mk racing indoor gp 16th dec

[ginger fixit]

hi guys

new to oople but not rc

i run newbury rc club on a friday night but we have decided to have a gp meeting on the 16th dec details are below


sunday 16th dec
prizes mk racing

10th 2wd and 4wd

micro prostock and modified no additive (brca rules ish )

trophies 1/2/3 in each final

entires in advance on newbury rc web site (dont know if im aloud to post a link) 10 pounds pay on day

address is

clere school
burghclere newbury berks
rg20 9hp
doors open at 8 racing by 10 booking in 830 /930

any question please post or pm me thanks Andy Bell

[Nick Goodall]

This is a huuuuge indoor venue people and so close to Christmas it's bound to be horrible and cold outside so get booking in :)

The Track is going to be designed by the one and only Lee "Pidge" Martin so you can expect good things for this one :cool: (no pressure Lee)

Andy, posting a link is fine mate - http://www.newburyrcclub.co.uk/mkgp.htm

Hope to see a few there - we don't get many proper Off Road indoor races so this should be good!

[JCJC]

Link: http://www.newburyrcclub.co.uk/

(tooooooo fast that Goodall guy!)

[Lee Martin]

early track designs are going well.......................

this could be one of the best indoor venues seen for a long time!!!

combo of slippy floor and carpet with hand made wooden kickers...table tops. doubles and even a cross over!!!!!

muahahah

[c0sie]

From a micro racing point of view..that track sounds ace!!!

Lee, just a quickie, are you gonna be running a shortened straight for us wee micro racers?

If you are bored on Sunday you could always pop along to Hereford and watch Craig, Keith, Jimmy and John racing their small cars with the big boys :)

[GRIFF55]

Is there going to be a control tyre for the offroad class? On the site it says 3 min in each class, is this possible??
Cheers

[Lee Martin]

hmmm the micros...had not thought of that.............

ill look into it lol

[c0sie]

Cheers Lee :)

You never know..you may even be tempted to join us at some stage ;)

[Lee Martin]

ha............i have a 18t......

maybe ill have a play with someones with a steer wheel on the day

[Nick Goodall]

Is there going to be a control tyre for the offroad class? On the site it says 3 min in each class, is this possible??
Cheers

Hi Andy

He means as in 3 Entries minimum to run each class so if they only get 2 micro stock it won't run for instance :-)

It will be normal 5 Minute runs with qualifying and finals.

I believe Yellow Minipins will be the tyre but Andy Bell (Ginger Fixit) will confirm shortly.

[GRIFF55]

Cheers Nick, i'll try and make it

[c0sie]

Lee,

Gimme a shout on the day..if you race steer wheel you can lay the smack down with my Blaze if you like fella :)

[ginger fixit]

hi guys


at this stage i plan to run 3 rounds qualy round by round best 2 and 3finals should help to build a bit of tention (all depends on entry numbers and time )

you will gain points for tq and qualy position and from each final should make it an excelent meeting


tyres thats up to you i think being indoors tyres is going to be the one thing you can change to make a huge difference

we have a shop on site so tyre will be avalible all day

thanks any qs just ask thanks

p.s entires will be published on newbury club forum there will be a link from the info page For the gp

[dan_kitty]

will try and do this meeting just need to check dates.

so on the entry form where you mark ability, is 1 best, or 10 best?

I assume you cant run 2 classes on the same day?

ta
dan

[ginger fixit]

hi dan

10 is best 1 is pull start class if you get my meaning


and you can book in for 2 classes if you like you may have to get your marshalling covered but thats up to you

thanks hope that helps Andy bell

[Lee Martin]

run both classes if u want.....#

be 2 entry fees though.....im guessin

[ginger fixit]

pics from the hall



http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f275/gingerfixit/Picture015.jpg


http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f275/gingerfixit/Picture016.jpg

[GRIFF55]

Gooo Onn, you know you want to:D. Plenty of room for those track ideas in that hall Lee!!

[dan_kitty]

ace, good bit of space there, just hope im allowed to come now!

[Nick Goodall]

Guys it's going to be awesome - Lee and I will be drawing up the track this week on the PC so will upload to get you all interested.

There's plenty of time left but the sooner you book in the better!

The Viewing gallery makes a perfect height rostrum with LOADS of room for practising (Room for at least 20 people practising) imagine the carnage ;-) Depends if it's practise in heat order or just free practise but either way it will work great as a rostrum.

Looking forward to it!

[Chris Green]

What tyres should I be looking to buy for this? for a B4? schumacher mini pins - yellow?

[ginger fixit]

guys


lee martin , tony truman, nick goodall all confirmed come on guys lets start booking in



its gona be awsome Andy

[Nick Goodall]

What tyres should I be looking to buy for this? for a B4? schumacher mini pins - yellow?

That will no doubt be the tyre of choice - I would imagine one set should last all day too - they tend to still work as they wear.

Spikes are good on carpet but don't last long!

[ginger fixit]

entry list now live

www.newburyrcclub.co.uk (http://www.newburyrcclub.co.uk)

http://www.gingerfixit.proboards84.com/index.cgi?board=jumptastic&action=display&thread=1193748052

[Lee Martin]

will also be alot of slippy flooring!

pins work well and get better with wear! 1 set all day!

[c0sie]

Slippy floor is great :)

Will it be like the indoor 1/10th pics from the oOple Gallery?

[ginger fixit]

mk update

pts can be used pm me if u want yours added

it will be added to the entry form asap

thanks Andy

[JCJC]

Pics from the hall remind me of the Parmiters School "shootouts" Daren Boyle used to run in Watford, 2 days, mix of buggys & tourers, same sort of viewing area used as the rostrum. It was always mini pins on the carpet & areas of polished floor, Jordan will be there with the ZX5 if we can fit the dates in. Should be great. Well done lads, good idea. Mick

[c0sie]

Andy,

Is there a motor limit for 1/10th 4WD?
Im hopefully going to enter with a borrowed BX. Itll be my first ever use of a 1/10th offroader so treat me gentle ;)

[Mash Potato]

Looking on here http://www.newburyrcclub.co.uk/mkgp.htm there's the below table, so looks like any motor can be used for both 2wd and 4wd 1/10th.



Classes
1/10th
2WD
Any electric motor
1/10th
4WD
Any electric motor
1/18th
4WD
Prostock
1/18th
4WD
Modified

Classes must have a minimum of 3 entries to run

Andy,

Is there a motor limit for 1/10th 4WD?
Im hopefully going to enter with a borrowed BX. Itll be my first ever use of a 1/10th offroader so treat me gentle ;)

[mobile chicane]

I'll be there 2wd unlimited class :o

[RogerM]

I'm there, 4wd ..... looks like a good venue

[c0sie]

Roger,
Hows that EXOTEK of yours?
Gonna run it at the Newbury meet?

[GRIFF55]

just tried to enter and it says the owner of this form has exceeded his submitals for october???
HELP,i wana book in:p

[showtime]

i'll be there Andy

outsides no good for me in winter as i don't want to mess my hair up :rolleyes:


i'll forward you all my details asap :)

[budgio]

I,m looking forward to this meet too.
Also unable to book in using the form.:D

[glypo]

Wot, micro racing!!

I'll be there without a doubt, my brother will probably be too if he's not working away. Awesome! I am confused though, people have entered but it says the entry form not up until Thursday? Is there another way of entering?

Also is it alright if I cover the event on my website?
(http://www.glypo.com)

Ta.

[ginger fixit]

hi guys

sorry that the forms not working have to speak to my web master

you can pm me your details

class ability xtals transponder number if you have one

and feel free to get it on as many sites as you like


thanks guys Andy Bell

[frogger]

I'll be there for sure entering the 18scale mod class. Might even try and get some batteries to run the ZX-5 as well! :D

[glypo]

The pro-stock and modified, is this like the UKMC/UKMX where pro-stock is a any brushed motor and modified is any brushless? Sorry just thought I'd check before I enter the wrong class.

[dan_kitty]

ok, im able to come. Going for 4wd i think

i have sent pm of my details:)

Happy Days

[ginger fixit]

runing to brca motor rules so yes any brushed in prostock and any brushless in mod

thanks hope that helps

[MK Racing]

Also is it alright if I cover the event on my website?
(http://www.glypo.com)

Ta.

Jason,
Will be great to have you there!

Marc

[RogerM]

Roger,
Hows that EXOTEK of yours?
Gonna run it at the Newbury meet?


Car is fine mate, news travels fast!!! Needs a bit of tack time to hone the set-up but I like it's balance a lot!!! Going to be a regular at GERCC until it's there ... then might come and play at a national ;)

To get the track time I'm going to need to find a servo that can last more than 5 mins (literally 2 runs so far, 2 broken servo gear sets!!!). Going for a HS65MG ... see if that helps.


Car won't be at Newbury as it's too much like hard work to run two new cars at one meeting, remember it will be my first run inside with the BJ4WE and probably only my 3rd meeting overall with the car!

[frogger]

Roger - the 65MG is about the best servo for the Exotek. I have done numerous cart wheels and wall encounters and have never broken one. I've been carrying a spare around for ages but not yet needed it :D

[Southwell]

Was this hall there when the old club was running?

[Nick Goodall]

Ian, we used to have a pretty good outdoor track up at this place, but when they decided to build this hall they kindly levelled the old track to make it nice and flat with "Top soil" which was actually just full of stones so ruined the outdoor track. They wanted us to run in this hall but it was too expensive for Wednesday nights when we were only getting a few people turn up.

We did always say it would have been perfect for a Weekend race meeting though so this should be cool :cool:

[ginger fixit]

hi guys


enrtys are at twenty so doing well i think for so early on.


the form is back up and running we have put a box for pt`s now so if you have one you can use it

thanks to tony at clanfield we have the use of his loop should make the meeting much easyier for some people

thanks Andy

[c0sie]

Andy,
As I said to Wes on the 'micro' forum..ive never seen 1/10th offroad raced properly so this event is sure to effect my overdraft in someway :D

Any idea on numbers per class?

[markwilliamson2001]

I would be up for this, as I currently do not have any racing planned for December. This is the school where I first started off racing at a plucky 10 years old!!

Hopefully I will be able to run 2wd, so I will be putting my name down for this meeting straight after this post.

Kind regards
Mark Williamson

[ginger fixit]

mk gp update

entries up to 26 now guys

[mobile chicane]

wow with over a month and a half to go, this event could be realy BIG


:D

[Nick Goodall]

I would be up for this, as I currently do not have any racing planned for December. This is the school where I first started off racing at a plucky 10 years old!!

Hopefully I will be able to run 2wd, so I will be putting my name down for this meeting straight after this post.

Kind regards
Mark Williamson

I remember it well Mark - Tamiya Grasshopper wasn't it ;-) Soon followed by the Lazer ZX-R.

I used to love racing here on Wednesday's, it's also where I started in 1992 with a Tamiya MadCap - wasn't long before my Dad realised there was more to it and bought me a Kyosho Optima Mid (Custom Special) from a guy at his work :cool:

[markwilliamson2001]

Aye Nick, it was the Grasshopper, but I had an Optima Mid off Neil Gore who lived down the road from me before I got the Lazer ZX-R. That thing was a brick!! (Lazer) I think you had that last time I saw you... :p


I then got the XX which I had for about 3 years I think, before getting the predator and then a XX4. Had Keith Robertson's XXX before giving up before Uni.

Now finished and was back last year with the B4, but this year changed to XX4 (again, but different kit.)

See you lot in December!
Ta
Mark

[mobile chicane]

32 entries now :D

[ginger fixit]

entrys at 36 now guys and all classes have enough drivers to run

[c0sie]

Andy,

Keep promoting the event bro, all the micro Nats had shed loads of entries in the last week...keep up the good work champ:)

[c0sie]

Help..

How does 'Round by Round' work??????

[RogerM]

Help..

How does 'Round by Round' work??????

In each round of qualifying you get a number of points based on your finishing position (1 for 1st, 2 for 2nd etc.) ... sometimes you get an extra point for overall TQ aswell.

Then the round scores are combined (usually dropping a round or 2 .. ie. best 2 from 4 for example).

So for example if you got a 10th in round one, 7th in round two, 44th in round three and 12th in round four with best 2 of 4 to count ....... you final score would be the 10 + the 7 so 17 points.

The combined points totals are then sorted, lowest point scorer 1st in the A and so on.

It works really well to reward consistent driving but punishes you hard for a mechanical failure (as if you break in 2 of the first rounds you HAVE to get a score, any score, in the last round which normally forces you to drive at 9/10ths to be sure of crossing the line). It also means that if your going to the meeting to try different set-ups then your putting your self at risk as if something really doesn't work at all and you get a crap round score you have to be ultra conservative for hte rest of the meeting.

If your going to a track, knowing how to set the car up for that track and can drive clean for a full race you'll have a good result.

Some people prefer this way, others prefer FTD.

I personally like round by round for serious events like regional / national events as it means that the best package (car / driver / set-up) on the day gets the result and makes all the work worthwhile.
I equally don't think helps promote the "fun" side of RC at smaller / less significant events where I'd rather see FTD so as you could happily play with the set-up, for example, all day and even if nothing works you can go back to your base set-up and put a run in at the end of the day to get you into a representative final.

I have to be truthful and say that I'd run Micro at this event if it wasn't for the round-by-round qualifying in the 1/10th. This is for two reasons, firstly I have no "base set-up" for the Exotek and am changing something quite significant every run at the moment .... not a position I'd be happy to race round-by-round with. Secondly the same is likely to be true of the BJ4WE I'm running in tenth .... hasn't even had the steering trims set yet as I am still waiting for my cells to arrive ..... again not a position I'm happy to race round-by-round with but if I want to do the event I have to ..... but the added stress of the Mirco would probably push me into a bad mood all day ....so the Exotek stays at home :(

[mobile chicane]

I wonder if its worth getting the local rag down to take a few pics as this is shaping up to be a big event it could make many more aware of the local club and of the amazing cml raceway just down the road

[Nick Goodall]

Not a bad idea Giles - I spoke to Lee last week about possibly getting some coverage about his place but i guess it needs to be looked into as it's his home he won't want random strangers popping up mid-week to have a look :D

Anyway, just to let you all know we've now got all the Jumps designed for this meeting (a few Doubles, Table top and even a Cross Over if all goes to plan) so GET YOUR ENTRIES IN!!

When was the last time we had a decent off road indoor meeting south of Birmingham?

If we can get good numbers for this one i'm sure Andy will be looking at organising another one which would be spot on! :cool:

[Mash Potato]

Anyway, just to let you all know we've now got all the Jumps designed for this meeting (a few Doubles, Table top and even a Cross Over if all goes to plan) so GET YOUR ENTRIES IN!!

Sounds awesome, can't wait.

[JCJC]

When was the last time we had a decent off road indoor meeting south of Birmingham?

:cool:

Few years ago, DMS shootout's (Watford) we used to enjoy em !:):)

Who's making the jumps ?

[Elliott Hopkins]

How close to the race day can I book in? Can I book in speculatively.

I'm looking to see whether I'll be in the area for this and not moving ... :(

Elliott.

[Southwell]

Few years ago, DMS shootout's (Watford) we used to enjoy em !:):)

Who's making the jumps ?

Yeah, they were ace!

[Nick Goodall]

Few years ago, DMS shootout's (Watford) we used to enjoy em !:):)

Who's making the jumps ?

Andy's making the Jumps - he said the Timber is arriving tonight so he wanted to have plenty of time to get them built up.

Should be excellent!

Elliott - i would just book in mate, you can always cancel nearer the time if it turns out you can't make it!

[Southwell]

Im booked in! I take it 2wd is modified? :P

[Nick Goodall]

Im booked in! I take it 2wd is modified? :P

Yes indeedy :cool:

[Chris Green]

I'm booked in too. 2WD can't wait.

[renejespersen]

Uhh I would really wanna be there :D both 10th and 18th scale.. niiice.. A great chance to meet the UK top drivers in both classes :D
Lee and Tony.. you know i love you..

[mobile chicane]

Not a bad idea Giles - I spoke to Lee last week about possibly getting some coverage about his place but i guess it needs to be looked into as it's his home he won't want random strangers popping up mid-week to have a look :D

Anyway, just to let you all know we've now got all the Jumps designed for this meeting (a few Doubles, Table top and even a Cross Over if all goes to plan) so GET YOUR ENTRIES IN!!

When was the last time we had a decent off road indoor meeting south of Birmingham?

If we can get good numbers for this one i'm sure Andy will be looking at organising another one which would be spot on! :cool:



aye needs looking at carefully


do any of the uk rc racer magazines have whats on guides ?

[Lee Martin]

Rene!!!
we love you!!

[MattADH]

aye needs looking at carefully


do any of the uk rc racer magazines have whats on guides ?


What do you mean? Are you referring to a dates section? We have one on-line at Racer. There are only two on-road meetings on the 16th according to our records.

[mobile chicane]

What do you mean? Are you referring to a dates section? We have one on-line at Racer. There are only two on-road meetings on the 16th according to our records.


I didn't know that existed linky please

[mobile chicane]

racer emailed as they dont even list the thatcham club :o

[ginger fixit]

hi guys


just a quick update on the situation with the gp.

CML Distribution are confirmed as sponsers as well as mk racing so there should be loads of prizes for us to raffle off.:)

track design is looking great im told by lee and nick ive made a table top and im about half way through making the three other doubles which one will become the do or die x over.:o

timing gear is now sorted thanks to tony at clanfield :D

unfortunatly i have had to cap the drivers to 80 mainly down to pitting area we dont want to loose any track space, i think the entrys are up around 50 now guys so time to be booking in if you want to come last entrys will be taken monday 10th dec

thanks guys Andy Bell

[RogerM]

Just to confirm .... it's open tyre choice isn't it!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[ginger fixit]

hi roger

yes chap its run what you brung

thanks Andy

[glypo]

http://www.glypo.com/general/mkgp.jpg

[Teddy truman]

lee people seem to like to drop your name in at the mo dont they lol:D

[Lee Martin]

YOU KNOW THIS!!!!

MANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNNNN!

LOVE IT......LEEROY BROWN!

[woohaa19]

can any1 give a postcode or address pls thanks !!!

[Elliott Hopkins]

I have no clues about tyres for carpet. Can I get a few hints?

Are there any surefire make/tread/compounds?

Elliott.

[jim76]

can any1 give a postcode or address pls thanks !!!


read the first post!!

[woohaa19]

can i say red bakwards lol

[Nick Goodall]

I have no clues about tyres for carpet. Can I get a few hints?

Are there any surefire make/tread/compounds?

Elliott.

Hi Elliott

Schumacher Yellow Minipins will be the choice, but Yellow Minispikes also work well and are a lot less aggressive....

To be honest i don't think there will be anything else that gets close to either of these.

[ginger fixit]

guys

mk racing will be on site with loads of tyres and wish bones for giles and trish LOL

cheers guys Andy Bell (get them entrys in not long now )

[Elliott Hopkins]

*salutes Nick*

Ta mate.

I have some knacked Yellow Spikes on the car now.

[ginger fixit]

gp update

hi guys right ive ordered the trophies today (my god they are expensive) thats enough for top three in each final

entrys are up around the 60 mark now(capped at 80)

the time table below is provisional at the mo


doors open 830 (bring your own pit table/chairs)

open practice 830 till 930:wtf:

drivers brief 945

racing by 10am

3 round qualifying best ftd

followed by the raffle for the prizes :)

3 finals for all points per round

last by no means least presentation:o

[Body Paint]

3 round qualifying best 2 rounds
last by no means least presentation:o

Why not FTD? Surely the track conditions aren't going to changeas the day goes on, are they?

[Lee Martin]

could blue groove!!!!!!!

hahaha

but could be FTD.

[Southwell]

FTD has my vote, 2 out of 3 rounds doesn't leave any room for a breakage/bad run.

[RogerM]

Another vote for FTD but I don't think it was a vote ... was it?????

[ginger fixit]

guys

if i had said ftd x would have said round by round i cant win i take your point i will change it to ftd but i dont agree i prefer round by round by hey

thanks cool Andy

[markwilliamson2001]

Leave it as it was I say..

I prefer round by round as well.

M.

[Southwell]

Vote on the day?

[markwilliamson2001]

Yeah okay then, whats the decision behind 3 finals for all (as I read it) or was it just a finals only have 3 legs?

I would have thought it would be better to have 3 rounds of qually and 2 finals for all, since then time does not become a problem.

Mark

[Southwell]

Well theres only 80 competitors, considering nats have 120+ and finish at a decent time i don't think it will be much of a problem.

[Nick Goodall]

I think Andy wanted to give everyone 3 Leg finals to increase the amount of "racing" for everyone rather then just qualifying all day to have one final.

I'm sure it'll be fine on the day, it's just a bit different!

Up to Andy but i guess a vote for FTD or Rd x Rd would be an idea for the morning? Depends how hard it is to set-up on the computer as i have no idea!

Should be a good day either way though :cool:

[RogerM]

The problem with round by round on 3 rounds only is that if you have a problem in one round your day is effectively over as you'll have to drive conservatively to make sure you have 2 scores on the board to get any final at all....

Just another thought, 3 finals will be a bit of a problem for some people to charge ...... charging at 1C (I normally charge less than this) means your looking at about an hour to charge a pack of cells. When you consider that you need to let them cool between running and charging and most people will already be using at least one of their 3 packs (this seems a standard number) twice durring a normal day it is going to become an issue ...... just a thought.

I'll have to work out if I can still attend (from a charging point of view), which will be a shame as I was looking forward to it. :(

[Southwell]

If you want a pack or so of cells come see me, i have 9 packs of 4200's ;)

[showtime]

surprised nobody's said to just nuke em on a fast charge LOL :D

[RogerM]

If you want a pack or so of cells come see me, i have 9 packs of 4200's ;)


top man!!!!! Thanks for the offer ..... but will they fit that is the question???

In my BJ4 I run Corrally tubes on top of L bars on the cells (neg on motor side facing forwards) and 140mm link wire running on top of L bars.

If they would fit then brilliant!!!!

[glypo]

surprised nobody's said to just nuke em on a fast charge LOL :D

Looks like we'll be standing back from your table mate, I can see the exploding cells already. :rolleyes:

Are you not giving the new pred a go in 4wd mate? Looks like I've got hold of a nice s/h Lazer so hopefully I can enter the 4wd.... haven't touched tenth off-road in ages :)

[Southwell]

top man!!!!! Thanks for the offer ..... but will they fit that is the question???

In my BJ4 I run Corrally tubes on top of L bars on the cells (neg on motor side facing forwards) and 140mm link wire running on top of L bars.

If they would fit then brilliant!!!!
If that was in a B4 would the positive be at the back towards the speedo?

[showtime]

Looks like we'll be standing back from your table mate, I can see the exploding cells already. :rolleyes:

Are you not giving the new pred a go in 4wd mate? Looks like I've got hold of a nice s/h Lazer so hopefully I can enter the 4wd.... haven't touched tenth off-road in ages :)


obviously i was joking about nuking the cells Jay :p

as for 4wd i think i'll just stick to 2wd for this one and break the pred out for next year :D

[RogerM]

If that was in a B4 would the positive be at the back towards the speedo?

Nope the opposite but if the rest is ok then the wires are long enough to swap ... just need to remove the cable ties and check twice before plugging them in!!!

[ginger fixit]

roger from my point of view i was trying to give you guys value for money you are the only person who has brought this up so i will be interested to see how others feel but thanks for your comments

regards Andy Bell

[Nick Goodall]

Nope the opposite but if the rest is ok then the wires are long enough to swap ... just need to remove the cable ties and check twice before plugging them in!!!

Hi Roger,

To be honest you should have enough time between runs to get cells charged, even including allowing them to cool down.

I tend to charge them all the night before, then just re-peak in the morning for practise.

Say you use at most 2 sets for Practise, you'll still have the one set left to peak before round 1, then after that has been and gone you'll have loads of time to charge up one of your practise packs again which I find only take at the very most an hour to cool down.

I don't know what everyone else does, but i rarely discharge the cells at a race meeting either - sure enough i'll discharge them properly before charging on the Saturday but on Sunday after each run i will just let the cells cool down and re-charge them later in the day when i need them again. I've been doing this for a while and not had any problems? I charge them at 4a if that makes any difference.

All i'm trying to say is i'm sure you'll be fine with 3 packs and don't believe you'll do any damage by running them more then once or even twice in a day if you leave them to cool between charging.

As they've limited racing to 80 drivers that should mean you get a good hour/1.5 hours between runs so i'm sure you'll manage on 3 packs (i certainly intend to)!

[Southwell]

I read somewhere that Dresher used 2 packs in a TC meeting, they actually run better on their third charge!
I don't intend on using more than 3 packs, thats all i ever use.

[Lee Martin]

i only seem to use 3 packs...

get better and better

[ginger fixit]

guys big news

venue has changed to a much bigger site with better facilitys please see web site for details www.newburyrcclub.co.uk (http://www.newburyrcclub.co.uk)

any problems come back to me

thanks Andy Bell

[ginger fixit]

guys thought you might like to see the table top ive just built came out quite well i think

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f275/gingerfixit/Picture093.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f275/gingerfixit/Picture095.jpg

8feet wide and 12.5 feet long not bad for a mornings work

laters dont forget to cheack out the web site venue has changed

www.newburyrcclub.co.uk (http://www.newburyrcclub.co.uk)

[AmiSMB]

Wow looks fantastic Andy well done mate. Cannot wait to get my cars on that.

[ryan]

Nice one Andy, looks really good. Cant wait:D

[RogerM]

Ok guys, I was thinking the following about cell charging. (Could just be my total fear of the IBs going pop on me making me more paranoid but ....)

80 drivers, 10 per heat = 8 heats

Each heat takes 7.5 minutes (5mins race + lap + 2mins for change over of heats) = 1 hour per round

So run a pack in round 1, cool for an hour (now round 2) then charge at 3.5A (my normal charging rate) takes 1 hour 15 minutes on average. Just enough time to be ready when you get back from marshalling round 3. Ok, in reality your only going to have to put 50% or so back in so about 40 minutes charge. That is final 1 sorted.

You now have just about enough time to get the cells from R2 charged for final 2, then just about enough again to do the R3 pack for final 3.

This is fine until you have a false peak, get out of step and fall as little as 15 minutes behind with your routine (i.e. forget to put cells on before you go out for your race and have to wait until you get back after marshalling to put them on) your sunk :(
If you get distracted by working on your car this can easily happen!!!

Just sounds REALLY stressful ...... will certainly be taking lots of Solpadine with me and make sure I have a BIG bottle of brandy waiting for me when I get home!!!!!

That jump looks awesome .... get it right and it should be a beautiful arc in the air get it wrong and you could have a broken everything ..... will take some driving and I bet the different styles people have will me mean more than one coming together during the day I am sure!!! Is great to see a proper form on a man made jump.

[RogerM]

Andy .... by the way the new weblink is not working ... keeps timing out!!!

Can you put the postcode of the new venue on thsi thread please!

[frogger]

The Liberty Ballroom
187 Main Street
New Greenham Park
Newbury
Berks
RG19 6HW

:)

[RogerM]

Cheers

[glypo]

Roger, that seems plenty of time. When I do touring cars in the summer, we have to charge our cells much quicker then that as there are less people. It's no problem.

I'm going to be charging my cells at 1C. So for the 4200mAh just charge at 4.2 ampere. They certainly can take more, I used to charge my IB's at more then that anyway. That way it's theoretical charge time (with 20% efficiency loss) of 1hr 12mins from flat, as you said you won't be running flat so you can be basically guaranteed of 100% charge for each run, no problem.

How do you cope with club racing? Surely when you race club level you have shorter then an hour between rounds? Just do whatever you do there. Really sounds like loads of time for me. I'm planning on charging my EP4200's for my 4wd and IB1400's for my micro all day using only one charger.

Andy - Looks fantastic!!

[ginger fixit]

thanks guys

roger mate you will be fine most of us dont have any trouble as glypo has said when im racing touring which ive now started doing mod the cells only have 400 mah left in them and i get them repeaked in time i do have a cooling fan to cool them but to be honest they may not be cold when i recharge but i have been running 4200 all season with no trouble at all they dont even get above 35 degrees.:yawn:

happy days if you worried i think ive got some old 2000mah nicads i used to charge straight from a twelve volt years ago you can borrows those they wont go bang LOL:D

[c0sie]

Jason, what micro you running fella?

[RogerM]

[quote=glypo;74169]
How do you cope with club racing? Surely when you race club level you have shorter then an hour between rounds? Just do whatever you do there. Really sounds like loads of time for me. I'm planning on charging my EP4200's for my 4wd and IB1400's for my micro all day using only one charger.[quote]

Club racing ........ 1/10th off-road club racing ..... sorry, I don't understand?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I vaguely remember somthing like that int he 90s .... might just have been a dream however....

1/10th off-road club racing, nope .... sorry .... does not compute!!!


At club I run micro (since Oct this year, before that it was 2002 since I last raced at a "club" meeting) and lost 2 rounds and the chance to race the final due to charging problems on Friday ..... if you don't mind I won't be trying to repeat that on the 16th!!!!

I am still 5417 scared of IBs blowing up on me ..........

Andy, bet I could last on 2000s with modern brushless systems .. ironic hey.

[glypo]

Club racing ........ 1/10th off-road club racing ..... sorry, I don't understand?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I vaguely remember somthing like that int he 90s .... might just have been a dream however....

1/10th off-road club racing, nope .... sorry .... does not compute!!!

LOL that is true I must say. Doesn't really exist around these parts, looks like it's coming back though :) I'm sure you'll be fine though.

Cris - Using a RC18T FT. Fingers crossed it will do. UKMC3 I did not like the M18T and got rid of that. I'm much happier with the RC18T, for now anyway :)

[RogerM]

Glypo ..... although I trust your judgement ..... might buy another charge just in case .. ;)

[Lee Martin]

Club racing ........ 1/10th off-road club racing ..... sorry, I don't understand?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I vaguely remember somthing like that int he 90s .... might just have been a dream however....

1/10th off-road club racing, nope .... sorry .... does not compute!!!
quote]

1/10th off road clubs?

what are you on? seriously? theres more 10th meetings than i can actually attend! its a strong part of the racing world! only really being bettered by 8th scale! which is buzzing right now!

also charging cells at 3.5amps?? why?????

anddddddddd............that jump looks ace andy! what makes RC fun is being able to express the purpose they are made for! if you dont want to jump, buy a Boring car!

wat is the appeal of tracks in the states? dirt and jumps!!!!!! 'jumpssssss'

Andy it looks cool, 1/10th off road is awesome and we know it! im a little frustrated by this thread as the MK GP is going to be tip top.

get more pics of jumps on ASAP!

Lee

[showtime]

Andy you need to put a single jump a way out fom the jump in the picture that the brave people can use as a landing ramp ;)

if you don't go at it hard enough you come up short & stub in or slow right down and take it as 2 jumps! that way if you really go for it you do them both at once! makes the jumps risk & reward!
you are rewarded with a quicker time through that section if you risk jumping it all!
thats the way to do it :D

[Chris Green]

Could anyone point me in the direction of a setup for a B4 please?

Thanks.

[RogerM]

Pidge, in answer to your statements in your response to my previous post ....

Firstly I think the jump looks cool ... did I not say that???? I meant to!!! I like jumps like that one where you can drive it and set the car down nice and controlled on a proper lander ramp .... as you say like the US tracks. This is one of the reasons I really wanted to make it to CML .. to drive the jumps. Anybody can wedge a bit of plywood at an angle but that is not a good jump ... what Andy has built looks smooth!

As for the club racing comment I've not lived with in an hours drive of a club that runs 1/10th off road cars since I moved out of the London area in 2002 (used to go to the Watford club on a thursday and in all honesty they stopped running buggy's in any number in about 2000). There are no clubs that I know of in the southern part of the west mids or northern half of the south west that run 1/10th off-road. If anybody can find me one, within an hours drive of Cheltenham (an off-road racers desert) then I will defiantely go racing there!!!!!!!!!!!!

All the clubs seem to run is boring car and, if your really lucky, micros with basic jumps. The whole reason I bought a micro was that there are no 1/10th off-road clubs around :(

Seems similar around Glypo's way by his response.

As for the 3.5A charge rate I run that as it's the lowest that I can normally get away with and I am seriously worried that a cell will let go on me and hurt somebody. Comes from being a health and safety bod I guess!!! If I could have bought any other cells than IB4200s I would have done but they simply were not available when I needed to purchase cells. That being the case I feel I have to treat them with respect and a healthy dose of concern.

I don't think anybody has said anything negative about the MK GP ..... I certainly haven't ...... just trying to clarify a few things so I understand what to expect and have a good days racing.

I for one am really looking forward to it!!!!!! I certainly didn't mean to uspest anybody.

[Chris Green]

As for the club racing comment I've not lived with in an hours drive of a club that runs 1/10th off road cars since I moved out of the London area in 2002 (used to go to the Watford club on a thursday and in all honesty they stopped running buggy's in any number in about 2000). There are no clubs that I know of in the southern part of the west mids or northern half of the south west that run 1/10th off-road. If anybody can find me one, within an hours drive of Cheltenham (an off-road racers desert) then I will defiantely go racing there!!!!!!!!!!!!

All the clubs seem to run is boring car and, if your really lucky, micros with basic jumps. The whole reason I bought a micro was that there are no 1/10th off-road clubs around :(



Hi Roger,

Both the Hereford club, and the Caldicot (Newport) clubs are an hour away from Cheltenham?

Both of which run off-road style tracks (Caldicot only race off-road), with loads of jumps and features.

At Hereford at the moment, the track caters for on road too, so the track can be a bit tamer, but in the near future we are looking to run off-road only nights, every other week.

Cheers,

Chris.

[RogerM]

Chris ..... you have just made my day!!!!!!! I didn't know Hereford did 1/10th ... been told it was a Micro club....

I was always up at Ledbury putting in stick time for RallyX so if there is a 1/10th off-road club just a little further than that I'd be well up for that!!!!!!!

Just rechecked the 1st-hrcc site and found it's just a bit over an hour (TomTom says 1hr10 and 57.5 miles quickest, 1hr20 44 miles shortest using the info from the website .... no mention of 1/10th offroad though :( If it's a 6:15 start there is no hope ... I struggle to make it to Gloucester by 8pm most times)

Anyway please PM me the up to date details or start an new thread please....

Caldicot is a bit more than an hour from me due to the flow (or lack of it) of evening traffic (assuming they run on a week night).


Can we go back on topic for the MK GP again please before you get me hund, drawn and quartered by Mr Martin .....

[ginger fixit]

guys i can promise you the mk gp will be the best indoor meet you have all been to in some time now we have lost tiverton we need to replace it this i recon is the best we can come up with with out dirt.

i will have some more pics up on saturday we have a clubby this friday and im endevouring to get the table top and the rest of the jumps to the hall this week.

thanks guys and remember lee is designing the track it will be the nutts


laters Andy Bell

[ginger fixit]

hi guys

quick up date for you 62 entries in total 13 days to go


27 entrys in 2wd

20 entrys in 4wd

7 entrys prostock micro

8 entrys modified micro

still got a few days to go entries will close on the 10th of december so if you want to come best be getting on with it.

newbury rc will be running this friday night if you want to come over and have a go at the surface and the jumps pm me if you do so we can sort out numbers.

thanks guys Andy Bell

[mobile chicane]

I am the old carpet wrangler :D


we now have some propper off road carpet ( hoho ) as well


all to go into the mix:D

[ginger fixit]

just been and ordered the silverware for the gp they look ace should all look very nice in my trophie cabnet LOL


just to let you know we will have driver net live at this meeting all info will be availble on the day.


thanks guys 65 entrys now Andy Bell

[Nick Goodall]

just been and ordered the silverware for the gp they look ace should all look very nice in my trophie cabnet LOL


just to let you know we will have driver net live at this meeting all info will be availble on the day.


thanks guys 65 entrys now Andy Bell

Awesome Andy, i've got loads of Track designs for you to look at too - should be a good one in there somewhere!

[c0sie]

anddddddddd............that jump looks ace andy! what makes RC fun is being able to express the purpose they are made for! if you dont want to jump, buy a Boring car!

wat is the appeal of tracks in the states? dirt and jumps!!!!!! 'jumpssssss'

Andy it looks cool, 1/10th off road is awesome and we know it! im a little frustrated by this thread as the MK GP is going to be tip top.

get more pics of jumps on ASAP!

Lee

Lee,

Hell yeah! Jumps are where its at man..we need mooooore..lots more...everywhere.
Every club needs jumps..its like a drug..that isnt bad for you :D

[rich_cree]

I want to do this race with my B44, I asked Lee to enter me but no idea if he has or not. Can someone check if I'm in or not????

Cheers

[Southwell]

I want to do this race with my B44, I asked Lee to enter me but no idea if he has or not. Can someone check if I'm in or not????

Cheers

Your in, check here: http://www.gingerfixit.proboards84.com/index.cgi?board=jumptastic&action=display&thread=1193748052

[ginger fixit]

thanks ian saves me a job

[showtime]

you need to edit a few more nicknames into that list Andy ;)

like Rob "Knobrash" Rasey for example :D

[mw02veg]

im sure ive already posted this but dont seem to be there just a few questions. wots the situation with tables and chairs bring ur own? and power will mains be avaialble on the day its just i dont have a 12v no
more:yawn:. oh and how many spaves in 2wd left?
cheers grant williams

[rob8246]

im sure ive already posted this but dont seem to be there just a few questions. wots the situation with tables and chairs bring ur own? and power will mains be avaialble on the day its just i dont have a 12v no
more:yawn:. oh and how many spaves in 2wd left?
cheers grant williams

Grant,

There will be 240volts available for charging, soldering etc....
Best to bring an extension lead though. ;)

[c0sie]

And a small table :)

[mw02veg]

thats wot i like to hear thanx alot for ur help just gotta book in now:D

[mw02veg]

just sent my entry just hope ive got in! anyone that can confirm im in would be great:D
thanx
grant williams

[AmiSMB]

Will be great to be racing another Grant.

Cheers

Grant Fribbens

[ginger fixit]

hi guys driver list has just been updated if you want to check your there thanks guys

http://www.gingerfixit.proboards84.com/index.cgi?board=jumptastic&action=display&thread=1193748052

not long now Andy :)

[Zipper]

hi guys driver list has just been updated if you want to check your there thanks guys

http://www.gingerfixit.proboards84.com/index.cgi?board=jumptastic&action=display&thread=1193748052

not long now Andy :)

I'm still not on the list and is says: « Last Edit: Dec 3, 2007, 11:19am by Andy Bell (http://www.gingerfixit.proboards84.com/index.cgi?action=viewprofile&user=admin) »

:confused:

[frogger]

Colin Dean's name also missing from 1/18 Mod :confused:

[mw02veg]

im not in either i hve i have sent in my online entry form. a reply would be great
cheers grant williams

[ginger fixit]

hi guys

it can take a day or so for the entrys to hit my e-mail so dont worry here is the latest list

2wd

neil cragg
nick goodall
lee (pidge) martin
tony truman
grant williams
Elliott Boots
rob (redhot) rasey
alan saunders
richard saunders
tristram neal
ryan lees
simon freeman
wes (sideshow) myles
ian hanc*ck
damien tutton
nick wilson
adam (showtime) lewis
tony scott
chris green
trevor follington
ian southwell
mark byrne
elliott hopkins
rob rance
james evans
brian preddy
Duncan Brass
kevin tombeur
grant fribbens

4wd

nathan ralls
Elliott Boots
Andy griffiths
mark (MK Racing) Knight
rob rasey
roger mills
marc nascimento
cris oxley
steve thurlbourne
grant fribbens
Daniel Hardstaff
mark williamson
brett hope
gary spice
simon chambers
scott follington
David Mudford
pete attrell
rich cree
giles bishop
jason moller
ee flynn
steven pierce
richard coats
ben hubbard
stuart band


micro prostock

craig harris
rob hillmon
stephen davies
rob chalmers
Dave Middleton
james d icks
mark d icks
chris bottle



micro modified

cris oxley
carl venter
grant fribbens
jason moller
edward moller
duncan greer
jonathan clark
Darryl Osborne
colin dean

with top drivers like neil cragg / pidge /tony truman/ nick goodall in 2wd to name but a few this will be awsome i just hope i keep it all together and running smooth should be a great day

cheers Andy Bell

[c0sie]

Wow! You got some shit hot names on that list there Andy!

[ginger fixit]

should be awsome :o

[strobe]

How many places are left for 4wd.

[showtime]

Wow, Grant (comedy barnett) Fribbens is doing 3 classes!

he'll be busy :o

[rob8246]

Driver list is looking good and following the meeting Friday night the track & jumps will be awesome!
Just a reminder that drivers will need to bring either a leisure battery in a plastic container or a mains extension lead as we do have 240v available but sockets may become limited. (i will try to make enough for everyone)
With a bit of luck driver net will also be available on the day so PDA's and WiFi laptops maybe usefull. I hope to have at least 1 remote monitor in the pits maybe 2.
More updates during the week.

Rob.

[ginger fixit]

hi guys

entrys for all classes are still open dont think i need to close them till late next week could easy get 100 drivers in this venue


i take it every body is aware we have moved sites


The Liberty Ballroom
187 Main Street
New Greenham Park
Newbury
Berks
RG19 6HW


doors open at 730 full format will be posted later this week

[c0sie]

Any one using Ballistic Buggy tyres in 4WD? If so, what do you guys think would be the best Ballistic Buggy tyres to use on the day?

[markwilliamson2001]

Use Schumey Yellow Minipins!!

M

http://www.markwilliamson.info/steve/schumpin.jpg

[c0sie]

Im working on a budget lol

[frogger]

Cris, you won't go far wrong with the kit tyres :) They will however grip a little too much to start with so maybe run them on concrete first to take the edge off ;)

Also, if you buy new rims, make sure you drill a little hole in them before glueing the new tyres on so you don't bounce all over the place from trapped air :)

[Elliott Hopkins]

For the 2wd fronts. Do racers use skinny pins or the fatter 4wd pins?

Elliott.

[markwilliamson2001]

I always used 2wd skinny fronts, they gave more than enough steering.

M.

[Nick Goodall]

Any one using Ballistic Buggy tyres in 4WD? If so, what do you guys think would be the best Ballistic Buggy tyres to use on the day?

Hi mate,

If you haven't got any Schumachers, you may get away with Green or Blue BB Minipins which will probably work, but not as well as the Schumacher tyre....

[markwilliamson2001]

Ballistic Blue MiniPins are okay, I used them on a Pred on carpet for a club meeting, don't have the edge of the Schumey's (which is nice) but they don't last half as long....
M.

[Nick Goodall]

For the 2wd fronts. Do racers use skinny pins or the fatter 4wd pins?

Elliott.

Hi Elliott! Slim fronts for most i believe, it seems to work ok - but it's always hard to get enough on power steering with 2wd on carpet so just be aware of that if it feels like it's understeering on power. Rob Rasey has run the 4wd fronts and they work ok, but i think the slim ones will give a better balance.

[Gaz_Stanton]

Just entered. :)

Will schumacher minipins be available on the day?

[markwilliamson2001]

Try giving M-K Racing a call/email. Marc will be the shop onsite during the day I believe...

M.

[GRIFF55]

Just entered. :)

Will schumacher minipins be available on the day?

Oh No, not you again:D:D:D:D

[RogerM]

Chris, running anything other than Schumy Mini pins will be false economy as you'll probably need a couple of sets to do the day where the Schumy tires will last all day .... and probably the next event too.

Did you see how worn the Minis were on my RB5 at caldicot, Tq'd with them and the guys running fresher tyres weren't pulling me in on grip ..... it's the yellow that does the traction .... mini spike / mini pin just determines the side-bite and aggressiveness of the car.

[Chris Green]

I'm not sure if my mini-pin fronts will be here in time for my B4.

I've got schumy yellow pin rears, and yellow mini spike fronts at the moment? This worked alright at a recent club meeting?

Should I order some more yellow pin fronts, to make sure I get at least one pair in time?

Thanks.

[Southwell]

Errr, who has the tyres in stock? I forgot to order them lol.

[MK Racing]

MK racing will have a shop there on Sunday, I have sold out of Yellow Mini Pins over the weekend but will have more in on Wednesday.

Marc

[c0sie]

Marc, how much per pair fella?

[wezzer]

I'm not sure if my mini-pin fronts will be here in time for my B4.

I've got schumy yellow pin rears, and yellow mini spike fronts at the moment? This worked alright at a recent club meeting?

Should I order some more yellow pin fronts, to make sure I get at least one pair in time?

Thanks.
yo
i got some you can borrow chris if they aint here in time , got a couple of sets for hereford so you will be sorted what ever !!!!

[Nick Goodall]

On Friday just gone i ran new fronts with a nearly new set of rears and after two practise runs and 4 races the rear tyres are pretty well shot but i'll hold my hand up and say that the car was honestly quicker towards the end of the night, fair enough i was getting used to it but i did my quickest lap times with worn tyres so there's still plenty of grip even as they wear!

[markwilliamson2001]

Just done one meeting on my yellow minipins, they have now bedded in nicely and are ready for MK GP!!

M.

[Chris Green]

yo
i got some you can borrow chris if they aint here in time , got a couple of sets for hereford so you will be sorted what ever !!!!

Cheers Wes, I appreciate that. I've got some on order, so I might be alright. But I'll come and see you if nothing arrives.

Mark, have you completed 4 runs on a set, and they are still gonna be alright for Sunday? is that 2WD or 4WD?

[markwilliamson2001]

6 runs!!

Yes, they will be fine for Sunday (schuey yellow minipins that is)..

Mark

[millzy]

I'll be there

no racing ( its gay ) but will be bitching for Shovel again

[RogerM]

I'll be running my tires that did all day at a Dudley Indoor meeting including about 25 minutes of practice to try and get the evil pig to work ....... will I have a new 4wd though or will it be the piglet again ... more of a concern than the tires!!!!

[tyreman]

I'll be running my tires that did all day at a Dudley Indoor meeting including about 25 minutes of practice to try and get the evil pig to work ....... will I have a new 4wd though or will it be the piglet again ... more of a concern than the tires!!!!


Roger why don't you bin these cars off, and do what you always do, and get a Pred as they seem to be the only car to suit your style of driving,
Rather than coming on the forums and complaining that the car has been a piglet again.
This is not meant as a dig, but an observation from someone thats known and raced with you for years.

[Chris Green]

Could anyone point me in the direction of a setup for a B4 please?

Thanks.

Please? i could do with setting the car up by wednesday if possible.

Thanks.

[Gaz_Stanton]

Oh No, not you again:D:D:D:D

Hell yeah! :D :p

Enjoyed my first run out since Stotfold Nat yesterday so gotta get racing again! :)

Won't be running the Cougar aswell this weekend though, too much hassle. (though i did enjoy beating that yellow RB5 with it!)

[Southwell]

Just start with a standard high grip setup then go from there.

[David Church]

Are there any places left for this meeting???

[glypo]

Anyone got an idea of a rough gear ratio for 4wd for this event. Being a complete newcomer to tenth electric 4wd I have no idea about an overall ratio. I'll be running 13x1. Thanks :)

[AmiSMB]

Glypo let us know what the car is for the final drive ratio and we can have a crack at letting you know where to start for a pinion on that motor.

[ginger fixit]

hi david

entrys dont close till later this week form is at

www.newburyrcclub.co.uk (http://www.newburyrcclub.co.uk)

thanks mate Andy Bell

Are there any places left for this meeting???

[David Church]

Cheers mate, have just entered 4wd!!!!:D

[RogerM]

Roger why don't you bin these cars off, and do what you always do, and get a Pred as they seem to be the only car to suit your style of driving.

Not taken as a dig ...... your probably not far wrong, maybe I drove one for too long and it's sort of reprogramed my brain!!!

New car on the way, not a Pred though as I'm waiting to see what the X11 is actually like when / if it arrives.

[Southwell]

Cheers mate, have just entered 4wd!!!!:D

Good boy! :cool:

[Mash Potato]

Anyone got an idea of a rough gear ratio for 4wd for this event. Being a complete newcomer to tenth electric 4wd I have no idea about an overall ratio. I'll be running 13x1. Thanks :)



Same here for my B44 with an 11x2 in it.

Not a new comer as such, but not raced 1/10th off road for at least 15 years so any knowledge I did have has either been forgotten, or is no longer any use. This race is going to be interesting to say the least.

Also if anyone has some set-up info for a B44/BJ4 that might suit this race, that'd be much appreciated.

[c0sie]

Same here for my B44 with an 11x2 in it.

Not a new comer as such, but not raced 1/10th off road for at least 15 years so any knowledge I did have has either been forgotten, or is no longer any use. This race is going to interesting to say the least.

Also if anyone has some set-up info for a B44/BJ4 that might suit this race, that'd be much appreciated.

Ohh...snap!
Im 'borrowing' a B44, with a 11x2 (I think) so need all the help I can get.
Never raced 10th offroad in anger before... :eh?:

[Chris Green]

Whose B44 are you borrowing Cris?

I'll have a 10x2 with me you could borrow if that's not quick enough for you.

[c0sie]

What 10x2 is it champ? V2??

[Chris Green]

its a BRM 10x2, looks to be recently skimmed.

[JCJC]

10x2, 11x2.........you will have more problems holding em back than worrying if they are fast enough :eh?:

[c0sie]

Holding em back?

Whats that mean?

[glypo]

Glypo let us know what the car is for the final drive ratio and we can have a crack at letting you know where to start for a pinion on that motor.

Cool thanks. We'll I'll be running a Kyosho Lazer ZX-5 with a Orion/Peak V2 13x1. I have a gear chart with final ratio on, so if I can get a rough idea of the overall ratio I'm aiming for I'll buy the pinion that best matches, and 1 above and below just to have a choice.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me out with the gearing question. Just saves me having to spend a small fortune on loads of pinions for the first meeting :)

[RogerM]

He means they will be wild indoors!!!

At Caldicot I was on the brakes the instant the stick hit full throttle with a bonded 6.5 in the RB5 ...... sure the car would have been faster round the track with the 19T Gaz was running or something like a 10.5 sintered .....

Indoors, 13x2 is probably as hot as you want ..... used to use a BRM (awesome motors by the way) 14x3 indoors.

[RogerM]

Casting my mind back I ran 8.24:1 on a 13x2 in my Pred and 8.6:1 I think in the Mako.

Working on that and the ZX5 having a 2.5:1 internal ratio and 78 tooth spur that would put you in 23t region.

Now bear in mind that was with 3300s (back in the day) and BRM motors which as Glyn often reminded us needed "gear tit oopp" so ended up about 3 teeth higher than something like a Reedy of the same wind. Based on that I'd suggest starting on around a 20t or 21t pinion and seeing how the motor is performing.
So long as it's punchy and not too hot after say 2.5 minutes of running I'd continue for the full 5 mins in practice and then look at it's brushes / com .... if they are still the right colour your not far off.
If it's more than warm after 2.5 minutes then I'd stop and change gearing, that is how I used to do it. If it was sluggish and getting warm at 2.5 mins then I'd go down 2 teeth ..... if it was crazy punchy and hot I'd go up 1 tooth ... repeat till you find the best gearing for that motor ...... BEWARE .... IF YOU GET IT TOO FAR OUT YOU'LL COOK THE BRUSHES OR WORSE!!!

[mobile chicane]

Cool thanks. We'll I'll be running a Kyosho Lazer ZX-5 with a Orion/Peak V2 13x1. I have a gear chart with final ratio on, so if I can get a rough idea of the overall ratio I'm aiming for I'll buy the pinion that best matches, and 1 above and below just to have a choice.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me out with the gearing question. Just saves me having to spend a small fortune on loads of pinions for the first meeting :)


cool thats what I'm running, if yer break summat give me a shout as I've got a whole box of spares

I'll pm mark knight of mk racing fame and ask him to bring along some zx5 bits

[ryan]

Giles- i will get you a B4 rear T-plate on sunday what i borrowed of you.;)

[glypo]

Once again, thanks a lot Roger. I'll start off with just one pinion in that case, a 20 or 21, and work from there. I'll speak to Marc and ask him to bring pinions with him, so I can just buy what I need then.

cool thats what I'm running, if yer break summat give me a shout as I've got a whole box of spares

I'll pm mark knight of mk racing fame and ask him to bring along some zx5 bits

Awesome thanks. I've already asked Marc about Lazer stuff, and he's seen my rallycross driving.... so no doubt will take everything breakable, safe in the knowledge he will get good custom from me!

Wow I'm nervous yet also can't wait for this race now :)

[Gaz_Stanton]

At Caldicot I was on the brakes the instant the stick hit full throttle with a bonded 6.5 in the RB5 ...... sure the car would have been faster round the track with the 19T Gaz was running or something like a 10.5 sintered .....


I ran an old Reedy 19T in the Cougar :p & a Novak 5.5 sintered in the 4wd. :D

[GRIFF55]

I used a 5.5 sintered too!(nice). Can't wait for this weekend,:D MK GP woo hoo!!!! Jump looks really good too. Only thing i don't fancy is getting up that morning:(

[RogerM]

I think the sintered bit is the important part .. my bonded had zero brakes!!!

Andy ..... it's only up the road for you ... ok that may be most of the length of the M4 but it's just one road away ... ;)

[RogerM]

Probably me being a little bit slow .. not woken up yet ... but can you please clarify these points please;

1) I assume we need to provide our own table / chair?
2) Will mains power be available and if so will we need to bring our own extension leads? (Health and safety legistation says all trailing leads must be taped down to avoid trip hazards ..... sorry for being boring but a bit off gaffa tape is a small price to pay for mains power!)
3) What will the practice format be? (heat, open, peg board .... public brawl)
4) What are the rules and local availability of food / drink etc.?
6) is there a blast proof cabinet we can charge cells in .... ;)

Really looking forward to it now.

[Chris Green]

He means they will be wild indoors!!!

At Caldicot I was on the brakes the instant the stick hit full throttle with a bonded 6.5 in the RB5 ...... sure the car would have been faster round the track with the 19T Gaz was running or something like a 10.5 sintered .....

Indoors, 13x2 is probably as hot as you want ..... used to use a BRM (awesome motors by the way) 14x3 indoors.

That settles my mind a bit. Thanks roger.

I'm running a 10.5 Nosram Bonded, and was a bit concerned that I would be far too underpowered.

[B&H Racing]

heeeellllpppp !!!

Has anyone got any 4wd Front and Rear yellow Mini Pins they can sell me at the meeting ??? :confused:

Or has any shop that I have not already phoned got them in stock ?

Cheers Brett

[Southwell]

Microtech had them in stock Monday, got mine today.

[B&H Racing]

No front 4wd Yellow mini pins in stock :(

[David Church]

Could someone please confirm that I am entered for 4wd this Sunday?
I filled out the entry form, but my name is not on the list.
Thanks

[Nick Goodall]

No front 4wd Yellow mini pins in stock :(

Have you spoken to Marc at MK? He said he should be getting some today so worth checking - if so he should have them there with him Sunday.

[B&H Racing]

Hi Nick,

Spoke to Mark, but he has got a problem with the 4wd fronts from Schumacher.

I`ve just managed to buy the last set of fronts from Harlequin. :D

[MK Racing]

I have rears & 2wd fronts in stock, Schumacher have run out of 4wd fronts but may get some before the weekend.

Marc

[David Church]

Provided I have gained entry, still waiting confirmation, I will be there and have 4wd front mini pins for Sunday, and I will be happy to sell some on. will also have all mini pins, just bought a job lot of tyres, so should have many to sell.
See me there:D

[ginger fixit]

Probably me being a little bit slow .. not woken up yet ... but can you please clarify these points please;

1) I assume we need to provide our own table / chair?
2) Will mains power be available and if so will we need to bring our own extension leads? (Health and safety legistation says all trailing leads must be taped down to avoid trip hazards ..... sorry for being boring but a bit off gaffa tape is a small price to pay for mains power!)
3) What will the practice format be? (heat, open, peg board .... public brawl)
4) What are the rules and local availability of food / drink etc.?
6) is there a blast proof cabinet we can charge cells in .... ;)

Really looking forward to it now.


roger

mains power first come first served limited out lets

practice in heat formation

no tables/chairs bring your own

food snacks only on site and drinks tea coffee so on

and im importing a blast proof cabinet from finland just for you roger best get there early mate so we can lock you in. ;) LOL

hope that helps i will have full event list up tommorrow night thanks guys

Andy :o

[David Church]

Confirmed entry now!!! Thanks mate, sweeeeeeeeeet:D
Tyres will be avaliable:D

[c0sie]

Help a n00b..

Anyone got a rough starting gearing for a B44 running an 11x2 Checkpoint on this mahoosive track?
IR is 2.5:1, think the spur gear is 84T?

Any help muchious appreciated :)

[wezzer]

that will be a 10x2 you are using champ ;)

[c0sie]

*slaps head* :D

For a 10D then :D

[Lee Martin]

around a 20/21

[c0sie]

Cheers Lee :)

[Mash Potato]

around a 20/21

Any ideas for a 11x2 also in a B44?

[c0sie]

Andy, Any chance you could go onto Google Maps or whatever and post a pic of the venue for travelling nightmares like me ?? :)

[Southwell]

Any ideas for a 11x2 also in a B44?

21/22....

[Mash Potato]

Perfect, I'd guessed at 22 and have fitted that. Much appreciated.

21/22....

[Southwell]

Perfect, I'd guessed at 22 and have fitted that. Much appreciated.

Depends on the track, if it's twisty i'd go lower personally.

[Nick Goodall]

Andy, Any chance you could go onto Google Maps or whatever and post a pic of the venue for travelling nightmares like me ?? :)

It's not too bad to be honest, just do a route plan to RG19 6HW.

[Lee Martin]

i was running the B44 on a 6.5 novak L on 24 pinion.

[c0sie]

Done that Nick, looks like an old airbase??

[Lee Martin]

it is an old airbase! ha

[Nick Goodall]

Done that Nick, looks like an old airbase??

Haha yes it was Greenham American air base until the early 90's when it was turned back into common land and a big business park - The hall for racing (Liberty Ball Room) was one of the old buildings from the Base.

Lee and I are sorting out Track designs tonight so any problems with the track go and see Lee!! :D:D

[Southwell]

The only thing i would keep in mind is that it will be people of all abilities there, it can't be too difficult. (that means make it easier or ill crash) :D

[Lee Martin]

it means...make it easy to be clean if slow. but hard to be fast adn controlled.......

otherwise it will be like ozwastree

[Southwell]

Spot on.

[RogerM]

heeeellllpppp !!!

Has anyone got any 4wd Front and Rear yellow Mini Pins they can sell me at the meeting ??? :confused:

Or has any shop that I have not already phoned got them in stock ?

Cheers Brett


Depends if you have rung DC Racing ......... :) .... Actually best to E-mail him from his site

[Nick Goodall]

it means...make it easy to be clean if slow. but hard to be fast adn controlled.......

otherwise it will be like ozwastree

Ooh yes we will have to have a few parts where time can be gained for the risk takers... it's all about the slippery & jump sections :D

[RogerM]

and im importing a blast proof cabinet from finland just for you roger best get there early mate so we can lock you in. ;) LOL

Andy :o

Andy now that i sbrilliant thinking .... if I leave my cells outside charging I'll be protected from my cells and everybody elses ...... your concern is much appreciated ....

:D:p;):rolleyes:

[GRIFF55]

Charge them the night before Rog, then you'll only risk blowing yourself up:p:p

[c0sie]

Nick/Pidge,
Just bear in mind that our micros might explode if they have to drive the entire 38m straight :D

Seriously though, I cant wait fellas :)

[Nick Goodall]

Nick/Pidge,
Just bear in mind that our micros might explode if they have to drive the entire 38m straight :D

Seriously though, I cant wait fellas :)

No problem at all, already sorted that out by either entering the straight early or turning off it early - we will look after you all though :D

[glypo]

Just bear in mind that our micros might explode if they have to drive the entire 38m straight :D


Good point, 8000KV motor and big pinion put in my RC18T now!

[c0sie]

Andy, sorry to ask all these dumb questions lol

How much is entry fee for someone entering two classes?

[MK Racing]

Just had a phone call from Schumacher, they have managed to get some more 4wd front Minipins out to me today for delivery tomorrow :D

So will have them trackside on Sunday.

Marc

[Gaz_Stanton]

Andy (B): Please can you confirm whether i'm in or not fairly soon? I'm off to a xmas party shortly with another xmas curry & pub crawl starting lunchtime tomorrow so from now till sunday is a potential blur...:rolleyes:


Andy (G): I'll grab some party poppers for Sunday so we can scare the sh1t outta Rog while he's charging!... :D

[c0sie]

pmsl @ Gaz!
Evil but yet could be so funny :D