XXX-CR set up help needed

[Chidders]

I need some help on my set up, The main issue i have is i cannot carry any corner speed (the car just wants to swap ends) it is a wallowing pig. orange rear blue front springs. this is on carpet and im using mini pins all round.

[migsy]

get a 60 oil in the front with blue springs. std piston (use the middle holes on the shock tower and wish bones for shock position.
-1 camber use the camber pick up on the inner side to make it as long as possible, this should take the snatch out of the turn.
1deg toe-in. this should take you in quickley but alow you to come out with no oversteer.

get a flu-yellow spring on the back with a 35oil in the shock std pistion. (use the 2nd inside hole on rear shock tower and 2nd hole on wishbone to place the shock body at the rear.
use -2 deg camber inner pickup on shock tower - middle pick up on upright block. use 2.5 toe-in block on the rear (standard)

this is how i've set mine up and it went well for me.

hope this helps.

reguards..Alan

[Chidders]

Hi Alan.

Many Thanks for your input, i will give this a try for thursday (race night) an give you my feedback. thanks again. should you have any further ideas please let me know.

many thanks Rob

[rcjunky]

trim a row off the inside and outside of the front tires, that should help alot, full mini pins if the front have too much grip, I use to run a full width rim with 1 row trimmed of the inside and outside with blue front springs, red rears and 55wt oil all around

[migsy]

another tip for indoors:

use some foams on there, donut 37's. you can get these at rc-direct.co.uk

cheers..Alan

[Chidders]

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[Gareth Jones]

Get rid of the mini pins up front, go for a staggered rib or something with less bite.

Gareth

[Chidders]

Also the when cornering the inside front wheel is catching air ? Thoughts

[Dr_UpGrade]

Change to black front springs and red rears.. sounds like you've got more grip than what to do with.. which generally on carpet with a rear motor car is 'hard' to acheive! -well done! 'normally' xxx-cr's have trouble generating enough front end grip!

[jcb]

It's been a while since I have driven a XXXcr but came across the following when having a sort out the other day, it was from running nimh's, but might be a good starting point:

Front
35wt oil
#56 piston
blue piston spring
Shock position outside on arm 2 on tower
1mm limiter fitted
Camber link position 2 B with 2mm under bulkhead ballstud
spindle height bottom
Camber -1 deg
Ride height wishbones level
short vla

Rear
30wt Oil
#55 piston
Red Springs
Shock position outside on arm 2 on tower
Camber link 3 E with 1mm washer under hub ballstud
2.5 Degree anti squat
long wheel base
Camber -1
Ride height driveshafts level
short vla


Mini Pins all round, two outer and one inner row of pins removed from front and rear tires.

I've also got a note about running a ballstud on the front hub kingpin instead of B on hub. Think this required some filing of the hub, and then mount the camber link in hole 3 on the bulkhead.

[Chidders]

Thanks Gents, i have taken all of your info and am trying all of the above to see what works best for me. But any further info pls forward. Thanks Rob