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Graeme 03-02-2009 10:51 AM

CVDs on XXX-CR - good idea?
 
Hello all,

First post here and hoping you guys can help me out. Wondering about putting CVDs on a XXX CR. I notice there have been several versions over the years during the BK versions so my question is this.

1) Is fitting CVDs a good idea - everyone else seems to do it (X Factory, Associated etc)? I race mostly indoors on carpet with the occasional foray onto the dirt when the weather improves. What can I expect to gain or lose in the performance dept with CVDs

2) If it is a good idea which ones? BK or BK2 or TIR for BK2?

Cheers

Graeme

bbq 03-02-2009 02:41 PM

CVD's will give you less grip and feel less smooth over bumpy sections.
But it feels like you get more acceleration with CVD's

Thats my opinion.

/Daniel

ashleyb4 03-02-2009 04:35 PM

The std bones seem fine really ide leave them as std.

A

Danny McGee 03-02-2009 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashleyb4 (Post 204457)
The std bones seem fine really ide leave them as std.

A

A simple asnwer to this would be.

CVD's give more drive i.e forward traction, but you loose out on side bite. Because of this the car tends to feel like it power understeers more.

Dog bones are the choice of 99.9% of the losi guys (my opinion it should be) as the losi has a LOT of traction anyway (im still trying to get rid of some) the dog bones therefore give more side bite. Which in the world we race in is lovely :)

Obviously this is just my opinion but i think thats right :)

Danny

Southwell 03-02-2009 09:12 PM

I only run dogbones in both of my cars.

ashleyb4 03-02-2009 09:22 PM

I run dogbones in the cr and cvd's allround in the xx4.

A

Rocking Donkey 03-02-2009 09:47 PM

I may be being a bit dim but...
 
I'm a little confused. I have just bought a BK1 on eBay with CVD's. I don't really understand how the style of driveshafts can affect the grip level and would be really interested in the mechanism for this. If someone could explain this to me it would be much apprieciated

Cheers

Ben

MiCk B. 03-02-2009 10:21 PM

When the power is applied the CVD 'wants' to straighten out. So providing more drive forward, with less side-bite.

MiCk B. :-)

Graeme 04-02-2009 09:29 AM

Seems like it's a case of if it ain't broke don't fix it then. Thanks for the help - I'll be back with other questions later...

Cheers

Graeme

General Accident 04-02-2009 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Southwell (Post 204641)
I only run dogbones in both of my cars.

:confused: On my XXX-CR there are dogbone ends into the gearbox outdrives but the hub end has a bloody great white plastic "universal joint" er, joint. Have I got hookey shafts???

ashleyb4 04-02-2009 05:58 PM

Yea dogbones are the UJ's

A

Southwell 04-02-2009 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by General Accident (Post 204940)
:confused: On my XXX-CR there are dogbone ends into the gearbox outdrives but the hub end has a bloody great white plastic "universal joint" er, joint. Have I got hookey shafts???

There are two types. Ones which the white bit screws directly into drivshaft and ones which are held together by a pin and grub screw (xxx-cr standard)

pugboy 21-02-2009 09:58 PM

This might be a problem I have been suffering, never realised it was a factor in side bite. I too bought a Losi used off ebay and it had gold CVD's ( I think) something like these

http://www.losipartshouse.com/servle...fdsh-XX/Detail

But I also have the plastic ones but have never tried them as assumed they'd be inferior, but they still seem to be a 'dogbone' on the gearbox outdrive and uj at the other, but an assembled type uj with an allen bolt throught the middle. Arethese what people refer to as 'dogbones'?

When I was a lad (long time ago) a 'dogbone' driveshaft had a separate drive cup at the outer (hub) end and the actual shaft was separate.

confused... (doesn't take much!) :D

Chris

Fiddybux 21-02-2009 10:19 PM

Oh bejesus....I never realised this.

As soon as I got my CR I took the standard white plastic bones out and put XXXBK CVD's in.

This could explain why when I feel the need to control the rear end side more.

I will defo try the standard bones on this to compare.


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