Favorite National Track

[tony12795]

The UK National venues are soon to be released.

I am trying to get a general feeling to what the racers feel is their ideal track.

(Should have said 10th Electric tracks)

Tony

[Nas]

Slough (rwmcc) is my favorite track,and most of the big events are held there. Proline international,SRS etc.

They also organize everything very well.

[tony12795]

Oops spelt Oswestry wrong.....

Should be Ozfest :-)

Thanks Neil

@ NSASIR never been there mate. Sounds good though.

[matdodd]

Tough one mate for me its Kiddy/Southport I think there both amazing venues :thumbsup:

[bigred5765]

rhr and southport

[racingdwarf]

never used my tenth a a good track, 8th slough

[Smartalec]

Should be very interesting to find out what the racers want and what we actually get :)

[tony12795]

Intresting, Southport in the lead as of the 12th dec, but its early days yet lets wait for the South of the country to get online.

@ Smartarse.... (Alex) :woot:

I agree, not sure when the dates are released but I agree I hope the BRCA have taken the comments from last year and what racers want looking at the poll so far.

T

[Jamie B4]

Same as Doddy = Kiddy for results but southport for package ie atmosphere, location, ameneties, etc - just weather susceptable

[Big G]

This year was my 1st visit to a lot of tracks as it was my 1st year of doing the national tracks.

Southport was a good track, despite giving me my worst result of the series haha, but the bog that appeared due to the weather was a nightmare.

Talywain was Talywain. Not sure if I've ever been there in the dry lol

Kiddy was brilliant as always. Tony, Tom and all the others that helped get it revamped ready for the national really paid off.

[tony12795]

Yeah, I guess you need a bit of look with the weather where ever you go.

All the events have something special to offer.

T

[Big G]

Southport was pretty dry, but the field was a bog because of previous rain :(

[MikePimlott]

STOTFOLD STOTFOLD STOTFOLD

Love going there

[Smartalec]

Intresting, Southport in the lead as of the 12th dec, but its early days yet lets wait for the South of the country to get online.

@ Smartarse.... (Alex) :woot:

I agree, not sure when the dates are released but I agree I hope the BRCA have taken the comments from last year and what racers want looking at the poll so far.

T
Amazingly no votes as yet for Talydrain which is ever so strange as it's been forced on us for the last 4 years :lol:

[tony12795]

Traitor LOL!!! think your joining the mid-south next year :o

Yeah I like Stotfold, but not my favorite. Thats why I started the poll, to see what RACERS want.

Tony

STOTFOLD STOTFOLD STOTFOLD

Love going there

[tony12795]

double post. sorry

Amazingly no votes as yet for Talydrain which is ever so strange as it's been forced on us for the last 4 years :lol:

[R666REW]

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[john333]

Broxtowes new track is very good......

[The Hobbymaster]

Eden Park, top class truck, very technical, well run meeting and great people. Job done !!! Get's my vote

[MikePimlott]

Eden Park, top class truck, very technical, well run meeting and great people. Job done !!! Get's my vote

Oh FFS i forgot about Eden Park because they didnt have a National last year :mad:

But they have a Pub :thumbsup: lets go there again.

Tony, i want to make more than one vote :lol:

[pugboy]

Oh FFS i forgot about Eden Park because they didnt have a National last year :mad:

But they have a Pub :thumbsup: lets go there again.

Tony, i want to make more than one vote :lol:

Mike, I don't think Tony's question was "Which track is best for Mike drinks-Pimms-alot to get his fix!:D

[MikePimlott]

Mike, I don't think Tony's question was "Which track is best for Mike drinks-Pimms-alot to get his fix!:D

50% of a great national venue is made up of amenaties.

Mainly a pub :thumbsup: wit proper beer like

OR a marquee with a band a bar and Stu Evans raving like a trooper!! GO RHR oople race

[Smartalec]

The first priority when choosing a track for a national should be is the track good enough. There were two tracks last year that were not so they shouldn't have got past go, but they did because they apparently ticked all the other boxes. Hopefully, this time it will be different :)

[James]

but they did because they apparently ticked all the other boxes, this time it will be different

Last year the tracks were chosen by committee, this year its changed and there are boxes to tick for facilities etc so its actually the other way round :woot:

[tony12795]

RHRW is a class meeting and the marquee is amazing, last time I went there about two months ago the straight was like racing on long carpet, so if they get a National I hope they sort that out. But the best thing about RHRW is the curry house down the road and the pubs. The fact Boothy comes and hates curry and always has CHICKEN AND CHIPS!!!! Oh and the year before Moss and Jonsey had a full meal (including popadoms) and beer and left before the bill was paid, was okay though they left a £10 each!!!

I like EP too, the track I actual like not sure about the travelling 4/5 hours its a long time in a car with Doddy. But I guess it’s the same for people down south coming up north to Southport!! One thing that I don’t like (maybe it’s a London thing) is having to pay to put a tent in the field, can understand a caravan but a tent!!

[James]

Of course you can all see this for yourself but after 1000 views, according to this poll this years national tracks should be:

RHR
Southport
Stotfold : Kidderminster
Eden Park
Silverstone

Oswestry / Somewhere Else for F2's F345's

We should see what the actual tracks are fairly soon :thumbsup:

[tony12795]

Hay up J,

Well if you look at the poll with the last few years nationals in, I think the racers should have a say. I understand that there are other things that need to be considered, like facilities etc etc.....

Not really sure why races don’t fill a form in online at the end of season and we mark each event, let say 1 to 10 (1 being the favourite best event) which helps the BRCA choose.

T


Last year the tracks were chosen by committee, this year its changed and there are boxes to tick for facilities etc so its actually the other way round :woot:

[TheReferee]

Last year the tracks were chosen by committee, this year its changed and there are boxes to tick for facilities etc so its actually the other way round :woot:

that was the plan, unfortunately the tracks didn't bother to complete the requested info, so they were chosen by the committee again, it should also be pointed out that of the 9 people voting 5 were national drivers including 3 F1's

[stuartw]

Can someone explain to me why Oswestry is "low" on the poll, but at the closing date for entries on the last 2 years is the most popular??
It doesnt make sense.

[blue_pinky]

I did wonder that too...it's very popular amongst racers once the series is running...the grass really levels the field so there is no home advantage...and the event as a whole is really very liked by people from what I've seen, but not necessarily just because of the track itself...if you see what I mean?

The question made me think track design...so I voted for my personal fav on that basis, which is RHR...despite loving the Oswestry national as a great racing event!

I also wondered if it might just be that as a track it only gets raced on once a year at the national...whereas the other tracks are all purpose built permanent venues where the tracks themselves are all more developed shape wise, and people run at those for other events, club meetings, regionals, etc, etc.

I personally would be disappointed if Oswestry didn't get a national!

[The Hobbymaster]

The first priority when choosing a track for a national should be is the track good enough. There were two tracks last year that were not so they shouldn't have got past go, but they did because they apparently ticked all the other boxes. Hopefully, this time it will be different :)

It would be nice to see a national back a Eden Park, The Losi Super Cup meeting at Eden was top class!

[tony12795]

IMO and this is not a dig.....

Ozfest is a good meeting and in the years gone by I have helped build the track, I was even a member of the club for years. But with racing now in the north-west I don't really get chance to go much.

The track is just not as good as Southport, EPRW, RHRW, Silverstone and others. Yes you get a layout that no one else has raced on, but its just not as good and National's should be the very very best in the country and I think the poll shows this.

T

[tony12795]

This is my point to the poll, what if RHRW or Southport don't get a national there both first and second voted openly by the racers and oople members.

I did wonder that too...it's very popular amongst racers once the series is running...the grass really levels the field so there is no home advantage...and the event as a whole is really very liked by people from what I've seen, but not necessarily just because of the track itself...if you see what I mean?

The question made me think track design...so I voted for my personal fav on that basis, which is RHR...despite loving the Oswestry national as a great racing event!

I also wondered if it might just be that as a track it only gets raced on once a year at the national...whereas the other tracks are all purpose built permanent venues where the tracks themselves are all more developed shape wise, and people run at those for other events, club meetings, regionals, etc, etc.

I personally would be disappointed if Oswestry didn't get a national!

[tony12795]

Can it be made public who was voting, can I find that information anywhere John ? I guess it will be made public soon with the venues and dates.

Also John if tracks did not fill information in that is required by the BRCA, why would they even be considered for National?

9 people does not seem many people if there are 8 events.

that was the plan, unfortunately the tracks didn't bother to complete the requested info, so they were chosen by the committee again, it should also be pointed out that of the 9 people voting 5 were national drivers including 3 F1's

[Chrislong]

Can it be made public who was voting, can I find that information anywhere John ?

I guess it will be made public soon with the venues and dates.

If you click on the number of votes to the right, it changes the display to which oOple member names have voted.

[tony12795]

The actual National votes mate not what racers want and ooplers want.

:blush:

If you click on the number of votes to the right, it changes the display to which oOple member names have voted.

[Chrislong]

Tony, what would be a more interesting vote, would be which tracks people don't want to go to/least favourite. Would eliminate the trend of loyalty voting for most favourite.

[Jamie B4]

Tony,

Think you hit the nail on the head - think osfest as a whole is great with facilities, space, entertainment etc. But I usually do very poor as its all on the day whereas southport hold regular meetings on a national track that allow you to practice and try things. All the other national tracks allow you to do this and although the track is altered you do get to know what the surface etc is like

[Chrislong]

The actual National votes mate not what racers want and ooplers want.

:blush:

Ooops, understood mate. :lol:

[tony12795]

Love you chris :wub

Agreed.

Tony, what would be a more interesting vote, would be which tracks people don't want to go to/least favourite. Would eliminate the trend of loyalty voting for most favourite.

[RogerM]

Kidderminster :D

Then again I have still to experience RHRW but heard lots of good things about it.

[James]

Can someone explain to me why Oswestry is "low" on the poll, but at the closing date for entries on the last 2 years is the most popular??
It doesnt make sense.

I think its just down to the nature of the question asked in the poll Stuart -
"favourite national track" / "I am trying to get a general feeling to what the racers feel is their ideal track"

If the question was to put what are you top 3 in order (for example) choices for national venues i think the results could be different?

[TheReferee]

Can it be made public who was voting, can I find that information anywhere John ? I guess it will be made public soon with the venues and dates.

Also John if tracks did not fill information in that is required by the BRCA, why would they even be considered for National?

9 people does not seem many people if there are 8 events.

Tony
if we did not consider the tracks that did not supply the info then the national series would have consisted of two tracks.

the eight voting members who turned up were
drivers rep
referee
timekeeper
mid south rep
north east rep
south east rep
Pro
mid east rep

which was eight not nine my apologies, the chairman also gets a vote but only in the event of a tie i think.


the are a couple of problems with your poll, firstly its a week too late, and secondly it doesn't differentiate between national and non national drivers, i know your user name and who you are therefor i know you are a national driver but smithy1234 could be anyone, 1/8 or 1/10 onroad. do we count his preference?

[stuartw]

Tony
if we did not consider the tracks that did not supply the info then the national series would have consisted of two tracks.

the eight voting members who turned up were
drivers rep
referee
timekeeper
mid south rep
north east rep
south east rep
Pro
mid east rep

which was eight not nine my apologies, the chairman also gets a vote but only in the event of a tie i think.


the are a couple of problems with your poll, firstly its a week too late, and secondly it doesn't differentiate between national and non national drivers, i know your user name and who you are therefor i know you are a national driver but smithy1234 could be anyone, 1/8 or 1/10 onroad. do we count his preference?

You missed the Welsh rep. So you were correct in stating 9.

[tony12795]

John, I understand what you’re saying about the info that must be provided for the BRCA by the clubs, so it should be common sense if something trivial like the number for toilets has been missed that can be over looked, but let’s say that the club missies the dates that they can do. Then that’s very important information for the BRCA and should not be considered for a national yeah??

If I was bidding for the Olympics for the UK and my paper work was wrong or missing what would happen?? (I realise national events are not that big)

It’s not going to be the most accurate poll mate your right and maybe this should have been done a few weeks ago. But it still makes people think from the comments to which SHOULD get events.

As it is know this is the only way I can vote.

So no one was there from the North West??

Tony
if we did not consider the tracks that did not supply the info then the national series would have consisted of two tracks.

the eight voting members who turned up were
drivers rep
referee
timekeeper
mid south rep
north east rep
south east rep
Pro
mid east rep

which was eight not nine my apologies, the chairman also gets a vote but only in the event of a tie i think.


the are a couple of problems with your poll, firstly its a week too late, and secondly it doesn't differentiate between national and non national drivers, i know your user name and who you are therefor i know you are a national driver but smithy1234 could be anyone, 1/8 or 1/10 onroad. do we count his preference?

[spenner]

Mr Parr,

I am assuming you know the national venues ? as i can read between the lines of where this poll is going.
I am all for drivers having a say in national selection etc but we will never please everyone, this was my first year involved with the BRCA etc and i have to say that over the last 3 meetings it was looked into very deeply with the way national tracks are selected (John C put in plenty of effort with a good idea)

Lets not forget we had this exact same thing last year when EPR wasn't selected, drivers are never going to be happy with all selections for one thing or another.

Best thing we can do is thing of some ideas of how national venue selections can be changed/improved.... (drivers choosing is never going to work) but it could help towards voting...

Regards

John

[tony12795]

John S,

I have no idea what Nationals were going to get, how could I they have not been released. I guess you could tell us??

But I can see from the poll which we should get (as John C says the poll is not 100% correct)

Yes mate, your 100% right racers should not vote, BUT should have an input and at the minute, this is the only way I can have an input.

(I would have voted for EPR last year If could off as I like their track)

So I am.

[Stu]

One thing that I don’t like (maybe it’s a London thing) is having to pay to put a tent in the field, can understand a caravan but a tent!!

Why a caravan if not a tent?
I've never quite understood it?

The poll does not mean much, in a general way it shows the clubs that have lots of active oOple forum users.
The multiple choice thing does not help.

It's a bit of fun that should not be taken seriously.
I'm absolutely sure that the comitee will choose what is best for the series.

I voted for Talywain, Southport and Coventry, I'd like to be going there. Coventry 'cos I've never been and the other two have ace local pubs.

[mattybucks]

Most probable reason would be because the landowner charges more for a two day event with people camping overnight.

[Stu]

Most probable reason would be because the landowner charges more for a two day event with people camping overnight.

Charge for camping?
I understand that some venues have landowner's rules, but I still don't understand the logic behind the rules.
Why is someone sleeping in a caravan different from someone sleeping in a tent?

[WHITTLER555]

££££

[James]

I/We charge an extortionate £2/night per caravans at RHR and £1/night per tent Not per person - the reason the charge is a little more for caravans is because they may use their own toilets but the first thing caravanners do is fill up their water unit from our tap so they still use the water! Plus we have a chemical toilet disposal point for use by caravanners..

Its a nominal fee but it all helps towards taking away litter, mowing the grass, bog roll, soap, hand towels, cutting the hedges, water, sewage, all that shizzle, the list goes on! We don't take into account the value of the site or buildings etc If you added it up and especially took into account the value of the land at EPR its probably not unreasonable as they need to make a return from their assets. Just speculating!

[Northy]

Coventry 'cos I've never been and the other two have ace local pubs.

You have bell end, I slept in your tent......

G

[Stu]

At Coventry, really? What event?

[Stu]

I/We charge an extortionate £2/night per caravans at RHR and £1/night per tent Not per person!

How much for a weeks holiday boss, call it £10?

[emzy]

I always loved Batley - I liked the mix of surfaces. I know it's unfortunately not really an option for Nationals anymore, but we still go there for NE regionals and I still really enjoy racing there.

Behind that - RHR. I love the track, but I also love the entire facility. I know there were comments about sand etc. last year, but I've always enjoyed racing there and look forward to going there for Nationals / Regionals / oOple races etc.

[Northy]

At Coventry, really? What event?

E of S finals, F3's maybe? We slept in your tent on the way down to picking our caravan up. ;)

[burgie]

Southport charge £10 for staying in Caravans in Victoria Park because its a stipulation of our use of the Park with the Council....it goes towards "repairing the ground" allegedly.

[pugboy]

The ground is the only issue at Southport, cause the water level is so high on it in periods of heavy rain. It could be dealt with with some land drainage but it isn't cheap and probably not high on the Council's agenda. I know they have sorted it in other parts of the park where they have the showground. As long as Damien keeps his Landy then there's no problem! He had to tow that ice cream van out at least twice last year!

Doesn't really detract from the venue though, Southport rocks! (not that I'm biased or anything)

[tony12795]

Ha ha I am intrigued, where Gaz Stanton would feel is his ideal track?

Not supported his dad with Ozfest the track he helps to build or his local regional event kiddy.

Him mm I wonder??? Lol!

[tony12795]

Alright Boss....

May I ask what actual meetings you picked at the BRCA meeting?

Tony

Why a caravan if not a tent?
I've never quite understood it?

The poll does not mean much, in a general way it shows the clubs that have lots of active oOple forum users.
The multiple choice thing does not help.

It's a bit of fun that should not be taken seriously.
I'm absolutely sure that the comitee will choose what is best for the series.

I voted for Talywain, Southport and Coventry, I'd like to be going there. Coventry 'cos I've never been and the other two have ace local pubs.

[racingdwarf]

At Coventry, really? What event?

LOL coventy has the club house bar open, you didn't even need to find a close pub...thats why you can't remember:lol:.must have been a heavy night and a hazey day

[Stu]

Ah, the Rugby place? Next to the airport? Yes I may remember actually.

[Northy]

Ah, the Rugby place? Next to the airport? Yes I may remember actually.

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssss *rolls eyes*

[Stu]

Bum-boy.

[Northy]

Bum-lord

[Gaz_Stanton]

Ha ha I am intrigued, where Gaz Stanton would feel is his ideal track?

Not supported his dad with Ozfest the track he helps to build or his local regional event kiddy.

Him mm I wonder??? Lol!

If it's just a poll about how many people have allegiances to the various tracks then it's pointless. :thumbdown:

Really like Oswestry as an event. Don't really enjoy the track until the grass comes off it.

Not a fan of astroturf so my ideal track would be Tiverton or a much larger PDA. :thumbsup:

[mattybucks]

If it's just a poll about how many people have allegiances to the various tracks then it's pointless. :thumbdown:

Really like Oswestry as an event. Don't really enjoy the track until the grass comes off it.

Not a fan of astroturf so my ideal track would be Tiverton or a much larger PDA. :thumbsup:

A much larger PDA would be exspensive. I don't think I could be done for a £10 race fee, and how far would people travel to such a track?

[tony12795]

True and a fare comment mate.
If it's just a poll about how many people have allegiances to the various tracks then it's pointless. :thumbdown:

Really like Oswestry as an event. Don't really enjoy the track until the grass comes off it.

Not a fan of astroturf so my ideal track would be Tiverton or a much larger PDA. :thumbsup:

[Stu]

Alright Boss....

May I ask what actual meetings you picked at the BRCA meeting?

Tony

I was pushing for HRC, Tiverton and Bury Metro.

[WHITTLER555]

Yeah, pushing from 100 miles away - HA!HA!HA!!

[RudeTony]

I was pushing for HRC, Tiverton and Bury Metro.


LOL - HRC - they were the days :)
They took away the track to build offices and never ever did - the track is still there under under all the grass and weeds

[Smartalec]

LOL - HRC - they were the days :)
They took away the track to build offices and never ever did - the track is still there under under all the grass and weeds

Well get on and uncover it you old git :lol::wub

If you'd have applied for a national this year you would probably have got one, at least the track has been proven :lol:

[Smartalec]

To any of the nine voters:
Can I ask how you decided that each venue was suitable? I would imagine that each of the venues would have to have held a large event (BRCA) in the past to prove itself or would that not matter? :confused:

[chuckie stella]

To any of the nine voters:
Can I ask how you decided that each venue was suitable? I would imagine that each of the venues would have to have held a large event (BRCA) in the past to prove itself or would that not matter? :confused:

Alec, I think it's based on the 'CLUBS' having proved themselves!

[RudeTony]

Alec, I think it's based on the 'CLUBS' having proved themselves!

And the organisers having proven track records :)

[TheReferee]

To any of the nine voters:
Can I ask how you decided that each venue was suitable? I would imagine that each of the venues would have to have held a large event (BRCA) in the past to prove itself or would that not matter? :confused:
Each application is judged on its individual merits, there are lots of things taken into consideration, having not held a large meeting is not a "stopper".

for example if Tony Evdoka applied for a national at a new track yet to be built his previous track record of organising race meetings would of course be taken into account.

[Smartalec]

Each application is judged on its individual merits, there are lots of things taken into consideration, having not held a large meeting is not a "stopper".

for example if Tony Evdoka applied for a national at a new track yet to be built his previous track record of organising race meetings would of course be taken into account.

Thanks for the response John :thumbsup:

[tony12795]

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[mattybucks]

Each application is judged on its individual merits, there are lots of things taken into consideration, having not held a large meeting is not a "stopper".

for example if Tony Evdoka applied for a national at a new track yet to be built his previous track record of organising race meetings would of course be taken into account.


That seem fair enough. Would this also be the same process for the regional applications this year?

I have been running club nights and a winter series (indoor off raod), and the aim is apply for a regional this year. I have secured the same venue as I use for the winter series, however the track will be outdoor and the surface will be grass.

[RudeTony]

Gents - I am sure there are many many factors to be considered....
Obviously you guys know the venues hence all this talk.
Until public I personally cannot make any comments as i have no idea what you are all arguing about

[tony12795]

Well, I am going of what the Racers & Ooplers want (as of 16th Dec).......

(Which is not 100% accurate)

1 RHRW
2 Southport
3 Kiddy
4 EPRW
5 Stotfold
6 Silverstone

@ RT Not arguing buddy, this is just a Poll on what is Racers & Ooplers find their Ideal track and for me to vote.

T

[RudeTony]

Well, I am going of what the Racers & Ooplers want (as of 16th Dec).......

(Which is not 100% accurate)

1 RHRW
2 Southport
3 Kiddy
4 EPRW
5 Stotfold
6 Silverstone

@ RT Not arguing buddy, this is just a Poll on what is Racers & Ooplers find their Ideal track and for me to vote.



T
I am confused now - is that was was voted in this year??

[mattybucks]

Gents - I am sure there are many many factors to be considered....
Obviously you guys know the venues hence all this talk.
Until public I personally cannot make any comments as i have no idea what you are all arguing about


It seems that the venue locations have been leaked which is a bit unfair in your a club waiting to hear if you have a national, (i was told that the clubs are being notified today) however for all we know the leaked venue list maybe incorrect, we will have to see.

If the venue list is correct and Silverstone arena have a national i'm sure it will be a great event. Area 51 looks like it's going to be an amazing event, bigger than Petit this year. The guys also have sourced a top notch venue at Moulton.

I'm assuming if they are holding a national it will be in the indoor horse arena, which is probably why people are thinking that the track's not be used before, and then you have the complication of what tyres work, anyway enough speculation lets wait for the offical list, and if the Silverstone lads do get a national I think it's well deserved.

[TheReferee]

I am confused now - is that was was voted in this year??

No it isn't

[GRIFF55]

What was then john:woot: ( I know, won't be long till we find out)
Has tally got one?

[Northy]

It seems that the venue locations have been leaked which is a bit unfair in your a club waiting to hear if you have a national, (i was told that the clubs are being notified today) however for all we know the leaked venue list maybe incorrect, we will have to see.

The clubs have to know before the official release, they have to 100% confirm the date before the entry form goes up.

Won't be long.

[mattybucks]

The clubs have to know before the official release, they have to 100% confirm the date before the entry form goes up.

Won't be long.

So is the leaked list provisionally correct?

[Northy]

I don't know, I haven't seen a leaked list..... :confused:

[Gonky]

I think people are confusing the poll results from this thread with the actual event selections which are yet to be announced!


Well, I am going of what the Racers & Ooplers want (as of 16th Dec).......

(Which is not 100% accurate)

1 RHRW
2 Southport
3 Kiddy
4 EPRW
5 Stotfold
6 Silverstone

[mattybucks]

I think people are confusing the poll results from this thread with the actual event selections which are yet to be announced!

The list was posted mate.

[TheReferee]

The list was posted mate.
where?

[mattybucks]

where?

On this very site.

[RudeTony]

The officials normally get it right with some rare exceptions so I am not worried where the events are.
Apart from 1 and the whole world spoke about that last time round.#

The poll Tony unfortunately cannot be accurate because there might lets say no one from Wales voting or too many from Southport or or or and it can go on like that mate....
An on line vote i have already said would be good but not as open as you have it here.
I can see people voting that have never done a National for example and like I said many other factors - sorry

[tony12795]

Thats this poll not the actual events..

Well, I am going of what the Racers & Ooplers want (as of 16th Dec).......

(Which is not 100% accurate)

1 RHRW
2 Southport
3 Kiddy
4 EPRW
5 Stotfold
6 Silverstone

@ RT Not arguing buddy, this is just a Poll on what is Racers & Ooplers find their Ideal track and for me to vote.

T

[tony12795]

Yeah, you right mate not 100% accurate if you look back we have discussed this.

I recon more users are at Nationals than you think.

The officials normally get it right with some rare exceptions so I am not worried where the events are.
Apart from 1 and the whole world spoke about that last time round.#

The poll Tony unfortunately cannot be accurate because there might lets say no one from Wales voting or too many from Southport or or or and it can go on like that mate....
An on line vote i have already said would be good but not as open as you have it here.
I can see people voting that have never done a National for example and like I said many other factors - sorry

[mattybucks]

So far we have on the BRCA website

Stotfold 14/15 April
RHR 12/13 May
EPR 02/03 June
Oswestry 30 June/01 July

[tony12795]

Dates are up.

No North West National, Southport

83% of Nationals are Mid/South

http://www.brca.org/?q=sections/subsections/pages/2012-or-national-entry-form/13872

[col300]

What a joke! :thumbdown:

Didn't the Northwest have the largest number of competitors for regionals this year?

Where's the "Silverstone Arena"?:confused:

[burgie]

Southport have the F3/F4/F5 finals.....