Aero Racing - A-One

[jimmy]

Lee Martin TQ'd and Won the first UK 4WD National at Tiverton this weekend with a brand new car he'd never raced before. The car is the Aero Racing 'A-One'. The Car Lee used is a prototype, but the team intend to release the car in a consumer version for every to buy without all the custom machined parts, instead moulded carbon composite.

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/aero01.jpg

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/aero02.jpg

[rich_cree]

Look at the way the car is floating, must be all the bubbles!

Nice one Lee! :)

[DCM]

any more pics? website? info man, we want INFO

[Lee Martin]

yeh....she was orange flavoured bubbles!!!!!

cheers creenus!!

[Lee Martin]

www.aeroracing.eu (http://www.aeroracing.eu)

[jimmy]

loads of pics - tonight.

[DCM]

so it is a production Durango, ace!!!

[BenG]

We need more pics, Jimmy hurry up man hehe,


Let me see if my watch can fast forward time.

Only thing is, they stole my aero name :-(

[Lee Martin]

hate to say t...but the aero name was not registered anywhere????

so not stolen at all....

[ryan]

I have quite a few, i will upload them on photobucket:p Not quite as good as jimmys im sure lol

[BenG]

hate to say t...but the aero name was not registered anywhere????

so not stolen at all....

yeah, I wa planning on using it for my prototype 2wd car, but never got round to actually registering hehe.

You beat me fair and square. Which I dont mind, cos I ma sooooooo buying one of these :D:D:D

It looks awesome. Plus I can make a new name now. I like barracuda, but its taken.:confused:

[BenG]

yes, I have pics.


wowowowowowowowooww :p

I need one

[OldTimer]

Well done Lee on the win and your 1st national win ;), slim cars are the future lol.

[BenG]

I agree, we dont want any stodgy 20 inch wide chassis' anymore :D

[ryan]

Well done Lee on the win and your 1st national win ;), slim cars are the future lol.

I got quite a few of doughty's S4 to, i will upload them for ya:)

[Lee Martin]

do it ryan...

yeh jonathon, SLIM!!!!

cheers mate

[Chris Doughty]

check out that other narrow car in the background hunting you down :p

Well Done on the Win Lee, and Also Team Aero, should be an interesting season!

[Lee Martin]

yeh, cheers....pushed all the way by another slim car!

roll on kiddi!

[ryan]

The link for the pics of the Aero:
http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t291/Ryan_B4/

Ryan

[jimmy]

It was great to see these three small manufacturers leading the A main. Aero Racing, Atomic Carbon and XFactory. great stuff.

[footey]

do we know a price for one of these as it looks smart

[BenG]

I hope its cheaper than a durango.

Jim, I agree with you mate. JConcepts, X factory, Atomic Carbon and AERO, its great :D

[Lee Martin]

retailing around 500 euros.....

so around £330

[footey]

when r they available
:)

[Lee Martin]

first batch will be ready inaround 2 months....

pre order list should be up within the week.....

[_sleigh_]

Great result Pidge, really chuffed for you. :)

[Lee Martin]

thanks phil!!!!!!!

yeh its something i have really wanted for along time!!!

[strobe]

Pidge. Few questions for you.
Will the guys from Aero who were with you yesterday, be coming over to all the Nationals or was that a one off.
How easy is the car to work on.
How do you rate it to the other cars you have used.
Did you get to test it before sunday.
Did look like it was dialled to the Tivvy track.

[Lee Martin]

never driven the car on dirt before.....

had a different one for a week testing on my track.

car is very simple to work on!!!!!!

It looks as if aero are going to be at all, if not most of the nats...with help and advise for all people who buy the car....

[Chrislong]

Pidge, well done on your first national win dude, you drove really well and it wasn't before time. ;)

[strobe]

The Aero Team must be well chuffed of the result you gave them Lee and will certainly help them sell a few more of there cars.
Nice journey home to Belgium for them.

Bring on Kiddy?

[jimmy]

Not sure if we got photos, but they were crazy-happy, hugging lee and each other! haha.. One of the few teams I've seen come to 10th electric racing, and it was nice to see their commitment.

[Aero Racing]

We just want to say that after all the hard work that went into the car and all the other stuff it was great to see Lee perform that way. He never drove it on dirt before and after just 3 minutes of practice to put in a TQ round... you can just say ..wow! All credits to him he did a superb job!

[_sleigh_]

The Aero Team must be well chuffed of the result you gave them Lee and will certainly help them sell a few more of there cars.
Nice journey home to Belgium for them.

Bring on Kiddy?

They were probably home before Emily :D

[strobe]

Aero Racing.
When the car is available to buy will there be different kit options available.

[Nick Goodall]

We just want to say that after all the hard work that went into the car and all the other stuff it was great to see Lee perform that way. He never drove it on dirt before and after just 3 minutes of practice to put in a TQ round... you can just say ..wow! All credits to him he did a superb job!

I spent Wednesday up at Lee's and watching the "practise" version going round his track was impressive enough. I did two quick laps and could see why he was so impressed with it, and that was on Bald tyres :D

I think when he runs it this Sunday at his "high" grip track it will suprise people even more, the sheer cornering speed and acceleration was just mind blowing.

[Lee Martin]

ROLL ON KIDDI!!!!!!!

lol

[Body Paint]

Didn't get chance to congratulate you Sunday Lee, I didn't want to interupt the the nuptules you seemed to be enjoying with the Team Aeros, LOL. I figured a thumbs up on your way out would be intimate enough for me;)

[Lee Martin]

yeh cheers craig!!!

i noticed it!!!

lol

[woOdy]

who is pidge? is he a good driver or something? only joking. nice one dood. Love u man. knew you could do it.

[woOdy]

We just want to say that after all the hard work that went into the car and all the other stuff it was great to see Lee perform that way. He never drove it on dirt before and after just 3 minutes of practice to put in a TQ round... you can just say ..wow! All credits to him he did a superb job!

Just to say it was very nice to meet you all and you have picked the best driver to show off your product. Hope you guys come and see us soon and well done again. P.S I am the guy that SOKED Lee at the end of the day.:D :D :D :D

[Lee Martin]

thanks stu man!!!!

myown make shift dad, always there to lend a hand, give advise or cheer me up.

love ya man.

thankyou

[Spencer Mulcahy]

Wish I had waited now before I got the XX4 that looked the muts a few questions.

Who will be the distributer (bad spelling)

Will spares be available

Can you fit a brushless in it.

How much is a XX4 worth :)

[Lee Martin]

lol...

for now it will be sold directly...and spares wil be carried by shops, the main one being the race place.

yes you can fit a brushless in.

sell the xx4 before too many people get wind of the Aero!

then it will be worth more!!!

hehe

[ashleyb4]

Looks cool lee. Good luck with 2007 with it. By the sounds of it and the way it performed at tivverton it should be ace for the rest of the season.

A

[gramey]

:) It appears to be true that all good things come to those that wait!
I'd seen the Durango a little while back and I was bitterly disappointed that you couldn't buy them. I'd been mulling over whether I could justify the cost of an S4 each for my son & I and then I saw this. Guess I'll be having to do some more overtime at work now!
Will there be a version available with the aluminum parts or will they be available as hop ups?
:)

[Lee Martin]

upgrades will be available.....

unsure on what aluminum parts will be on the car yet. have to ask Mr Aero

[Aero Racing]

There will be upgrades / hop ups but first we will sort out the "standard" boxes. Next step will be alu-parts or coloured parts. Can't give you a date on that for the moment. Most important thing is getting the boxes ready asap.

Regards
Aeroracing

[Cooper]

what is the connection with Belgium?
just the company that will make the "Durango" for Gerd is located there?

German designer, Belgian factory and UK (lee), German (Jörn), .... team drivers ? :)
Yihaa, multicultural!

[Lee Martin]

as far as i know gerd has nothing to do with Aero.

Aero is new and has all in house designers, molders and team members...

right bob?

[Aero Racing]

thats right Lee. It's a new company who does everything inhouse

[PaulRotheram]

AHHHHHHHHHH bob bob bob bob bob bob i gettit now!!!!








sorry :)

[Cooper]

oooooooooooooh hahaha

Dag Bob :)

[Sebastian]

thats right Lee. It's a new company who does everything inhouse

So some kind of belgian copy brand? :confused:


Sorry, just kidding! :D


Seriously, how dod you manage to get hold of a Durango to dublicate it? I always thought Gerd loves to be an underdog waiting for the one big deal with AE, Losi or someone else. :rolleyes:

Cheers

Seb

[Aero Racing]

First of all it's not a dublicate! The concept idea is the same but the car will be in graphite with alu parts . Secondly we've made a lot of changes to the car, the steering is different, major changes to the geometrie (front and rear) etc...
But we don't need to defend anything I guess, we bought the rights on the car and used the concept, quite simple:)

We talked about the idea with Gerd and if he was interested selling the designs, he agreed. That's how it all started...

[Sebastian]

Hi!

I just read about that in Jimmy's Tiverton report. ;) Thanks on clarification. Any plans of making Gerd's 2WD "Plan-B" also? Or will you have your own design?

Cheers

Seb

[Aero Racing]

Everything is designed in house, with support of the university. Plans for the future... first of all it's getting this car ready then we'll see what happens or not happens:).

regards
Aeroracing

[TRF_Tastic]

First of all congrats on the win at Tivvy, bloody good job!

Second of all congrats on such a superb looking car, with some very nice and neat little touches.

I do have a couple of questions though.

1. Will a standard size servo fit in the car, or is it low profile only?

2. How will the torsional rigidity be affected by the change in chassis material or will you be using a top deck to enhance this?

Other than this 10/10 for a top effort and I wish you all the best of luck with the project and the future.

[_sleigh_]

Another question after looking through Jimmy's excellent photos.

What are the dimensions of the area where the speedo fits?? Will the new chassis allow for larger speedos?? It just looks tight with Lee's Novak GTX.

[wrighty]

Can i have one please will put a deposit down if needed



When can i buy one and how will the spares back up work will we have to buy direct .

[Aero Racing]

Thanks for the congratulations, we'll busy sorting out the servo area because till now it's only a low profile one that fits in. This has also an effect on the balance. The rigidity will not change at all, the material which we are going to use can handle the forces that occur. It's not a standard plastic or graphite material. Hope you questions are answered.

regards
Aeroracing

[Aero Racing]

There just fits in a brushless speedo ( i guess that is what you wanted to know:)) . We tried the brushless but we at team Aero asked Lee to run a brushed motor this time.

Regards
Aeroracing

[Aero Racing]

There will be a reservation list on the website very soon. By the end of this week or at the beginning of next week. You just have to sign up. People will be able to buy the spares directly through the website but also probably via Lee in the UK.

Regards
Aeroracing

[Lee Martin]

and the race place

[gramey]

:) I know the old saying goes 'if you have to ask you can't afford it', but I'm sure it's a question several looking at this forum would like to know the answer to, what's the likely price?
Are we talking a bit of domestic unrest or out & out divorce proceedings?
:)

[Lee Martin]

the price has been answered throughout the forum.....

the aero will be around 500 euros. so £330 pounds ish.

[Sebastian]

Here's a pic of Benni Gröschels Durango with an LRP Sphere he raced in 2005 (?). Hope that helps ... :)

Cheers

Seb

[Lee Martin]

pic not working sebastian?

[Nick Goodall]

What happened to Benni? I remember racing him at the Euro's quite a few times!

[Lee Martin]

ooo no she wrks....well theres a brushless in a durango and the aero has a bit more space.

due to new steering

[Sebastian]

What happened to Benni? I remember racing him at the Euro's quite a few times!

Benni retired due to his adjucation stuff at the university. I met him last year at the German 2WD Nationals (his only race in 2006) and he attended at an indoor race in Germany in February. Others than that he is not racing at the moment. :(

Pic should work now ... :o

[Sebastian]

well theres a brushless in a durango and the aero has a bit more space. due to new steering

I saw a pic with a Sphere mounted behind the steering (IIRC) but I can't find it anymore ... :(

[MattADH]

Sebastian - get on with some work!!!!

Matt

[BenG]

lol.

Woudl MAttADH happen to be the editor of ADH's RC Racer magazine?:confused:;)

[Sebastian]

Sebastian - get on with some work!!!!

Matt

:wtf:

;)

[MattADH]

I am afraid that Sebastian has nowhere to hide! He is our the Editor of the German edition of Racer and keen off-road racer too!

[telboy]

Hey, well done lee, good result.

shame you couldn't have got that shell to though.:rolleyes:

Nice one.;)

[Lee Martin]

i know....

but i will have one for you to do very soon!

[BenG]

I love that shell shape, very swish, colors wise, its a bit bland lol

[dave g]

nice one lee..dont make it too long before the next win :)

ill speak to you at next rallyx national..thats if you can bring yourself to race a nitro again now :)

dave

[Lee Martin]

yeh ill be at southend........

see u there dave!

[gramey]

the price has been answered throughout the forum.....

the aero will be around 500 euros. so £330 pounds ish.
:( pidge, Sorry I must have missed the bit about the price I didn't mean to duplicate things that had already been answered.
:(

[Lee Martin]

dont worry dude.....

its a good price, so people may as well see it more than twice....lol

[emzy]

Everyone seems to be buzzing about the Aero...

Spanish Forum - http://www.cochesrc.com/foros/aero-aone-durango-vt114277.html

French Forum - http://petitrc.com/_forumphp/showthread.php?t=28741

They're all loving it! :D

[BenG]

Has anyone told them when it will be released?

The french forum in particular.... This is one thread I translated for you

olefiloux (http://petitrc.com/_forumphp/member.php?u=3247)

That car is fantastic!..... Is there a price or release date?

[bigred5765]

more oople pics ??
do they have a permission slip?

[Lee Martin]

how do i translate it all?

[Wraggy]

how do i translate it all?

you can copy and paste using this site http://www.freetranslation.com/
but it can be a bit random as to what gets translated. but you can get the jist of the conversation ..:p

[BenG]

use google language tools, or ask me, I know a moderate amount of french ;)

http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en

[Southwell]

http://translate.google.com/translate_t

[millzy]

Ask Emz to translate it for you pidge in both spanish and french

i can do it for the welsh::)

[emzy]

I can translate if anyone needs it... I'm even a member there, check ME out.

Lee - if you want to post something give me a yell and I'll Frenchify (or Spanishify) it for you.

[Lee Martin]

i need help with all of it..............

add me to msn

leemartin_uk@hotmail.com

[bigred5765]

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cochesrc.com%2Fforos% 2Faero-aone-durango-vt114277.html&langpair=es%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

use this link it has the page already translated

[Lee Martin]

its cool all sorted now thanks to the amazing linguist............

self proclaimed!

ahem.........

[emzy]

Haha, well I AM that great. Ahem.

And the problem with all your online translators - they don't handle racing language or slang well AT ALL. So you get a load of rubbish back!

[Arn0]

Has anyone told them when it will be released?

The french forum in particular.... This is one thread I translated for you
You forget to mention something in your translation, related to the logo and Belgium, know what I mean :p

Translation needed, can ask me too, can handle both, in fact english is the weakest I handle :(

Spanish forum is must more technical than the french one!

[emzy]

You forget to mention something in your translation, related to the logo and Belgium, know what I mean :p


That bit made me laugh! :D It was a bit random!

And the Spanish forum - its hard work!

[Cooper]

Hey Lee (or Bob),

does the Aero also need a weight scale + 'thing' to adjust the slipper (or diff?)?

I know Bob has one for his Durango and if not set correctly the car wouldn't drive nice or break gears or whatever. I already forgot what Danny told me ...

[Lee Martin]

well it doesnt need it...but its advised.....

anyone can make one, but im sure aero will sell them.......

and scales... Argos it........

its an genius idea, solves all problems that BJ such cars have with set slipper.!!!

[BenG]

That bit made me laugh! :D It was a bit random!

And the Spanish forum - its hard work!

lol, that's why I left it out.

[grindog]

Hey Lee (or Bob),

does the Aero also need a weight scale + 'thing' to adjust the slipper (or diff?)?

I know Bob has one for his Durango and if not set correctly the car wouldn't drive nice or break gears or whatever. I already forgot what Danny told me ...


Very confused? Whats all this mean please?

[Aero Racing]

Some things in these posts catched our attention and we would like to make some remarks about this :

First of all we want to emphasis that this car is NOT a Durango! It's an Aero car and it's called A one. Secondly mister Strenge was NOT involved in the development of this A one car. This was all done in-house. So it's not right to use the name Durango when you are talking about Aero Racing. This is added to take any confusion away , if there may be confusion in any way (because we mentioned from the start that this is not a Durango).

Aero Racing

[bigred5765]

i think he is confused about the weight scale thingy, for the slipper, as am i

[Aero Racing]

i think he is confused about the weight scale thingy, for the slipper, as am i

There will be a tool available to adjust the slipper very easily. It's developed that way that you can't brake the diffs if you follow the setup that you get after using the tool. Hope everything is clear now?

Regards
Aero Racing

[Lee Martin]

the weight thing is a very sexy idea.

using a special tool you place the tool on the scales, force the slipper until it slips and it gives you the amountof slip you get at the force you set it to.

for example setting it to slip at 230 g's of torque............confused????

its easier to show people how it works lol!

[tjf]

So where do we pre order?

[bigred5765]

awsome idea very clever all clear now thanks guys

[Mrs oOple]

So where do we pre order?

Pre orders will be taken through the website I believe, which is due to be online next week some time as far as I know.

[Cooper]

Some things in these posts catched our attention and we would like to make some remarks about this :

First of all we want to emphasis that this car is NOT a Durango! It's an Aero car and it's called A one. Secondly mister Strenge was NOT involved in the development of this A one car. This was all done in-house. So it's not right to use the name Durango when you are talking about Aero Racing. This is added to take any confusion away , if there may be confusion in any way (because we mentioned from the start that this is not a Durango).





*What is the relation of this car to the Durango, and why isn’t the original name used?*
We bought the stuff off Gerd Strenge in January this year, although we have been developing the product for a year now. The name Durango cannot be used due to Chrylser registering this name for one of their products.

*Have any changes been made to the car since you took over?*
Yes, the steering, diffs, geometry. It will have a graphite moulded chassis instead of aluminium, due to the cost of machining an aluminium chassis.



This is a bit confusing isn't it...
It's not a Durango anymore! That would be a more correct answer.


;)

[Lee Martin]

pre order web page should be up at the beginning of next week!!!

get in early!!

[grindog]

Will the cars be coming from belgium? If so, is there a possibility of Import duty on top of this price?

[wouter.z]

mhh probably not, its inside the european union. I never had to pay taxes if i ordered something from the Uk.

About the scale thingy. Can it be used on a BJ4?

[andy05]

Can the slipper be used as a slipper .As in not like the bj we which once set shouldnt be adjusted between rounds becaues of the thread lock setting in time.I konw its 4wd but i really wanted to adjust the slipper on my S4 at tivy but was worried about it coming lose mid race.Also would it fit the bj drive.Its a very very good idea having a tourqe meter on it though.

[Lee Martin]

its a perfect slipper....we change it, running 230 g of torque on astro. 170 g on dirt!!

funky tool!!

[gramey]

:) Aero Racing, Will the aluminium chassis be available as a hop up?:)

[Lew]

The car looks the nuts :o I didn't see it at tivvy, but saw it with lee at CML.. Looked rappid :O Apart from when it kept overheating on the like, last lap n stuff, but yeah, top car. the thing i would like to know, is the 'A-One' going to be the new xx-4?!?!... And also, what about the parts? Are they cheap or expensive? if it does become the new xx-4, God hopes the shassis wont be 60-70pounds :O ???

Thank you :) If this makes sense :yawn:

[Lee Martin]

how do you mean the new xx4??

over heating was a speedo problem i think....although me and daz were over heating. lol..... and southwell! so it wasnt the car.

i think the pricing of parts you will find to be very attractive! not in a gay way bathy!! ahem

[Lew]

well, i mean it dominating or being a 'top car' for the next 10years or however the xx4 has.. thats what i mean buy it :P

And you where filming on sunday? anywhere we can watch those films or ?? ...

[Funkymojo]

Anyone have any idea will the Aero A-one buggy be available after all? It'll be really nice to own one....

[jimmy]

I think they are busy working on the car still

[Funkymojo]

I think they are busy working on the car still

It'll be great if they are still working on the car...was kinda worried that they'll be forced to stop working on the car...

[Lee Martin]

its getting closer...and new parts are being tested along the way...
expect to see some at kiddy!

[Funkymojo]

its getting closer...and new parts are being tested along the way...
expect to see some at kiddy!


Sounds good Lee...any idea if it'll be available in the next 2 months or so? Cheers

[Lee Martin]

yes....it should be quite soon!

[Funkymojo]

yes....it should be quite soon!


Wow that's great...:)

[SHY]

I hope its cheaper than a durango.

Jim, I agree with you mate. JConcepts, X factory, Atomic Carbon and AERO, its great :D

Was (is) it possble to buy a Durango? (Thought it was only team drivers) How much?

[maxoo]

do you have news??

[Cooper]

they tested in kampenhout (belgian GP track) this Saturday :)

[Northy]

and CoOple?...... :confused:

G

[Cooper]

I wasn't there, just heared they were there :)
I was at a 200mm nitro EC with Elvo.

[elvo]

I was at a 200mm nitro EC with Elvo.


SSSShhht!

[MattW]

ON ROAD
that's blown your cover ;) :o :)
SSSShhht!

[elvo]

It was semi-involuntary!


BTW, Matt, are you coming over for a secret test session @Kampenhout as well?

[Funkymojo]

Any pics of the production model?

[stickman310]

Hi,
Just wondering if there are any pics available of it with the body off?

Thanks

[Wraggy]

Hi,
Just wondering if there are any pics available of it with the body off?

Thanks
the production model or the prototype that Lee is running ???

[SHY]

They were supposed to have been shipped last month. And still nobody has seen any pics of the production parts. My guess is they are far behind schedule...

Not being able to find a good argument for not showing any pics I guess it's simply not ready yet... ;)

No matter how long time it takes I just hope they can pull it off!

[Wraggy]

i was talking to KIm form aero last week at Southport and he said its about 3 weeks away hopefully ??
hope this helps ??

[Bathy]

I guess 'knocking out' the current 4wd championship winning car takes longer than I hoped, but at least it comes with a pretty good winning record, not bad for a new release… will this be the first 1/10th off road buggy launched with a UK national win in the bag prior to its release? Or has it happened before?

I'm a little biased regarding the Aero car I admit, I've eaten a Chinese with the team and they are really nice people.

[Nick Goodall]

I guess 'knocking out' the current 4wd championship winning car takes longer than I hoped, but at least it comes with a pretty good winning record, not bad for a new release… will this be the first 1/10th off road buggy launched with a UK national win in the bag prior to its release? Or has it happened before?

I'm a little biased regarding the Aero car I admit, I've eaten a Chinese with the team and they are really nice people.



I "think" the Predator may have done..... i know it won first time out but can't be sure if it was available or not at the time??

[burgie]

as far as i remember, the predator WAS NOT available when it first won....
it won when everybody said the design wouldn't work, by about 1 lap!

[stickman310]

Anymore info on this yet? How about some body-less pictures? I know there are a few deep inside a few of jimmy's galleries.