TRF502?

[stegger]

Fit the rx in on its side, you should get a normal size servo in then.

[PaulUpton]

Looks like a full size servo to me, also them bits layed out look like a converstion kit.

[AaronR]

NiMH cells in a modern car makes me giggle.

[Reo]

old fasion motor mount... bad choice...

[DCM]

NiMH cells in a modern car makes me giggle.

worse still, the car is actually designed for LiPo cells and not nimh's

[Mr. Red]

NiMH cells in a modern car makes me giggle.

Me too. Not very "block shaped" ;)

[Diesel]

Two positions for the pack, good idea.:thumbsup:

[Fredrik Emilsson]

"Only" 3 holes in front damper tower.

Wonder if it will develop any slop in the front alu suspension mount? Hinge pin wears out the alu. Would mean that you have to change a big piece of metal.
Time will tell. Maybe not a problem.;)

[kentech]

http://rc-japan.de/THS2010/IMG_0760.JPG

[Nige]

Has there been any mention of a new bodyshell for the TRF502? Couldn't see one in any of the photos.

[DaveG28]

That exploded parts pic is confusing....the diff case tree appears to have a diff clamp on the far right (it looks a lot like the 801 part), but you need two of them per diff!?

[stegger]

Like the battery bar and holders dave ;) It's going to be slow on a 1S cell :p

That exploded parts pic is confusing....the diff case tree appears to have a diff clamp on the far right (it looks a lot like the 801 part), but you need two of them per diff!?

[muratti]

It looks like the Diff tree has a cover for the Spur Gear on the upper left side of the tree which you could maybe use instead of the blue aluminium if it´s very muddy? Might be wrong...

[muratti]

Has there been any mention of a new bodyshell for the TRF502? Couldn't see one in any of the photos.

I would guess they are planning on doing a new shell for the 502X but haven´t got it ready maybe. I am sure if they don´t present it on the Hobby Show (and there was no presentation of a new Bodyshell) it won´t be released in conjunction with the kit that´s why i hope the 511 body and undetray will fit.

[stegger]

Muratti you could be right, tamiya didn't supply a shell with the 201 ( couldn't understand why ) so maybe they might do the same with the 502

[peetbee]

That's what I don't understand with Tamiya, not including tyres I get, but no wheels or shell is just wrong, especially for cars where only one shell will fit.

[muratti]

Muratti you could be right, tamiya didn't supply a shell with the 201 ( couldn't understand why ) so maybe they might do the same with the 502

Yes but with the 201 they released the body at the same time as the Chassis which i guess won´t happen with the 502X :cry:

[MRD]

That parts picture gives a big clue to there being a budget version.

On that parts tree is a plastic center spur mount and a plastic bearing cover. These look unused in the TRF kit due to it having alloy but I bet its the same parts tree used for the budget car. I bet there's another parts tree in production with a plastic front bulkhead and the pivot block holders on it. Throw in a another tree fro the towers, a moulded chassis and a cheapy plain ally motor mount and you have it :).

[stegger]

Google conversion for 68250 Yen is around £525 - hope it actually appears a little cheaper than that....

I think I'll get one and keep the 511 - compare them back to back on different surfaces....

Champ rc is quoting 37,800 yen = £290 :)

[muratti]

Sounds nice but i think Hongkong seller will sell earlier than Champ, i had an email chat with Champ and they told me that the Hongkong seller do not stick to the Tamiya rules which say that Japan must be the first who sell a kit, don´t know why. I think if it´s the same as with the 201 Singapure will be the first to sell. I know a tamiyaclub member that can get the kits earlier than the Hongkong seller so i think i will buy from him again.

[TRF_AK]

The body will be the same as the TRF511 for now. As for why the kit does not come with a body; there some "political reasons" for that. Not that is is right, just the way they work. Hopefully Tamiya America can provide the body and wing much like they did for the TRF201.

[feniks]

it looks all good bud I still want a close up off the internal gears.

[GRIFF55]

so where would be the best shop to buy from to get one of the earliest kits then? Quite looking forward to trying the car. The 511 is going to take some beating!!

[muratti]

so where would be the best shop to buy from to get one of the earliest kits then? Quite looking forward to trying the car. The 511 is going to take some beating!!

I think best Shop is Stellamodels to buy one of the earliest kits. If you know someone in Singapure who can buy at the big warehouses though, you might have the kit a few days before Stella gets them...

[Fredrik Emilsson]

When you look at that diff case tree you realise that you will have to remove the topdecks to access the gearboxes...
8-10 screws to access gearbox then.

Motor mount/bulkhead is different, not same as shown on CAD-drawings. Maybe better?

As mentioned before, the plastic center bulkhead and the spur gear cover probably means that they will make a base model. Told you so...;):lol:

[kentech]

Team driver 502

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c99/kentech/502kono.jpg

[DaveG28]

I noticed on the other pics from Japan they don't seem to use the Ali front castor blocks on the car, I guess thy are heavier than the standard plastic!?

[DaveG28]

Nope, not a typo. When Tamiya says "inch sized" they are referring to the fact that the balls used are measured in standard terms instead of metric. So, instead of the traditional style 3mm diff balls, these will be the 3/32 from the TRF201 and FF03. All Tamiya diffs seem to be going this way since the 417 will also be using this style diff.

Out of interest anyone know yet if the 502 uses the same diff as the 417??

Because I think Tamiya are releasing gear diffs for the 417...

[DCM]

Dave, not to sure, as the 417 is Belt and the 502 shaft...

[fastinfastout]

Out of interest anyone know yet if the 502 uses the same diff as the 417??

Because I think Tamiya are releasing gear diffs for the 417...
haha

[muratti]

Are those wheels of the TRF502X from the factory driver Associated ones?

[GRIFF55]

Team driver 502

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c99/kentech/502kono.jpg

????? what do you mean?

[DaveG28]

haha

Don't get me wrong, I am well capable of stupid questions, but don't see what's so dumb about that one:confused:

1. The 415 and 501 shared the same diff, so it's not dumb to think the new ones might!?
2. There's a Tamiya part number for a 417 gear diff, so that's not dumb
3. There's a Tamiya employee posting on this thread, who may well get parts number lists/more info earlier than the rest of us, so may know the answer before release. So that's not that dumb either....

[Fabs]

Dave that not quite right. 415 and 501 shared some diff parts. Like diff pulley, rings etc, but you couldn't put a 415 rear diff in a 501 or the opposite. It was from the ta05 that the 501 took it's drivetrain.

Either way in order to have a gear diff they'd need a completely different pulley on the 502 so unless they do that you won't be able to run it. As for gear diff in the 511 maybe the ta05 geared duffs might fit...

[fastinfastout]

Out of interest anyone know yet if the 502 uses the same diff as the 417??

Because I think Tamiya are releasing gear diffs for the 417...

Don't get me wrong, I am well capable of stupid questions, but don't see what's so dumb about that one:confused:

1. The 415 and 501 shared the same diff, so it's not dumb to think the new ones might!?
2. There's a Tamiya part number for a 417 gear diff, so that's not dumb
3. There's a Tamiya employee posting on this thread, who may well get parts number lists/more info earlier than the rest of us, so may know the answer before release. So that's not that dumb either....
I think its quite safe to say the 502 and 417 diffs have nothing in common besides 'possibly' the diff/thrust balls.

I mean, the 502 is shaft drive, the 417 is belt drive.

I dont see how you could think the diffs could possibly be interchangeable !

the dumb post was as a joke, but it seems you really are dumb by still thinking you are possibly correct :D

[DaveG28]

Fabs, the outdrives were the same as well I thought from what I remember, I had both at the time although it was a fair while ago! I had a TA05MS too so maybe I am thinking of that!

Both, surely you can actually run belt or shaft and have virtually the same diff except for the pulley/gear, you simply change the outer part of that part to either fit against the pinion coming in, or a belt over it. The outdrives/screw/thrust/balls/plates etc could all be identical. Don't get me wrong, I doubt they will be, put t's easily doable...

Maybe I really am dumb, but having the same diff but different pulley's sounds quite sensible to do in terms of economies of scale etc to me!

[DCM]

It depends Dave on how far they off-set the pulley on the belt drive, as that dictates the size of the outdrives, as with a shaft drive, the pinion/crown wheel size dictates the off-set.

There is nothing to say that the 'internals' could be the same, but the rest would be different.

(DB-01 and TA05 outdrives are the same... I know, as I got a DB01 diff in the front of my TA05...)

[muratti]

I just realized that on every picture that i have been seen to date i can´t see how the TRF511 Undercowl can fit on this Chassis plate. There are no holes for mounting the Undercowl. Will there be a special Undercowl or did Tamiya show a prototype Chassis plate on the Tokyo Hobby show?

[DaveG28]

I just realized that on every picture that i have been seen to date i can´t see how the TRF511 Undercowl can fit on this Chassis plate. There are no holes for mounting the Undercowl. Will there be a special Undercowl or did Tamiya show a prototype Chassis plate on the Tokyo Hobby show?

The team driver car at the top of the page is using the cowl side plates mounted above the main chassis plate, hopefully the full version will also fit beneath! You can use the spare battery mount holes (whichever posiition your not using) or even really just screw through the cowl as well when putting the battery holding pieces on. On the front hopefully it will at least go under the bumper as the 511 does' then use sticky tape!!

Which are the Ali seer o miunts I've seen on various 511's and the above 502 pic, anyone know? More bling is always good!

[muratti]

Thanks Dave you are absolutely right! I wonder where the side plates are mounted on the front side? Screwed together with the Servo or just fixed with double sided tape?
However this is no solution Tamiya would make for a series production car. That why i think they must release a new undecowl. Second possibilty is: the main reason why there are no holes for the old NiMh batteries is that there won´t be an Undercowl and there might only be the naked Chassis plate which you could protect with Chassis protection tape.
As for the Aluminium servo mounts i have no idea about the part number, i have never seen them, anyone?:confused:

[5POINTSTAR]

I think its quite safe to say the 502 and 417 diffs have nothing in common besides 'possibly' the diff/thrust balls.

I mean, the 502 is shaft drive, the 417 is belt drive.

I dont see how you could think the diffs could possibly be interchangeable !

the dumb post was as a joke, but it seems you really are dumb by still thinking you are possibly correct :D
Feel good about yourself??? :thumbdown: punk

[Fredrik Emilsson]

Totally agree. No need to call someone dumb. If Dave is dumb, then so am I. ;)

I think undercowl will fit. The body fits and it has the same shape?

Think the servo mounts are the TRF416 mount "A". Part nr 3454510
You can probably use #54090 too. Have not tried it though.

[DCM]

The 511's undertray can be left full and mounted below or the edges used and fitted on the chassis, I would assume Tamiya have taken the same route.

[muratti]

I know it is kind of logic that if the body fits, the Undercowl must fit too. I´m just confused about the missing holes in the Lower Chassis plate on the Hoby show pics and if you look closely at the new plastic tree under the Lower Chassis plate on the picture you can see that there are new front and rear bumpers that aren´t as long as the 511 ones to hold the Undercowl in the front and the rear. Maybe Dave is right and there will be the need of double sided tape to mount the front and the rear of the undercowl to the Chassis althouh this wouldn´t sound like a Tamiya solution...

[Fredrik Emilsson]

The 501X had that solution. Only two screws held the undercowl in place. You then used doublesided tape front/rear.
Think most drivers secured undercowl with bulkhead screws as well though.

[kriske]

trf 502= 520€ :( or +/- 462£

http://www.modellbau-seidel.de/index.php?incl=9&sfirma=------+Alle+------&sbest=trf+502&mth3=sinfo

[muratti]

I am sure this isn´t the final price. Champ is quoting 37800 Yen which is 290 Pounds. I don´t think Modellbau Seidel will be 170 Pounds higher.

[muratti]

Final release date in Japan is the 26th November. It could be that Singapure and maybe also Hongkong will have it a few days earlier. :thumbsup:

[marco NL]

Yes!! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Nige]

If it isn't meant to be released yet, how come there's one already listed on Ebay?

Scam or is the Canadian importer being naughty....:eh?:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tamiya-NEW-TRF-502X-Chassis-Kit-42183-501X-4WD-OFFROAD-/130451393025?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e5f824a01

[ravens]

700USD posted plus costums fees,cant miss a bargain like this :lol:

[muratti]

Can´t believe how this shop came across one kit so early. Still a crime that price. Let´s wait for normal prices...

[TRF_AK]

My guess is that he got a sample from the Canadian distributor and decided to try to sell it, instead of using it as a store sample like is intended. Very poor choice.

[muratti]

Does it mean the distributors in each country already got a sample to build for promotion? I don´t think i can hope for that in Austria though....

[DaveG28]

My guess is that he got a sample from the Canadian distributor and decided to try to sell it, instead of using it as a store sample like is intended. Very poor choice.

Is there any chance of a parts lost appearing before the kits? It's a pain to have to get the spares (thinking towers/gearbox cases/gears etc) after the kit arrives, double shipping cost etc!?

[muratti]

exactly what i thought but as it has never been that spares were available before the actual kit i don´t think we can buy spares and the kit both at the same time...

[pete68]

its available at 569.99$ in canada
same pricing as the trf511

[marco NL]

TRF502 on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tamiya-NEW-TRF-502X-Chassis-Kit-42183-501X-4WD-OFFROAD-/130451393025?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e5f824a01

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9678/b7jb1rwbgkkgrhqyokjyeyq.jpg (http://img411.imageshack.us/i/b7jb1rwbgkkgrhqyokjyeyq.jpg/)
]

[muratti]

Yes saw that too but the shipping is a bit crazy... or is it brought to my house via horses? :lol:

[Nige]

Chaps,

Another seller has listed 2 x TRF502 kits on Ebay; with better photos I've noticed that it comes with a TRF511 body and TRF201 wing set within the kit box!! This kind of makes the 502 into a Frankenstein buggy :lol:

I wonder why Tamiya have changed their mind on this release, since cars like the TRF201, TRF511 and DB01R don't include a body+wing. :confused:

:)

[mof]

Chaps,

Another seller has listed 2 x TRF502 kits on Ebay; with better photos I've noticed that it comes with a TRF511 body and TRF201 wing set within the kit box!! This kind of makes the 502 into a Frankenstein buggy :lol:

I wonder why Tamiya have changed their mind on this release, since cars like the TRF201, TRF511 and DB01R don't include a body+wing. :confused:

:)

Wasn't the body and wing included in the US for TRF201? It was in Finland too (was not for sale separately), but it was more of a package deal than a real one box that had everything in it...

[kentech]

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c99/kentech/trf502xadx.jpg

[Mr. Red]

511 available in HK at the moment for those who want one instead of the 502;)

[muratti]

What shop has them? Have you got a link? Stella is still out of stock.

[F1END]

RC-Mushroom seem to have some - Clicky (http://www.rc-mushroom.com/product_info.php?products_id=16594)

[Colinevan]

http://www.tamiya.com/japan/hobbyshow/news1010/report/photo/42183_2.jpg
http://www.tamiya.com/japan/hobbyshow/news1010/report/photo/42183_3.jpg
http://www.tamiya.com/japan/hobbyshow/news1010/report/photo/42183_4.jpg
http://www.tamiya.com/japan/hobbyshow/news1010/report/photo/42183_5.jpg
http://www.tamiya.com/japan/hobbyshow/news1010/report/photo/42183.jpg

Hmm does anyone have any strength queries with the car at all?

I reckon a front corner smash on the tower( corners ) could effectively rip and strip the threads holding the tower on away from the gearbox housing as its now plastic as opposed to alloy. I hated my original zx5 as crashes at the front used to strip the plastic housing very easily - causing the diff mesh to have extra movement resulting in new bevel gears etc etc.

I personally think this car should be cheaper as it has less alloy than the we 501 etc hubs gearbox mounting etc etc.

Just a concern, does anyone else feel the same or what is your opinions?

Col.

[Jan Larsen]

Agreed. Camber link mounts and shock tower mount in plastic is just asking for trouble.

[mattybucks]

not blue enough for me. let me know if any of you guys want to sell your 511's.

[DaveG28]

Agreed. Camber link mounts and shock tower mount in plastic is just asking for trouble.

Possibly, but ask Springer, it's possible to bend the alloy and it's much cheaper to replace plastic, especially if they are sensible and use the same parts front and rear like the DB01.

Proof will be whether it's cheese or strong when run in anger, what I'm concerned on is lack of thread on the ball stud/plastic if you use many spacers, plastic definitely is worse than alloy when it's short thread, as I've found on the 201!

[Smartalec]

Possibly, but ask Springer, it's possible to bend the alloy and it's much cheaper to replace plastic, especially if they are sensible and use the same parts front and rear like the DB01.

Proof will be whether it's cheese or strong when run in anger, what I'm concerned on is lack of thread on the ball stud/plastic if you use many spacers, plastic definitely is worse than alloy when it's short thread, as I've found on the 201!Oh Yeah, definitely possible to bend the alloy (twice) LOL

The 502 will definitely be weaker around the gearbox casings where the shock tower bolts but any car with this configuration will be and Dave's right about the concerns with the ballstuds stripping.

So how many of you have them on order then? :)

[Welshy40]

Never, the only thing worth buying is the aerial mount. Im sticking with the 511 as its stronger.

[Smartalec]

Never, the only thing worth buying is the aerial mount. Im sticking with the 511 as its stronger.
I've not got a problem with the strength, I just don't fancy another shaft drive car.

Did hear a little whisper from a friend in the trade that Tamiya could be releasing a car soon with 8th style diffs ........... TRF-Rango !!!!!!! ;)

[DaveG28]

I've not got a problem with the strength, I just don't fancy another shaft drive car.

Did hear a little whisper from a friend in the trade that Tamiya could be releasing a car soon with 8th style diffs ........... TRF-Rango !!!!!!! ;)

Hmm, hope so, they've done it for the 417, maybe they'll do one/adapt one for the 502 too, not sure they'd bother though!

[GRIFF55]

you picking some up for the boys then amish?;):D

[djmcnz]

not blue enough for me. let me know if any of you guys want to sell your 511's.

Not.going.to.happen.sorry.

I really don't think so, well not unless the 502X proves to be bloody awesome.

I would be hard for the 502X to be substantially better than the 511 and at the moment it looks like it might be just about as good. Having said that, it looked awfully planted in that video a few pages back.

And the swing from belt to shaft? Nope. I think people would own both before they sold a 511 to fund a 502X.

Now, I do have a 501X that I'd sell you to fund a 502X... that's a different story! :)

[Jan Larsen]

Given that the cars have the same suspension setup, they should perform similar. I just dont like all the plastics in terms of durability and a certainly dont like shaft drive. It may be maintenance free(ish), but belts just drive better imo. No torque steer and there's a certain "give" in belts that gives the car a better feel once on the throttle.

[muratti]

I got my 2 NIB TRF502X kits today. Already started building one of them. Very Nice TRF quality as always. Also the Gearboxes are incredibly strong, very hard reinforced plastic has been used. I don´t think they will make much trouble. We will see. TRF511 Bodyset and TRF201 Wing Set are included as well as white wheels. NICE! A nice change is that Tamiya made the manual much smaller to make it fit better inside the box. Maybe they looked to Team Durango :blush:
Here are some pics:

[GRIFF55]

look at all that pretty blue!!! what material do the diff gears seem to be made of?

[Fredrik Emilsson]

Nice Johannes! Where did you buy them? How much did you pay?

[muratti]

Hey guys, the diff gears seem to be made of the same black reinforced plastics as the updated TRF201 are made of although i have only seen pictures of these updated gears. They seem to be tough though.
I bought mine for a nice price in Singapore, i know someone there who can buy these kits for me as the Singapore Tamiya releases always seem to be a bit earlier than the rest of the world.
I paid about 370 Euro for one kit which seems ok to me despite that Champ took about 350 Euro as a preorder price.

[GRIFF55]

Thanks for that! all sounds good there then.
Daveg28 is trying to find some tamiya supplies in singapore on another thread as he is going there. Maybe your friend can suggest him places to go/ deal with?

[Rich D]

Nice new toy there Johannes, did you sell your 511 or are you running this along side ? Be interested to hear what its like to drive in comparison. :)

[muratti]

Hey Rich, i sold my TRF511 some weeks ago but i am thinking of getting a new one. I would also be interested in how the drive in comparison.

[Fredrik Emilsson]

C´mon Johannes, build and post pics!
You are not allowed to visit oople until 502X is ready, ha ha!;)

And we want to see pics of every detail!;)

[GRIFF55]

Any suggestions on where to buy tamiya goodies in singapore too please?

[jamiew]

Yeah pics of the build please im stuck between this and a b44.1

this looks like a great piece of kit

[muratti]

Ok guys, some pics from the build, as always with TRF kits, everything went together absolutely perfect! No problems at all! i still need to install battery holders and electronics.
What´s nice: smaller manual than before, hard hex ball connectors on the important places, not overall though.
Strange: Tamiya didn´t include the WO Universal Shafts but the normal one from the DB01R, TRF501X.
Plastics, especially the gearboxes seem very hard. This should prevent the gearboxes from deforming under heavy load or if you screw the two halves together too hard. In the B44 this was a problems as i could have had an effect of the play between the gears and caused much quicker wear.

[muratti]

Some more pics :thumbsup:

[muratti]

And 4 more

[/tobys]

looks good :thumbsup:

are all those alloy parts in the kit or are they hop-ups?

[Fredrik Emilsson]

Nice Johannes! :thumbsup:

Already added some option parts, huh?;)

Guess the DB01 Aluminum Damper Bushings not are included in kit?
Nor the HL damper cylinders and Hard Titanium Coated Piston Rods?
Does it come with TRF501X Damper Rod Guide Set?

Also added alu caster blocks and new 201 alu rear hubs. AND the blue titanium turnbuckles of course...

So, maybe the 502X WE will have all those options and then when they release the 512 it will be easier to maintain, but not have all those nice bling stuff.

[DaveG28]

It really doesn't even come with the wo driveshafts?

So not only is it less bilgy than the 201, they've even de-spec'd it compared to the 511?:eh?:

Does it come with plenty of shims for the gearboxes?

[Mr. Red]

A 512, that would be nice;). With Tamiya spec diffcovers included in The kit:thumbsup:

[marco NL]

And 4 more


you also have pictures of the differential

many thanks

[Colinevan]

It really doesn't even come with the wo driveshafts?

So not only is it less bilgy than the 201, they've even de-spec'd it compared to the 511?:eh?:

Does it come with plenty of shims for the gearboxes?

What are the wo driveshafts? Not heard of them and what's different about them.

Thanks.

Col.

[simoncrabb]

WO stands for Wide-Operation (I think), so they work at a bigger angle, and therefore allow more droop.

But, to achieve this they need to be 'further out', which requires a different hub (wo hub) or a skinnier inner bearing on a standard hub. (I think it's that way round, forgive me if that's all backwards!)

I'm baffled why they 502X doesn't have WOs...

[Fabs]

first time i heard of those driveshafts... any pics?

[simoncrabb]

first time i heard of those driveshafts... any pics?

:o

They've been around years!

Tamiya item 54118

https://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=54118

[Fabs]

:o

They're nothing special... I fail to see why you think the ones on the 502X aren't the same as those...

[muratti]

All the parts Fredrik mentioned are not Stock. But you can´t really say that Tamiya de spec´d it because for example the 511 doesn´t come with the Hard Hex ball connectors.
With the philosophy of Tamiya it is logic not to include all Hop Ups especially if not all are necessary. It is better for them to release a kit with SOME of them and price it so that people will buy it and let them buy the Hop Ups they want. Of course this philosophy brings more money in because people like the bling :lol:
I will make a list of what Hop Ups i installed later today.

[DaveG28]

:o

They're nothing special... I fail to see why you think the ones on the 502X aren't the same as those...

The WO shafts have the driveshaft wrap around the axle, the older ones have the axle wrap around the driveshaft, thats the physical difference and what I've seen on Muratti's pics seem to show the latter?

As for performance, I think there is a difference, not sue how it translates to lap times though!

[Fabs]

I think you'll find there's no difference whatsoever...

[muratti]

Here´s the Hop Ups List of the TRF502X i made. The only Hop Ups i didn´t install are WO Universals and the Hard Hex Ball Connectors since i thought the WO´s are iuncluded and the HArd hex ball connector are included but only for the important parts of the car. So i let my packages closed until the other weak ones give up:

42118 3x32 Blue Titanium Turnbuckle Shaft (2pcs) x2
42121 3x45 Blue Titanium Turnbuckle Shaft (2pcs) x2
42143 4mm Aluminium Serrated Wheel Nut (4pcs) x1
42132 HL Cylinder for Aeration dampers (Front, 2pcs) x1
42133 HL Cylinder for Aeration dampers (Rear, 2pcs) x1
54205 DB01 Aluminium Bushing (2pcs) x2
54121 Aluminium Horn for Hi- Torque Servo Saver x1
54042 Hard Titanium Coated Piston Rod (Front, 2pcs) x1
54043 Hard Titanium Coated Piston Rod (Rear, 2pcs) x1
54246 TRF201 Aluminium Rear Upright (1.0) x1
53969 TRF501X Stabilizer Set x1
53961 TRF501X Aluminium Caster Block (10 degree) x1
53968 5x5mm Hard Hex Ball Connector (5pcs) x1
53969 5x8mm Hard Hex Ball Connectors (5pcs) x1
54118 WO Universal Shaft Set Front (2pcs) x1
54119 WO Universal Shaft Set Rear (2pcs) x1
4304077 Carbon Battery plate x2

[muratti]

Some more pics from the built Chassis including electronics. Also some manual pics of the parts. I had to trim the Undercowl as per manual and make new holes for the attchment with the screws as the 511 holes won´t fit. Not quite Tamiya but it worked well and looks good.

[muratti]

Some more manual parts pics. Tamiya provided a very nice new tool to make setting up the slipper very easy :thumbsup:

[DaveG28]

I think you'll find there's no difference whatsoever...

It might depend on your setup, I run more droop than most (on the rear anyway) so am more likely to see an effect, never looked at both back to back though to see if the standard one's still work at max droop, so for all I know they do just as well!

I definitely noticed a difference when I switched over on the DB01, but that could just be because I went from old worn shafts to new ones I guess!

[Mr. Red]

Kits available at http://www.speedtechrc.com/store/ebproductdetail.asp?catmainid=52&id=10253

http://www.qtl.co.il/img/copy.pnghttp://www.google.com/favicon.ico (http://www.google.com/search?q=Aeration%20dampers%20included.)http://www.qtl.co.il/img/trans.png

[muratti]

No one ever said that Aerations are not included, i wonder why you noticed that fact? Or do you mean the HL damper cylinders and Titanium Nitride Shock Shafts? These are NOT included in the kit.

[Mr. Red]

My bad:blush:.

[Crazy L]

Certainly wouldn't buy from the States, from where I'd no doubt get raped by customs:thumbdown:

So where in HK are you all buying from and what you paying?

[kentech]

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c99/kentech/trf502x_t1-1.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c99/kentech/trf502x_m1.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c99/kentech/trf502x_f1.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c99/kentech/trf502x_d1.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c99/kentech/trf502x_c1.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c99/kentech/trf502x_r1.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c99/kentech/trf502x_r2.jpg

[Belsten]

Just ordered mine, 3-5 days is going to take so long :(

[DCM]

That looks soooo tasty!

[fastinfastout]

Just ordered mine, 3-5 days is going to take so long :(
where from?

[trowta]

me too...just don't let the wife know....lol

[Belsten]

speedtech

[trowta]

ditto

[Pedros20]

Does anyone know why shops like Rc Mart, Mushroom & Stella Models haven't got the 502 in yet? There's not even Anything saying coming soon?
Doesn't make sence to me when the product is from Japan but only seems to be available in the States. :cry:

[MattADH]

I know that the first batch completely sold out...

[Pedros20]

Really?
I never even saw them advertised?
I presumed they'd not even made it on the shelves yet.
Hope the next batch won't be long!

[MattADH]

I heard that the kit the magazine will get is being shipped next week from the second batch

[blitzboy]

liking the extra holes in the chassis behind the saddle s ,,, more adjust ment of weight good idea looks nice too ,,whats the shell like guys any piccies

[DaveG28]

I know that the first batch completely sold out...

The Japanese places haven't had any yet...

I think RC champ may have got their first batch today, but not sure...

[blitzboy]

looks good i like the extra holes for saddle pack adjustment ,, whats the shell like guys :thumbsup:

[GRIFF55]

I believe it comes with the 511 shell and 201 wings mate:thumbsup:
Sexy car!!

[sime46]

Sod it. I'm ordering one. How much are you all paying for them and do I need anything else for it hop up wise or do I risk it standard? Before anyone asks, I'm deffo not selling my lovely 511. :thumbsup:

[muratti]

511 shell and 201 Wing Set is definitly included in the kit. Maybe Rear Uprights with 0.5 or 1 degree are a useful Hop Up. Other items may be one package of 3x5 har Hex ball connectors and one package of the 3x8 although they provide the har hex ball connectors on the most important places.

[DaveG28]

For those who have the car, does it use 3pm diff balls or 3/32??

I could of sworn the pre-pub said it was imperial, but the gear set for the diff says to use 3mm tungsten balls!?

I've only bought 3/32, do I need to find some 3mm ones now?

[Belsten]

have you got yours already mate ?

[DaveG28]

have you got yours already mate ?

No, no sign in most of the Japanese places yet. I think Japanese release date was yesterday, champ may have them in but I preordered with Stella, and no word from them yet, to me anyway.... Annoying thing is I had a kit in my hands for under £300 last Sunday and didn't buy it, doh!

Has yours arrived yet?

Anyone know on the diff balls front!? Don't want to get a kit the have to sit and wait for diff balls once I have it!!

[sime46]

Cheers fella. I'm getting my order in then. Good old santa. If santa brings it I should miss the import duty eh? Sod it, I'll ask him for two. lol

[Belsten]

No sign of mine yet, the tracking info has said for the last few days it has left LA but nothing since :thumbdown:
Im just going to build with standard balls to start with :o

[David Church]

No sign of mine yet, the tracking info has said for the last few days it has left LA but nothing since :thumbdown:
Im just going to build with standard balls to start with :o

Get ready to be spanked by duty!!! I had some stuff from the wanks not too long ago and I got spanked. Your kit is sitting in customs somewhere why they calculate how much to charge you..................

[Belsten]

I dont think they calculate anything mate, more like just pick a number

Does anyone know if they have a parts list yet ?

[rob8246]

I was checking out a 502X being built today :thumbsup:

Looks good :cool:

[mikeyscott]

Everyone going to be switching then???

[GRIFF55]

depend what you are after i suppose. Alot of people are LOVING the belt drive on the 511, me incl.

[mikeyscott]

depend what you are after i suppose. Alot of people are LOVING the belt drive on the 511, me incl.

Haven't run mine yet and got a few things to sort out on it along with get the electrics fitted.

Won't prob get run before Petit as we're rebuilding TORCH at the moment :(

[David Church]

depend what you are after i suppose. Alot of people are LOVING the belt drive on the 511, me incl.

Go on Wagner, leave the 511 like you left the X factor, in a puff of smoke:D

[feniks]

I am keeping the belt car for the moment . now that I fixt a bether protexion for the rear diff in it. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[JC.]

Hello everybody,
Does anyone know where i could find a electronic version of the manual of the 502x? I would like to see the number of the parts.
Thank you for your help.
Christophe

[mikeyscott]

I'm interested to know what parts (if any) it shares with the 501/511

[discostu]

hey micky

you can pretty much garantee all 4 corners wish bones hubs etc

stu:thumbsup:

[mikeyscott]

hey micky

you can pretty much garantee all 4 corners wish bones hubs etc

stu:thumbsup:

Cool, just building a spares list for the 511 as it's already got the alloy / titanium upgrades :thumbsup:

[muratti]

Hello everybody,
Does anyone know where i could find a electronic version of the manual of the 502x? I would like to see the number of the parts.
Thank you for your help.
Christophe

Yes, on page 18 i made pics of all parts sites of the manual. You can´t read the numbers but you can see which parts are on the 511 and the 502. If you want a bigger version of the manual send me your mailing adress through pm.

[muratti]

The TRF502X is now in stock at Stellamodels for a fair price:

http://www.stellamodels.net/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=5288

[Jamie.T]

Now with RCmart at a much more decent price of $439. AT today's exchange rate that's just £281.67

http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=42183

[GRIFF55]

I'm pretty sure dumbledore on here can do a very good deal if you are wanting one:thumbsup:

[DaveG28]

Mine is on it's way!! :thumbsup:

[Jamie.T]

Mine is on it's way!! :thumbsup:

Where did you buy your's from Dave?

I ordered my few this morning also, will be interesting to compare delivery times and customs charges.

[Belsten]

Mine is building real nice :thumbsup:

[Jamie.T]

Mine is building real nice :thumbsup:

Any pics Dave, and how did you get on with old Mr.Customs in the end?

[c0sie]

Who's dumbledore?

Bav, are you going to be bringing your B44.1502 to Caldi tonight?

[Belsten]

will post some piccies later
Got stung for £24 from customs so not too bad

Not going to caldi tonight Chris, wrenching instead :thumbsup:

[muratti]

Looking forward to seing pics of your 502, Belsten. Do you found it right shimming the diffs according to the manual, i think it was 3 and 2? I made it like this, time will see if it was right.
I remember when building my B44 the gears felt much tighter although the Tamiya gears had no plkay at all when shimming like in the manual but far away from the B44.

[DaveG28]

Looking forward to seing pics of your 502, Belsten. Do you found it right shimming the diffs according to the manual, i think it was 3 and 2? I made it like this, time will see if it was right.
I remember when building my B44 the gears felt much tighter although the Tamiya gears had no plkay at all when shimming like in the manual but far away from the B44.

I've played safe, 2 spare gear sets coming with mine! Is the spur common with the 201?

Got mine from Stella, I always get my kits there, so we'll see how Mr Customs treats me, so your getting a "few" Jamie?? Spares or to sell on???

[Jamie.T]

I ordered a "few" to put into stock as well as loads of spares for the 502/511 and 201.

Come the new year my new website will be ready, primarily specialising in TRF kits and parts in the UK.

[GRIFF55]

Do you have any yet Jamie?

[Jamie.T]

Not yet, should have the first lot soon tho. Are you itching for one Andy?

[GRIFF55]

sorry, just saw your post that you only ordered this morning. Nope, just curious;)
Dumbledore is a chap on here who dc has had stuff off, just quoted me a VERY good price shipped:thumbsup:

[Jamie.T]

Was it £320 shipped? If so, that's a good price as it will more than likely pass customs without charges because its not from a company.

[trf14]

Just good mine (Sint Nicolas brought them), took 10 days, no taxes ( in Belgium) order @ speedtech 380Euro all in.. now the fun of building can start.... ( also got some hop-ups)

TRf14

[qatmix]

GaHH!! I am so tempted to get one (and the new 417) I keep thinking I should wait until someone has actually raced on to see if its better than the 501...

[djmcnz]

Oops, wrong thread... :eh?:

[GRIFF55]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tyEC2-1tzc
here's the first I have seen of a 502 running, and have to say that it looks bloody impressive. Ok, v good driver on the wheel but car looks superb!!!
(black car in pole position)

[mikeyscott]

Lee Martin at the wheel? So looks like my 511 should be a 502!

Who was at the wheel?

[Smartalec]

Yep, it was Lee.
Mikey, try running the 511 before you abandon it, you might be surprised at how well it handles, I won't be getting a 502 because personally, I don't like the idea of the shaft drive. If Lee was driving his 511 i'm sure he would have still lapped me in the final as he did with the 502 yesterday. Mine was the yellow 511 that finished in second yesterday, it certainly wasn't slow round the track so I wouldn't give up on it before you've had a go, it's probably worth waiting a while to find out how "normal" humans get on with the 502 :)

[RobW]

Lee Martin at the wheel? So looks like my 511 should be a 502!


Well it is about time you changed your 4WD car, Mike. It's been at least 2 weeks since your last changed it:p

[David Church]

Lee Martin at the wheel? So looks like my 511 should be a 502!

Who was at the wheel?

Yes Mikey, drive it first before you decide you don't like it haha
It's a great car!!!

[David Church]

I just watched the video,Lee was up on 2 wheels twice and overjumped a jump once, the 502 must be crap!!!!

[mikeyscott]

Yes Mikey, drive it first before you decide you don't like it haha
It's a great car!!!

Don't worry I'll be trying my 511... :)

[David Church]

Don't worry I'll be trying my 511... :)

Good job Mikey:D
I wasn't worried though about you trying the car, I was worried about you and the Mrs if she finds out you bought another car:woot::p:D

[DaveG28]

So for those who've built it, are you running same shimming as suggested in the manual for the gearboxes?

[muratti]

Yes for now i built as per manual and it worked. Have you already built yours, Dave? Would you suggest other shimming than in the manual? Maybe Lee has answer to that question.:woot:
I alway shad the problem with the soft B44 Gearcases that i never knew how hard to screw the halves together to not have any influence on the play. Also the Tamiya Gearboxes are MUCH harder than the B44 ones and also the Tamiya Bearings seem to be made of better quality than the B44 ones.

[kentech]

TRF502X manual is online:

http://www.tamiya.com/japan/download/rcmanual/42183trf502x.pdf

[Lee Martin]

i am currently running shimming as per manual...until that fails.....

[DaveG28]

i am currently running shimming as per manual...until that fails.....

That's my plan too, ideally I'd probably add one more shim to tighten the rear, front felt ideal for a pre-run in state!

[DaveG28]

Well, gave mine it's first run in the final at West Bridgford today, was very impressed, silky smooth and familiar whilst feeling a little better in some area's, steering felt quite different too.

Ran lovely, from what I could see after the race I got the fastest race lap, not bad considering it was literally the first run, hadn't had a shake down at home or anything and had ran the 511 up to that point!

Need to sort some stuff on the 511 before a direct comparison becomes valid, but worst case it's a very very good car!!

[kentech]

For anyone who's not yet seen enough of the TRF502X, you can check out a build review @ http://kentech.blogs.se/

First part posted. More will be added whenever I have time. Should have it all up during the next few days though.

http://images16.fotki.com/v3/photos/5/1735405/9320278/IMG_0257s-vi.jpghttp://images57.fotki.com/v283/photos/5/1735405/9320278/IMG_0209s-vi.jpg

[Jamie.T]

Just finished building my 502. It went together very well, especially as i pre-tapped all the plastic M3 holes.

Everything fits together really well and worth every penny because of the quality.

The only area i was concerned with was the outdrive off the back of the centre slipper unit, seems like a lot of power to put through 1 little grub screw, so i may consider putting another flat spot on the opposite side and adding a 2nd grub-screw.

Also, installing your electrics is quite tight, but i do run a Kinetic which has a large footprint, may consider running a Tekin RS some time in the future.

Just a quick pic, as i physically cant type because of the blisters on my hands.lol

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x43/fgsuperstore/3681eda9.jpg

[Soo]

Any idea where I can order those gear box cases (a-parts) for 502x?

[muratti]

I have ordered 2x the parts tree with the Gearboxes at RC Champ in Japan last week. They have to be special ordered from Tamiya which could take up to 14 days they said. If you want i can sell you one parts tree on if i receive them.

[DaveG28]

I have them ordered too, but Champ said to me today that the gearbox case still isn't released, and Tamiya don't yet have a release date for them :(

Am well nervous driving the 502 in the meantime!

It's lovely to drive mind, so smooth! One thing I've noticed is there is more camber change under cornering than the 511, I assume due to camber link heights, does anyone have a camber setting that works well? mine seems good anyway but just in case I am missing a trick!

[DaveG28]

So guys, some people must be running their's by now, what are your impressions etc??

[Jamie.T]

Ive only done 1 meeting with mine and already love it. Its easy to drive straight out of the box. Im sure after a few minor tweaks it'll dominate like the 511 and 501.

Its also a very well thought out car, and build quality is THE best out there.

[mikeyscott]

Lee's looked awesome at Taplow, not sure on his black shell though!

Mind you any car he drives looks good!

[Lee Martin]

I managed to crash it pretty good aswell... Haha

Car was good again...used very badly worn tyres the whole day and the car was still good... Roll on petit!!

[trowta]

I managed to crash it pretty good aswell... Haha

Car was good again...used very badly worn tyres the whole day and the car was still good... Roll on petit!!

heya Lee are you still using the same set up?

[Holeshot]

I have them ordered too, but Champ said to me today that the gearbox case still isn't released, and Tamiya don't yet have a release date for them :(

Am well nervous driving the 502 in the meantime!

It's lovely to drive mind, so smooth! One thing I've noticed is there is more camber change under cornering than the 511, I assume due to camber link heights, does anyone have a camber setting that works well? mine seems good anyway but just in case I am missing a trick!

By the sounds of it that is the case for most parts on the 502x, maybe xmas has abit to do with it with places closing.

[qatmix]

Parts for the trf417 are also difficult to get atm..

[DaveG28]

Ran mine again at Broxtowe today, such an easy car to drive, never had my average lap times so close to my fastest lap times, really enjoying driving it.

The only thing I'd love to adjust is to get more lock on the outside front wheel when turning, it's something I noticed when I first built it, and it was affecting my speed round one or two corners today, how do I do that, I am already running on the inner (so less) Ackerman link holes?

Is there something I can do spacer wise on the inner steering links or any other ideas??

[sime46]

Wont you get more lock in the outer hole mate?

[sime46]

In the outer holes wont you get less lock on the inside wheel and more on the outside(loaded) wheel? Less initial turn in but more mid corner and exit? Thinking outloud here. Could easily be wrong. :thumbsup:

[DaveG28]

Hmm, I've assumed the opposite because back in my karting days, we used to put an Ackerman Link in if we wanted to put more lock on the inside wheel relative to the outside, so I've assumed the same here!?

I think the problem might be (I too am thinking out loud and may be wrong mate) that the steering links are too straight when dead ahead, so as you put lock in the outer wheel lock is counteracted by the steering link moving backwards and further away from the spindle and therefore decreasing the lock if that makes sense?? So a spacer to put the centre ballstud in front of the spindle end when dead ahead would mean the change in link position as you put lock on would increase the relative lock per degree on the servo (on the outside wheel, opposite effect on the inside). Does that make any sense???

Does anyone know what the other effects of using spacers on those ballstuds would be?

[sime46]

Re the ackerman pos I think your right. Ballstud inside hole gives more lock on the inside wheel relative to the outer. Inside wheel gets you into the corner but once the weight transfers to the outside wheel, it then takes over the steering duties. So if your struggling mid corner you want the ballstuds in the outer hole and if struggling getting into the corner then the balls go on the inside. Spacers behind the ballstuds makes sense although I'm not yet familiar with 502 geometry. I think we're barking up the same tree. We cant both be wrong. (lol, maybe we can?):thumbsup:

[Soo]

Have anyone tested gear diffs in 502?

Here is one example:
http://www.teamtrf.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=145

[quarter throttle]

just finished building mine with dad :) near enough anyway just gotta build the shock ... wasn't too difficult to be honest took a few hours and made a couple of mistakes lol

Cant wait to give it a try!! :woot:

[JC.]

Hello everybody.
I bought an 502x and I would like to know what is the advantage to use the damper HL cylinders ( items 42132 and 42133) instead of the standard shock bodies?
Thank you for your help.
CJ.

[Jamie.T]

They gold shock bodies provide less friction on the pistons, resulting in a smoother action.

[MHeadling]

Out of interest where have you been buying the 502 at the moment?

RCtech, Mushroom??

[msxmre]

Mark I got mine from Rc Market, £277 before postage and no customs charge. Must say car went together superbly.
Scotty....

[Jamie.T]

No customs charges? you were very lucky indeed. It seems nothing much gets past those guys at HMRC these days. lol

Lets see some more pics on this thread of your 502's.

[MHeadling]

msxmreMark I got mine from Rc Market, £277 before postage and no customs charge. Must say car went together superbly.
Scotty....


Cheers for that! :thumbsup:

[msxmre]

Yeah Jamie I was lucky because I thought I'd get hit with charges as I did when I ordered my Trf201. I never got charges on my sons Trf201 at Xmas either so overall I've Been quite lucky. I'll put pics up when my shells finished, collecting it on Sunday.
Scotty....

[GRIFF55]

i got mine off dumbledore on here, very good service and price and i also didnt get clobbered on any charges:thumbsup:
I have heard that pbm has some in stock at a very good price, so might be worth giving them a bell first!!
Gold bodies = less friction and more BLING!!!!:thumbsup:

[JC.]

Thank you for your help.:thumbsup:

[Holeshot]

Does the buggy come with body and wing? The Tamiya USA site says it does but the Tamiya English says not included.

[muratti]

I got all my TRF502X from Singapore and they all arrived with body and wing. I don´t know about the UK kits though.

[Speedtech RC]

Does the buggy come with body and wing? The Tamiya USA site says it does but the Tamiya English says not included.

The TRF502X version sold in the USA does indeed include the body/wing (http://www.speedtechrc.com/store/ebproductdetail.asp?catmainid=52&id=10253). It's the same as the 511 body, in case you have one lying around. :)

[sime46]

Mine was from PBM Racing in near Nottingham (uk) and it did come with body and wing. All territories have them included.

[fastinfastout]

I believe ALL 502 kits include wing and body.

[GRIFF55]

Mine came with a shell and 201 wings in the kit also.
At the weekend, the car was superb, it just got faster and faster each run until the one that counted and then the driver choked!! lol
liking the 502:D

[msxmre]

I'm liking the fact that there's a lot of encouraging reports on here about the 502. I'm running mine for the first time on Sunday.
Here's a couple of pics of my 2wd and 4wd. All painting done by www.mgpaint.co.uk (http://www.mgpaint.co.uk)
Scotty....

[msxmre]

This may be a silly question to many but I've not saw many shops stocking spares for the TRF502X and was wondering due to the fact that it shares a lot of parts with 501 and 511, are the shock towers all the same on these cars?
Thank you in advance
Scotty....

[sime46]

Towers are different mate. Suspension parts are same tho.

[msxmre]

Thanx for that buddy.
Scotty....

[DaveG28]

Well, finally played around with the steering on mine today, searching for more steering lock (was running at Broxtowe, lots of tight corners!!). I moved my ball studs to the outer Ackerman link, switched to 5x8 instead of kit 5x5 ball studs (remember to use grub screws to strengthen unused holes!), and spaced the ball stuff forward with 3mm of spacers! Definitely helped get more lock, before I next run it will try and get it sorted even better though, wasn't quite getting same lock left to right, think due to servo horn position at neutral!

Next 2 things I want to look at, first is camber change when loaded up, have noticed myself and had a few other people mention now, there's a hell of a lot of camber change when loadedup in corners, what can I do to reduce this? I currently run inner ballstuds as low as possible and 3.5mm outside front and rear!? What should I change to reduce camber change??

Finally, hate the steering slop from the bearings being loose inside the steering bridge, have I heard before you can get tape or something to put around the bearings to make it more snug in these situations? How would I do that??

Oooh, one more, anyone think the new grey ballcups have more play in them than the old black ones??

[MRD]

I use Tamiya blue threadlock on the outside/inside of bearings to take up the slop. I put a thin film on and let it go off, then it should be a nice fit when it goes in but will still let the bearing come out when needed :)

[fastinfastout]

plumbing tape !

[nobby]

i think it's called PTFE tape.
so can get it from any plumbers or diy center.

[fastinfastout]

yep teflon tape, can get it at any hardware store.

[DaveG28]

Cheers guys, will try it!

Can anyone help with how you decrease camber change under cornering!?

[Gaz_Stanton]

Can anyone help with how you decrease camber change under cornering!?

Yep. :p

[matdodd]

Your so helpfull Gaz!

[MRD]

If you mean what I think you mean then make the inner studs the same height as the ones in the hubs and make the top link as long as possible. That should give the least amount of camber change :).

[Gaz_Stanton]

I currently run inner ballstuds as low as possible and 3.5mm outside front and rear!?

Clue in your original post Amish. Get that camber link closer to parallel to the wishbone.

[DaveG28]

Clue in your original post Amish. Get that camber link closer to parallel to the wishbone.

Ahhh I knew you'd come good with advice Gaz! So I think the reason for that much spacing on the outer was to increase sidebite, presumably levelling it up will decrease that again?

[kentech]

To be announced at Shizuoka:

Buggy HL Aeration Oil Filled Damper Set
3/32 inch Ceramic Diff Ball Set (12 pcs)
Tungsten Balls for Thrust Bearing (8 pcs)

[DaveG28]

To be announced at Shizuoka:

Buggy HL Aeration Oil Filled Damper Set
3/32 inch Ceramic Diff Ball Set (12 pcs)
Tungsten Balls for Thrust Bearing (8 pcs)

Just spotted that, there are already hl buggy dampers so are these big bores? Or some other change?

So, who ran the 502 at Stotfold and how did you find it??

[Fredrik Emilsson]

No big bores, you get HL dampers cylinders instead of "standard" ones.

[nobby]

Just spotted that, there are already hl buggy dampers so are these big bores? Or some other change?

So, who ran the 502 at Stotfold and how did you find it??
i ran mine at stotfold.
i'v posted my setup on here.
let me know how your setups differ.

[JC.]

Hello everybody.
Does-anyone know which chassis (502X or 511) Lee Martin and his team-mates used at the warm-up in Finland?
Thank you for your help. :)

[Jamie.T]

Id put money on it being the 511, but dont think that de-values the 502 in any way as its still a very capable car.

[mof]

Hello everybody.
Does-anyone know which chassis (502X or 511) Lee Martin and his team-mates used at the warm-up in Finland?
Thank you for your help. :)

Martin was running a 511.

I think I saw Rheinard run 502 a couple of days before the event, but not sure what he used on race day. I would guess 511, though.

[Fredrik Emilsson]

Pic of Lee´s car:
http://www.tamiya.com/trf/images/trf2011/race/p1000674-tr.jpg

[Fredrik Emilsson]

In case someone did´nt know...

New 502X option parts.
Blue alu steering bridge (#84230)
Blue alu propeller shafts with Tamiya logos (#84231)
Spur gear plates and slipper shaft cup (gold anodized) (#84232)

You have probably seen some of the parts on Lees and Marcs cars here on Oople...

Here´s one pic:
http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee338/fsmt4wd/AI8R23181.jpg

Late august release.

[DavidAMS]

:thumbsup:
I am loving it!!

[dobber]

Saving my pennies for these now :-)

[kidcongo]

Who's car is that?

Note the brass block between the batteries.......another "weighted" TRF502X

[DavidAMS]

i think its LM's car. :drool:

[chris68nufc]

The front shocks seem fairly level however the rears look like they would bind under compression, I'm sure I read something from Lee that you had to use spacers to bring the shocks forward a bit, that car looks standard!

[Fredrik Emilsson]

He has a shock tower spacer at the front. Shock tower spacer is 2mm thick.

Not only that, he also has some nice battery straps...;)

[DavidAMS]

yup very nice battery straps for sure! good work Fredrick

[Chris]

In case someone did´nt know...

New 502X option parts.
Blue alu steering bridge (#84230)
Blue alu propeller shafts with Tamiya logos (#84231)
Spur gear plates and slipper shaft cup (gold anodized) (#84232)

You have probably seen some of the parts on Lees and Marcs cars here on Oople...

Here´s one pic:
http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee338/fsmt4wd/AI8R23181.jpg

Late august release.

The parts are available, now waiting for gear diffs and lowered camber link mountings....

Something like this but in blue ;) http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/worlds2011/day5/yoke/OOP_3691.jpg