2WD or 4WD?

[rcluke]

i am after a buggy, what should i get 2WD or 4WD?

it is to race on polished wood floor, and to bash about with.

it will have a brushless (in time)

post any links or info here.

[Garry Driffill]

4wd is generally easier all round, But 2wd is where you will learn more driving wise i would say with it only being rear wheel drive..

if you want somthing quick and looks awsome maybe the 4WD, Predator XRS from Xtreme ?

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb274/xx4-nutter/dirty.jpg

doesnt cost a bomb and if youre on polish floor sit the car nice a low and it will be ace :)

http://www.teamxtreme.co.uk/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=2

Garry

[rcluke]

what are the differences between the XRS and the X10?

[ashleyb4]

If you want somehting that looks awful and is slow and has as much ride height as a touring car and breaks when you sneeze yes i agree with garry get a xrs.

IMO you would be much much much betteroff with 2wd in every way. Everyone knows the best looking 2wd out there is the xxx-cr and its also the best performing easy to drive and strong.

A

[rcluke]

so that means, dont get the XRS and get the losi XXX-CR

how is the XXXCR better than the B4?

[AndyM]

If you want somehting that looks awful and is slow and has as much ride height as a touring car and breaks when you sneeze yes i agree with garry get a xrs.



Have you ever owned a Pred Ash? :confused:

Or even seen one?

[rcluke]

is the pred XRS the same sort of spec as the ZX5 RTR ?

[markwilliamson2001]

From my experience of driving with a 2wd on polished floor, it is not fun in any way...

Best get a cheap'ish 4wd buggy if your going to be on polished floor regularly. The B44, Hotbodies D4, or the Lazer ZX-5 SP would be the best options for you I think.

[rcluke]

if the B44 and D4 are cheap, what are expensive 4WD buggy's? :cry:

[markwilliamson2001]

if the B44 and D4 are cheap, what are expensive 4WD buggy's? :cry:

Atomic Carbon S4 & S44
Schumacher Cat SX
BJ4 WE
Predator X11

I could go on...

[Garry Driffill]

If you want somehting that looks awful and is slow and has as much ride height as a touring car and breaks when you sneeze yes i agree with garry get a xrs.

IMO you would be much much much betteroff with 2wd in every way. Everyone knows the best looking 2wd out there is the xxx-cr and its also the best performing easy to drive and strong.

A


Ashley.. i see for once you didnt recomend a xx4. But offer maybe the worst most expensive 2wd on the market.

Please dont comment on the XRS like you have owned one. I really wouldnt say it was slow LOL, Luke there is a short video of an XRS here : http://video.aol.com/video-detail/ttech-predator-xrs-review-rc-racing-car/2554272685


The XRS has a few different features towards the X10. The rockers are make from plastic also the arms and chasis are made from plastic i beleive. all of the X10 parts will fit on this and some of the X11 upgrades too if you wanted to take it to the next level.

[rcluke]

Atomic Carbon S4 & S44
Schumacher Cat SX
BJ4 WE
Predator X11

I could go on...

ok lol,

would the b44 / zx5 be good for the occasional bash?

[rcluke]

i think it might be a b4 that i get, because i dont think i would be able to bash a c/f 4wd buggy. a b4 is just plastic or carbon composite :thumbsup:

[Col]

For cheap bashing, get a durga or zx5 (not the sp)

For cheap racing get a durga or zx5.

2WD will be a nightmare for the inexperienced driver on polished floor - avoid like the plague...

There are so many good cars out there, it does not really matter what you get, but a good bash car is usually not a good race car, and vice versa

[rcluke]

what about a XX4 for bashing and racing?

[mattym0310]

i wudn't recommend them, I have seen them break all too many times and belt's snapping is a frequent issue aswell.

[andy05]

If you want somehting that looks awful and is slow and has as much ride height as a touring car and breaks when you sneeze yes i agree with garry get a xrs.

IMO you would be much much much betteroff with 2wd in every way. Everyone knows the best looking 2wd out there is the xxx-cr and its also the best performing easy to drive and strong.

A
i think you will find the best looking 2wd out there is the S2:thumbsup:

[rcluke]

i wudn't recommend them, I have seen them break all too many times and belt's snapping is a frequent issue aswell.

what about for just racing?

then i will get a cheapo traxxas or tamiya for bashing

[Garry Driffill]

Definatly ! AC 2wd is a supermodel LOL :lol:

[rcluke]

i think you will find the best looking 2wd out there is the S2:thumbsup:

a what now :confused:

[Garry Driffill]

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9626&page=4

Look at the pic of the car top post on that page :)

[phil c]

a what now :confused: an atomic carbon s2 very nice car but still uses the front off a b4 get a b4 neil cragg and many other top drivers cant be wrong :thumbsup:

[mattym0310]

Yes, the s2 looks very nice, and I guess it drives pretty good but is way too expensive for bashing.

[Richard Lowe]

i am after a buggy, what should i get 2WD or 4WD?

it is to race on polished wood floor, and to bash about with.

it will have a brushless (in time)

post any links or info here.
A B4 would be your best bet IMO, if you are sensible with your motor choice there's nothing hard about driving a 2wd on wood floor :)

2wd will be cheaper to buy, run and fix. Also there's less that can go wrong so they are more beginner friendly than a 4wd car would be.

How much experience do you have, and how much equipment do you have now or are you starting from scratch?

[Chrislong]

Im sorry Luke but the type of question you asked will always lead to many different opinions.

The fact is, all the cars are built for a purpose and all are capable of serving that purpose for what you want. Ofcause you will find the limits of the cheaper cars sooner, but again, each of them is upgradable.

What I recommend is to buy a "Racer" magazine, and then attend your local club. Don't be afraid of asking the people there, and watch which cars are doing okay etc..

My recommendation for your purpose is a RC10B4- RTR. RTR stands for ready to Run, and it is just that. You may need to change the tyres to suit where you race it but you will always need to do that with any kit anyway. In time the RC10B4-RTR can be upgraded as you improve and it can then either be upgraded and left as an RC10B4, converted into the S2 or you can choose the best car which ofcause is the X-6 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[ashleyb4]

Rich and Chris the men to listen to.

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[Chrislong]

Rich and Chris the men to listen to.

A

Thanks Ash. Don't get me wrong, the XXX-CR which you recommend is a great car, but for Luke to choose one he'd then have a servo, ESC, Motor, cells, transmitter & more to buy, and a novice may be put off by that potential minefield of purchases, but with an RTR its all included - he will just need a 12v to charge from and stuff for his own comforts such as toolbox, table & chair - but not essential for first meeting.

[ashleyb4]

Totally agree chris the rtr would be much simpler. And i cant take form the b4 i always loved mine i cant come to sell it lol

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[josh_smaxx]

Just to pont out, he already races touring cars at TRCC every week and is doing quite well ;) just iv pursuaded him to get a buggy :thumbsup:

[andy05]

I wasnt saying he should get on just pointing out to ash its the best looking:thumbsup:

[Jonny_H]

But he has said it's for polished floor. I'd be really wary of recommending a 2WD for that. It might be a recipe for getting very frustrated very quickly...

[ashleyb4]

Yea but a 4wd will proberly be more fraustrating with hving to skim motors and repair it as a 4wd is much higher minternance.

A

[rcluke]

Yea but a 4wd will proberly be more fraustrating with hving to skim motors and repair it as a 4wd is much higher minternance.

A

not with brushless :thumbsup:

[rcluke]

Just to pont out, he already races touring cars at TRCC every week and is doing quite well ;) just iv pursuaded him to get a buggy :thumbsup:

i heard you bought a B44 :)

what motor did you say get?

[josh_smaxx]

i heard you bought a B44 :)

what motor did you say get?

Iv just ordered a 5.5 but id prefer to be using a 6.5 at TRCC, 5.5 is better for me outdoors though.

[rcluke]

Thanks Ash. Don't get me wrong, the XXX-CR which you recommend is a great car, but for Luke to choose one he'd then have a servo, ESC, Motor, cells, transmitter & more to buy, and a novice may be put off by that potential minefield of purchases, but with an RTR its all included - he will just need a 12v to charge from and stuff for his own comforts such as toolbox, table & chair - but not essential for first meeting.

i have been racing for about a year, i have all of the gear.
i used to have a B4 factory team, and i am not bothered about buying a servo and other electronics (because i have quite a bit of knowledge about them)


How much is an X6 conversion, i was gonna convert my old B4, but i sold it in the need of funds :mad:

[ashleyb4]

not with brushless :thumbsup:

Its not just motor mainernance rebuild between most meetings to make sure the drive chain is runnign freely checking for worn cvd's also parts are generally more exspensive. I thought 4wd would be easy with brushless but it isnt.

A

[rcluke]

Its not just motor mainernance rebuild between most meetings to make sure the drive chain is runnign freely checking for worn cvd's also parts are generally more exspensive. I thought 4wd would be easy with brushless but it isnt.

A

that's all part of the hobby :thumbsup:

[Lee]

Aero and B4 are my reccomendations while were just saying what cars we run:thumbdown:

I think the pred is the one though, its AEROdynamically the fastest car ever made and is unrivalled in suspension travel:thumbsup:

[rcluke]

Aero and B4 are my reccomendations while were just saying what cars we run:thumbdown:

I think the pred is the one though, its AEROdynamically the fastest car ever made and is unrivalled in suspension travel:thumbsup:

it's bloody expensive though (the X10 / X11)

[Lee]

Another bonus with them is that when you flip it and land on your roof you can continue to drive, so you never actually lose any time:thumbsup:

[matt]

go for the xrs then:woot:

[rcluke]

LMAO,

but you tear the 'cute' little wing off the front

[Garry Driffill]

I think the pred is the one though, its AEROdynamically the fastest car ever made and is unrivalled in suspension travel:thumbsup:

:)....

[Chrislong]

Another bonus with them is that when you flip it and land on your roof you can continue to drive, so you never actually lose any time:thumbsup:

Are you suggesting its as fast on its roof, as when it isn't?

ROFLOLPIMP.

[rcluke]

decision made,

B4

[B44&501xRacerEX]

Such a lucky guy is me.
Hello RC luke!:)

[Lee]

Colouring wheels in is wrong :thumbdown:

[ashleyb4]

it sok if youdie them but felt tip pen :thumbdown:

A

[B44&501xRacerEX]

Colouring wheels in is wrong :thumbdown:

I know it turned out looking really bad but, after it wears off they'll be white
again...lol

[Chrislong]

Until it wears off, you'll have to wear a good disguise.... :lol:

Colouring wheels in is wrong on any level, colouring new JConcept wheels in which are cool and hard to source is double-wrong!

Its so wrong, its actually nearly right...... but it isn't... :lol:

[Northy]

It looks very poor.

G

[B44&501xRacerEX]

Well, at least my rides are personlized.
The sharpie wheels are not that bad really.

Everyone I know makes fun of them, but it will be okay.
Just tried something different for a change.
Wes thinks they look awesome like that.:p

[ashleyb4]

All our cars are personalised

A

[Lee]

The sharpie wheels are not that bad really.

Who told you that??:confused:


Wes thinks they look awesome like that.:p


Wes lies:thumbdown:

[Northy]

Wes thinks they look awesome like that.:p

Is Wes on crack too? :lol:

G

[rcluke]

no offence mate, but them wheels look stupid. i only know one other person who has colored wheels in

[Chrislong]

Is Wes a sock-puppet you talk to? :lol:

[Lee]

no offence mate, but them wheels look stupid. i only know one other person who has colored wheels in


and he got removed from oOple for felching :lol:

[rcluke]

and he got removed from oOple for felching :lol:

josh has swirls on his

[Chrislong]

I did notice that, I turned a blind eye. infact, I was going to try and persuade him to hold the tranny properly first, and then next hide his marker-pen.

[LEGEND]

I know, I personally think they look terrible. That is why i prefer solid gleaming white wheels. :)

[Lee]

I know, I personally think they look terrible. That is why i prefer solid gleaming white wheels. :)

:thumbsup:

Nice one LEG END

Has my BJ4 front end arrived yet that you ordered 6 weeks ago:confused:

[Northy]

Has my BJ4 front end arrived yet that you ordered 6 weeks ago:confused:

BUSTED!

Naughty people who do not give parts back do not get to race in the NE regionals....

G

[Lee]

:lol::lol::lol::lol:


Give the lad a chance G, i only gave him the part at the F345`s:thumbdown:

[LEGEND]

Jconcepts have them on order they have not arrived yet and everywhere i checked they are sold out.:(

[rcluke]

is it just me who thinks this thread has gone some-what off track?

[mattym0310]

I havn't recieved my bj4 front shock tower yet lee! has that got "lost in the post??"

BUSTED!

[Lee]

ha ha no i have that, just havent seen you:p

[mattym0310]

You saw me at Worksop :p

[Lee]

Yeah i know i just completely forgot to be honest:thumbdown:

[rcluke]

who races buggies on polished wood floors here?

is grip achievable?

[dan r]

they do sometimes at bataly indoors quite fun very slippy

[mattym0310]

yes it is. I race on this surface [with carpet] every weekend

[ashleyb4]

Yea There is lots of grip to find and use on wooden floor with the right tyres and the right setup.

A

[rcluke]

Yea There is lots of grip to find and use on wooden floor with the right tyres and the right setup.

A

schumacher yellow minipin tyres, and shocks with, soft oil and mediumish springs, and the lowest ride height possible ?

[Chrislong]

Partially right.

Yellow Minipins or Minispikes.

But an outdoor setup with descent ride height will work very well. A car with low ride height will not pitch and so will force the tires to slide before the suspension moves. A car which lets the suspension move will get the most out of the available grip.... but ofcause there is a balance, too soft and it'll lean over like mad and bottom the chassis, camber change will be nuts and it will be trying to grip on the outer edge of the tires; too hard and the suspension won't move, it'll just slide like being too low.

Chris

[ashleyb4]

Yea its diffrent for each car its difficult to set a setup for all the cars they all handel diffrently.

A

[josh_smaxx]

HAHA :woot: didnt see the bits about my swirly wheels :thumbsup: I got board so i put them on, and tranny is still held wrong!!!!! :thumbsup:

[WES_]

Wes thinks they look awesome like that.:p


Hey B-Mag, do you see my wheels coloured in, they are not awesome dude, i think i said they were sick :thumbsup:

[B44&501xRacerEX]

Hey B-Mag, do you see my wheels coloured in, they are not awesome dude, i think i said they were sick :thumbsup:

your not Wesinator then...sorry your just an imposter..:bored:
If your really him who is your best freind??

Only the real wesinator can anwser this question....lol

[WES_]

It is me, the wes-ster :woot::thumbsup:

They look trick dude, im gonna get a different colour for each wheel on my new ride :thumbsup:

Its gonna look bitchin :thumbsup:

[B44&501xRacerEX]

It is me, the wes-ster :woot::thumbsup:

They look trick dude, im gonna get a different colour for each wheel on my new ride :thumbsup:

Its gonna look bitchin :thumbsup:

:blush:

[B44&501xRacerEX]

It is me, the wes-ster :woot::thumbsup:

They look trick dude, im gonna get a different colour for each wheel on my new ride :thumbsup:

Its gonna look bitchin :thumbsup:

5 mins Time is up!
Who is your best freind??

[Lee]

wtf??


you by the sounds of it :confused:

[B44&501xRacerEX]

wtf??


you by the sounds of it :confused:

Nope it's not me, it's J. Rudd:thumbsup:
Haha caught ya you troll....WES imposter! Sieze him.....lol

[Chrislong]

Who is your best freind??

Random

[Lee]

Nope it's not me, it's J. Rudd:thumbsup:
Haha caught ya you troll....WES imposter! Sieze him.....lol


you are uber random!!!:thumbdown:

Why do you think im wes:confused:

If i had the power i`d ban you:lol:

[B44&501xRacerEX]

you are uber random!!!:thumbdown:

Why do you think im wes:confused:

If i had the power i`d ban you:lol:

nope the WEs__ not you

Lets get the thread back on topic.
4wd is better than 2wd because you can get the corners better.

[Lee]

Why quote me then :confused::thumbdown:

[B44&501xRacerEX]

Why quote me then :confused::thumbdown:
my bad..sorry:cry:

[Chrislong]

Makes perfect sense now... :(

[rcluke]

NOVAK :thumbsup:





everyone else is posting random stuff, so i thought what the hell

[Lee]

Luke do you have a pic of your mum? :woot:

[stegger]

Luke do you have a pic of your mum? :woot:

Here we go again:lol::lol: Luke, post a pic so he can get over it!!! so to speak:woot:

[Agent Smith]

If your really him who is your best freind??
Someone who can spell? :confused:

[rcluke]

http://medias.ados.fr/people/2/6/2602/Pamela-Anderson/photos/7698-pamela-anderson.jpg

[Lee]

Tidy, but i dont believe you :woot:

[stegger]

Fair doooooooosssssssss . Lee your right. Luke when can we meet her:drool::drool::drool:

[Chrislong]

:woot: How does she like her eggs?

[stegger]

I want to come back as a lace nipple cup:drool:

[Al3xis007]

Someone who can spell? :confused:

what about the bad grammor?? lol.... you're not your

[AndyM]

what about the bad grammor?? lol.... you're not your


Grammar ;)

[B44&501xRacerEX]

http://medias.ados.fr/people/2/6/2602/Pamela-Anderson/photos/7698-pamela-anderson.jpg
WOW!! Pam is your mum? Lucky:woot:

[B44&501xRacerEX]

NOVAK :thumbsup:





everyone else is posting random stuff, so i thought what the hell

My mum is hot too.:drool: :wub

[Lee]

MILF :thumbsup:

[JohnM]

My mum is hot too.:drool: :wub

What an incesting thing to say:eh?:

[Lee]

What an incesting thing to say:eh?:

Incest: A game for all the family :thumbdown::lol:

[Kecky]

I think the thinner air up north is screwing up your way of thinking :lol:

[JohnM]

Incest: A game for all the family :thumbdown::lol:

Only in Norfolk, the only county in England I can think of where if your mum and dad split up, the biggest question isn't who gets the kids, but are they still brother and sister:lol:

Need a stick on fake 6th finger to cross the border, so you look like a local:)

[Al3xis007]

Grammar ;)

didnt say i could spell lol