Tyre Rules For Maritime Racing

[Maritime]

Dear Racers

Please help

We are trying to work out which tyre rules would be best at Maritime Racing Off Road Venue

So please see poll attached

When voting please think of all races ability
I.e beginners to A final nationals

The rule we would like in place would be a rule that would encourage
the largest number of racers to use the new Maritime Racing venue

And feel keeping the cost down would help this

Thank you for your help

Ian Knight

[Maritime]

Hi

Please help by posting your reasons for your vote

Thank you

Ian Knight

[MHeadling]

To be honest Ian a tyre rule wont really matter as 99% of the people attending will run staggers and mini pins.

I wouldnt enforce a tyre rule as alot of people want to use up old worn out yellows from outside that still work pretty well on carpet and makes the racing cheaper and will bring more people through the door.

I would just open the track up and let the people come and race, us off roaders don't like too many rules, we are a bit more chilled than the TC brigade!

[blue_pinky]

Just a thought...is the best rule for tyres not to have a tyre rule?

I know for our Caldicot club, leaving it open has never caused any probs...I think most people know that minipins are the tyre of choice for the fastest drivers, but some of the newer/less experienced/slower runners like mini spikes as they are more forgiving...it's a choice how competitive/serious you want to be then

[discostu]

Ian totally agree I think the only rule that should be in forced is no additive rule no off road meeting should allow additive.

Keep it simple lets not create work for you guys

Stu

[Maritime]

Originally Posted by blue_pinky

Just a thought...is the best rule for tyres not to have a tyre rule?

I know for our Caldicot club, leaving it open has never caused any probs...I think most people know that minipins are the tyre of choice for the fastest drivers, but some of the newer/less experienced/slower runners like mini spikes as they are more forgiving...it's a choice how competitive/serious you want to be then

Hi

Thank you for your post

As stated minipins are the fastest this is the worry for the
Club and why the poll was made.

We are worried if no tyre rule is in place
Drivers that do not use the minipins will
feel that they need to use them to
Be able to keep up.

This could then stop drivers attending
Coz they do not want to keep spending
Money on tyres each week

Hope I am making sence

Ian knight

[Maritime]

Originally Posted by discostu

Ian totally agree I think the only rule that should be in forced is no additive rule no off road meeting should allow additive.

Keep it simple lets not create work for you guys

Stu

Hi stu

A no additive rule will be in place

But back to the tyre rule if left open
Would we not get the below

If u have say 100 races

The top 10 what ever they use will not worry

The bottom 60 again just enjoy racing and not worry
The mid 30 complain that they need to buy new minipins each week
So stop coming coz of cost

Ian knight

(please note this is not me telling you this is just
Trying to make maritime racing a place that drivers want
To come to for fair racing )

[discostu]

but on the other hand ian mini pins will ware out faster and us off roaders dont want to spend the money every week

its a catch 22

i would hope to be able to run at the sharp end and i will not spend the money on pins every week that's why i gave up tc racing.

its your call buddy im sure you will make the correct decisions.

stu

[discostu]

Originally Posted by Maritime

Hi stu

A no additive rule will be in place

But back to the tyre rule if left open
Would we not get the below

If u have say 100 races

The top 10 what ever they use will not worry

The bottom 60 again just enjoy racing and not worry
The mid 30 complain that they need to buy new minipins each week
So stop coming coz of cost

Ian knight

(please note this is not me telling you this is just
Trying to make maritime racing a place that drivers want
To come to for fair racing )

yeah you are spot on they may complain but they will also keep turning up every week

[Maritime]

Originally Posted by discostu

but on the other hand ian mini pins will ware out faster and us off roaders dont want to spend the money every week

its a catch 22

i would hope to be able to run at the sharp end and i will not spend the money on pins every week that's why i gave tc racing.

its your call buddy im sure you will make the correct decisions.

stu

Hi
As your quote u want to be top end
But want to keep the cost down

This is why we are asking for the help to get
This right as if in your case or any other drivers being at the top
End and have to run minipins that wear out
After a week will start make the top races the ones with the biggest
Wallet
And pos losing races like yourself

Ian knight

[blue_pinky]

Originally Posted by Maritime

Hi
We are worried if no tyre rule is in place Drivers that do not use the minipins will feel that they need to use them to Be able to keep up.

This could then stop drivers attending Coz they do not want to keep spending
Money on tyres each week

We have certainly not found it to be an issue at Caldicot, and the club has been running weekly for over 20 years!...it's all personal choice at the end of the day.

For me at least, it's club racing, and is not about the sharp end as such! Racing at the sharp end is doing your regionals, nationals and one off big events...that's where you really invest in your racing as that's where it means the most.

Club racing is week in week out, the racers know the score, they know who the quick ones really are, the ones they can compete with and who they can't, and who they are aiming for in the long term. And everyone manages their own costs according to what they can afford.

I suspect having some people on new and some people on old tyres each week just adds to the variety for those who are competing within themselves, and that probably just keeps it interesting...at the end of the day it's toy cars and hanging out with your mates and should just be all good fun and good practice...leave the rules and regulations for the big competitions!!

Just my opinion of course, but we've always kept our club racing as relaxed as possible, and don't even run club championships as it just starts arguments about rules and regulations! We do however run occasional one off race series to add different classes...vintage and trucks for example...and leave the big classes...2wd, 4wd & micro's to have their big comps outside club time....there are so many choices for competitions these days it seems daft to add to that party too much!

The club is now as popular as it's ever been and we don't see our setup changing any time soon

[discostu]

its certainly a difficult one to call.

im sure you will get the answer.

what you may find and others may agree the drivers who race outdoors will want to use up what they have the indoor only guys will use the faster tyre i would probably use up tyres until the build up to a big carpet event.

my vote is for open tyre rule

stu

[discostu]

also to add what pinky has said FORCC has adopted the same there there is an open tyre rule but for 99% of the club runs full spikes the odd 1% can run a mini spike and still win.

for example if i were racing at marritime on mini pins and winning and lee martin came along on mini spikes and whooped every body would it matter no i think the off road scene is much more layed back and it wont matter.

ps your poll doesn't have a open tyre section i have no where to tick.

stu

[jackeltrader]

I have to agree with a no rule-rule!?!
Tyre wear is relative, I don't burn through tyres like the top boys because I am much less aggressive and I presume we can use harder longer lasting compounds on carpet because the grip levels are mental already!? I could be wrong?
Also Ian I know you said it will not be pure carpet but mixed surface so it will be like most things, a compromise, mini pines etc would be good on the straight, mini spikes, d/boots on the mixed surfaces - it swings in round abouts...thats the beauty of it!
Also you said the track will change regularly so a tyre for one layout might not be the best for another if the surfaces/ features change....I reckon open rule all the way, letting people work on setups etc is a great part of the sport - I for one would not like someone telling me what is best for me to use if they have never driven my car with my setup the way I drive!
If you could add an open rule in the poll it would be appreciated

[contrast]

Open rule for me.....

[AK.customz]

+1 for open tyre rule

[s22jgs]

i dont think a tyre rule should be in place until the venue has at least run a few meetings.

At west berks for example, the more worn the tyre is the better it performs. I have some completely slick rear pins that are faster than at any stage they had any dimples left.

The tyres all cost the same, so id say no restrictions would be better.

But definately no addetive.

If the commitee feel there is a need for some kind of restriction, maybe it should be along the lines of a set limit. ie, you are not allowed more than one set of new tyres per week. it worked at EOS

[Col]

Open tyre added to poll

[TARTMAN]

Tyre rule, no rule, open tyres, no foams or additives, but any rubber will do.

IMHO.

As mentioned, will mean anyone can come and race what ever thay have, If they have to buy a certain tyre, it may put them off.

voting no control tyre!

[David Church]

I think a "No tyre rule" is right to start off with. You want as many people as possible racing. As time goes on things may change and the rule may want to be looked at.