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AmiSMB 15-04-2019 02:37 PM

Cougar Laydown
 
It has been very quiet regarding this so far so I just wondered on peoples thoughts so far regarding this new car as it is now very imminent that we are mid April.

knighthawk 15-04-2019 02:57 PM

No Doughnut's yet on Facebook

Kevg57 15-04-2019 03:16 PM

very quiet on the Laydown front,

madmulc 15-04-2019 04:56 PM

It’s amazing, feels completely different to the KC. Much more drive out of the corners and a lot less body roll. I love my KC but the laydown is on a different level

AmiSMB 15-04-2019 05:09 PM

Madmulc great to hear from someone who had raced theirs. What surface have you used it one and did you have to make many setup changes? Are there any changes that you are considering next time out?

madmulc 15-04-2019 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmiSMB (Post 998333)
Madmulc great to hear from someone who had raced theirs. What surface have you used it one and did you have to make many setup changes? Are there any changes that you are considering next time out?

The car is amazing out the box, I have raced it on EOS and Astro going from EOS to Astro all I changed was the rear oil and springs. I also only run two gears in the diff instead of the four it comes with. I am also running the electrics and battery forward. I was amazed at how different the car feels compared to the KC it has a lot more initial response and so much flatter through the bends. I run the car as kit apart from the front under servo weight which I always run.

daz75 15-04-2019 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmulc (Post 998341)
The car is amazing out the box, I have raced it on EOS and Astro going from EOS to Astro all I changed was the rear oil and springs. I also only run two gears in the diff instead of the four it comes with. I am also running the electrics and battery forward. I was amazed at how different the car feels compared to the KC it has a lot more initial response and so much flatter through the bends. I run the car as kit apart from the front under servo weight which I always run.

What does less gears in the diff do?

madmulc 15-04-2019 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daz75 (Post 998342)
What does less gears in the diff do?

Gives more drive out of the corners, however the gears wear a lot quicker and the diff oil needs changing more frequently

Kevg57 16-04-2019 07:15 AM

madmulc how does it feel so much different to the KC?

Front end geometry is the same, so the handling difference must be down to the L1 rear geometry and the motor pos 4 position, and a bit of CoG difference.

Cant wait to try my KC in pos 4 and L1 rear spec this weekend, finished the swap over on Sunday.

AmiSMB 16-04-2019 07:32 AM

When I looked at a team drivers Cougar Laydown the rear diff is incredibly low. With the rear gearbox being plastic I think it changes the whole rear flex characteristics. It will be interesting to see how ordinary club drivers get on with it compared to the KC.

lofty2332 17-04-2019 03:26 PM

I am getting back into the hobby after a 20 year absence, would I be better getting a Cougar Laydown or KC?

I am very tempted by the Laydown which is currently cheaper than the older car on most modelshop websites. I'm torn between a Laydown, KC or Associated B6.1

Adam F 17-04-2019 09:26 PM

Laydown as its the latest, so residuals will be stronger.. plus its ok on most surfaces from what I have read..

Used KC prices will drop down as a result, so it could make sense as a used purchase... its still a great car..

Wolvie 18-04-2019 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lofty2332 (Post 998380)
I am getting back into the hobby after a 20 year absence, would I be better getting a Cougar Laydown or KC?

I am very tempted by the Laydown which is currently cheaper than the older car on most modelshop websites. I'm torn between a Laydown, KC or Associated B6.1

B6.1 works great but if slope makes you mad forget it!
My Cougar LD is pre-ordered.

mark christopher 18-04-2019 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lofty2332 (Post 998380)
I am getting back into the hobby after a 20 year absence, would I be better getting a Cougar Laydown or KC?

I am very tempted by the Laydown which is currently cheaper than the older car on most modelshop websites. I'm torn between a Laydown, KC or Associated B6.1

Fully dependent on budget, the kc is a good car, and will remain a good car. you will also pick up a good second hand one cheaper with options fitted, the ld builds nice looks nice and seems to be easier to drive. I'm keeping my kc along side my ld
Either way you wont be disappointed

olied 19-04-2019 06:32 AM

Saw one at our club night last night. Looks awesome, I’d be tempted if I was in the market for a new buggy

stormyyyy 19-04-2019 09:31 PM

I'm confussed, i have had a laydown on order for the last month, so has it been released/shipped yet as none of the shops seem to have it or is there a release date that anyone knows about as mid april has been and gone.

Spils77 19-04-2019 10:25 PM

I think the release date was ment to be the 17th April but this has now changed to the 26th April? I also have the car pre-ordered and on checking the model shop website this is the date they are expecting there stock delivery. Just got to wait a few more days.

Wolvie 20-04-2019 05:58 AM

I've read on a fb forum it should be next week...

mark christopher 20-04-2019 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lofty2332 (Post 998380)
I am getting back into the hobby after a 20 year absence, would I be better getting a Cougar Laydown or KC?

I am very tempted by the Laydown which is currently cheaper than the older car on most modelshop websites. I'm torn between a Laydown, KC or Associated B6.1

Wont go wrong with this

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202686

olied 20-04-2019 08:01 PM

Absolutely. That’d be a mega buggy for that money

matt 22-04-2019 01:16 PM

There doesn't seem to many pictures of the laydown car about floating about.

lofty2332 22-04-2019 05:08 PM

Already sold unfortunately

Al3xis007 23-04-2019 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daz75 (Post 998342)
What does less gears in the diff do?

having 2 in stead of 4 internal gears gives you more initial steering, the same affect as going down in diff oil, 2 gear 7k is close to 4 gear 3k

stormyyyy 24-04-2019 07:39 PM

pushed back to mid May

daz75 24-04-2019 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stormyyyy (Post 998502)
pushed back to mid May

Have they found an issue?

mark christopher 24-04-2019 08:22 PM

just waiting on a part to be completed, there working flat out.

leeboy44 25-04-2019 01:49 AM

When I called yesterday they told me the 27th of this month?

Ross 25-04-2019 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leeboy44 (Post 998508)
When I called yesterday they told me the 27th of this month?

They told me around two weeks yesterday, it was late afternoon when I asked.

matt 25-04-2019 08:35 AM

So the romours floating around the Web are the delay is regarding the diff,being either the plastic cross pin (in stock on there website) or the outdrive(also in stock on there page). If true very disappointing as the gear diff is a old part of the KR and the alloy gear pins are also avaliable.

Spils77 25-04-2019 08:49 AM

Just received a confirmation email from the model shop I have the car pre-ordered with and they are expecting delivery on the 20th May :cry:

stormyyyy 25-04-2019 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt (Post 998513)
So the romours floating around the Web are the delay is regarding the diff,being either the plastic cross pin (in stock on there website) or the outdrive(also in stock on there page). If true very disappointing as the gear diff is a old part of the KR and the alloy gear pins are also avaliable.

Got told at the weekend by a good source that the diff gears for the kits were made in the wrong material causing excessive wear. i.e manufacturing cock up, Still better they caught it before release.

matt 25-04-2019 09:42 AM

Again a part they have in stock. The gears are from the kf so would say plenty in stock. Disappointing still.

daz75 25-04-2019 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt (Post 998516)
Again a part they have in stock. The gears are from the kf so would say plenty in stock. Disappointing still.

Surely a short delay is better than unhappy customers further down the road

mark christopher 25-04-2019 10:11 AM

Dear Customers,

Thank you for patiently waiting for the release of the new Cougar Laydown. We had hoped that we would be releasing cars around this time. Unfortunately the final part to be manufactured has been unexpectedly rejected by our Quality Control department. We took the difficult decision to get this part 100% correct rather than sending out a slightly substandard product that would not meet our extremely high standards. This means there will be a delay in releasing cars to the general public through our dealer network. We are hoping this delay will be short but could be approx 2-3 weeks.

Please accept our sincere apologies for this delay.

Schumacher Racing.

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http://www.racing-cars.com/products....&pagewidth=550

matt 25-04-2019 10:16 AM

That's fine but this car is a parts bin special with very little in the way of new parts and the hold up is with one of the older parts is not a great start.

Allan1875 25-04-2019 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt (Post 998521)
That's fine but this car is a parts bin special with very little in the way of new parts and the hold up is with one of the older parts is not a great start.

Thats actually not accurate.

matt 25-04-2019 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allan1875 (Post 998528)
Thats actually not accurate.

What part?

mark christopher 25-04-2019 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt (Post 998513)
So the romours floating around the Web are the delay is regarding the diff,being either the plastic cross pin (in stock on there website) or the outdrive(also in stock on there page). If true very disappointing as the gear diff is a old part of the KR and the alloy gear pins are also avaliable.

i fail to see why you think its bad that a manufacture is not sending out a kit with faulty parts, as you claim its only "romours??" floating round

knighthawk 25-04-2019 03:20 PM

In a way I think this is a good move for Schumacher
Their Customer Service is next to none, full stop
As they said, they took the hard decision to delay its release !!

Just ask yourself Matt, if they'd released the car ( to you ), it failed first or second run, how much bitching would you be doing then

reelman_fishing 25-04-2019 03:23 PM

I'm with Mark Christopher on this one, Why would you want a car with an inferior part that's just crazy. Thumbs up to schumacher for finding the problem before release.


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