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HOTSHOT III 15-12-2013 03:52 PM

DEX210 rear toe plate/arm mod
 
Due to today's fantastic weather, and the fact that last week at TORCH I found it hard to drive the DEX210 in the wet I decided to do a little surgery. First I dremelled (I don't know any machinists so I had to mark it out carefully and finish it off with a file/wet and dry) 2mm off the bottom of the rear toe plate to make it sit lower on the chassis and add anti-squat which should give more rear grip under power and more off-power rotation. Check out the before and after pics, you can really see the difference in the hinge pin angle:

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5495/1...97cf24bd_b.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2829/1...911bca7c_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3779/1...7af47a4f_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7403/1...4f05c01b_b.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2807/1...2f876ea0_b.jpg

Also last week I was advised that as the grip comes up on astro you should make the wheelbase longer and longer (you can achieve this by flipping the arms over) but I didn't want the shocks to be on the rear of the car and vulnerable so I duplicated the 3 shock mounting holes on the other side of the arms:

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3741/1...1e70cfa0_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3821/1...f028e6a6_b.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2881/1...63a4c878_b.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5492/1...eceef074_b.jpg

For anyone else who wants to do this the innermost shock mounting hole is 49.5mm from the inboard hinge pin and the other 2 are spaced at 4mm intervals from each other. I used an automatic centre punch to get them as accurate as I could.

I'm not the 1st person to do this (I got the idea from someone selling a 210 on here) but I thought i'd post up the details for the benefit of others who might want to do the same.

It should make the rear of the car more tuneable (it can be returned to stock by putting 2mm spacers under the toe plate) but i'd welcome any comments from those who are more experienced in 2WD than me. Look forward to testing it next Sunday...

Paultje040 16-12-2013 08:56 AM

You have put the wrong url between img tags.

you need to use these : http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5495/1...e5d239de_o.jpg

HOTSHOT III 17-12-2013 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paultje040 (Post 822983)

Thanks, where did you get those URLs?

Paultje040 18-12-2013 04:27 PM

in Flickr go to the photo ->download/all sizes (right side off the screen)

in the new window, rightmouse click the image and open it in a new tab.
in the adressbar you will find the url you need for the image tags

HOTSHOT III 19-12-2013 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paultje040 (Post 823513)
in Flickr go to the photo ->download/all sizes (right side off the screen)

in the new window, rightmouse click the image and open it in a new tab.
in the adressbar you will find the url you need for the image tags

Just done this and it worked perfectly, thanks for your help with this:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Fabs 19-12-2013 10:36 AM

FYI:

http://www.team-durango.com/part-inf...artNo=TD330599

Although designed for the type B chassis will fit the standard aluminium chassis...

Fab

Origineelreclamebord 19-12-2013 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabs (Post 823673)
FYI:

http://www.team-durango.com/part-inf...artNo=TD330599

Although designed for the type B chassis will fit the standard aluminium chassis...

Fab

Why pay so 20GBP if you can do this for free? I know roll centers are sensitive to small changes, but go sit at the television with a file for an evening and you'll have a perfectly usable -2mm hanger - at least that's what I did :lol:

If you have a contact who can machine it off, that's off course even better - at most it'll cost you some money for stamps to post it to have it machined!

And if you need to raise it again, spacers work fine and are not ergonomically awkward as long as you run mid-motor.

mattr 19-12-2013 02:47 PM

Think I've got a couple of spare RR hangers, might give this a go.

Gunthar Guntharsėn 19-12-2013 07:30 PM

What about the RF hanger? The 3 degree antisquat RF hanger is 2mm taller than the 0 degree. So with this mod would you have 3 degrees antisquat minimum (using the 0 degree RF hanger). I presume most people usually run less (I normally about 2 degrees).

Origineelreclamebord 19-12-2013 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunthar Guntharsėn (Post 823775)
What about the RF hanger? The 3 degree antisquat RF hanger is 2mm taller than the 0 degree. So with this mod would you have 3 degrees antisquat minimum (using the 0 degree RF hanger). I presume most people usually run less (I normally about 2 degrees).

http://www.exotekracing.com/dex210-r...ith-shims-lrc/

There you go. You could also machine a plastic or alu one lower, but many alu ones don't have a lot of flesh around the outside mounts/screw holes, and the plastic one is not ideal to take material off of.

Also worth noting, the RDRP LRC kit only lowers the rear, the RF hanger is the same as the 0 degrees anti-squat one!

HOTSHOT III 19-12-2013 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunthar Guntharsėn (Post 823775)
What about the RF hanger? The 3 degree antisquat RF hanger is 2mm taller than the 0 degree. So with this mod would you have 3 degrees antisquat minimum (using the 0 degree RF hanger). I presume most people usually run less (I normally about 2 degrees).

TBH I already had 3 degrees antisquat before doing the mod (running the kit standard 3/3 RF hanger) but I wanted to try more than 3 degrees to see if the car will be more driveable under power when it's slippery.

It's probably running about 5 or 6 degrees now in total, i'm not really sure how it could be accurately measured.


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