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lakin 19-08-2014 10:06 PM

remove the spaces on the rear hanger that makes it better

MaxBaker 20-08-2014 02:25 PM

can someone who owns a dm upload me some pictures of it to have a look at, is this buggy going to be competitive on astro ?? B5M is the choice at my club (telford) which would be the obvious choice for me to make but that's too easy haha im doing great with a rear motor losi 22 but want to see what all the mid motor fuss is about.

This kit is on offer too for 199 at dms which is a bargain for what ive read about the quality ! I am newish to the racing side of rc so is this kit going to be sympathetic to the likes of me, i dont crash much to be honest:D

mes 20-08-2014 05:07 PM

I am absolutely sure the DM will be competitve on astro in due time. As it has been released just a few weeks ago, set-ups have to be sorted out, and some parts deemed to be essential by many racers (gear diff, brass bulkhead) are yet to be released. As you can see on the blank set-up sheet, VBC has already thought of these items, so they should be available before long.

If you are not looking for the easy approach by taking the B5M, there is no reason why you should not give the Firebolt a try. Of course, I haven't seen one except for the pictures on the Internet and studying the manual, but I haven't seen any details that I thought would not work. Go for it! :thumbsup:

mutoid 22-08-2014 06:05 PM

The quality of the cars are super,backed up by even greater support(SMD) new upgraded idler gears dropped through my letterbox today free of charge.
Admittedley there isnt much set-up stuff out there but we are finding it better that way,as we are forced to keep trying things out more,sooner than pinch set-ups,plus we get to learn more about what works etc.

For those looking out for a new 2wd buggy,dont overlook these Firebolts.

P.S A VBC section is required please mods,ta.

croller 24-08-2014 07:03 PM

Received one of these through SMD Friday built and ran today on high grip Astro very very good, first car in ages I could push hard, Ian Mellishes set up off here but kit oils extremely planted and easily kept up with forward motor cars on a track suited to them, just my driving let me down in places. Good kit good car

Gavin

mes 29-08-2014 02:54 AM

Kit arrived yesterday, quality is second to none. When I came to the ball diff, I compared one of the outdrives to a Yokomo MR outdrive and I had difficulties to find any differences. I dare say the Yokomo gear diff is a direct fit while we have to wait for the VBC item. As my first run with th Firebolt will be on dirt, I let the gear diff in the Yokomo, however. It will be hard enough to adjust to my new left-handed radio this Sunday afternoon. :)

mes 29-08-2014 08:00 PM

Complete! Except for my shiny new HW ESC that is not working... :yawn:
Apart from that, I really enjoyed the built like hardly any other before, quality of this car is at least on par with all the others out there! As for kit contents, some servo spacers and an antenna tube would be nice, but of course I had enough stuff in my parts box to compensate for that. Avid front wheels do not work without modification, but your rotary tool of choice will fix that problem. ;)
I did a dirt bench set-up with some rear green springs, left out the shock travel limiters, raised the bull studs and lengthened the camber links in the rear, and it feels good so far. Can't wait to run it in two weeks! Tomorrow I'll put on the chassis armor, and on Sunday I'll give the shell to the painter. :)

Edit: No need for servo spacers: Servo position can be adjusted by switching servo mounts A and B! :woot:

dicky14 04-09-2014 02:03 PM

ive been running my firebolt for about 3 weeks now, awesome car and very fast at Broxstowe in the rain friday night. Did back to back comparisons last night with my TM2, Tm 2 quicker but not as consistent as the firebolt, overall an epic piece of kit ( 3 in the A final at mansfield last night) 1 and 2 in qualifying and same result for final.:thumbsup:

mes 04-09-2014 03:24 PM

Congrats! Feel free to share your set-up sheet. :thumbsup:

New @ vbcracing.com:
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mes 06-09-2014 09:00 AM

FYI: Yokomo B2-500MGS metal gear diferential unit is a direct fit if you happen to have one in your box or don't want to wait for the (probably cheaper) VBC Racing diff. However, the Firebolt's idler gears are smaller than the Yokomo/TeamC items, so the TeamC POM idlers are not an option.

bretts 06-09-2014 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jk007 (Post 872216)
Is there anything worth doing before my first run.
Would like to be at the sharpened first time out
Just not racing till September 6th

That's today!! Jason

jk007 06-09-2014 10:05 PM

Vbc racing firebolt
 
Just ran my firebolt for the first time tonight
I ran stock setting as per manual , the car was amazing
I won every round and the final with only 1 crash all night
Well it rolled straight back on its wheels cost me 1 second
If you look on yorcc website the heats and finals listings
will be there to see how consistent it was
I was car 5 in heat 4 and car 1 in the A final.
The balance of the car made it so easy to drive
I don't know how I would make it any better
Would recommend this car to anyone fancying a Change
Alex @ moss models has them Instock
give him a call ,I'm sure he Will do a good deal
www.mossrcmodels.co.uk

mes 07-09-2014 05:56 AM

Sounds great, can't wait to run mine next week on dirt! :thumbsup:
What battery layout did you use on astro?

jk007 07-09-2014 09:25 AM

Vbc racing firebolt
 
It was first indoor meeting at Huntington school York
So 50/50 carpet and polished floor
Battery layout I used was shorty front to back
Other wise stock setting inc stock oils

bretts 07-09-2014 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jk007 (Post 875098)
the car was amazing
I won every round and the final

Would recommend this car to anyone fancying a Change
Alex @ moss models has them Instock
give him a call ,I'm sure he Will do a good deal
www.mossrcmodels.co.uk

Here you go Jason, just for you:lol::lol:

http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/...psb619e3ff.jpg

P.S. Your car looked very good, and you weren't even pushing it!

john333 07-09-2014 11:15 AM

The consistency of the car is just amazing, I found I was hitting the perfect line lap after lap, race after race, it almost seemed like the car was driving itself!

Stock setup, as in the book seems hard to beat generally, and I've found that using the shorty along the chassis best in high grip, and saddles settle it down on loose and/or low grip.

So far the car seems to have all the best aspects of the normal mid motor layout, but with excellent traction and corner speed of the front motor layout.

leelar 07-09-2014 01:42 PM

Thinking of getting one but what wheel fitments is it

john333 07-09-2014 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leelar (Post 875147)
Thinking of getting one but what wheel fitments is it

Pretty much all the 12mm hexed will fit, Schumacher, kyosho, team c etc. Also x ray 14mm rear hex will fit straight on so you have a choice of them too. All will fit in the brca box (I've tried them all at the veterans champs last week)

mes 07-09-2014 03:52 PM

Avid Satellite front wheels have too deep hexes, you'll need to remove some material around the hex. I ordered some AKA Hexlites to be on the safe side.

leelar 08-09-2014 08:50 PM

I am going to order 1 at the weekend
What parts should i order and were is the best place to get one from

jk007 08-09-2014 10:03 PM

Vbc racing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leelar (Post 875453)
I am going to order 1 at the weekend
What parts should i order and were is the best place to get one from

Hi mate
I bought mine of Alex @ moss models he will do you a good deal
He is also running the vbc racing firebolt which helps as he will be
Keeping the spare in stock for himself (lol)
Give him a call, his number is on the website below
www.mossrcmodels.co.uk

jk007 10-09-2014 10:47 PM

Vbc racing firebolt
 
I have ordered most of the option parts of Alex @ moss models
Steering arms,bulkhead, springs and metal gears
Not racing this weekend as I'm going to Barcelona gokart racing
So week after next for 2nd run with car hoping she will perform
As well as last week and it wasn't just new car syndrome ( lol )

mes 12-09-2014 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leelar (Post 875453)
I am going to order 1 at the weekend
What parts should i order and were is the best place to get one from

I ordered the major plastic suspension parts and steering together with my kit, but after taking a look at the parts, I doubt I'll need any of them. Tomorrow I'll run the car for the first time, I wonder how it will perform on dirt. :)
Edit: Car was great on Dirt! Set-up sheet available on petitrc, German language review soon on www.rc-news.de (feel free to use the translate button at the bottom ;) )

jk007 20-09-2014 10:43 PM

Vbc racing firebolt ( awesome )
 
Just had its 2nd run out at yorcc tonight
Again the car did not disappoint I'm still
running stock settings the car is awesome
Qualified 4th in the A final and finished 3rd
Check out yorcc website the results will be
Posted in the next day or so.

Alex has the kits and spares in stock
check Out the website for some cracking deals
www.mossrcmodels.co.uk

Cheers jason

Tom3012 22-09-2014 07:24 AM

Just ordered mine, anyone got a good starting setup for astro?

leelar 22-09-2014 12:05 PM

Just stared to build mine should be ready by the weekend and just waiting for the shell to come back

focusmad 22-09-2014 03:52 PM

Guys,has anyone run the firebolt on a medium grip track that is super fast?have trouble with steering in general running in kit form anyone got any ideas??ended up running spikes on the front but only got 3 runs out of them.
Chris

mes 22-09-2014 05:38 PM

I guess you will already have tried to lower ride height in the front. If you are running saddles you could switch to shorty batteries to remove some of the weight in the rear. Other options would be harder rear springs or more anti-squat, or put some weight in front or on top of the servo until the brass bulkhead is released.

mutoid 22-09-2014 06:33 PM

Chris,when you say trouble with steering,can you give us more info please.
Have you got too much or not enough?
Does the car have lots of steering initially then starts pushing mid corner or the opposite?
Please let us know,Steve.

john333 22-09-2014 07:09 PM

Ran mine at rhr this weekend, have to say it was very very good! Kit setup pistons and oil wise, but used option soft springs on the front, and option hard springs on the rear. Ran it with saddle pack, but with hindsight may have been even better with shorty. Smd have just posted me the option front weight which I think will be useful. Car was spot on using cut staggers, certainly didn't feel the need for spikes. I did run it with maximum caster which felt good, and all the fibre spacers removed from the rear.

john333 22-09-2014 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom3012 (Post 877605)
Just ordered mine, anyone got a good starting setup for astro?

As a starting point, just do the standard kit setup, its very good! But don't put the extra rear toe in spacers in, or the antisquat spacer, it feels better without them.

focusmad 22-09-2014 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mutoid (Post 877711)
Chris,when you say trouble with steering,can you give us more info please.
Have you got too much or not enough?
Does the car have lots of steering initially then starts pushing mid corner or the opposite?
Please let us know,Steve.

When I say no steering no entry steering having to jab the brakes to get the nose in then push on exit,I have had a brass weight kit made for tried it with shortly against speedo with brass under lipo,kit springs . hopefully you all can help

Tom3012 22-09-2014 08:34 PM

Cheers guys! Really looking foward to getting it, thinking about getting it re-anodised though, just not sure I can wait that long :lol:

mes 23-09-2014 03:32 PM

German review now online. :)

bondy 24-09-2014 06:25 PM

wheels
 
What wheels is everybody using ?

mes 24-09-2014 06:37 PM

So far I've used Avid Satellites, but the fronts require some dremelling around the hex. Recently I ordered some AKA Hexlites and they fit perfectly. My new go-to wheels! :thumbsup:

mes 24-09-2014 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by focusmad (Post 877681)
Guys,has anyone run the firebolt on a medium grip track that is super fast?have trouble with steering in general running in kit form anyone got any ideas??ended up running spikes on the front but only got 3 runs out of them.
Chris

I just remembered that I used to have similar issues running PL Wedge tyres on my Yoke. Try to switch the spacers behind the front hub carrier to the front, it worked pretty well on my B-Max. :)

jk007 24-09-2014 08:43 PM

Wheels
 
I run Schumacher wheels on my firebolt, they fit straight on with no problems.

mes 25-09-2014 10:37 AM

http://www.redrc.net/2014/09/vbc-fir...pension-mount/

bondy 26-09-2014 03:51 PM

wheels
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jk007 (Post 878081)
I run Schumacher wheels on my firebolt, they fit straight on with no problems.

Yay and they do they pre-glued aswel :drool:


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