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henga 05-09-2008 01:08 PM

xcelorin cogging
 
Hi

I have just fitted a 6400kv Losi xcelorin into a Pred with a 16t pinion.
I have a problem in that it coggs when accelerating from a stand.
I have changed the motor timing but it does not make any difference.
I have also loaded the latest firmware which has made no difference.
Any ideas?

Thanks

Alex

ashleyb4 05-09-2008 01:11 PM

what cells have yougot?

A

Wraggy 05-09-2008 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashleyb4 (Post 156718)
what cells have yougot?

A

why would that make a difference ?? :confused:

DCM 05-09-2008 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henga (Post 156716)
Hi

I have just fitted a 6400kv Losi xcelorin into a Pred with a 16t pinion.
I have a problem in that it coggs when accelerating from a stand.
I have changed the motor timing but it does not make any difference.
I have also loaded the latest firmware which has made no difference.
Any ideas?

Thanks

Alex

humour me, is that a sensored or sensorless motor, and what is the ESC...

As for cogging, that can be a lot of things, even down to a poor connection. Try to use minimal amount of connectors, direct solder to the motor if possible too.

ashleyb4 05-09-2008 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wraggy (Post 156724)
why would that make a difference ?? :confused:

Beacuse poor quality cells can cause cogging.

A

i4n 05-09-2008 04:35 PM

Steve, I'd hazard a guess that it is a non sensored motor as I think the Losi motors rated in Kv are non sensored, with the "turns" motors being sensored.

henga 05-09-2008 11:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DCM (Post 156725)
humour me, is that a sensored or sensorless motor, and what is the ESC...

As for cogging, that can be a lot of things, even down to a poor connection. Try to use minimal amount of connectors, direct solder to the motor if possible too.

It looks as if it is a sensorless motor.
The ESC is a LOSB9515.
I am using TrakPower 4900mah lipo sticks.
Everything is properly soldered with no extra / unnecessary connections.
(see pic)

Attachment 3829

DCM 06-09-2008 09:12 AM

right, if you have decent solder connections, decent cells, then it is either how you got the ESC setup, gearing or firmware. Now cogging is where the ESC can't determine where the rotor position is, normally only from standstill, now you can try gearing down, but the cogging would still be there.

What option for setup are there on the esc?

henga 06-09-2008 09:33 AM

The settings I have via a USB connection are,

Battery type Nimh or Lilon/Lipo with Cutoff Voltage -
Brake/Reverse - Throttle Limit - Reverse Throttle Limit -
Motor Timing - Initial Acceleration - Braking Percent -
Percent Drag Brake. (Radio) Legacy or 2.4GHz - Neutral Deadband -
Reverse Rotation.
I can also program Throttle and Brake curves.

DCM 06-09-2008 10:07 AM

the best ones to play with, is the Motor timing, initial acceleration and neutral deadband....

Make sure you have your voltage cutoff set though.

With some sensoreless systems, there is always a small amount of cogging.

ben 06-09-2008 10:28 AM

Where's preddy when ya need him lol


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