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butty1978 24-05-2015 07:09 PM

KF2 or B5M
 
Schumacher KF2 or Associated B5m I can get either but not sure which one if I choose KF2 have to save for it is it worth the extra money or am I better to get the B5 m.

fivepointnine 24-05-2015 07:55 PM

What surface are you running on? B5M's were designed for and excel on US style indoor high traction clay tracks. KF2 was designed for high grip Astro and carpet.

butty1978 24-05-2015 08:14 PM

Mostly astro and also indoor on carpet and cork

Ashlandchris 24-05-2015 08:25 PM

Or get a YZ2. Seems to be good everywhere!

fivepointnine 25-05-2015 06:01 AM

YZ2 is a very nice buggy, although a bit expensive.

neallewis 25-05-2015 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fivepointnine (Post 913247)
YZ2 is a very nice buggy, although a bit expensive.

See i think the exact opposite on the price.
Sure the kit price is a little more on the YZ2, but it has everything to run in the box, and is way more durable than a Schumacher.
The KF2 on the other hand has stacks of needed hop ups to get you anywhere near what the team run, and plastic parts are so brittle you need to carry bags of spares. I see the price as what you spend in a year to service the car not just the kit cost.

If running on high grip, its a kf/2 and yz2 for sure. I'll say look at the team C car slso. The b5m is a us style clay track car mostly.

ralphee 25-05-2015 07:30 AM

Ive broken one part on my YZ2 since racing it from release, a front bulkhead in a crossover slam, that would have nailed anything, the car is so tough and fast.
My buddy runs a KF, which he is super rapid with, but has broken a ton of plastic bits over a short time.

lee

bretts 25-05-2015 08:00 AM

butty1978, I see in your sig that you've a DEX210 already. I'd say that a B5M wouldn't be a great deal faster than well set up DEX210 maybe. I've heard some people say that the B5m has too much rear end grip so the steering stuffers. Although I've also seen a B5m go like a rocket (which is probably the driver).

Anyway, if I was in the market for a new 2wd it would be a YZ2, they seem to just be the business. I would want to compete and do well at regional level with it at least. At club level then I think any dog can have it's day.

Welshy40 25-05-2015 08:28 AM

Anythings better than Durango, but is true about schumi, they break easily. Yokomo is a very good car but think if i was to choose a 2wd i would have the serpent as the reviews are very good and the car looks planted.

knighthawk 25-05-2015 11:22 AM

I'm at a loss as to the slating the Schumacher is getting.
I've owned my KF for 18 months and the only thing I broke ( screws pulled out ) was a front bruckhead and that was my fault for trying to take a double double whoops as a quad and landed on the front shock tower.

Any car will break if abused, every car has their pro's and con's, ask a club member if you can drive their car and see for yourself.

neallewis 25-05-2015 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Welshy40 (Post 913254)
Anythings better than Durango, but is true about schumi, they break easily. Yokomo is a very good car but think if i was to choose a 2wd i would have the serpent as the reviews are very good and the car looks planted.

The serpents that I've seen running have all have had snapped chassis's. not a cheap part, but does break easily.

OneKiwi 25-05-2015 01:04 PM

Thats the old chassis problem which is now fixed.
Serpent is a great car with very few extras needed. Its is one tough buggy at a great price.
There are so many doing extra things to other cars to get more of this or more of that. youll see a lot of that in teh YZ section. minimal in the srx

There should be a sticky..
Go to your club and have a look and feel and a drive if you can. See whats driven mostly there and look at one of those.
There is also a want factor, you don't have to have what everyone else has but it makes tips and spares easier

The_chosen_one 25-05-2015 01:15 PM

I've had both cars, I loved my B5m as it was soooo easy to drive and setup at least for me... But on high grip astro I did feel a little held back with the B5m. But since Ive had the kf2, I've preferred it over the B5m, its not as easy to drive but once setup its a really nice car to have and Im able to push as much as I can with it. But if your racing on carpet and cork id go for the B5m

grimidol 15-06-2015 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by neallewis (Post 913249)
See i think the exact opposite on the price.
Sure the kit price is a little more on the YZ2, but it has everything to run in the box, and is way more durable than a Schumacher.
The KF2 on the other hand has stacks of needed hop ups to get you anywhere near what the team run, and plastic parts are so brittle you need to carry bags of spares. I see the price as what you spend in a year to service the car not just the kit cost.

If running on high grip, its a kf/2 and yz2 for sure. I'll say look at the team C car slso. The b5m is a us style clay track car mostly.

It is right in saying that a lot of team drivers are running the rear end of the bmax 4 on there YZ2 ?

Fozzy1989 15-06-2015 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by grimidol (Post 915678)
It is right in saying that a lot of team drivers are running the rear end of the bmax 4 on there YZ2 ?

a lot of drivers are running BMAX4 arms with BMAX2 dogbones. The arms are longer so increase stability, seems to work well from my experience on astro/high grip.

Cheers
Chris

grimidol 15-06-2015 03:49 PM

Put all those parts on the price of the car.

Ashlandchris 15-06-2015 04:35 PM

I am running a YZ2 in bog standard kit form. Runs like a dream. I'm sure you can spend heaps on any car, but straight from box it drives beautifully.

Fozzy1989 15-06-2015 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by grimidol (Post 915732)
Put all those parts on the price of the car.

£20 in total, hardly breaking the bank. Just bear in mind this is a tuning option and not essential. The car goes awesome kit spec, any one of these kits B5M or KF2 you are going to purchase tuning options so your point is not a very good one.


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