Bullistorm ESC

[wylie]

Has anyone seen or used one, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bullistorm-120A-Racing-sensor-brushless-ESC-1-3S-New-Free-Shipping-/320771223607?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4aaf747037 any reviews welome, seems to cheap!!!!

[Dazzler]

Looks just like a hobby wing or speed passion to me... Gotta be worth a punt at £37 quid posted.. Maybe it's because they're a terrible colour :woot:

[wylie]

I don't care about the colour :), I share your thoughts of what it looks like but don't want to waste my money, I've tried looking for reviews online but can't seem to find much info about these, its only going in a short course truck that was a prize :thumbsup: .

[BeachBuggyPhil]

It says it will run 1s on the ESC but doesn't mention it in the spec list. I would like a 1s ESC but wouldn't risk buying one on that vague discription!

[dobber]

For the money its definitely worth a punt. If you do get it and it works let us know :) Go on, be that guinea pig!

[RogerM]

It says it will run 1s on the ESC but doesn't mention it in the spec list. I would like a 1s ESC but wouldn't risk buying one on that vague discription!

The HobbyWing 1S 120A will run anything you fancy throwing at it in either pan car, TC or buggy ... check it out.

[BeachBuggyPhil]

That's the one I had my eye on. It's to go in a Dave. I'm guessing it would still need a BEC deceive to help power the servo? Like this one.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Voltage-Booster-BEC-02-/250901549615?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item3a6ae5d22f

[fidspeed]

Ive got one :thumbsup:

think i paid £17 for mine on a german ebay listing its a copy of xerun 60a comes with 422 stock supercharged software

my fan never worked instant burning smell :thumbdown: thought i killed it :o
bought replacement fan from giant cod and wired direct to battery input wires ran with 17.5 stock TC no issues its now in my dave 1S powered i use a reciver pack and you need to turn OFF voltage detection seems to be fine yet to race in anger but testing seem OK


UPDATE just tried 1s without receiver pack Yes it appears to work OK



hope this helps

fid

[OneKiwi]

I purchased one of those 120A ones.. hopefully the loverly colour will get the daughter/wife into racing :woot:

Its on its way, Ill hook it up and do a bit of a review when its tested

[fidspeed]

hi folks
just won another one on us ebay 60 a again with 17.5t sensored motor £33 all in just keep looking fellas :thumbsup:

[OneKiwi]

got a link?

[fidspeed]

you got pm

[OneKiwi]

Here we go
my 120A turned up today

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c338/simonandhanna/IMAG0464.jpg

Ill solder it up and give it a test soon

Will be interesting if it works with the speed passion program card or the turnigy/hobbywing one

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c338/simonandhanna/IMAG0465.jpg

WOW opened it up and it looks just like my speed passion esc, even the manual looks just the same.. hopefully the quality is as good and its just a rebranded/repackaged one

[dobber]

Good work!

If it works just as well as your SP i think they will be selling loads in the near future :)

[OneKiwi]

Soldered it up and did a bench test.

One negative is that the solder tabs are soldered on so they may move when you are soldering

Fans + and - were the wrong way, well it didn't work how it was suppose to so I fliped the plug works fine and not too loud

Worked fine with the turnigy lcd box I have, it seems to have 422 stock on it, I may try changing it to the latest SP or HW software later

[dobber]

Soldered it up and did a bench test.

One negative is that the solder tabs are soldered on so they may move when you are soldering

Fans + and - were the wrong way, well it didn't work how it was suppose to so I fliped the plug works fine and not too loud

Worked fine with the turnigy lcd box I have, it seems to have 422 stock on it, I may try changing it to the latest SP or HW software later


Keep the updates coming! :)

[fidspeed]

i have a second on the way with 17.5 motor and card £33 60 a version

my first is in a dave on 1s updated to latest 930 stock software i too had fan problems didnt think about swopping plug wires :confused:

wired direct to battery input wires at speedo as previous post my solder was higher melt point than posts on speedo itself so be careful when soldering

i dont think quality is any where near HW as its blatant copy but my first one cost £17 so it was worth a shot

regards dave

[OneKiwi]

Test run today with fan and a 6.5 in my dex210 2wd... yes too much but thats all I had. stock 87 and 22/21/20 T pinion then a bearing blew in the diff house.

Anyway Im real happy with it, it accepts my speed passion LCD box and the turnigy one tested quickly.

Still haven't tried installing other software yet.

Highly recommended 120A esc for the time being. Long term test and race weekend coming up will tell.

Another test on sunday

Im going to look at haveing it in the car permantly or for a while at least. Tomorrow Ill redo the wiring and shorten the leads as I used the supplied ones that are about 15-20cm

60A esc with 17.5T motor will go the touring car for my son, when it arrives, maybe in the spare 4wd later on

[fotko]

I have also Bullistorm 8,5T sensored motor and tried it at club race in my B4XL with Hobbywing Justock ESC. It works really good for the money, had enough power for jumps, really satisfied with it. Next time i will test the 60A bullistorm esc, i have allready one.

[andyroooo]

Dobber > I have just ordered a 120a one to go in my old Cougar 2 that I will bring down to SHRCC next week with me. Everything looks identical to my Hobbywing 120A units in my SX3 and SV and includes the same items in the packaging (pre cut servo tape etc) so these could be the best value units yet!!! :thumbsup:

[dobber]

Nice one, I'll look forward to seeing it in action next week. They do seem amazing value for money if they are reliable :)

[fotko]

Just received program box and checked software on the 60A version. It has 518stock program, I changed it to 930 MOD

[OneKiwi]

Just received program box and checked software on the 60A version. It has 518stock program, I changed it to 930 MOD

How did you do that?

[fidspeed]

get 2 in 1 program LCD box ( if you havent got one ) load hobbwing software programme on laptop or PC connect to car via usb and bingo !!

if you need more help PM me ill talk you through it

theres lots of info and vids on you tube remember these are a blatant copy of HW products but the software does work

regards dave

[cigbunt]

How long it did take to get this delivered?

[OneKiwi]

About 14-20 days

[fidspeed]

my 60 A + 17.5t sensored motor arrived it was about 3 weeks (normal for HK stuff if sent free)

not wired up yet dont expect too many problems as i already have one

regards Dave

[OneKiwi]

Got it sorted I used a usb cable that didn't work.. banging my head as it wouldn't connect to the PC and in the process of the frustration of a late night and little stess I connected the + and - wrong and fried it :cry:

Anyway I was really happy with it in the few training runs I got at the track.

Unfortunately I couldn't give it race condition testing.

I have now updated the 60A I have to V3 mod software, with what this software did for my motor temps with the SP esc I hope I won't have any problems with it and a 8.5 LRP x12 later this week.

Hopefully I can use the caps from it as back ups to the SP esc.

[OneKiwi]

I have now installed the 17.5 and the 60A for the son, but when I have that motor connected I get one red light on all the time and a constant beeeeep/tone.

Anyone know what the problem is?

I have tested another esc and another motor and narrowed it down to the motor, what could it be?

[Big paul]

May be the board in the motor some thing may have come un-soldered when attaching the motor wires.

[MHeadling]

So how are things going so far with this speedo??

I'm thinking of trying one on a SP 7.5 in my B44

[Aran]

I might be ordering some from the manufacturers if anyone is interested, they look like a good buy.

[fotko]

Tomorrow I have race with my bullistorm 60A esc with SP 6,5T in my B4XL. Then I let you know how perform it :-)

[andyroooo]

still waiting on mine being delivered, i think they strapped it to a tortoise and sent it on its way!!

[fidspeed]

it will be 3 weeks delivery i could have fetched on my bike quicker !!

mine installed in mardave ready to go now with 15.5 1s powered
as previous post plug fan in wrongway round into socket or it wont work (my first one died this way )

if your running in buggies watch your settings mine came with 422 stock which may be heavy power wise in a buggy on 6.5 motors im only using in mardaves and tc at moment in buggy i will stick to xerun 120 from racer in exile or giant cod there is a reason there only £30 :D

regards dave

[cigbunt]

i've just won a 120a with prog card for £27.00

do i need to change the software before use? which is advised..?
also it seems there are a few reports of the fans packing up on 1st use can any one confirm over wise?

if it works happy days

[fidspeed]

just put the kettle on and wait for 3 weeks it will turn up ;) mine always have i have 3 now :D

when you wire up leave fan un plugged to test and set up endpoints etc . when ready gently plug in fan wrong way round be ready to pullout swiftly all of mine have had to be plugged in reverse to work

not sure what software comes on 120 a i have 60 a and they have 422 stock with turbo functions enabled poss a speedo killer on a modified motor

pm me if you need more info

regards dave

[fotko]

So, today we had race on carpet. I raced B4 with T4 chassis. ESC was Bullistorm 60A, motor SpeedPassion 6,5T. I put 930MOD software. I finnished on 3. place without problems with this ESC :thumbsup: Love it for the price :p

[OneKiwi]

I thought you would have to have the 120A with a 6.5T motor.

Nice to see that the 60A is working fine, maybe with that stock software it runs hot.

Im going to have to try that with my 2WD/8.5 and maybe a 6.5 in a 4wd but that I am thinking will be too much for the esc.

[jokersat]

so whitch to bye Bullistorm 120A or hobbywing 120A is the same quality as the hobbywing ESC or a cheap chinezzzz copy....:confused::confused::confused:

[Chippy96]

I "had" a Bullistorm 60amp,it blew after about 5 metres in my X6,sent it back(it took about 8 weeks for a replacement),the replacement did exactly the same thing and blew straight away.I then bought a Hobbywing EZRUN 60amp and have had no probs at all.The 2 speedos look identical except for the labels,i`m wondering whether theyre seconds or sub standard ones that have failed quality control ?Just a point of interest,Hobbyking are selling cheap LiPos that are not up to spec but at least theyre honest and advertise them as such.If you have a Bullistorm,good luck they are a bargain price,it will be interesting to see how long they last,cheers PC.

[Chippy96]

sorry double post-cant delete...:mad:

[OneKiwi]

I think HW are a little more tried and tested, the bullistorm are pretty new to the market and have theie hicups.

Chippy what motor were you running?
Did you upgrade the software, I think that is a must.

So far I haven't had a problem with my 60A running a x12 8.5, but I havent raised all the settings to max, I think atm I would like a little more speed out of mine but a new smaller spur gear and another pinion will hopefully get what I would like.

Get the 120A if you can and upgrade the software to v3

[Chippy96]

Running 5.5T,no not upgraded yet,we (my son has the same combo) have plenty of speed,currently its powering a Mardave V12 with 1S so its not really under any strain.But when we go outdoors again - X6 with 2s, I will be getting the professional programme box to unlock the turbo ect,should be fun!!:thumbsup:

[OneKiwi]

The 60A is only rated for a 8.5T and under so yep a 5.5T will blow it up.

The upgraded software will help but for a 5.5T I would have at least a 120A if not more.

The 120 is for tops a 5.5T

[cigbunt]

The 60A is only rated for a 8.5T and under so yep a 5.5T will blow it up.

The upgraded software will help but for a 5.5T I would have at least a 120A if not more.

The 120 is for tops a 5.5T

i presume it didn't blow in the HW with a 5.5 because of software....

[12-nitroman]

i had the bullistorm esc, and i had the bullistorm 8.5t motor in my xxx and the esc didnt last 2 hours worth of drive.

too bad it was bought of ebay so couldnt send back for a replacement.

[Col]

so whitch to bye Bullistorm 120A or hobbywing 120A is the same quality as the hobbywing ESC or a cheap chinezzzz copy....:confused::confused::confused:

I presume you are aware that the hobbywing as a "cheap chinezzzz" copy of speedpassion?

[colmo]

I presume you are aware that the hobbywing as a "cheap chinezzzz" copy of speedpassion?

Actually, Hobbywing are Speed Passion's OEM. They've had speedos badged by Muchmore, Orion and HPI at various times too.

[jokersat]

I presume you are aware that the hobbywing as a "cheap chinezzzz" copy of speedpassion?
hobbywing is the manufacture of speed passion ESC same one with different name and higher price the point is the bullistorm is the same as the hobbywing's..........

[fidspeed]

sorry
bullistorms are a cheap copy of Hobbywings i have 2 and so far in 1s mardave and 17.5 tc racing mine are fine but i wouldnt trust them under pressure

there is a reason there only £30 :thumbsup:

Fid

[Col]

I presume you are aware that the hobbywing as a "cheap chinezzzz" copy of speedpassion?

Actually, Hobbywing are Speed Passion's OEM. They've had speedos badged by Muchmore, Orion and HPI at various times too.

hobbywing is the manufacture of speed passion ESC same one with different name and higher price the point is the bullistorm is the same as the hobbywing's..........

That's my point - these days there is so little difference between the "cheap chinezzzz" copy and the original that they are the same thing

[fidspeed]

sorry have to disagree col :thumbdown:

i have hobbywing extreme stocks and the are vastly better quality than bullistorm (i have both so feel competent to have an opinion)

its like saying a toyota is like a daihatsu or hyundai its just not true there is a quality difference .

on the bulistorm the fans dont work unless you plug em in reverse and the solder posts fall out if youre not careful

regards dave

[andyroooo]

My 120A has been running fine with no issues. Admitedly its not that stressed running a 7.5 in a Cougar 2 which is too much for the chassis, I will probably pick up a cheap 10.5 turn and turn up the boost. But for £30 delivered to my door I dont think its been too bad.

As far as 60A versions blowing up running a 5.5 turn in a buggy then it does say its too much current draw for even a Hobbywing/Speed Passion 60A. The lower prices have got to mean lower quality FET's etc etc so your just pushing your luck even more!!!

[cigbunt]

theres no point getting the 60amp when there priced this cheap...
i'll report back once i get my 120a...

long as it works i'll be happy

[Gunter]

Would love to hear how they go in a buggy with 6.5 / 7.5 motor

Or even a 13.5 / 10.5 using some of hobbywing stock softwear as i have a hobbywing xtream stock in a wet touring car and its rapid and as people have said it is the same as a speedpassion or the orion R10 speedo.

£42 120a posted is a bargin alongs it lasts

[Gunter]

sorry have to disagree col :thumbdown:

i have hobbywing extreme stocks and the are vastly better quality than bullistorm (i have both so feel competent to have an opinion)

its like saying a toyota is like a daihatsu or hyundai its just not true there is a quality difference .

on the bulistorm the fans dont work unless you plug em in reverse and the solder posts fall out if youre not careful

regards dave

From looking at pics of both speedos the bullistorm just has the - and + wrong on the sticker compaired to the hobbwings an SP's so if thats all there is to complain about a speedo that costs £40 then get me one of these :)

[fidspeed]

From looking at pics of both speedos the bullistorm just has the - and + wrong on the sticker compaired to the hobbwings an SP's so if thats all there is to complain about a speedo that costs £40 then get me one of these :)

I am not knocking the bullistorms if you have read the whole thread i have had two 60a units for a while and would not subject one to hi power motors what i am saying is that there is a difference in quality between genuine HW kit and a blatant ripoff copy

i am more than happy with them for what i paid for them but i wont be surprised if they dont last too long ;)

dave

[Gunter]

O no inwas disagreeing sorry I just ment for the money they seems to be very close but apparently the internals are all different and cheaper. And I did find a thread somewhere where a bloke was saying keep well away they very dangerous and blow up lipos but they were not this one admittedly

[janus_77]

Got mine today,

The Bad:

the fan fizzed out before it even reached max RPM for the 1st time :mad:
the receiver plug is very low quality :thumbdown:

The Good:


It did hookup to the Hobbyking USB uplink software, and was able to do a software update :thumbsup:
The price :woot:
On the bench the respons looks to be OK, didn't drive it btw :lol:.
Also note that you need to have a decent / good soldering iron, since you need to solder as quick as possible on the ESC itself.

[janus_77]

....... sigh, sadly there as good as the money you are paying for it.

Did the software update, but no weird boost settings. The motor was a tried and tested 6.5

Tried it just now, the car sutterd from a standstill and was fine after that. But there was a blink indicating a hallsensor problem in the motor. Strange enough :eh?:, but tried a different motor. Same problem only worse, the car wouldn't drive from a standstill at all, and needed a push start.

Tried resetting the throttle positions, and after that the car would launch good just once. After that..........., same problem again :confused:

I can still use it sensorless but it's a really bad sensorless ESC respons wise

Tried an old GTB and everything was fine with both motors.

So if your considering getting one of these.... :rolleyes:

[fidspeed]

see if you can update to latest hw software it is supposed to help stop speedos dropping into blinky mode

both mine are updated and are ok but i dont push them hard


regards dave

[Getpip]

Mine turned up .. powered it up and all seems well .. even the fan works!

Pics .. http://www.pipskiracing.blogspot.com/2011/11/bullistorm-esc-bargain-or-bt.html

[cigbunt]

Received mine took about 5weeks.

Not tested it properly but it works... :thumbsup:

The fan it comes with is poor compared to the speed passion! When you turn the fan upside down it doesn't have enough power to turn.. :thumbdown:

[andyroooo]

Had mine running a 6.5 in a Cougar SV in unsensored mode with no issues what so ever for a while now. Will probably put it in a Losi 22T when that arrives!!

[Timee80]

Mine arrived. Everything appears fine but has no drive to the motor. The motor works fine on another Speedo so its not that. Solder connections are good too. Not sure what else to try.
Looks like going in the bin. its only a bargain if it works!

[OneKiwi]

Mine arrived. Everything appears fine but has no drive to the motor. The motor works fine on another Speedo so its not that. Solder connections are good too. Not sure what else to try.
Looks like going in the bin. its only a bargain if it works!


YOu have lights flashing? servo working? Sensor cable in? Lipo charged? Fan working?
Send it to me if your thinking of bining it

[Timee80]

I have all of the above. what else would you suggest?

[OneKiwi]

reset and then rebind your radio then rebind the esc and RX

[Timee80]

Done that. The servo works fine and the lights indicate when throttle and brakes are being applied. I'm stumped.

[andyroooo]

Seems like they don't have any form of quality control going on!!!! Once it's assembled its going out the door regardless........your lucky if you get a good one??!!

[cigbunt]

Check the motor wires are on the right terminals a,b,c..


I'll have it if you bin it :thumbsup:

[adon30]

If you have a multimeter also check there are no shorts between the connections.
Also check the wire is the correct way round into the receiver. Easily done ;)

[dev]

I bought one of these ESCs, but before powering up I took it all apart and checked the assembly.

The PCB itself looks fine, which is to be expected if this is a clone of the Hobbywing design, but the assembly is terrible. I spent a few hours tidying up bits, putting components back on the pcb (one of the 0402 resistors was on sideways!) and cleaning the flux off to try and improve it.

The funny part is that on my one they have scrubbed the markings off a couple of the ICs, so are they worried that people are going to copy this copy??!

Honestly is it worth it? If it works, probably. If it doesn't you'd have been better off buying a genuine one rather than fixing it (unless you have experience with SMT rework). Either way without the extra work done on it, I doubt it is going to be the most reliable bit of electronics, one hard impact could potentially dislodge a component.

Having said all that I'm sure lots of people are using them without any problems.

[OneKiwi]

I had a 60A in my 2wd with a 8.5t and it wouldn't give the power on the straight I wanted, I have now gotten my 120A back from being replaced, Im going to try that one again, I didn't have power problems with that one.

[Getpip]

I eventually got round to putting one in a buggy ...

http://pipskiracing.blogspot.com/2012/01/bullistorm-esc-update-test.html

So far so good! :thumbsup:

[almunro]

Done that. The servo works fine and the lights indicate when throttle and brakes are being applied. I'm stumped.

Did you get this sorted out? Find out what was going wrong with it?

Alex

[qatmix]

Hi guys

I have one of the 120a versions and it runs fine, I decided to update the firmware so got a Hobbywing box but it doesn't recognise the esc.

I plugged it into my sp 2.0 and it works, is it a firmware issue with the box?