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Swiss 01-05-2007 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenG (Post 36675)
No, but it will turn 'faster' so you can 'throw' it at corners more;)

It won't actually turn faster, all it will do is turn more for less movement on the sticks!

Gaz_Stanton 01-05-2007 01:31 PM

Ash, When i drove your car afterwards it was fine and i was able to get it tight on the corner you have drawn.
I didn't see much of your actual racing but would guess you need to work on the corner speed. The corner you mention required you to brake at the end of a high speed tarmac straight. I expect you were locking up the tyres there and not taking off as much speed as you were able to on other corners that were grass in the braking zone. This is especially true as you wern't running a one-way, as locking up the front tyres would definitely give you understeer.
So to solve: - :cool:
1) Brake earlier and more progressively on tarmac leading up to that corner.
2) Fit front one-way.

Lew 01-05-2007 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee (Post 36677)
Lovin the pic ash but to me it looks like your turning after the corner, slow down and make sure you hit the apex!!

Slow is fast:o ;)

Just have to comment, My dad usually says things similar to that, but i disagree and it turns into a Sqwoble, but yeah, i dont think thats entirely true tbh...

Also, ash, I know this is completely off topic.. You said to check back in a few days for your site, and it still isn't up.. you might need to change that =]

ashleyb4 01-05-2007 06:16 PM

OK thanks for all your help And i do apreatiate the slo is fast bit I sometimes when i have a bad day just forget some stuff. Stu evans and Graham North tought me that in southport in january. I did alot better to.

I know i watched you garath and i was like how did you do that ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????
:o

But i plan on running the xx4 on thursday again just to get some track time in with it so ill sorta coasting into the corner. instead of breaking at the last minute.

A

Col 01-05-2007 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swiss (Post 36607)
Also regarding throw on the steering, you should always set your steering throw so that it is over the mechanical end stops... approx. 5-10%

This seems like a guaranteed way to break the steering bellcrank...

Swiss 02-05-2007 07:41 AM

Only broken one in the 2years been running the car.........

markwilliamson2001 09-05-2007 06:06 PM

Seems to me to a be a problem with driver not car, but if you are quite a recent beginner and from your comments it seems like this is the truth, then you need to slow your car down big time!!

If gareth can drive your car on the proper line, then it seems you do not have 'massive understeer', you are driving it like a novice touring car driver would do -

i.e. chuck the car in with loads of throttle and 'CRANK' the steering over full lock at the same time. In off-road with the variation of surface, grip levels etc you need to drive with less power on tarmac etc...

I saw someone at my local club with a 2wd buggy have understeer and grip roll doing the same thing.... too much power for a beginner and poor driving style. I am sorry but you need to build up to a faster motor as your skills improve.

My 2 pence
M.

elvo 09-05-2007 08:34 PM

This Major Understeer, is he higher or lower in rank than Captain Oversteer?
And, is he at all related to General Failure (who occasionally reaeds my hard drive) or Major Disaster?

Fiddybux 09-05-2007 09:51 PM

Not forgetting of course, Corporal Punishment, or for the musically inclined, General MIDI.

ashleyb4 10-05-2007 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markwilliamson2001 (Post 38350)
Seems to me to a be a problem with driver not car, but if you are quite a recent beginner and from your comments it seems like this is the truth, then you need to slow your car down big time!!

If gareth can drive your car on the proper line, then it seems you do not have 'massive understeer', you are driving it like a novice touring car driver would do -

i.e. chuck the car in with loads of throttle and 'CRANK' the steering over full lock at the same time. In off-road with the variation of surface, grip levels etc you need to drive with less power on tarmac etc...

I saw someone at my local club with a 2wd buggy have understeer and grip roll doing the same thing.... too much power for a beginner and poor driving style. I am sorry but you need to build up to a faster motor as your skills improve.

My 2 pence
M.

Ive been racing about 2 1/2 years i can get the corner fine in 2wd but i have been strugerling in 4wd. I raced the xx4 last thursday and i managed to get it round on the racing line most of the time. The breaks on the nosram speedo seem to be like on and off no in the middle.

A

Southwell 10-05-2007 10:49 AM

Reset the speedo then....

Spencer Mulcahy 10-05-2007 01:20 PM

Don't worry about it to much ash if you are getting the same line very lap then you are consistant get the consistancy right then you can get racing line after. (That blue line is how I take most corners you could get a real car down the inside of my lines :) :) )


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