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eugine 15-04-2018 09:52 PM

b6 nose down
 
Hi guys
I run a B6 on a very flat and grippy astro surface with big jumps.

My B6 is flying dramaticaly nose down. I am obliged to accelerate at maximum in the air to flatten the car. Sometimes it is not suficient and it lands verticaly :(

Any idea to improve that ?
My set-up:
Little drag brake
Front shocks: Red springs, 45 Losi oil, standart pistons
Rear: Blue springs 37.5 Losi oil, standart pistons
Ride high 18-19 mm

Thank you

cornishboy176 16-04-2018 04:32 AM

I would say take the Drag brake off completely

cjm_2008 16-04-2018 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cornishboy176 (Post 987192)
I would say take the Drag brake off completely

^this^

plus it's an easy thing to try. No need to fart about with weights. When a 2wd car is in the air it doesn't take much braking to get the front end pointing downwards.

eugine 16-04-2018 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjm_2008 (Post 987195)
^this^

plus it's an easy thing to try. No need to fart about with weights. When a 2wd car is in the air it doesn't take much braking to get the front end pointing downwards.

I already removed the front weights, lets says 15-18gr, with very few improvement.
I will try with no drag brake. Thanks to both.

charlesk 16-04-2018 08:06 AM

Also consider your rear shock package. Sounds a little too stiff, not familiar with Losi oils, but 37.5wt on the rear sounds thick, combined with stiff spring (blue) could be kicking up the back end over the ramp pitching the nose down....
Ideally need to see the car in action to advise better, but that's a thought. Most b6s that I've seen jump well and a look nicely adjustable in the air.

cornishboy176 16-04-2018 09:14 AM

What surface do you run to go with 37.5 rear oil, most run about 32.5 max

eugine 17-04-2018 07:59 AM

I run a very flat surface of concrete (old tennis terrain) covered with very high grip astro.
and we have big wooden double jumps (covered with astro also)
At this rates Losi wt oils nearly equal to Asso.

We run very low cars (18mm)

Allan1875 17-04-2018 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eugine (Post 987244)
I run a very flat surface of concrete (old tennis terrain) covered with very high grip astro.
and we have big wooden double jumps (covered with astro also)
At this rates Losi wt oils nearly equal to Asso.

We run very low cars (18mm)

That's not actually that low, we run that on bumpy astro, if it was flat id be running more like 16-17mm.

As above, too much drag brake will dip the nose, I run about 8% on my 2WD. Other stuff such as angle of your shocks and anti squat plays into how your car jumps also.

MiCk B. 17-04-2018 11:23 AM

Hi,

Sounds like the rear oil springs are too heavy. Looking at the conversion chart.

Losi 37.5 oil to equivalent to AE 35.

I'm running on indoor astro, astro is laid on concert floor, with wood jumps.
Rear I'm running 30 ae oil (32.5 losi oil) 1.7 piston and 2.1lb spring.
I have no problems with jumps, running 17mm ride height.

(Track video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYkHF9op5A4)

Let me know if you want full set-up sheet.

MiCk B. :-)

eugine 17-04-2018 01:48 PM

Hi Allan and Mick

This is the track we have at the end of this page

http://www.automodelisme.com/forum/i...Posts;start=60

Seems as flat as yours maybe with bigger jumps ?

Mick: Yes if you can send your set-up please I can compare both and try your shock set-up :thumbsup:

eugine 17-04-2018 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiCk B. (Post 987250)
Hi,

Sounds like the rear oil springs are too heavy. Looking at the conversion chart.

Losi 37.5 oil to equivalent to AE 35.

I'm running on indoor astro, astro is laid on concert floor, with wood jumps.
Rear I'm running 30 ae oil (32.5 losi oil) 1.7 piston and 2.1lb spring.
I have no problems with jumps, running 17mm ride height.

(Track video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYkHF9op5A4)

Let me know if you want full set-up sheet.

MiCk B. :-)

Very cool track :thumbsup:

MiCk B. 17-04-2018 02:00 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Hi,

Thanks, track is indoor, so space at a premium, but doesn't get rained out.

The blue astro on yours is nice.

Set-up attached.

Any questions, just ask.

MiCk B. :-)

eugine 17-04-2018 05:15 PM

Many thanks !


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