New Schumacher on the block [Archive]

Frecklychimp

11-04-2012, 03:01 PM

Is there even a 2s 1/12 class :woot::woot:

Don't think so... not an on road fan tbh but did get a mardave a while back as i live near Ardent, the guys that run it are ace and it was to keep my thumbs loosened and hopefully tidy my buggy lines up a bit..

had it for 3 weeks cos the politics were horrendous... but tried my 7.4V lipo saddles when i got bored with trundling around the track... even with the G2 motor it was 1/12 speed if not faster and if it had been allowed i would have probably stuck with it :thumbsup:

Chequered Flag Racing

11-04-2012, 03:08 PM

2s .... Is there even a 2s 1/12 class :woot::woot:

To be discussed at 12th EGM the end of this month

CAT3K

11-04-2012, 03:22 PM

That's a fantastic looking bit of kit for under £100. Looks tight for the electrics though?

Can't wait to buy one :thumbsup:

Yachty

11-04-2012, 05:00 PM

It looks amazing value lots of ideas here back to the Schumacher routes of pan cars in the way the rear end and motor is mounted. Great to see them trying to revitisle this area of the sport.

stegger

11-04-2012, 05:07 PM

I had my grubby little hands on this last week and it's very nice and there will be a diff option coming out for it also but not yet !
The roll stiffness can be adjusted by moving the rear springs inward or outward via the 6 points on the rear. The springs are in the inner most points in the picture. :thumbsup:

tisher

11-04-2012, 05:39 PM

if your going to buy one of these you may as well just race pan cars:thumbdown:
leave mardave standard thats what makes it great:D

Frecklychimp

11-04-2012, 06:05 PM

It is a pan car!

it's also a 1/12th saloon.

It's not a Mardave!

Value for money wise this wins hands down...

hope its a single make Superstox class, preferably not linked to the existing series/championships

hope there will just be a motor wind limit or cheap control motor at worst and allow any modifications/tyres/bodies/aftermarket bits etc etc for the class, maybe 1s and 2s classes if needed and none of the other B.S politics and stupid monopoly on sales for anything connected type rules as with existing racing of similar types.

tbh i only want one for indoor winter club racing and playing down at Ardent during their open practice days... would have kept the Mardave if id realised i could run it at Broxtowe indoors during winter.

tisher

11-04-2012, 06:23 PM

looks more like a mardave rip off to me

I think a proper pan car would kane this sorry but i will stick to my stock dave thanks

Frecklychimp

11-04-2012, 06:27 PM

have fun with it matey,

as long as you enjoy it then great :thumbsup:

Garry

11-04-2012, 07:43 PM

if your going to buy one of these you may as well just race pan cars:thumbdown:
leave mardave standard thats what makes it great:D

You haven't seen a Mardave recently then :lol:

Alloy, carbon, titanium, all sorts of adjustments, and thats on the new Mardave V12VRXcec.

http://www.rc-news.de/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Mardave-V12VRXcec-1-630x347.jpg

http://www.rc-news.de/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Mardave-V12VRXcec-2.jpg

And thats a tenner more than the SupaStox.

knighthawk

11-04-2012, 07:51 PM

I really Like the look of this !
A proper designed car

Sold all my mardave's as they were crap
Between the plastics braking and the metal bending the car was never the same for two races, and don't get me started on the politics of the class !

( Role on the abuse, lol !!!!! )

discothesnake

11-04-2012, 07:54 PM

The supastox looks much better value.

terry.sc

11-04-2012, 07:59 PM

I
hope its a single make Superstox class, preferably not linked to the existing series/championships

The only way this would ever be allowed in the oval classes is if the drivers vote it in, oval racing will remain a Mardave/Kamtec monopoly for some time.

It's aimed at the Mardave circuit racing class, which is currently run with much more expensive Mardave V12VRXcec cars (http://www.mardave.co.uk/rc-car-kits/v12vrxce-v12vrxce-circuit-edition-kit-1.html) with carbon chassis and alloy rear pods and lexan Lotus GT or Mazda 6 bodies. I wouldn't class those as traditional Mardaves either.

There are fundamental differences that mean this isn't and will never be a pan car.

The BRCA is currently trying to sort out rules for a new GT12 class as a support class for 1/12th to replace the Mardaves only class they ran last year. The draft rules are for 1S lipo with a 13.5 motor. There is nothing in the proposed rules stopping anyone fitting the Schumacher 4 link rear suspension on a Mardave V12 either.

Discussion is going on over on Racechat http://rcracechat.com/vb/showthread.php?65035-Draft-GT12-Rules-for-EGM-your-comments-please

Dave Dodd

11-04-2012, 08:10 PM

2s chassis to beat the M06 :thumbsup:

1s chassis to keep the stock car clan happy :D

tisher

11-04-2012, 08:14 PM

2s chassis to beat the M06 :thumbsup:

1s chassis to keep the stock car clan happy :D

and four cell nimh and g2s for proper racing:lol:

Col

11-04-2012, 08:15 PM

and four cell nimh and g2s for 1990's racing:lol:

edited that for you...

terry.sc

11-04-2012, 08:22 PM

and four cell nimh and g2s for proper racing:lol:
Well the Schumacher does have chassis slots for 4 cell.:thumbsup:

Frecklychimp

11-04-2012, 08:38 PM

edited that for you...

:thumbsup:

Even that new Mardave won't be a patch on the schuey

Oval racing may be fun but i prefer corners that go both ways...

The Schumacher is a car thats had some engineering and design put in.. based on similar principles but done to a standard to be proud of.... the other brand is only a very recent makeover on a car originally knocked up in a shed too many years ago from a B&Q/Wilko's sale bin with an old letterbox for a chassis :woot:

I'd be proud of taking the body of that Schumacher... enough said!

Mr Dodd, i'm game mate for running one of these at yours next winter... lets show the Mini's how its done! :thumbsup:

I don't care about the Mardave competition thing cos i wouldn't buy another or race at a specific meeting with them again either... the politics and attitudes that are openly accessible on any forum they are not banned from are not why i race and grew very thin after a couple of weeks of trying to get into the 'scene'

The car is also very expensive or what you get, whether its been around since the stone age or not, the quality is terrible and in my experience there were parts missing and not up to scratch to be usuable in the kit, the aftersales service consisted of Mardave blaming the retailer for taking the parts from a sealed box and i was never offered the bits that were missing.... luckily B&Q had plenty of wood screws or sal at the time!

Nice Work Schumacher, can't wait to get hold of one :thumbsup:

tisher

11-04-2012, 08:44 PM

edited that for you...

still some of the best fun and closest racing you can have:thumbsup:

Frecklychimp

11-04-2012, 09:07 PM

Agreed,

will be with this car too :thumbsup:

lardy37

11-04-2012, 09:45 PM

well never raced mardaves only got my first one last week even though its 30years old my 3year old daughter loves it but i must say that shumacher looks ace and i might get one just because of how nice it looks even if i never race it :thumbsup:

owen86

11-04-2012, 09:49 PM

The car looks fantastic! Had one in the shop a few times now as its been developed!

The rules our club is going to run to are pretty simple.

13.5t motor
1s
Any speedo, timing allowed as people will probably be using older equipment which won't support blinky!
Foam tyres, no additive
No diff at this time

coleman758

11-04-2012, 10:17 PM

No one can say its better than a Mardave yet, There is no results to prove it.

Apricot Slice

11-04-2012, 10:35 PM

I got a Mardave last year and had a bunch of fun racing it. Wont say anything bad about them, because they are far from bad.
What I will say is its great that there is some stonking competition.
I really hope Mardave can step up their game.
:)

coleman758

11-04-2012, 11:00 PM

tisher

12-04-2012, 06:45 AM

Thats what it needs!

There has been no competition to the mardave before... so lets see what happens.

on another note, its by no means a pan car. The wheels are the same size & fitment as the Mardave.

agreed with this :) I think this car has been developed to take on the new mardaves the only problem is when everyone starts racing these type of cars it will ruin the mardave racing as there will be far to many different set ups to keep the racing close. We have already seen this at our club with people running vrxs and 1s lipos I can only just keep up with them with my stock dave but thats only because I am a good driver. If i started running a shuey or vrx then I would just end up lapping people for fun. Then I might as well just run my buggy inside again.

mark christopher

12-04-2012, 07:54 AM

No one can say its better than a Mardave yet, There is no results to prove it.
only comaparrisons in lap times on same track layouts........ supose thats proof enough!!

andy110m

12-04-2012, 08:29 AM

Tisher - Thought you only started running Mardave because you didn't like being lapped when you raced buggy:p:lol:

I don't race mardave but I think the Schumacher car looks great and will provide some good competition. I do think the rules need to be looked at and standardised. In our club some cars are rapid fast and others dog slow with each driver claiming to be running to the proper rules. I think 13.5 on 1s would be good but not sure about no additive

Dave Dodd

12-04-2012, 10:16 AM

:thumbsup:

Mr Dodd, i'm game mate for running one of these at yours next winter... lets show the Mini's how its done! :thumbsup:

Nice Work Schumacher, can't wait to get hold of one :thumbsup:

Means i could get a ford anglia bodyshell :thumbsup::thumbsup:

tisher

12-04-2012, 03:45 PM

Tisher - Thought you only started running Mardave because you didn't like being lapped when you raced buggy:p:lol:

:woot::lol::lol:only when you where racing :lol: plus I was running a 7 year old zx5:thumbsup:I still have not had the chance to run the new 44.1 in anger yet waiting for you boys to turn up:lol:I am just enjoying the keeping up with the old boys with the daves at the moment until the weather gets better and I can get outside with the buggys

DCM

12-04-2012, 04:11 PM

More chassis=better competition=development, if you keep certain rules the same, like no additive, no diff, wheelbase and car width, then what is in the middle of it all and your thumbs will make you faster/slower. Considering this car is only £25 above the cost of a budget mardave, £10 more than a VRX CE, it isn't going to break the bank.....

With this car being in the works for a while, why do you think Mardave have been working hard....

mark christopher

12-04-2012, 07:31 PM

dont see why there can not be 2 classes, one "spec" and one more open, pretty sure the top level Mardave is faster than the entry one anyway?

Frecklychimp

12-04-2012, 08:49 PM

Means i could get a ford anglia bodyshell :thumbsup::thumbsup:

I like that one too... plus the retro Revolution type wheels!

sure theres still mk1 escort van shells, capris, mk2 granada estate, 3dr sierra cosworth and my personal favourite for proper racing... mk2 Transit Van!!!!

Just seen the Caravans you can get too... :woot:

Had the Starlet body on my Mardave and it looked dead cute... as it whipped past a proper 1/12th in practice at Ardent with 7.4V saddles! :thumbsup:

owen86

12-04-2012, 09:06 PM

Here's my bodyshell ready and waiting for the car to show up!!

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p198/ocalloway/8944fabb.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p198/ocalloway/33fc15d4.jpg

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p198/ocalloway/f3e73fe0.jpg

SlowOne

12-04-2012, 09:10 PM

It is proposed to have a stock kit class and an open class, see the link posted above for the full set of rules that are proposed.

The politics is not a Mardave thing, it is a 12th oval thing. It unfairly gets the 'Mardave' label because that is the only car they use, and the manufacturer gets tagged with a label it does not deserve. We've had no politics at all in the Circuit Racing events supporting the BRCA Nationals, and will be making sure it stays that way. Mardave and Chris Wilkinson have been really supportive of the series, and excellent partner for an inaugural season. Mardave is the original 12th car on which may of us cut our 12th teeth 30-odd years ago. It's good to see it still around and still attracting drivers.

Schumacher will put some competition into this class, and that usually makes it more attractive, not less. The posts above reflect that. As for their chassis being faster than the Mardave chassis, that's not proven. As there is more interest in the class there is more development and then racing gets closer as we all exploit as much from the tyre as we can. Racing gets closer, not further apart. Look at 12th Spec racing - five different chassis, a dozen different motors, scores of different cells and many different speedos - and less than 10% difference in laps across a field of 60 drivers!

I think the Schumacher car will generate a lot of ideas for racing various combinations of electrics. As long a people remember that BRCA Rules are for National competition, and that Clubs should find classes (as many as you like!) that get drivers in and racing, then this is going to inject some new life into RC. One variation is not better or worse than another - the best variation is the one that gets you more drivers at your Club. To get more drivers, simply have more variations!

Looking forward to seeing one in the flesh...

Dale Goodchild

13-04-2012, 12:03 PM

Looks like a good deal to be had here: http://www.broadgate4models.co.uk/schumacher-supastox-1-12th.html

:thumbsup:

RobChalmers

13-04-2012, 02:23 PM

I love the look of it - as an ex v12 racer it can only help to have more competition. But to be honest I don't think it'll make me sell up my Carisma 14th scale TC which to me is still beyond these two in terms of tech, adjustability, and I'll take a stab in the dark and say replacement parts price too. for a cheaper price

http://www.cmldistribution.co.uk/cml_product.php?menu=rc_cars&range=RACING&productId=0000005227&galleryImage=3#G

But I can't wait to try a superstox and have my mind changed.

racespecs

13-04-2012, 03:47 PM

You haven't seen a Mardave recently then :lol:

Alloy, carbon, titanium, all sorts of adjustments, and thats on the new Mardave V12VRXcec.

http://www.rc-news.de/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Mardave-V12VRXcec-1-630x347.jpg

http://www.rc-news.de/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Mardave-V12VRXcec-2.jpg

And thats a tenner more than the SupaStox.

Schumacher's new model doesn't look as the mardave

mark christopher

21-04-2012, 08:18 PM

The meeting voted for Construction Rules, and there were some small modifications. We added Rules to allow a 2S/21.5 class, and decided not to run that at Nationals. It gives the Clubs something to use. Many thanks to James Garrett for probably the best presentation of a rule proposal we have ever seen! Although there are valid reservations about using it at National level as an equivalent to the brushed and brushless motors with 4-cell and 1S respectively, we will be working (James and I, with others) to set something out that will give it legs for the Clubs.

We have two classes - GT12.1 based on kits costing less than £100 allowing hop-ups and home-made parts, and GT12.2 based on kits costing less than £100 with nothing allowed that is not in the kit, no carbon and no diffs. Drivers can choose which one they want to enter, but not both on the same race day.

GT12.1 kits can include carbon-fibre parts providing they are included in the kit and the kit costs less than £100. Diffs and other hop-ups are allowed, and parts can be modified and have home-made bits added. It's like GT12 racing on the same basis as 12th Circuit, with the exception of the kit price limit and that carbon parts are only those sold with the kit. GT12.2 kits must cost less than £100, contain no carbon parts or a diff, and have to be raced kit-standard without hop-ups or home-made parts - run what's in the box.

Both classes can use either G2-2010/4.8v or 13.5/1S combos at Nationals. Motors and batteries from the BRCA lists for 13.5/1S. There's a few bits of tidying up to do on individual dimensions, including wing sizes. Both GT12.1 and GT12.2 will run in the same heats, no separate heats for these classes at present. We've made provision for them to be split up when entries go over 20.

Bodyshells will be approved by the Committee and can be picked from a list. The old 12th body Rules will apply - must be a realistic representation of a GT car - and we will be working with all the body manufacturer's on that.

James Garrett will be the GT12 rep on the Committee. Give James and me a couple of weeks to straighten out all the Rules and then they will go up on the BRCA website.

Thank you everyone who has helped shape these Rules, and especially to those who attended the meeting today and worked so well together to get a set of Rules that were passed by good majorities in every case. This isn't the end, it is only the beginning. If we've got something really wrong, we'll put it right with the consent of the drivers during the season. As the years roll by, I feel sure that these Rules will evolve to reflect what the drivers want to do with new ideas and new technologies, as well as keeping the competition close and fun.

mr. ed

22-04-2012, 08:35 AM

I hope no-one minds me jumpimg in-here.
I have a vintage kyosho plazma mk2 with broken rear axle (5mm diameter). Before it broke i reworked everything to make m-chassis bodies fit.
Seeing the supastox and mardaves I picked up the plan to get it running again with a better/ or no diff and readily available weels.
Kawada gt300 would work I think and would let me use m-chassis wheels and tires I have a bunch of.
Any ideas on wheiter the mardave or shum parts would work and be cheaper in the end?
The plazma diff is geared but has a tension adjuster that's coming loose (possibly due to my own mods for the m-wheels).

mr. ed

22-04-2012, 10:47 AM

looks like the kawada m300 gt and yokomo m500gt use imperial sized bearings on the rear axle so... up to you guys for advise

Davelewis

22-04-2012, 12:04 PM

Chequered Flag Racing

22-04-2012, 12:28 PM

Just hoping I can find the Mold car Club. Iv been told it is still running but can I find it? - Hell no.

try these links

http://oople.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=71

http://brca.org/?q=user/5108

Frecklychimp

25-04-2012, 10:58 AM

stox217

25-04-2012, 11:07 AM

Tbh this car has lost the initial reason as to why people loved this class (Mardaves) because they were simple to get up and people loved to make there own custom hopups.

But i dont like the route were going down now as we have two cars in a class now which used to be a one make series where your thumbs used to do the talking now its set ups and whoever has the latest car ect.

Anyways mine is on order :thumbsup:

SlowOne

25-04-2012, 07:45 PM

Thumbs will always do the talking. Now we have the GT12 Circuit Rules that embody the design principles of the original Mardave car, you are looking at the only two designs that make sense.

12th Circuit drivers have always had a choice of cars based on its design principles (solid rear axle mainly) and there have been lots of designs based on the same principles. Nonetheless, the same drivers have always been at the top of the tree, almost whatever car they drive. David Spashett won three 12th IFMAR Worlds with three different cars, and Andy Griffiths has won a dozen or more British titles with four cars to my knowledge - it might be more.

This class is no different. There is a huge assumption here that the new Schumacher car (in all its glory - I've seen it too!! :thumbsup:) will be faster than the Mardave car, but that is an assumption that is untested. I suspect they will be closer than people think, and that Mardave will come back with some upgrades. Providing a tight rein is kept on the power source and the motors, it will still be the best thumbs that win the day.

Bring it on!! :D

kartdemon

25-04-2012, 07:55 PM

Supastox all the way. Mardave were fun while they lasted.

My fav shop will also be stocking the Supastox spares too. Means I will get bits next day rather next week!

Dave Dodd

25-04-2012, 08:55 PM

Saw the new Supastox demo car in the flesh yesterday,

it is very sweet, top quality bit of kit, couldn't fault any of it, can soon pick faults with most things but i'm definitely sold on one:thumbsup:

It is a cool looking chassis, took some pics of it last week, wouid defo like one to race at wbmcc.
just need to work out which motor to get, to race against the mo6's ? 2S chassis as have saddles etc ..
Most of the mo6 guys are running 10.5 and a couple are running 8.5 (tbh too fast, gr8 to watch)

Frecklychimp

25-04-2012, 09:07 PM

It is a cool looking chassis, took some pics of it last week, wouid defo like one to race at wbmcc.
just need to work out which motor to get, to race against the mo6's ? 2S chassis as have saddles etc ..
Most of the mo6 guys are running 10.5 and a couple are running 8.5 (tbh too fast, gr8 to watch)

I'm in for some WBMCC carpet racing with you mate :thumbsup:

10.5 in one of these with 2S would be insane and i'd say undriveable at a guess... standard mardave G2 silver can was quick enough!

probably a very mild brushless... or even brushed with the cheap Ansmann £7 stock motors would keep it lots of fast fun!

There are some rubber tyres coming out for them too :woot:

appeals to me a bit more as i can't be bothered anymore with trueing and glueing foams so it would be out of the packet built ones anyway!

Dave Dodd

26-04-2012, 03:38 PM

I'm in for some WBMCC carpet racing with you mate :thumbsup:

10.5 in one of these with 2S would be insane and i'd say undriveable at a guess... standard mardave G2 silver can was quick enough!

probably a very mild brushless... or even brushed with the cheap Ansmann £7 stock motors would keep it lots of fast fun!

There are some rubber tyres coming out for them too :woot:

appeals to me a bit more as i can't be bothered anymore with trueing and glueing foams so it would be out of the packet built ones anyway!

it'll be 2s with either a 17.5t or 21.5t motor :thumbsup:

hopefully i wont loose too much on the str8, which will be roughly 30mtrs :thumbsup:

are the rubber tyres the same as the m-chassis tyres they sell?

mark christopher

26-04-2012, 06:23 PM

ill be 1 s 13.5

rcdunk

26-04-2012, 07:38 PM

Iv just ordered two, one each for my son and I.
Cant wait.
Just hoping I can find the Mold car Club. Iv been told it is still running but can I find it? - Hell no.
I will take mine to Wirral or to Leeds to my sons area and race there.

Happy days.:lol:

hi dave yes mold is still running and I know that there are a few people thinking of going for the new supastox (I have already ordered mine ) and I am sure a few of the other guys have v dubs knocking about who will dust them off is the interest is there

drop me a pm for more info

Frecklychimp

26-04-2012, 11:14 PM

it'll be 2s with either a 17.5t or 21.5t motor :thumbsup:

hopefully i wont loose too much on the str8, which will be roughly 30mtrs :thumbsup:

are the rubber tyres the same as the m-chassis tyres they sell?

No mate, the tyres will be slightly smaller to fit the standard class size wheels... but you never know... Schuey may be kind and do them in the pit shimizu type pattern!

I'll go for the same sized motors to start with, they will definietly be rapid with that turn brushed in them and 2S... not that i believe i'm saying this for once... but maybe too much power tbh :woot: if they are too fast then we'll just have to put some caravans on them to slow them down a bit... think i'll be going for the mk2 transit body anyways... got to be done in the classic period Ford 'SuperVan' colours to match the speed of chassis :thumbsup:

can't wait, first time i've been excited about a Schumacher release since erm... the Fireblade 2000! :blush: and that didn't really work out!

Apricot Slice

27-04-2012, 10:18 PM

SupaStox arrived already!
Sure doesn't look like any kind of budget car. So many nicely made shiny bits! Perfectly clear instruction manual, Some tools, Servo saver, even some thread lock.

Boost

28-04-2012, 11:11 PM

VpfPEeZiaNE

:thumbsup:

Spoolio

28-04-2012, 11:35 PM

Hmmm, I sense more wallet bashing coming on. What're the wheelbase and track measurements? Can't find anything on the Schuey site and wondering if a Tamiya Mini shell would fit (210mm wheelbase).

knighthawk

29-04-2012, 08:53 AM

VpfPEeZiaNE

:thumbsup:
Excellent vid chap !!

mark christopher

29-04-2012, 07:15 PM

Hmmm, I sense more wallet bashing coming on. What're the wheelbase and track measurements? Can't find anything on the Schuey site and wondering if a Tamiya Mini shell would fit (210mm wheelbase).

:confused: scroll down on product info page

http://www.racing-cars.com/pp/Car_Showroom/SupaStox.html

wb 203mm

width 160mm

Spoolio

29-04-2012, 08:58 PM

:confused: scroll down on product info page

http://www.racing-cars.com/pp/Car_Showroom/SupaStox.html

wb 203mm

width 160mm

Doh:rolleyes::blush:

Feel a bit thick now.

Garry

05-05-2012, 10:20 PM

Anyone got one yet? Thoughts?

fidspeed

06-05-2012, 12:42 PM

my buddy picked his up friday night his 14 yr old lad (no previous assembly experience) had it build in a couple of hours on Saturday looks nice too

our club is planning to run alongside daves for a while, motor specs will be limited to current rules (no 2s powered)

pricewise there comparable to top spec daves i look forward to locking horns its good to see competion for the daves thats how progress is

else we would still be driving horse and carts and working 14 hours down pit or on the land (tongue well and truly embedded in cheek guys:thumbsup:)

SlowOne

06-05-2012, 07:29 PM

Although Henry Ford probably never said it, it is always attributed to him...

"If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said a faster horse."

No one asked for a mobile 'phone, a word processor, a touch screen or even a power source for their laptop on a long haul flight. The truth is that people will only ever tell the focus groups, interviewers and marketing people that they want what is already there, only better, faster and cheaper.

Competition never improves the breed, it just makes them extinct - no more carts, horses, pits or tilling the soil - but that doesn't stop that ridiculous mantra being spun out on every conceivable occasion. It's almost as bad as "let the free market decide." The market did decide, but the Governments stepped in to save the banks!!

A competition between people and technology is, however, one of the best ways of having fun. It's great to see so many people coming in to have a go now that the class is seen as lots more than just a 30-year-old design. May the best car win!!

Danosborne6661

07-05-2012, 09:16 PM

Loving the look of these, don't look like they'll jump very well though :P

raymondkerr

01-08-2012, 03:28 PM

mark christopher

01-08-2012, 07:55 PM

Like the look of these for our club. Can the 2cell version accept normal saddle packs ? and would you beable to use just one saddle on the 1 cell chassis, or would you have to buy the specific 12th scale 1 cell lipo ?

6 cell/2s car does take two saddle packs, most are running 1s, 4 cell/1s car, yes one half of a saddle will fit giving you 1s:thumbsup:

Spoolio

01-08-2012, 07:56 PM

The 2S version accepts a saddle pack but I hated mine so have converted it to a 1S by changing the chassis, battery nest and Velcro straps. It was an expensive lesson. A single saddle pack does fit in the 1S chassis but it flops about a bit so probably best held in with cell tape.

SlowOne

02-08-2012, 07:48 PM

These cars work at a certain weight and weight distribution, and not at any weight or weight distribution. The reason we have a 950g weight limit is that if you run them lighter they are not as good, and if you hang weight outside the chassis width they don't handle well at all.

Whilst I appreciate that people are not too keen on 1S because they already have a 2S pack, or they don't like running a 2S speedo with a booster or receiver pack, the ideal combination for these cars is 1S with a Hobbywing 1S v2.1 or this new one from Schumacher...

http://www.racing-cars.com/pp/Manufacturer/Core_RC/CR173.html

...neither of which need the receiver pack or booster. Almost any 1S pack will do, but consider the SMC 6000 pack as it is very good and inexpensive for a quality pack. one should do even for a club night. HTH :)