Spring Paint

[_sleigh_]

This is for anyone that's removed the paint from shock springs...

What did you use???

How long did it take???

What do you now use to quickly identify the different rates???

[Chrislong]

Nitromors paint stripper.

its evil stuff, don't get it on anything - it'll burn skin, and the fumes hurt eyes. It'll literally melt anything but the metal.

If you hang your springs on string and dangle them in, you should be able to make it melt all but the colour on the first coil.

Or you can cut 5mm of coloured tubing (off wire) and wind it up the coil. I do this on cut springs so not to confuse them with uncut (I have done it)

[Lee]

You are the RC stig though chris, i dont reckon it would burn you:woot:

[GRIFF55]

I use automotive black matt paint, very fine mist and mask up the last coil. Stays on through quite a bit of abuse if you scotchbrite the spring first:thumbsup:

[footey]

just a quick question why would u want to strip the paint of the springs

[Danny McGee]

A student was of doing it is using a lighter and a bowl of water :)

Thats all me and tricky do

[_sleigh_]

just a quick question why would u want to strip the paint of the springs

Back in the day of the CAT2000 EC, it was done to create a slightly lighter spring rate.

But I'm doing it to simply mask the make of spring being used.

[Lee]

just a quick question why would u want to strip the paint of the springs


Shane, some say the paint actually stiffens the spring, and others do it so others cant see what they are using:confused:

[Tom3012]

others do it so others cant see what they are using:confused:

lol.... are we all really becoming so sad :eh?:

[_sleigh_]

Not sad, just why promote/advertise a product that's not made by your main sponsor.

Plus the colours really don't go with my paint scheme :lol:

[footey]

cheers for tha answers

[Tom3012]

Not sad, just why promote/advertise a product that's not made by your main sponsor.

Plus the colours really don't go with my paint scheme :lol:

that seems acceptable ;) but to hide a set up? thats what i thought was a bit sad?

[Chrislong]

that seems acceptable ;) but to hide a set up? thats what i thought was a bit sad?

If you ask anyone, then they'll tell you. if they don't tell you then you've found somebody who belongs in TC, I reckon you tell them that too... :thumbsup:

[GRIFF55]

Not sad, just why promote/advertise a product that's not made by your main sponsor.

Plus the colours really don't go with my paint scheme :lol:

That's why i sprayed mine, not just so the car looked pretty, although others would question that:lol:

[PaulRotheram]

Abit hard to hide the set up.. basically everyone uses the same springs anyway! :woot:

[Lee]

If you ask anyone, then they'll tell you. if they don't tell you then you've found somebody who belongs in TC, I reckon you tell them that too... :thumbsup:


100% correct, it has happened to me in touring cars as well, the driver in question actually dipped all his springs black to put everyone off also, that was super sad

[Lindsay]

This is for anyone that's removed the paint from shock springs...

What did you use???

How long did it take???

What do you now use to quickly identify the different rates???

Easiest way is to place over a gas ring on low setting and the plastic melts off.
To identify springs you can purchase coloured plastic sleeve from angling shops they use to identify Flys in Fyl Fishing.

[Northy]

Mmmmm,

I just tried that Lindsay and all I managed to do was make a nasty smell :thumbdown:

I think Julie will give you a slap on Sunday :lol::lol::lol:

G

[Lindsay]

Mmmmm,

I just tried that Lindsay and all I managed to do was make a nasty smell :thumbdown:

I think Julie will give you a slap on Sunday :lol::lol::lol:

G

Forgot
Remember to open wndow, also only do when your betterhalf is not at home.

[Northy]

:lol::lol::lol:

And perhaps not laid on the sofa with a headache and unable to take any pain killers :thumbdown:

G

[Body Paint]

I dye all my springs black.

You can then scratch the dye off the bottom of the spring to expose the paint.

[RogerM]

:lol::lol::lol:

And perhaps not laid on the sofa with a headache and unable to take any pain killers :thumbdown:

G


Dumb man, plain dumb ......... LOL :D

[b4rs]

spring paint....i thought you meant, new colour palletes brought out for spring.......hehe,

what do i know

[big air]

these are top F1 GP secrets, :woot:

[tony12795]

Phil a quick question,

If let’s say your sponsor is Losi and you’re racing Losi cars and using Losi spare parts, are you aloud to remove the paint from none sponsored parts and put them on your cars. As your current sponsor’s don’t have the right part ??

[_sleigh_]

It's not really a question of being allowed, it's more why should I promote someone else's product.

Plus in this instance the spring colours do NOT look cool with the wonderful TelShells paint scheme.

[RogerM]

I must admit that this whole think strikes me as a little odd. Surely manufacture sponsored drivers a duty to their sponsor to be totally transparent in what they are doing so that people are attracted to the car not put off by the "secrets"??

If you have to run a spring from another manufactures range to get the car to perform then that manufacture needs to sort things out and match the spring PDQ!

I personally have been put off cars in the past because of apparent secret set-ups and a team that, from the by stander's view, look to be very clandestine....

Just my 2ps worth.

[Northy]

If you have to run a spring from another manufactures range to get the car to perform then that manufacture needs to sort things out and match the spring PDQ!


Maybe they are Roger, but even the mighty Kyosho can't magic them up over night! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

G

[_sleigh_]

To be completely honest, I don't really care about the do's/don'ts or rights/wrongs. :thumbdown:

The simply question was how it's done. (thanks to those that gave useful answers :thumbsup:)


How can it be so difficult for everybody else to simply answer the questions that are asked. :confused:.


As for manufacturers not being able to get their cars performing right with all their own products. It almost certain that a fairly large percentage of drivers use shock oil / wheels etc that aren't made by the manufacturer of the car.

Why re-invent the wheel ?? (excuse the pun)

[RogerM]

Fairy snuff ...... but please share the info on parts with everybody ......

[Chrislong]

Fairy snuff ...... but please share the info on parts with everybody ......

And thats you PRESUMING that he isn't... how about holding on to your presumptions? KJ

[RLGfx]

At a guess, it's Losi springs we're on about, as Phil will have loads of these and probably feels the car runs well with them. I'm sure any info will be passed back to the HB development team and advice will be taken on board, all part of R&D!

Anyway... to remove the paint you could probably use a harsh brake cleaner, or has been mentioned, Nitromors. Soak them in this and then pop a blob of coloured paint or nail varnish on the spring afterwards so you can tell what they are.

PS I'm running Losi springs on my RB5 and will be on my ZX5, because I've got them and they fit! Haven't got round to getting any Kyosho springs yet!

[neiloliver]

i was embarrassed using my Yokomo springs.. they were all day-glow

[MRD]

I paint my tyres black so no one can tell what I'm running ;).

[millzy]

i put tape over my screws so no one can see there size or material

[Southwell]

i put tape over my screws so no one can see there size or material

That tape was just to hide the gaping hole in your chassis you plum :lol:

[Chris Doughty]

I put a shell on my car so no one can see my electrix.

I put tires on, no one can see my foamz

[Northy]

I dye my pubes black so no one knows what colour they are....

G

[Southwell]

Can you see his shock oil, diff lube, bearings, etc, i think this has been blown way out of proportion.

[Southwell]

I dye my pubes black so no one knows what colour they are....

G

Are they blonde?

[millzy]

chris- i paint the shell i put on my car!!! even more stealth.

Northy- i shave my pubes so they look invisable

[MRD]

I wear a tinfoil hat to stop the government reading my thoughts and finding out what pinion I'm using.

[b4rs]

hahah lmfao doughty and mark.

[_sleigh_]

WTF???? Now I understand why I stopped visiting for over 2 months.

:wtf:

[Wraggy]

WTF???? Now I understand why I stopped visiting for over 2 months.

:wtf:
LOL i had to track back to start of the topic to find out what it was originally about .. nothing like changing topic totally:(

[Lee]

Are they blonde?

Ginger:woot:

[ben]

Beat me to it haha:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[RogerM]

And thats you PRESUMING that he isn't... how about holding on to your presumptions? KJ


Who is he ......???

If I'd have meant Phil I'd have writen "Phil, please share the info with everybody".

It was meant as a general comment .... we don't want our pits to turn into a towel fest like snouring cars do we .... :D

Why do people get so up tight over things and take general statements personally???

I am very sorry if I offended anybody but I can't see how ..........

[RogerM]

I paint my tyres black so no one can tell what I'm running ;).

LOL .... quality ... I found some old blue Losi spec tires the other day ... they needed to be painted ... such an offensive shade.....:woot:

[RogerM]

PS I'm running Losi springs on my RB5 and will be on my ZX5, because I've got them and they fit! Haven't got round to getting any Kyosho springs yet!


Pop over to the Kyosho section and I'll share what I went through on my cars spring wise. Losi springs fit but you'll find it difficult to get a low enough ride height at the front or high enough at the rear! There are ways around that though......

Don't forget to wait till you know what springs you'll be using so you can paint a shell up to compliment them .. :D

[matdodd]

I must admit that this whole think strikes me as a little odd. Surely manufacture sponsored drivers a duty to their sponsor to be totally transparent in what they are doing so that people are attracted to the car not put off by the "secrets"??



:o The thing is Rog everyone knows what springs the HB UK drivers have been using & that there working on springs of there own.
But with the team they have if anyone wants to know something they just need to ask Ive never seen Phil, Tom or Tony be anything but transparent with what there doing!

[tony12795]

Stay out of it u Dodd !!!!

Your like the offers. All ways hideing setups !!!

:p

[matdodd]

Ill remember that tomorrow Tony, no help for you :D

[RogerM]

Wasn't aimed at anybody or any company in particular ..... I seem to have come across differently to I meant to!!!!

All I was trying to say is that teams are there to promote the products and help other drivers so they can make best use of the products. You have to remember that a lot of people don't feel comfotable just walking up to the "stars" and striking up a conversation so realy on what filters down and importantly what they see on the grid.

Based on that I just don't think that covering up anything ... even if for astetic (SP?) reasons is not in the best interests of the manufacture.

When I first went to rallycross with the TTR EB4S3 I was really impressed to see the TTR team often had the current set-up on a set-up sheet on the side of their pit area ..... it often changed through the day as they got more out of the car. That made it really easy and got a quite few people interested in the car even though in the main it wasn't the fashionable choice .... purely because they knew the team where there for them. Jon Dell and Jon Hazelwood would even take people's cars and work on them for them.

I wasn't trying to get at anybody or any company, just saying that such things can (and do) put people off a brand of car.

As you know I have known both Phil and Tom for a very long time and they have always been very friendly and helpful to everybody as you say.