Looks like the Carisma GT14B may have someone to play with this winter.....

[Darren Boyle]

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?p=554127#post554127

[rcdunk]

mmmmm nice crimbo pressie lol

[Darren Boyle]

mmmmm nice crimbo pressie lol

LOL, Judguing by the pre-orders in the first two hours only, you and many others I think.....

[racingben]

Looks very good.

Carisma wheels and tyres and the shocks look identical too

Gear diffs interesting wonder if they can be oil filled?

Will make the micro nationals more mixed.

Will the be an issue with the car being badged 1/14 scale? I would assume that doesn't matter as long as it fits in the box?

[styleone]

How crazy! :thumbsup: I had a conversation the other day with my colleague regarding why Losi, with their love and history of making micro/mini platforms don't do a buggy to compete at this scale!! and what do you know? there she is :woot:

The 1/14th tag may cause some strange class splits at club level but as others have said...if dimensionally it fits in the Micro x restrictions....its in :thumbsup:

I just hope they have gone with the build values of the new 1/10 scale models (22 & 22T) and not just bashed out a quick ready to run 'hobby' job...although I see an ali chassis so we could be good with this little puppy.

Look forward to seeing it in the flesh...well the plastic and ali really

[rcdunk]

carisima was originally badged up as a 14th scale till chris and the micro section had a word lol and as it fitted in the box was all good looks around the same size as the gt14b same motor layout as a shark should go well

[racingben]

2.1.2. 1/16th
Scale
Dimensions in mm: Maximum Minimum
Overall width (Ready to race) 209.0mm N/A
Wheelbase (Ready to race) 190.0mm N/A
Ride height N/A 5mm
Wheel diameter 55.0mm N/A

From Losi.com
Product Specifications

Type:4WD Buggy
Scale:1/14
Length:11.49 in (292mm)
Width:8.03 in (204mm)
Height:4.33 in (110mm)
Wheelbase:7.32 in (186mm)
Weight:2.15 lb (0.98 kg)
Chassis:2.5mm anodized aluminum
Tire Type:Kingpin™ Buggy
Motor or Engine:4500Kv brushless motor
Speed Control:Brushless
Radio:2.4GHz DSM® Technology
Batteries:7.2V NiMH with EC2™ connector
Kit/RTR:RTR
Shock Type:Aluminum, threaded, oil-filled
Ball Bearings:Complete

Looks OK then

[racingben]

http://losi.com/ProdInfo/Gallery/LOSB0224-07-clipped.jpg

:thumbsup:

[Darren Boyle]

To be honest, the "scale" now in micro racing is inappropriate. As long as a buggy meets the measurments they could call it a 1/5th scale if they like.

The name alone of the GT14B tells you what scale it was when it came out, it was "just by chance ;)" inside the newly laid out rules regards dimensions, so it fits, I am sure the Losi will be very much the same when it comes.....

Surprised none of the micro lads let this one out of the bag before today to be honest.

[racingben]

Esc and motor look like the carismas too. Different colour heatsink on the esc but otherwise same size and layout.

[MK Racing]

Looks very nice, hopefully some more of the indoor 10th clubs will start running a class for 1/14th now :thumbsup:

[Gnarly Old Dog]

These are a lot of fun. Check out the video here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRmK9xAfdbs).

Can't wait to have a proper play myself:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Darren Boyle]

Looks very nice, hopefully some more of the indoor 10th clubs will start running a class for 1/14th now :thumbsup:
Most around here already do (run micros that is).... ;)

[Darren Boyle]

These are a lot of fun. Check out the video here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRmK9xAfdbs).

Can't wait to have a proper play myself:thumbsup::thumbsup:
Andy, you are getting to play with waaay too many nice toys at the moment.....

[Gnarly Old Dog]

Andy, you are getting to play with waaay too many nice toys at the moment.....


Hell yeah!

Not my thumbs in this video though :cry:

[birdy]

Good to see a UK track get used for the Video :thumbsup:

[Jonesy]

I would just like to add that the Micro National dates are on the thread link below, entries close 10 days before each event, why not get booked in to race your new Losi :thumbsup:

http://www.uk-microrc.co.uk/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=491&t=16741&st=0

[c0sie]

To be honest, the "scale" now in micro racing is inappropriate. As long as a buggy meets the measurments they could call it a 1/5th scale if they like.

The name alone of the GT14B tells you what scale it was when it came out, it was "just by chance ;)" inside the newly laid out rules regards dimensions, so it fits, I am sure the Losi will be very much the same when it comes.....

Surprised none of the micro lads let this one out of the bag before today to be honest.
Just by chance.... And the year worth of emails/phone calls prior to its debut ;)
The GT14B was specifically to meet the BRCA Micro Section 1/16th rules prior to its release c

[c0sie]

However, cab forwards shell ftw!

[kaylon]

Oh no's... now what do I do...??

I have a collection of Micro Losi and I love them!! ( I bash around my living roon all the time with my Micro T) was even considering a Mini T conversion if my Mini Madrat did not work...and now they announce this...!!

But I was really wanting a Carisma...poo...

ummm... If HPI announce a race spec 1:16th Micro I think my head will explode.

Do we have a summer season of Micro? if so I'm getting the Losi!!

Oh and will someone tell Losi, HPI etc just to make one scale of micro...this 1:14th and 1:16th crap is making my brain hurt :D

J

[markwilliamson2001]

Just looks like Carisma and Losi got together on this one. Question is, does it actually have any kickup on the front, unlike the current gt14b?
Even looks like carisma gearboxes from here as well...

[racingben]

Look at the losi picture gallery. Diff casings are not carisma ones. Could be the same internals though. The gt14 on road cars come with gear diffs so could be those.

[_sleigh_]

Diff casings are not carisma ones.

Perhaps just not the Carisma you're used to seeing :thumbsup:

[racingben]

Ok so the mk 2 looks like that then!

So likely that the carisma and losi roll bar set will be very similar then?

[Radish]

2.1.2. 1/16th
Scale
Dimensions in mm: Maximum Minimum
Overall width (Ready to race) 209.0mm N/A
Wheelbase (Ready to race) 190.0mm N/A
Ride height N/A 5mm
Wheel diameter 55.0mm N/A

From Losi.com
Product Specifications

Type:4WD Buggy
Scale:1/14
Length:11.49 in (292mm)
Width:8.03 in (204mm)
Height:4.33 in (110mm)
Wheelbase:7.32 in (186mm)


Looks OK then

Looks to be too wide! wheelbase ok but 14mm over on width.

[peetbee]

Looks to be too wide! wheelbase ok but 14mm over on width.
I think you're looking at the wrong dimensions in the rules, the er "larger of the micro scales" is a max width of 209mm:woot:
so it's spot on

[DrPaul]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKaraibVORA

[c0sie]

Perhaps just not the Carisma you're used to seeing :thumbsup:
:woot:

[Projectzip]

Sportwerks RC was an Horizon Hobby brand which was rebadged Carisma cars.
So its no surprise to see the Carisma factory turning out a Losi Micro using their already proven running gear.

I much prefer the look of the Losi version to the Gt14B

:thumbsup:

Still not going back to Micro Racing though.

[OldTimer]

Looks a fun bit of kit, looking at the manual seems to be a small kickup on the chassis at the front end and no seals on the diff, so not sure if it would leak if oil filled.

Any idea what lipos would fit this ?.

[DrPaul]

The You Tube video says the diffs are not sealed, so you cant use oil but you can pack them with grease.

Looks a fun bit of kit, looking at the manual seems to be a small kickup on the chassis at the front end and no seals on the diff, so not sure if it would leak if oil filled.

Any idea what lipos would fit this ?.

[racingben]

lipo's - anything that'll fit an rc18. Can even get hardcase 1600 and 1800 on ebay (intellect lipo)

[Body Paint]

Looks a fun bit of kit, looking at the manual seems to be a small kickup on the chassis at the front end and no seals on the diff, so not sure if it would leak if oil filled.

Any idea what lipos would fit this ?.

It looks like the kit is fitted with 6 2/3A nimhs so hardcase lipos will easily fit.

There are also a host of softcase Lipos that will fit, flightpower for example do 2150 40C and 50C lips which are ubber powerful.

Also I think Losi themselves do Lipos of the appropriate size, though I've not tried them personally.

[styleone]

So what's the general opinion on it having ali towers guys? Obviously stronger but bending ali hop ups is the thing that puts some off...I know Losi will be dealing with some high grade ali....chassis and hubss in ali makes sense...shock towers with no flex? Any thoughts? :)

[markwilliamson2001]

They already have carbon versions as options..

[Robocop]

I just want a better date than october little more exact would be helpful

[ScottyDogWoof]

Reps are saying 1st nov.

[styleone]

I hear talk of a 28th of October reschedule to releases? Anybody got good info from Horizon? Feels like we are having a lot of these convos lately :confused:

[rcdunk]

I have heard both of the above dates mentioned from various pople at horizion they are either side of the same weekend so guessing it will be an arrive at horizion on the 28th ship to shops on the 1st arrive at shops on the 2nd for colection so those who have pre ordered will collect on tuesday that gives 4 evenings testing before the national at telford if you have time to spare I know of 3 evenings close enough to me to run at not that I will probably be just the 1 maybe 2 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and this is all IF IT arrives when they say it will

[RobChalmers]

After last night's run, I'm almost confident about the pace and handling of the 8, just imagine what it'll be like with some talent behind the TX!

[styleone]

Had my sweaty mitts on one of the few cars that are in Blighty tonight at Telford. Looks really good, wide and stocky, in a good way, and the shell looks evil in real life, again in a good way :) really looking forward to trying one soon (fingers and toes crossed)

[Jonesy]

Had my sweaty mitts on one of the few cars that are in Blighty tonight at Telford. Looks really good, wide and stocky, in a good way, and the shell looks evil in real life, again in a good way :) really looking forward to trying one soon (fingers and toes crossed)


Glad you liked the look of it, my only regret was not being able to get it on track last night. I need to make sure I'm happy before making a 'debut' with it!

[RobChalmers]

I'm hoping it will surprise you, what oils have you gone for?

[_sleigh_]

He was seen filling the rears with Schumacher 'piss water', or as he claimed 55wt. :-)

[styleone]

He was seen filling the rears with Schumacher 'piss water', or as he claimed 55wt. :-)
:lol: I'm guessing you think Schuey oil is a tad thin for its rating then Phil?...buggy looked really good standing still though so fingers crossed for when it takes to the rug :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Jonesy]

Haha, will let you know the secrets as and when I have tested :thumbsup:

[styleone]

Cool, look forward to getting mine and sharing some set ups etc...I need all the help I can get ;)

[styleone]

Wonder if the bodyshell and other bits will be released straight away, if not I can see some colour clash confusion during racing?

[rcdunk]

Wonder if the bodyshell and other bits will be released straight away, if not I can see some colour clash confusion during racing?

different colour wheels it is then lol you could be busy

[styleone]

Lol well if they stand still long enough....we can dye them :)

Get your orders in quick ;)

[kayce]

Lol well if they stand still long enough....we can dye them :)

Get your orders in quick ;)

Too easy to do ourselves. :p

[kayce]

http://epor.webs.com/apps/videos/videos/view/15133935-losi-mini-8ight-at-epor?profile_tab%5Bposter_id%5D=42128292&profile_tab%5Btab_count%5D=17

I guess that means a short shelf-life for the carisma. ;)

[RobChalmers]

Or more leverage to bring out the version2

[rondoolaa]

i'm in 2 minds whether to get one or not,

has anyone tried one with your own electrics in it compared to the box standard, and if you have, is it faster than the LRP Shark,

i thought about getting the carisma when it came out but they have had a while now and still cant get any spare parts out there, unless of course your a team driver

ive heard losi parts will be in abundance, sounds good,

[Darren Boyle]

Full range of spares have arrived into stock today for the Mini 8IGHT (including clear bodies :thumbsup:) they are currently being priced up and checked off right now, then they will all be listed on our website.

Before anyone asks, no optional parts just yet, only standrd spares by the looks of things..........

[Matisse]

i'm in 2 minds whether to get one or not,

has anyone tried one with your own electrics in it compared to the box standard, and if you have, is it faster than the LRP Shark,

i thought about getting the carisma when it came out but they have had a while now and still cant get any spare parts out there, unless of course your a team driver

ive heard losi parts will be in abundance, sounds good,

dude, carisma parts have been available for ages @ trackside spares, official shop of the micro nationals.

as for speed, any car is fast if you drive it fast, your own electrics or not.

fwiw, andy jones and mark stiles ran stock motors with other speedos (ezrun and orion i think) and both seemed to do ok.

[_sleigh_]

Full range of spares have arrived into stock today for the Mini 8IGHT (including clear bodies :thumbsup:) they are currently being priced up and checked off right now, then they will all be listed on our website.

Before anyone asks, no optional parts just yet, only standrd spares by the looks of things..........

Hey Darren, have you had any of the optional parts in yet? :p I'd be interested if/when you have (not a joke) :thumbsup:

[Darren Boyle]

Hey Darren, have you had any of the optional parts in yet? :p I'd be interested if/when you have (not a joke) :thumbsup: LOL

None yet mate, next delivery we are told by Horizon, only standard bits for now

[rondoolaa]

dude, carisma parts have been available for ages @ trackside spares, official shop of the micro nationals.

as for speed, any car is fast if you drive it fast, your own electrics or not.

fwiw, andy jones and mark stiles ran stock motors with other speedos (ezrun and orion i think) and both seemed to do ok.


i only asked if anyone had tried their own motor and speedo in there cos they had a race with 5 stock mini 8ights at the winter series last sunday and my lrp shark was a lot faster down the straights

what i meant to ask is has anyone who has a shark and purchased a mini 8ight took the shark electrics out and put them in the losi and then had any idea which is the fastest with the same electrics

[Jonesy]

Hi Ron

I ran the mini-8 at Telford National last week as stock, the only thing I'd changed was to put the EzRun Speedo in it out of my Shark, that is the only thing that followed me over from one car to the next.

Straight line speed I can agree with you that my Shark (running a 6900kv) motor was quicker than my Losi (4500kv). However the 'slower' motor delivers the better package for me and for what I'm trying to achieve (National Championship).

[big dave]

i ran the losi last sunday. i used have a shark with a nosram evo speedo running a 13.5 mongoose motor. I fitted the dynamite fuze speedo to the losi on the kit motor, and it was easy same speed as the shark was. But the advantage was the motor wasn't no where near the temps the mongoose got. thats good news as the shark used to get hot on my 49/10 gearing.

[kayce]

I don't understand all these comparisons of "speed" - as speed is totally relative to the motor you're running (and gearing), and motor temp is totally relative to the gearing you've installed in the car (any car). :yawn:

[Mark Stiles]

At Telford I ran a Dynamite Fuze speedo with the kit (4500kV) motor. For the relatively long straight I felt the car was marginally underpowered. I have a 6000kV motor to try next time though... :)

[Darren Boyle]

I ran a box standard Mini 8ight fresh from the box last week at our club (even with the supplied Nimh battery) and I set the second fastest time of the whole night (including the 1/10th 2wd and 4wd buggy classes), it was superb in all aspects and certianly not too slow.....

This week however it does have an LRP Nexxt ESC and Vampire 1800mah 30C LIPO battery but the motor has been kept in.

[mrspeedy]

In std form the setup seems fine, the issue is with using smaller diameter Schumacher rally block tyres, I would say the motor needs gearing up at least 2 teeth on the pinion .....

[leelar]

is the bore 2mm and the pitch 0.5 for the pinions and where can you get them

[_sleigh_]

Yes and yes. Other motors will vary, but the Horizon/Carisma motor has a 2mm shaft.

You can go for either the Carisma/Losi range, but it's not a full 1 tooth increment unfortunately. You could also opt for AE RC18 or Robinson Racing as this will give you enough options to get a full set if required.

[leelar]

so will these fit:confused:

http://www.dms-racing.com/fruzat/qaxabast.asp?manufacturer=Losi&product=AB1262&PageURL=SQL/search.asp

[_sleigh_]

Look like they should do the job. Just check if they're alloy or steel? Alloy pinions on a big heavy 1/16th will last you about 3 meetings before they are seriously worn.

[ron63]

One Question from me to all Mini 8ight owners.
Could please someone tell me the size of the standard Tires?
I'd need to know the outer diameter and the width of both, the front and the rear tire.
Cheers,
Ron

[Darren Boyle]

First "Mini 8IGHT" options have arrived with us this evening...... :thumbsup:

see here............. http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?p=589621#post589621