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ace028 08-12-2009 03:20 AM

Kyosho ZX5 FS
 
Hi, just won me a ZX5 FS on ebay with novak gtb esc and 6.5 esc, smc lipo 4900 pack, for $300. Any tips or recomend hop-ups? Thanks.

RogerM 08-12-2009 01:03 PM

The ZX5-FS is a one box race car .... just build it as stock, put on Tebo's standard set-up and it'll be great on the sort of tracks you have out there!!!

ace028 08-12-2009 04:53 PM

Thanks. I can't wait to get it.

Here is the car I bought
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...#ht_500wt_1182

phil c 08-12-2009 09:36 PM

you have got a good deal there mate , well done

Rikus 09-12-2009 07:39 AM

Hey the car works great out off the box you will not regret it. Lipo don't fit so you will have to do your own mods to make it fit. Just get the D4 front rims or the new kyosho rims the old ones dont go through the Scrute box.

ace028 15-12-2009 10:09 PM

Just got the car, will post pics once the camera charges. Powered it on, everything works. I think I am going to tear it apart, and clean and rebuild the diffs, or at least inspect, and refill the shocks, and set it up like tebos car for a good base.

ace028 16-12-2009 01:01 AM

Pics as promised
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/e...S/DSC01954.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/e...S/DSC01955.jpg
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ace028 17-12-2009 08:35 PM

Just got my FS going, I didn't take the diffs apart as they felt tight and smooth, I have not changed the shock oil yet, but plan to. I used my Hitec HS 525 mg servo for now till I can buy a better one. I cleaned the chassis a bit, and redid the motor wires and tried to route the wires the best I could. I couldn't really find may kyosho pics of wire routing so this is what I ended up with.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/e...S/DSC01961.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/e...S/DSC01962.jpg
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http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/e...S/DSC01964.jpg

After running it in my open feild with very short grass I found that it over heated about 3-4 times. I think I need to make some vent holes above the esc in the body. I also found that the stock motor profile does not have enough braking for my likeing. But the car drives very well, lots of power!! This is also my first time driving a car with a sensored motor, I like it!! Very smooth. I did video (well wife did) I will try to post it later after I edit it. Its just driving in a flat empty feild, it was fun.

shannow95 17-12-2009 09:58 PM

Lovely pics :) what's your spur gear ? On my B44 19/84 with a X12 6.5t was too much for the motor , it was too hot to touch after 20min , I had to drop down to 17/84 (had more punch and top speed the same)

ace028 17-12-2009 10:00 PM

Not really sure what gear ration it is right now lol. I have to count the teeth. Does it say the number on the spur gear?

shannow95 17-12-2009 10:23 PM

yes it is usualy stamped behind it in your configuration .

RogerM 18-12-2009 08:43 AM

stock spur is 78 teeth and the optional one is 75 teeth (although AE ones can be made to work).

I run 23/78 on my 6.5 motors in the FS (but only run for 5min races plus about 1 min either side so 7mins in total).

ace028 18-12-2009 06:03 PM

Are these guys any good?
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...hock-Tower-4mm

jaank 19-12-2009 09:41 AM

Have few of them, but haven't got time to ride them.
They look ok and i think the edges are glued from the factory.
Two together would be badass.

ace028 19-12-2009 11:48 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KPFTa5rCs8

quick vid.

ace028 04-01-2010 11:45 PM

I found that I had a bonded rotor in the novak motor, so I got a 12.5mm sintered rotor from a fellow racer, and installed it, and man what a difference, I only drove it in the house in the living room on the hardwood floor, but I noticed significant braking improvement and more throttle response. I can't wait to race it!!!

ace028 05-01-2010 01:37 PM

Where should I start with setting up my car for this track, thanks.


heres a link
http://www.capefearraceway.com/default.aspx

RogerM 05-01-2010 05:10 PM

Start with Tebo's set-up (look on Kyosho America site, support section) and work from there :)

ace028 05-01-2010 11:57 PM

Thanks, I forgot I already asked in the begining of the thread lol, I will set it up like his car. I sort of forgot because I am building my B44 with his setup as well, and that he switched from AE to kyosho.

This track i'm going to run at is huge!!!

ace028 09-01-2010 11:20 PM

New charger!!!! This is replaceing my Dynamite Vision Peak Ultra, its like the same charger but updated! My old one works great but at 2.5 max charge rate for lipos it takes forever to charge my 4000 mah packs. This new one charges at 8amps.

Pics.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/e...C/DSC02183.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/e...C/DSC02184.jpg
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http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/e...C/DSC02186.jpg

ace028 10-01-2010 03:36 PM

In my parts that came with the car I notice there are white shock pistions and black. I am setting up my shocks right now to tebos setup, I dont have 37.5 oil so I am going to use 35 front and 30 rear as that is all I have at the moment. The old oil was pretty dirty so they should be much nicer once I refill them.

Anyways It has a 2-B pistion now, and I am putting the 3-B in like tebos setup but want to make sure that they are white pistons because I found black ones too but not 3-b style if that makes since lol.

ace028 10-01-2010 03:40 PM

Upon closer looking I found that they say what they are on them lol. The black ones dont though.

RogerM 10-01-2010 04:44 PM

All the pistons commonly used are on the white parts tree.

Be careful when you trim the tab that attached the piston to the parts tree, it's easy to leave a bit attached or worse nick some out of the edge as the piston material is softer than some

ace028 10-01-2010 05:05 PM

Thanks, I carefully trimmed the pistons, cleaned out the old oil and filled them. These shocks are super nice, I hate filling shocks but these just bleed so nicely!!! I wish all AE shocks were this nice!!

I have adjusted most everything to tebos setup. I just need to change the front axle height spacer and adjust the ride height


I don't know if I have the 7 deg castor block or the law36 and law37 or have the UM521 arms for the. How can I tell? I also need the #72 shock spring for the rear.



Do you guys leave the dirt shield in front of the motor on? It makes it hard to get the motor out or change pinions.


Also I bought a new body for it, a proline vortex but it dont fit. Is the FS take a different body then the reg zx-5?

RogerM 10-01-2010 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ace028 (Post 329529)
Thanks, I carefully trimmed the pistons, cleaned out the old oil and filled them. These shocks are super nice, I hate filling shocks but these just bleed so nicely!!! I wish all AE shocks were this nice!!

I have adjusted most everything to tebos setup. I just need to change the front axle height spacer and adjust the ride height


I don't know if I have the 7 deg castor block or the law36 and law37 or have the UM521 arms for the. How can I tell? I also need the #72 shock spring for the rear.



Do you guys leave the dirt shield in front of the motor on? It makes it hard to get the motor out or change pinions.


Also I bought a new body for it, a proline vortex but it dont fit. Is the FS take a different body then the reg zx-5?

In order mate ...

The shocks are the best 1/10th off-road shocks I've ever built, fill them with oil, make sure shock shaft is fully extended, screw cartridge in till it stops, unscrew 1/2 turn then slowly push shock shaft in, hold it fully home as you tighten the cartridge fully = perfect shock every time!

The casot blocks will have been included with the original kit (they will have R7 and L7 moulded on them ... the 10deg ones are R10 & L10 as if you couldn't have guessed ;) )

Not 100% sure but I think Tebos set-up is essentially using the stock rear hinge pin positions but using the LAW36/37 ali mounts purely for the shiney blue (and a little bit of extra strength and tuneability). Leave the wishbone hangers as stock till you can get the ali LAW36/37 parts and I'm sure the car will be fine!

I thought that Tebo used the #68 blue spring which is kit standard? #72 is a little stiffer than we normally use but then again I don't run on your sort of track surfaces.

UM521 are the RB5-SP arms, they are slightly longer than stock (LA243 is the same length arm but with an extra, more outboard, shock mounting hole). This arm will give you a little less side-bite than stock but make the car feel a fraction more stable, again something we don't normally run in the UK so it's not something I can comment on. I'd get out there and try the car with the stock arms ... can always get the extras later.

The Proline body is for the ZX5 & zx5-SP which are shorter than the ZX5-FS. If you don't want to run the very pretty stock body then a BJ4 / B44 shell fits perfectly.

Can you please post a link to the set-up your following, I don't recognise the details you have posted from any of Tebo's set-ups I've seen!

ace028 10-01-2010 07:08 PM

i'll post the setup link when I get home. I got the kit second hand so I don't have the extra springs for it. I think I do have the 7 deg caster blocks. Yeah I think I will run it as is for now, our track is quite large and I'm sure will get very bumpy once the 1/8 cars run on it so the longer arms may be good.

ace028 10-01-2010 07:10 PM

the original body is very nice though, I just don't really like pink lol.

ace028 10-01-2010 10:17 PM

Here is the setup sheet I was using.

http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/downloa...2009-07-30.pdf

RogerM 10-01-2010 10:49 PM

Body you need is LAB04

I'd not seen that set-up sheet before but it does make interesting reading, thanks.

ace028 10-01-2010 10:57 PM

Thanks.

Which lipos are you guys using that are perfect fit? The SMC 4900 pack is perfect fit right now. I was looking at
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...0mAh-Pin-Style

But I don't think it will fit without moding the chassis.

RogerM 11-01-2010 10:56 AM

Robotronic 4600 35C .. perfect fit, don't even have to trim the NiMh retaining tabs on the chassis!

Apparently this is exactly the same dimensions as the trackpower dark series so I guess they will fit too bu tnot seen any to try.

ace028 11-01-2010 01:18 PM

I wonder if these will fit?
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ry-74V-6000mAh

My smc's are 45.75mm wide according to the advertisement. I will measure them later with my venier caliper.

RogerM 11-01-2010 03:49 PM

Guess they maybe too tall. The Robotronics only just fit under the topdeck with a 2mm lead shim below them!!!

ace028 11-01-2010 10:43 PM

Some better pics of the car.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/e...S/DSC02191.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/e...S/DSC02192.jpg
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ace028 11-01-2010 10:44 PM

Opps double post.

kek23k 11-01-2010 11:54 PM

Nice looking car you got there :D

ace028 12-01-2010 12:06 AM

Thanks.

ace028 12-01-2010 02:43 AM

I just ordered the trackpower dark series lipo. So I will report how it fits once I get it. Thanks.

ace028 15-01-2010 12:12 AM

Perfect fit RogerM!!! Thanks for the info. Now I need to install connector, and find what sort of harness to use for balancing.


http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/e...S/DSC02199.jpg
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