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Welshy40
05-02-2008, 07:28 AM
Guys,
I already have an idea that Green Schumacher are the way to go for shiney concrete, but what else is available for this surface. Are Ballistic buggy any good?
is it indoors or outdoors. Because if it is indoors maybe schumacher yellow minispikes or yellow full spikes.
ben
telboy
05-02-2008, 09:34 AM
ooh, not sure about yellows, they will wear big time.
On 'normal conrete' we used to run green or blues mainly for wear rate.
Or try some of the schuey 'blocks' they may wear better on yellow compound. other than that, foams.
But if it is like the sports hall floors then yellows will be fine. It depends how 'shiny' it is and if it is in the slightest bit abrasive.
Northy
05-02-2008, 09:46 AM
GRP's might be worth a try, seem to grip like a yellow but don't 'go off' anywhere near as quickly. They may even grip right down to the carcass as that is textured to give extra grip :thumbsup:
G
Southwell
05-02-2008, 09:51 AM
Yeh, greens will be dead almost instantly. I would try GRP's or poss schuey blues. You wont get the same grip but they will last much longer.
Chris Green
05-02-2008, 10:05 AM
What GRP's are these? Conespikes seem popular? is there any chance of them being specified at regionals / nats?
c0sie
05-02-2008, 10:45 AM
I use yellow Schuy's at Caldicott, little wear and loads of grip.
The surface is like shiney concrete, and its very cold too.
Chris Doughty
05-02-2008, 10:56 AM
What GRP's are these? Conespikes seem popular? is there any chance of them being specified at regionals / nats?
not a chance in hell of seeing them at any 2008 national, the tires for all the nationals are BB spikes and schum mini-spikes
Lee Martin
05-02-2008, 11:13 AM
the perfect tyre for concrete/tarmac has got to be a JConcepts bar code.
but as these are not out yet...........use a losi BK Bar.....i used them at my track and as soon as it touch the tarmac it wheelied!!!....
failing that...a M3 compound tyre like a proline steppin is good!
Richard Lowe
05-02-2008, 11:47 AM
the perfect tyre for concrete/tarmac has got to be a JConcepts bar code.
Shh!! They dont exist :lol:
Chris Green
05-02-2008, 12:46 PM
not a chance in hell of seeing them at any 2008 national, the tires for all the nationals are BB spikes and schum mini-spikes
Is that confirmed? I didn't realise it was announced for this year yet?
What happens with tyres? is it a similar process to the battery list for the EB board?
Thanks.
Northy
05-02-2008, 12:47 PM
Yes it's confirmed.
The tyres are specified on the National entry form for each event, each event has nominated the same tyres.
Pity really, the GRP's are a really good tyre. :(
G
Jonny_H
05-02-2008, 12:49 PM
Schuey RT1 or RT3 in green, if they're still available, might give better wear...
Chris Green
05-02-2008, 01:11 PM
Yes it's confirmed.
The tyres are specified on the National entry form for each event, each event has nominated the same tyres.
Pity really, the GRP's are a really good tyre. :(
G
Thanks for that. Something else to add to the shopping list. along with cells, a new 6.5L motor etc etc.
I assume its the same for regionals?
Northy
05-02-2008, 01:17 PM
Most regions do not have a spec tyre, it's a free for all. Well it is in the NE :thumbsup:
G
Wraggy
05-02-2008, 01:28 PM
Most regions do not have a spec tyre, it's a free for all. Well it is in the NE :thumbsup:
G
Mid west this year are running spec tires for regionals but not sure what they are yet as they have not been agreed .
i would guess at schuys & BB .. mini spike
super__dan
05-02-2008, 01:31 PM
Mid west are the only region I know of with a tyre rule. Well they used to anyway!
Chris Green
05-02-2008, 01:37 PM
Most regions do not have a spec tyre, it's a free for all. Well it is in the NE :thumbsup:
G
oh right. Don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing! does that mean that you typically run many different tire choices?
Northy
05-02-2008, 01:38 PM
I did say most regions..... :D Who's the mid west rep? :confused:
Northy
05-02-2008, 01:40 PM
oh right. Don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing! does that mean that you typically run many different tire choices?
Not really, the tyres are spec'ed for the Nationals because they work. We would generally run shumies or BB on the NE tracks anyway, but we also have the choice of GRP's (which are similar to schumies).
There might be some odd looking things run when it rains though, but usually only on the 100% grass tracks.
G
Chris Green
05-02-2008, 01:41 PM
Ahh, I'll be mid-west for this year anyway. I'll wait for the tyre list. I guess its unlikely they'll be different to the nats, but I'll wait anyway.
Thank you.
Wraggy
05-02-2008, 01:51 PM
Who's the mid west rep? :confused:
come on G you should know that ..
Mr Sleigh , and is being aided by Mossy ..
Northy
05-02-2008, 01:58 PM
come on G you should know that ..
Mr Sleigh , and is being aided by Mossy ..
That's who I thought it was, was just checking :lol: I get mixed up with some of the regions.....:eh?:
Anyway, I can have a good guess at what it'll be then :D
G
Welshy40
05-02-2008, 10:59 PM
is it indoors or outdoors. Because if it is indoors maybe schumacher yellow minispikes or yellow full spikes.
ben
Indoors and yellows dont work as its like driving on ice, greens have a bit more bite, but other options seem to be the way to go.
Well Caldicot seems interesting as I never raced on anything else but carpet down there so should be fun, and will try yellows as well as greens in practice.
But for this surface that im racing on the 1/8th cars seem to have more grip than me big time. Yellows dont work at all and the tyre wear rate is hardly any, I raced three fifteen minute practice sessions and they didnt wear, but the grip was non existant on the rear (yellows) and some grip on the front (greens), but zero wear rate. I had to smooth my driving style big time. When they wear they should grip more.
What about ballistics? I also did think about proline, losi and various tires that work on clay so may go down that route.
Chris Doughty
06-02-2008, 08:46 AM
Proline M3 tire are quite common for 8th scale, they might be using them, if thats the case then some Proline M3 holeshots might be pretty dialled (B4 and B44 kit tires)
Welshy40
06-02-2008, 05:14 PM
Proline M3 tire are quite common for 8th scale, they might be using them, if thats the case then some Proline M3 holeshots might be pretty dialled (B4 and B44 kit tires)
Cheers, will give it a try. I do recall the tires that came on the B2 were quite good on tarmac, so time to experiment with the B4/B44 tires and have some fun in the process.
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