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kek23k 26-01-2011 11:21 AM

Mr.Stafford's FS2 Steering mods
 
Just wondered if anyone had managed to snag/steal a template for Ellis' steering rack mods, shown at Petit? Anyone else tried these? Any feedback about them?

MikePimlott 26-01-2011 12:01 PM

Everyone ive seen try it has been positive about the change.

Roger M is currently having some new parts made in CF

blitzboy 26-01-2011 12:27 PM

yer steering mod is a huge improvement on the car i ran mine at petit with it also and have to say it so much nicer ,,, just need roger to sort out the full rack now

Darren Boyle 26-01-2011 12:49 PM

No need to wait for the idea to be ripped off guys..... Ellis is working on the CAD right now and this part we hope will be avialable as a genuine E-SPEED part shortly for the FS2.

There are several other parts in the pipeline too that others may not have spotted being used too, but in light of the ideas being used these will be kept a little quieter until potential release

If you want the genuine bits produced to the exact and correct specs and dimensions, best to wait for Ellis's own items in my opinion.......

mdb_75 26-01-2011 02:52 PM

To give my FS more lock on the outside wheel I put a 2mm spacer under the steering rack balljoints to push them forwards and also moved the front wishbones rearwards by 2mm. It's transformed mine.

mattb 26-01-2011 04:05 PM

ive got 2mm behind my ball studs but i havent done that with the wishbones i will try that

Gayo 26-01-2011 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdb_75 (Post 456550)
To give my FS more lock on the outside wheel I put a 2mm spacer under the steering rack balljoints to push them forwards and also moved the front wishbones rearwards by 2mm. It's transformed mine.

How do you do that? By shaving the wishbones?

mdb_75 26-01-2011 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayo (Post 456592)
How do you do that? By shaving the wishbones?

Yeah I filed 2mm off the rear of the wishbones and then used 2mm plastic washers (like that come with the wishbones anyway) on the hingepin, infront of the wishbones to push them rearward.

Pics......

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...00585small.jpg

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q..._75/6small.jpg

RogerM 26-01-2011 05:07 PM

My parts should have been ready before Xmas but as many of you know I'm somewhat time limited at the moment :(

Scorpion has to be my priority with the limited time I have available for RC related stuff. That said I too have some interesting parts in the pipeline for the Kyosho cars and a couple of others ;)

I keep looking at the front wishbone mod as shown above, very popular in the states. By doing that you are also moving the weight further forward in the wheelbase .... will suit some but not others.

kek23k 26-01-2011 07:58 PM

Oops, not trying to tread on anyone's toes and quite happy to wait for production 'E-Speed' mods, I was more curious as to whether anyone else had been running similar mods and what the general opinion was on them. I'm not even racing at the moment so it is just a general interest in design changes :D

Darren Boyle 26-01-2011 11:50 PM

Hi, dont worry you are treading any any ones toes. Just keen to ensure that Ellis's "tuning parts" dont all get copied by onlookers looking to cash in on his ideas....

kek23k 27-01-2011 12:05 AM

Cool :). I actually wasn't aware that there would be any official E-Speed stuff for the FS2 so that's good news :) Will the ackerman mods be incorporated into the rack brace? I think that would be quite elegant and probably a bit stronger too.

Looking forward to seeing what other products appear :D

njc11 27-01-2011 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMS Racing (Post 456827)
Hi, dont worry you are treading any any ones toes. Just keen to ensure that Ellis's "tuning parts" dont all get copied by onlookers looking to cash in on his ideas....

:lol: oh dear...:thumbdown:

I think you'll find people are trying to make an already good car much better... i dont think it is a question of people trying to cash in or copy..

Any experienced top class racers with knowledge of rc cars, in this instance Ellis Stafford is an asset to the brand... who can help push the development forward must be a good thing.

Any parts developed for this car to improve it will be welcome, who ever thinks of it or designs it..and to share said mods on the forum to fellow Kyosho drivers is surely a good thing??

I knocked up the steering mod out of a piece of 2mm c/f and it certainly does improve the car! :thumbsup:

Nick

Fabs 27-01-2011 07:44 AM

Funny,

I went to opposite way with the steering on my own car and found it made the car a lot more consistent, especially on high grip... I guess it's a matter of tastes ;)

Oliv996 27-01-2011 08:05 AM

Whatever the personal mod you made on your car, your mind always self convinces it's better with it :D

Fabs 27-01-2011 09:04 AM

I got the result on the weekend that I made the mod to back it up, how's that for convincing?

jimmy 27-01-2011 09:21 AM

You and Ellis should go head to head then to see which steering mod wins! :p

Fabs 27-01-2011 09:24 AM

LOL

I think if we were to race each other we all know who'd be the winner regardless of cars, let alone steering mod. Besides I didn't change the steering, I only changed the ackermann setup to something that isn't available normally.

njc11 27-01-2011 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabs (Post 456888)
LOL

I think if we were to race each other we all know who'd be the winner regardless of cars, let alone steering mod. Besides I didn't change the steering, I only changed the ackermann setup to something that isn't available normally.

You run Tamiya now though so how can you compare! lol!! :p

It wont be long before your back to the FS2 pal! :thumbsup:

Fabs 27-01-2011 09:47 AM

When they make it a belt drive then I may switch back :lol:


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