q26 & 28. final : 28 & 27 (our goal was C final, done!)
Arnaud : Q18, final : 18!

first national race and first run with the kit for JC.
on mine, i've just change the rear tires this week-end. nothing else since the last race for this car, 2 weeks ago!
second 2wd race and first run with the mid prototype for Arnaud with great laps! he broke a rear wheel shaft in Q 4th , the only problem of the WE for the team.

Arnaud's mid
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/376570_234597936602650_100001573354356_635942_4936 27490_n.jpg

Jean-Christophe's rear motor
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/387074_234598079935969_100001573354356_635943_1003 880960_n.jpg

mine
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/387093_234595296602914_100001573354356_635934_1315 223604_n.jpg

and the last news :
if i can find funds for the mould, the gearbox could be made in magnesium!
the prototype arrives on wednesday.

[alana07]

JC's and your rear motor chassis is more interesting....with that undertray fitted, which bodyshell currently on the market fits nicely to that tray? so any idea how much this rear motor chassis's gonna costs us? thanks sam...:thumbsup:

[le_sam]

JC's and your rear motor chassis is more interesting....with that undertray fitted, which bodyshell currently on the market fits nicely to that tray? so any idea how much this rear motor chassis's gonna costs us? thanks sam...:thumbsup:

Hello!

I've calculated 139€+shipping for the "FT rear motor basic" first...
but now, I know that I'm going to sell it 125€ + shipping ;) :thumbsup:

we use the Cougar undertray (with special cuts) and many RB5 bodies fit it well for exemple.
the one i prefer is the Proline RB5 Bulldog!
we fix it with scratch and/or with the rear saddle clips. I still have a Proline Vortex too (no more produced)

with the mid, all Cougar's bodies are good but need the undertray to fit well : Phat bodies, FTW, ... and perhaps a Bulldog one in 2012!? :rolleyes:

and for MCS owners :
the frame can receive the MCS gearbox, it's only missing the two reinforcement holders to complete it

I will made a 'special tips page' with pictures in few days to show all what is possible with this fantastic kit ;)

have a good day, bye!

[le_sam]

the prototype is arrived, the gearbox will be nice...


https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/376584_236086763120434_100001573354356_640377_1472 681036_n.jpg


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[le_sam]

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[le_sam]

http://media.automodelisme.com/2011Races/TT-110/Challenge-Indoordogne-Sarlat/i-9gkLWLX/0/M/DSCF1107-M.jpg
http://media.automodelisme.com/2011Races/TT-110/Challenge-Indoordogne-Sarlat/i-jg5p48H/0/M/DSCF1077-M.jpg

http://media.automodelisme.com/2011Races/TT-110/Challenge-Indoordogne-Sarlat/i-kmDC2Q3/0/M/DSCF1101-M.jpg

the new shock towers :
http://media.automodelisme.com/2011Races/TT-110/Challenge-Indoordogne-Sarlat/i-WXGJ7pz/0/M/DSCF1079-M.jpg

[le_sam]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQZnT_eqajs&feature=player_embedded

[coleman758]

That looks nice, What money are you looking at?

Also, Maybe you need to have a think about the name! FT?? I'm sure thats part of another well know brand :lol:

kit FT rear motor in stock! :thumbsup:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/386071_236522079743569_100001573354356_641466_1512 808287_n.jpg

[captainlip]

That looks nice, What money are you looking at?

Also, Maybe you need to have a think about the name! FT?? I'm sure thats part of another well know brand :lol:


save your money for a real mans buggy.....mp9e :thumbsup:

[le_sam]

That looks nice, What money are you looking at?

Also, Maybe you need to have a think about the name! FT?? I'm sure thats part of another well know brand :lol:

Hi Matt,

sorry, I'm not sure about "what money you're looking at" means!?
If it's the price, just 'clic' on my signature ;o)

FT :
it is a foot!?... it is a factory team!?... no, it's a Freak Team's! :thumbsup:

save your money for a real mans buggy.....mp9e :thumbsup:

great, an another 1/8 owner who discover electricity!
did you try to do the 1/10 national championship with an 1/8!? :D

you're right, that's for men!... but i'ts not the best way to save money... and i'm not a real man in fact, not enough hairs! :p

bye!

[le_sam]

last news :
1 or 2 machined gearboxes will arrived in 10-15 days to valid the rest of the production.
the mid version should be available before X'mas :yawn:
good news for some MCS owners too!

and stickers will be available to complete the kits

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/375555_241074379288339_100001573354356_652952_1001 664935_n.jpg

bye!

[le_sam]

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